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"I had my testosterone checked a little while back, not because of sexual reasons, but because of weight gain, tiredness, less clear thinking etc. and had read up about guy’s in their 50’s + taking testosterone. I did it all via a consultant and gp, scheduling regular check ups, as it can be risky if self administered. It turned out I was at the lower end of the levels and was prescribed a gel that I rub on every morning. I’ve been on it about 4 weeks and the difference is life changing! Seriously, better sleep, better focus, more energy, clearer thinking, etc etc. (And yes much better hard-ons too) It also reduces heart attacks by 25% and strokes by 35%. The prescription is about £40 a month, so it’s not free. Your testosterone drops about 2% a year after 30, it’s worth getting it checked if you are flagging. " Great post. I'm sure many men on here would benefit from getting a test done. ![]() | |||
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"I had my testosterone checked a little while back, not because of sexual reasons, but because of weight gain, tiredness, less clear thinking etc. and had read up about guy’s in their 50’s + taking testosterone. I did it all via a consultant and gp, scheduling regular check ups, as it can be risky if self administered. It turned out I was at the lower end of the levels and was prescribed a gel that I rub on every morning. I’ve been on it about 4 weeks and the difference is life changing! Seriously, better sleep, better focus, more energy, clearer thinking, etc etc. (And yes much better hard-ons too) It also reduces heart attacks by 25% and strokes by 35%. The prescription is about £40 a month, so it’s not free. Your testosterone drops about 2% a year after 30, it’s worth getting it checked if you are flagging. Great post. I'm sure many men on here would benefit from getting a test done. ![]() It wasn’t on my radar until recently, I don’t think many guys are aware of it and it’s so easy to use, you literally rub gel on your shoulders every morning. | |||
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"Be careful folks ! You are at a greater risk of prostate Cancer and within the age group. " You are if you try to get your levels too high and don’t get regular checkups I’m under a consultant who specialises in this area and have had all my checks and will continue to do so. | |||
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"I think my T was a bit low when I tested , but honestly I don't suffer from brain fog, weight gain etc. I heard the gels can shrink the balls mine would disappear!" The gel is applied to the shoulders so balls shrinking is out of the question. The gel 'Testogel' is a clear liquid gel that you spread on your shoulders it evaporates quickly but the skin absorbs it. It is widely used and completely safe. | |||
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"Excellent a good exchange of information precisely what a forum is for thankyou to all participants and I was going to say raising the Subject but ther was no pun intended " Thank you Reduction in testosterone normally starts mid 40's There is plenty information on females menopause but never any information on male low testosterone If any questions at all feel free to ask. | |||
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"Be careful folks ! You are at a greater risk of prostate Cancer and within the age group. " This has been disproven via various clinical studies. However if your provider is a doctor lead clinic they will likely require yearly dre checks when your 40+ Something most men wont have | |||
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"Thanks for this guys I've just ordered a test online" Blood must be taken early Morning and must be before 10am latest, for true testosterone results | |||
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"Thanks for this guys I've just ordered a test online" If testing 3 keys things. 1 it should be a veinous sample. Finger prick tests are notoriusly unreliable 2. It should be before taken fasted 3. It should be taken as close to 8:30 as possible as natral test levels are highest in the morning | |||
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"How do you get it" Medichecks is one option or message me and i will tell you my provider who can sort bloods and may give you their oppion on them | |||
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"I had my testosterone checked a little while back, not because of sexual reasons, but because of weight gain, tiredness, less clear thinking etc. and had read up about guy’s in their 50’s + taking testosterone. I did it all via a consultant and gp, scheduling regular check ups, as it can be risky if self administered. It turned out I was at the lower end of the levels and was prescribed a gel that I rub on every morning. I’ve been on it about 4 weeks and the difference is life changing! Seriously, better sleep, better focus, more energy, clearer thinking, etc etc. (And yes much better hard-ons too) It also reduces heart attacks by 25% and strokes by 35%. The prescription is about £40 a month, so it’s not free. Your testosterone drops about 2% a year after 30, it’s worth getting it checked if you are flagging. " Do you know what your actual testosterone level was? | |||
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"If you’re feeling sluggish low energy brain fog low sex drive body shape change Lesser erections (softer, less frequent) Then get your testosterone checked, it’s something vital in your body that tends to reduce with age. There’s a normal range something like 10-30 nmol/L, in men of all ages mine was at 9! I was put on TRT and the difference was almost immediate, and still carries on being hugely beneficial. There’s risks after 50 and you need to be monitored regularly, with blood tests and consultation. The ideal level range over 50 in age is low to high teens, not in the 20’s+. If you read the health benefits of normal testosterone, there are many, but let’s say I can everything better and harder than before. . . I was tested and shown to be 9nmol/L, my doctor said this was within normal range, I then fractured my ankle and was seen by a specialist, I mentioned my low testosterone to him and he suspected I also had Low Bone Density. He carried out further tests and confirmed I was Low on Testosterone and Low Bone Density was the cause of my ankle fracture. His report was sent to my GP and I am now on TRT (Testosterone Replacement for life via NHS. NOTE; This is a nhs treatment; I have been on Testosterone Replacement for over 4 years now, first two years on Testogel and once dosage was fixed out things worked well, I was on two sachets a day which are rubbed into your shoulders. I changed over to testosterone undecanoate (Nebido®) 1000mg /4ML injection every 8 weeks and this works just as well. I average 25nmol/L although peak is slightly higher and Trough slightly lower. My daily morning erections have returned and can achieve an erection as and when required, often when not required too. . So why was I placed on TRT, Testosterone Replacement I suffered Erectile Dysfunction for 3 years, I was unable to achieve or maintain erections and I also have an effeminate shaped body my other symptoms included; • fatigue • lethargy • depression • anxiety • irritability • low libido • erectile dysfunction • reduced exercise tolerance and strength • excessive sweating and night sweats • poor concentration or memory • needing to shave less often (my legs, arms and face were smooth only needed to shave once a week or less. My doctor and specialist eventually discovered this was due to Low Testosterone and I am now on Testosterone replacement for life. My overall well being has increased rapidly, my fitness, strength and im even getting noticeable muscles My Erections have also returned big time, powerful strong rock solid erections every morning and as and when performance is required, often unexpected moments too such as standing in a Tesco check out queue Feel free to ask me anything regarding TRT and I will try and give a direct answer of my experience" Thanks for this. Very interesting read. It’s something that has been on my radar for a while. | |||
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"Your balls do shrink as your body stops producing its own testosterone due to the gel" I can't have my balls shrinking, but I do think my testosterone is not as it should be. I have not got a good sleep pattern, I have trouble losing weight etc. | |||
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"My younger bro is going through the same things in his 20’s. Some gland issue. I have many body builder friends who take them for “sport” and muscle strengthening and body building. Probably illegally, they sell for £5 a shot. But need to be self regulated and see a dodgy doctor to make sure they’re safe. A lot of gym guys who are into bodybuilding do it. So very little stigma. Some good points but no one has mentioned the rage and anger you suffer. The extra testosterone or re-introduction of it causes serious mood changes mostly aggression and rage. In my brother and friends cases. The term meat head comes to mind. Also what about premature hair loss, balls do shrink due to an external source or Test. And gyno? Don’t some men develop man boobs Just my thoughts. I’m no expert " There are vast differenced in trt and juicing for body building. The body builders are going to superphysiological and usually dangerous high levels of testosterone. People on TRT are taking their levels to within the normal testosterone range. If normal ranges caused roid rage every male will have it just buy being healthy. Hairloss is caused by testosterone being convertrd to DHT. This is mostly based on genetics. If your susecpable to hairloss then getting no normal levels will cause hairloss, this is hairloss that you would have anyhow. Balls do shrink as they stop producing any natural testosterone, this effect can be reduced by using HCG which mimics lutinizing hormone and continues some sperm and testosterone production. That being said tho. Id rather have small balls thrn wanting to kill myself daily | |||
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"If you’re feeling sluggish low energy brain fog low sex drive body shape change Lesser erections (softer, less frequent) Then get your testosterone checked, it’s something vital in your body that tends to reduce with age. There’s a normal range something like 10-30 nmol/L, in men of all ages mine was at 9! I was put on TRT and the difference was almost immediate, and still carries on being hugely beneficial. There’s risks after 50 and you need to be monitored regularly, with blood tests and consultation. The ideal level range over 50 in age is low to high teens, not in the 20’s+. If you read the health benefits of normal testosterone, there are many, but let’s say I can everything better and harder than before. . . I was tested and shown to be 9nmol/L, my doctor said this was within normal range, I then fractured my ankle and was seen by a specialist, I mentioned my low testosterone to him and he suspected I also had Low Bone Density. He carried out further tests and confirmed I was Low on Testosterone and Low Bone Density was the cause of my ankle fracture. His report was sent to my GP and I am now on TRT (Testosterone Replacement for life via NHS. NOTE; This is a nhs treatment; I have been on Testosterone Replacement for over 4 years now, first two years on Testogel and once dosage was fixed out things worked well, I was on two sachets a day which are rubbed into your shoulders. I changed over to testosterone undecanoate (Nebido®) 1000mg /4ML injection every 8 weeks and this works just as well. I average 25nmol/L although peak is slightly higher and Trough slightly lower. My daily morning erections have returned and can achieve an erection as and when required, often when not required too. . So why was I placed on TRT, Testosterone Replacement I suffered Erectile Dysfunction for 3 years, I was unable to achieve or maintain erections and I also have an effeminate shaped body my other symptoms included; • fatigue • lethargy • depression • anxiety • irritability • low libido • erectile dysfunction • reduced exercise tolerance and strength • excessive sweating and night sweats • poor concentration or memory • needing to shave less often (my legs, arms and face were smooth only needed to shave once a week or less. My doctor and specialist eventually discovered this was due to Low Testosterone and I am now on Testosterone replacement for life. My overall well being has increased rapidly, my fitness, strength and im even getting noticeable muscles My Erections have also returned big time, powerful strong rock solid erections every morning and as and when performance is required, often unexpected moments too such as standing in a Tesco check out queue Feel free to ask me anything regarding TRT and I will try and give a direct answer of my experience" Mine was 5 nmol/L it’s kept at 15-20 now, I had the injection last year before I went to the UAE, hurt like hell for a week after in my thigh. I’m happy with the gel for now. | |||
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"I had my testosterone checked a little while back, not because of sexual reasons, but because of weight gain, tiredness, less clear thinking etc. and had read up about guy’s in their 50’s + taking testosterone. I did it all via a consultant and gp, scheduling regular check ups, as it can be risky if self administered. It turned out I was at the lower end of the levels and was prescribed a gel that I rub on every morning. I’ve been on it about 4 weeks and the difference is life changing! Seriously, better sleep, better focus, more energy, clearer thinking, etc etc. (And yes much better hard-ons too) It also reduces heart attacks by 25% and strokes by 35%. The prescription is about £40 a month, so it’s not free. Your testosterone drops about 2% a year after 30, it’s worth getting it checked if you are flagging. Do you know what your actual testosterone level was?" 5 nmol/L, very low, normal range for a guy my age is 15-20+ | |||
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"Your balls do shrink as your body stops producing its own testosterone due to the gel" Does your cock shrink too? Asking for a friend. | |||
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"Be careful folks ! You are at a greater risk of prostate Cancer and within the age group. " That's scary ! | |||
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"Be careful folks ! You are at a greater risk of prostate Cancer and within the age group. That's scary !" Actually you have Less Chance of Prostate Cancer as your psa is tested and monitored at least every 6 months - learn the facts before posting. TRT returns your testosterone levels to what they should be for a man of your age. It does not increase testosterone above what it should be. . Of more concern is Low testosterone which in turn also gives you Low Free Testosterone Free testosterone provides bone growth. If it is low then you are developing osteoporosis and this goes unchecked for decades until it is too late. | |||
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"Can you increase your T levels naturally?" If you could, there would be no reason for testosterone replacement In saying that, the supplement Zinc helps, but will not increase to a healthy level if for medical reasons you are low | |||
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"Can someone recommend a decent private TRT doctor/specialist. I'm currently with the Ledger Clinic, but looking for other options. Thanks in advance. " YES; and you are in the perfect location for him, he is one of the best in the UK and teaches, lectures other specialists Mail me and I will provide full details for you | |||
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"Your balls do shrink as your body stops producing its own testosterone due to the gel Does your cock shrink too? Asking for a friend." This really scares me off. I will not try it because there are many other side effects from the Google search not mentioned here. | |||
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"Your balls do shrink as your body stops producing its own testosterone due to the gel Does your cock shrink too? Asking for a friend. This really scares me off. I will not try it because there are many other side effects from the Google search not mentioned here. " I have been on TRT for 6 years, only side effect is slightly smaller testicles simply due to them no longer needing to produce testosterone. Ignore the idiot who asked if your cock shrinks as it is utterly nonsense. Perhaps his brain is shrinking without using. What side effects do you really think there are? | |||
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"Can someone recommend a decent private TRT doctor/specialist. I'm currently with the Ledger Clinic, but looking for other options. Thanks in advance. " If you look at a Spire medical centre and find an endocrinologist who specialises in hormones, then you should be on to the right path. | |||
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"Your balls do shrink as your body stops producing its own testosterone due to the gel Does your cock shrink too? Asking for a friend. This really scares me off. I will not try it because there are many other side effects from the Google search not mentioned here. " Dr Google is not the right place to be getting this information, think about it, low T levels can be harmful and unpleasant in a number of ways, a healthy T level is exactly that, healthy. The key is to keep getting your blood checked, every month to start with, every 3 months, then every 6 months, to make sure you’re at the right level and you’re liver, kidneys, blood count, etc etc are all good. It’s more closely monitored on all your vital signs than not being on TRT Balls shrinking? No idea, not noticed Cock shrinking? Definitely not Hard on and ejaculation much improved. Don’t take my word or Google’s word for it, speak to an endocrinologist who knows about these things. | |||
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"Your balls do shrink as your body stops producing its own testosterone due to the gel Does your cock shrink too? Asking for a friend." Dunno have a look at mine and see ifnyou think its shrunk lol. If anything it gets bigger due to stronger errections. | |||
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"Can someone recommend a decent private TRT doctor/specialist. I'm currently with the Ledger Clinic, but looking for other options. Thanks in advance. " The ledger clinic is good but the best in the uk is the mens health clinic. These are ad far as i kniw the only 2 doctor led clinics so the only ones worth considering | |||
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"Whatr er you do tho dont bither speaking to "the uks leading endrocronologist in hypogonadism based in newcastle" He laughed my brother out if the office when his testosterone level was 6nmol." I doubt that very much | |||
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"I had my testosterone checked a little while back, not because of sexual reasons, but because of weight gain, tiredness, less clear thinking etc. and had read up about guy’s in their 50’s + taking testosterone. I did it all via a consultant and gp, scheduling regular check ups, as it can be risky if self administered. It turned out I was at the lower end of the levels and was prescribed a gel that I rub on every morning. I’ve been on it about 4 weeks and the difference is life changing! Seriously, better sleep, better focus, more energy, clearer thinking, etc etc. (And yes much better hard-ons too) It also reduces heart attacks by 25% and strokes by 35%. The prescription is about £40 a month, so it’s not free. Your testosterone drops about 2% a year after 30, it’s worth getting it checked if you are flagging. " FOC here in ,Wales | |||
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"I too am on Testogel. The op is quite right, a huge amount of guys over a certain age suffer testosterone loss and don't realise it, the gel helps but good diet and plenty of water also helps. I am also pescribed Sildenifil , so to that end I am sorted. Just regular health checks, and my flu jab and all is well. I even get really good hard 'morning wood' again." This is a very interesting and useful thread. My question is, does the Sildenfil accompany the testosterone gel? Do they work together? Or is the gel sufficient on its own? | |||
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"Is there anywhere to get some of the gel without going to a doctor?" This is not a stop/start treatment. This is for people who have Low Testosterone and Erectile Dysfunction This is a life long treatment to give you a healthier lifestyle as well as bringing back your erections Blood's have to be tested by your GP | |||
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"I had my testosterone checked a little while back, not because of sexual reasons, but because of weight gain, tiredness, less clear thinking etc. and had read up about guy’s in their 50’s + taking testosterone. I did it all via a consultant and gp, scheduling regular check ups, as it can be risky if self administered. It turned out I was at the lower end of the levels and was prescribed a gel that I rub on every morning. I’ve been on it about 4 weeks and the difference is life changing! Seriously, better sleep, better focus, more energy, clearer thinking, etc etc. (And yes much better hard-ons too) It also reduces heart attacks by 25% and strokes by 35%. The prescription is about £40 a month, so it’s not free. Your testosterone drops about 2% a year after 30, it’s worth getting it checked if you are flagging. " This is such a helpful post, so thank you OP. I’ll get mine checked out now as well. | |||
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"Thanks for all the replies to this topic, very useful. ![]() I have been on TRT for 7 years, I have shoulder length fairy thick hair on my head and relatively smooth over my body. The advantage of TRT is that you keep a healthy level of testosterone whilst others drop off as they age. | |||
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"Be careful folks ! You are at a greater risk of prostate Cancer and within the age group. " I think there's some doubt about that these days. The original research compared men who had been chemically castrated because they already had Ca Prostate and normal levels. There's evidence that the receptors involved are saturated at a fairly low concentration, and increasing it has no effect. Got my first appointment next week. | |||
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"I think my T was a bit low when I tested , but honestly I don't suffer from brain fog, weight gain etc. I heard the gels can shrink the balls mine would disappear!" You can be prescribed HCG at the same time. Protects fertility and testicle size. | |||
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"I had my testosterone checked a little while back, not because of sexual reasons, but because of weight gain, tiredness, less clear thinking etc. and had read up about guy’s in their 50’s + taking testosterone. I did it all via a consultant and gp, scheduling regular check ups, as it can be risky if self administered. It turned out I was at the lower end of the levels and was prescribed a gel that I rub on every morning. I’ve been on it about 4 weeks and the difference is life changing! Seriously, better sleep, better focus, more energy, clearer thinking, etc etc. (And yes much better hard-ons too) It also reduces heart attacks by 25% and strokes by 35%. The prescription is about £40 a month, so it’s not free. Your testosterone drops about 2% a year after 30, it’s worth getting it checked if you are flagging. " Drops 2% a year after 30, not good for me then as I am 66 so mine has dropped about 72% | |||
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" Take Zinc and Magnesium along wuth Ashwanghda, it's amazing , my erections are super hard now " | |||
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