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"If you’re feeling sluggish low energy brain fog low sex drive body shape change Lesser erections (softer, less frequent) Then get your testosterone checked, it’s something vital in your body that tends to reduce with age. There’s a normal range something like 10-30 nmol/L, in men of all ages mine was at 6! I was put on TRT and the difference was almost immediate, and still carries on being hugely beneficial. There’s risks after 50 and you need to be monitored regularly, with blood tests and consultation. The ideal level range over 50 in age is low to high teens, not in the 20’s+. If you read the health benefits of normal testosterone, there are many, but let’s say I can everything better and harder than before. It seems to be a bit of a well kept secret, but look at Jeff Bezos, or Joe Rogan etc. all on TRT. " Joe Rogan the transphobic prick that condemns trans men as confused lesbians and takes Testosterone himself what a hypocrite he is | |||
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"I keep asking for a test and they always make excuses not to do it. " go private if your GP refuses I guess they see it as not necessary, | |||
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"My lady blood panel Testosterone 0.8 nmol/L Estradiol 521 pmol/L Yeah it’s important to have a dominant sex hormone to function properly. I’ve flipped my hormone profile with medicine 3 monthly blood panel tests to make sure I’m healthy, I’m a big advocate for HRT but it needs to be monitored correctly, plus testosterone is a controlled drug unlike E2 " lady lol last x that mistake made my smile :d | |||
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"I keep asking for a test and they always make excuses not to do it. go private if your GP refuses I guess they see it as not necessary, " Everytime I get blood test form I want to tick that box. Idk if they would know if I did. I will keep on till they do. | |||
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"Is this something you do privately or GP?" I got mine done privately, it was about £800 for the initial consultations (2 of) and blood tests (2 of) then it’s about £200 every 4 months for a check up and bloods again. I didn’t even bother trying the GP. My insurance covered the first part, I have to pay for the every 4 months bit. The prescriptions is just a regular nhs price every month. | |||
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"If you’re feeling sluggish low energy brain fog low sex drive body shape change Lesser erections (softer, less frequent) Then get your testosterone checked, it’s something vital in your body that tends to reduce with age. There’s a normal range something like 10-30 nmol/L, in men of all ages mine was at 6! I was put on TRT and the difference was almost immediate, and still carries on being hugely beneficial. There’s risks after 50 and you need to be monitored regularly, with blood tests and consultation. The ideal level range over 50 in age is low to high teens, not in the 20’s+. If you read the health benefits of normal testosterone, there are many, but let’s say I can everything better and harder than before. It seems to be a bit of a well kept secret, but look at Jeff Bezos, or Joe Rogan etc. all on TRT. Joe Rogan the transphobic prick that condemns trans men as confused lesbians and takes Testosterone himself what a hypocrite he is " A: Rogan isn't transphobic B: he is quite right actually | |||
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"Is this something you do privately or GP? I got mine done privately, it was about £800 for the initial consultations (2 of) and blood tests (2 of) then it’s about £200 every 4 months for a check up and bloods again. I didn’t even bother trying the GP. My insurance covered the first part, I have to pay for the every 4 months bit. The prescriptions is just a regular nhs price every month. " Sounds interesting and I'm sure for many men it'd be worth getting tested but probably far too expensive to pursue privately. | |||
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"If you’re feeling sluggish low energy brain fog low sex drive body shape change Lesser erections (softer, less frequent) Then get your testosterone checked, it’s something vital in your body that tends to reduce with age. There’s a normal range something like 10-30 nmol/L, in men of all ages mine was at 6! I was put on TRT and the difference was almost immediate, and still carries on being hugely beneficial. There’s risks after 50 and you need to be monitored regularly, with blood tests and consultation. The ideal level range over 50 in age is low to high teens, not in the 20’s+. If you read the health benefits of normal testosterone, there are many, but let’s say I can everything better and harder than before. It seems to be a bit of a well kept secret, but look at Jeff Bezos, or Joe Rogan etc. all on TRT. Joe Rogan the transphobic prick that condemns trans men as confused lesbians and takes Testosterone himself what a hypocrite he is A: Rogan isn't transphobic B: he is quite right actually" A yeah he is B no his not his a pillock | |||
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"I had my testosterone level checked in November and January by my GP (for free). The 'acceptable' range is 9.0-29.0. In November I recorded 10.0 and in January it had crashed to 1.6 (with retests carried out). The lab said this was abnormally low so I'm being referred to endocrinology for more tests. Oddly, my sex drive is ok at the moment." what units are you talking about 29.0 what ? | |||
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"I had my testosterone level checked in November and January by my GP (for free). The 'acceptable' range is 9.0-29.0. In November I recorded 10.0 and in January it had crashed to 1.6 (with retests carried out). The lab said this was abnormally low so I'm being referred to endocrinology for more tests. Oddly, my sex drive is ok at the moment. what units are you talking about 29.0 what ? " nmol/l | |||
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"Is this something you do privately or GP? I got mine done privately, it was about £800 for the initial consultations (2 of) and blood tests (2 of) then it’s about £200 every 4 months for a check up and bloods again. I didn’t even bother trying the GP. My insurance covered the first part, I have to pay for the every 4 months bit. The prescriptions is just a regular nhs price every month. Sounds interesting and I'm sure for many men it'd be worth getting tested but probably far too expensive to pursue privately." Go to Superdrug website, test kit is £50 plus shipping | |||
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"I keep asking for a test and they always make excuses not to do it. " I was feeling down and lethargic. Told them I wanted to test my testosterone and other bloods to see if I was lacking something before going onto anti depressents. My doctor was more than happy to. Suggest you insist if they say no. Its not unreasonable to ask. | |||
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"I had my testosterone level checked in November and January by my GP (for free). The 'acceptable' range is 9.0-29.0. In November I recorded 10.0 and in January it had crashed to 1.6 (with retests carried out). The lab said this was abnormally low so I'm being referred to endocrinology for more tests. Oddly, my sex drive is ok at the moment. what units are you talking about 29.0 what ? nmol/l" | |||
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"I think high levels of testosterone contribute to many violent and sexual attacks on the venerable. " absolutely, Androcur the T blocker I take is prescribed for male sexual aggression amongst other things, completely crushes Testosterone in the body. | |||
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"If you’re feeling sluggish low energy brain fog low sex drive body shape change Lesser erections (softer, less frequent) Then get your testosterone checked, it’s something vital in your body that tends to reduce with age. There’s a normal range something like 10-30 nmol/L, in men of all ages mine was at 6! I was put on TRT and the difference was almost immediate, and still carries on being hugely beneficial. There’s risks after 50 and you need to be monitored regularly, with blood tests and consultation. The ideal level range over 50 in age is low to high teens, not in the 20’s+. If you read the health benefits of normal testosterone, there are many, but let’s say I can everything better and harder than before. It seems to be a bit of a well kept secret, but look at Jeff Bezos, or Joe Rogan etc. all on TRT. " I was tested and shown to be 9nmol/L, my doctor said this was within normal range, I then fractured my ankle and was seen by a specialist, I mentioned my low testosterone to him and he suspected I also had Low Bone Density. He carried out further tests and confirmed I was Low on Testosterone and Low Bone Density was the cause of my ankle fracture. His report was sent to my GP and I am now on TRT (Testosterone Replacement for life via NHS. I have been on Testosterone Replacement for over 4 years now, first two years on Testogel and once dosage was fixed out things worked well, I was on two sachets a day which are rubbed into your shoulders. I changed over to testosterone undecanoate (Nebido®) 1000mg /4ML injection every 8 weeks and this works just as well. I average 25nmol/L although peak is slightly higher and Trough slightly lower. My daily morning erections have returned and can achieve an erection as and when required, often when not required too. . So why was I placed on TRT, Testosterone Replacement I suffered Erectile Dysfunction for 3 years, I was unable to achieve or maintain erections and I also have an effeminate shaped body my other symptoms included; • fatigue • lethargy • depression • anxiety • irritability • low libido • erectile dysfunction • reduced exercise tolerance and strength • excessive sweating and night sweats • poor concentration or memory • needing to shave less often (my legs, arms and face were smooth only needed to shave once a week or less. My doctor and specialist eventually discovered this was due to Low Testosterone and I am now on Testosterone replacement for life. My overall well being has increased rapidly, my fitness, strength and im even getting noticeable muscles My Erections have also returned big time, powerful strong rock solid erections every morning and as and when my wife requires which is regular as she is 11 years younger than me and highly sexed is an understatement. Feel free to ask me anything regarding TRT and I will try and give a direct answer of my experience. | |||
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"The test through my GP came back normal I was disappointed as I thought it would be the answer to a few issues I have. " depends what you consider Normal 9nmol/L is normal for a 75 year old man, yet they class 9mnol/L - 28 nmol/L as normal sometimes it is better to be referred private for initial testing as GP doctors have no idea | |||
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"I'd rather take testosterone blockers " My Post was not regarding "what I would rather take" it was specifically stating what I needed to take to live a normal healthy life we can all fantasize saying we would like this, we would like that | |||
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"Is this something you do privately or GP?" GP. Just ask. Say you fell your testosterone is low because......what ever you want to say. If not, ask to be referred to ED clinic. They will write to your Doc recommending testosterone. I was on Testogel. Rubbed onto buttocks, inner thighs and tummy alternate days. Not on now as I'm ok and due to my age. Using avanafil when needed. But if guy is sexy enough, I don't need it | |||
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"Is this something you do privately or GP? I got mine done privately, it was about £800 for the initial consultations (2 of) and blood tests (2 of) then it’s about £200 every 4 months for a check up and bloods again. OMG. Wow. Why don't you get GP to do it? Tell them you need it I didn’t even bother trying the GP. My insurance covered the first part, I have to pay for the every 4 months bit. The prescriptions is just a regular nhs price every month. " | |||
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"After reading this post I've asked my GP for a blood test to test my Testosterone levels. I'm really hoping that they're going to be low as looking at several of the symptoms of having low testosterone I'm hoping that this could possibly cure several heath issues that I've had for several years now. " Be prepaired to be fobbed off by your GP, satisfactory guideline levels are 9nmol/L - 28 nmol/L 9nmol/L is for a person 75 - 80 years old yet if you are in your late 40's, early 50's they will say this is acceptable which is untrue. in your 50's your levels should be mid to high teens. go and checkout excelmaledotcom replace the dot with a . this forum used to be a bible for people with Low testosterone, it is not so good now, but will help you | |||
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"Thanks for the reply, I'm hoping that if the results are in a lower level than they should be for my age that they will put me on a medication to increase levels so hopefully then I can get off my antidepressants that I have been on for far too many years." Dave; TRT does not "Increase your natural levels" it shuts down what your body produces and replaces with good testosterone. . . after reading some posts, here is something that may help some.... . . I have read many messages on here - go private, go private. Fact is, TRT testosterone replacement is fully available on the NHS and if you are in need of this, it is available. . You will find the majority of GP doctors have little or no knowledge of TRT, why would they as it is not a daily occurrence. When you go to your doctor ask for a private appointment with a specialist who deals with this daily, you will be seen within a week or two, the full report will be sent back to your doctor and...... if it is proven you do need this medication you will be prescribed it by your doctor. 1; you will normally start on Testogel, 1 x 50 mg sachet which you rub into your shoulders. 2; on the morning before you start this, you should have your bloods taken "before 10am" 3; You will rub this into your shoulders each morning for 3 months, then further bloods taken 4; you will probably show that you are still low and your dosage will be increased to 1.5 sachets per day, My bloods showed I needed 2 sachets per day. 5; once your dosage is correct, you will continue on 3 monthly blood checks, then reduced to 6 monthly, and eventually yearly blood tests. 6; By now you will be living a normal life in good health and this will be a way of life for you. 7; You may decide to go down the road of 12 weekly injections, saves the mess of rubbing in gel each morning. and if so, the above process starts again, 12 week injections, blood tests, reduced to 1o week interval, blood test until exact dosage is worked out for you. I am on one injection every 8 weeks. PRIVATE; Testogel comes in 40 sachet packs, the cost used to be £55 per pack If on 2 sachets per day this will cost you around £100 per month every month for the rest of your life. Testogel also comes in a bottle pump activator, simillar cost. on top of this you will need private blood tests as I described above until correct dosage is found for you and then 6 monthly and yearly checks. Do you really want to go down this route for the rest of your life? You do not try TRT, you do not go on it for a year then decide its not for me, This is a medication for life, of which you sit down with your doctor and discuss along with family members as the chance of having children when on this medication is basically zero. Your sperm count will drop off and your testicles may shrink slightly due to them shutting down testosterone production. TRT does not add testosterone to what your body already produces, Your body and The hypothalamus sends a signal to the pituitary gland to say.... "wait a minute my body already has testosterone" and in turn they will shut down testosterone production from your testicles, Your LH & FSH will gradually drop to zero shutting down natural testosterone production from your testicles. . This is not a simple decision, you need to have real medical problems to be placed on TRT and you need to do your own research. | |||
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"After reading this post I've asked my GP for a blood test to test my Testosterone levels. I'm really hoping that they're going to be low as looking at several of the symptoms of having low testosterone I'm hoping that this could possibly cure several heath issues that I've had for several years now. Be prepaired to be fobbed off by your GP, satisfactory guideline levels are 9nmol/L - 28 nmol/L 9nmol/L is for a person 75 - 80 years old yet if you are in your late 40's, early 50's they will say this is acceptable which is untrue. in your 50's your levels should be mid to high teens. go and checkout excelmaledotcom replace the dot with a . this forum used to be a bible for people with Low testosterone, it is not so good now, but will help you" I got my blood test results today 13.7 nmol/L which to no surprise they have said is within an acceptable range. I'm going to book an appointment with my GP to discuss the results and ask what else could be causing my symptoms, if I don't get any progress I will look into having a private consultation. | |||
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"If you’re feeling sluggish low energy brain fog low sex drive body shape change Lesser erections (softer, less frequent) Then get your testosterone checked, it’s something vital in your body that tends to reduce with age. There’s a normal range something like 10-30 nmol/L, in men of all ages mine was at 6! I was put on TRT and the difference was almost immediate, and still carries on being hugely beneficial. There’s risks after 50 and you need to be monitored regularly, with blood tests and consultation. The ideal level range over 50 in age is low to high teens, not in the 20’s+. If you read the health benefits of normal testosterone, there are many, but let’s say I can everything better and harder than before. It seems to be a bit of a well kept secret, but look at Jeff Bezos, or Joe Rogan etc. all on TRT. Joe Rogan the transphobic prick that condemns trans men as confused lesbians and takes Testosterone himself what a hypocrite he is A: Rogan isn't transphobic B: he is quite right actually A yeah he is B no his not his a pillock " i love joe rogan too | |||
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"After reading this post I've asked my GP for a blood test to test my Testosterone levels. I'm really hoping that they're going to be low as looking at several of the symptoms of having low testosterone I'm hoping that this could possibly cure several heath issues that I've had for several years now. Be prepaired to be fobbed off by your GP, satisfactory guideline levels are 9nmol/L - 28 nmol/L 9nmol/L is for a person 75 - 80 years old yet if you are in your late 40's, early 50's they will say this is acceptable which is untrue. in your 50's your levels should be mid to high teens. go and checkout excelmaledotcom replace the dot with a . this forum used to be a bible for people with Low testosterone, it is not so good now, but will help you I got my blood test results today 13.7 nmol/L which to no surprise they have said is within an acceptable range. I'm going to book an appointment with my GP to discuss the results and ask what else could be causing my symptoms, if I don't get any progress I will look into having a private consultation. " I take it your blood was taken before 10am in morning, when testing for testosterone in blood it must be taken as early as possible in morning, ideally as soon as surgery opens 8am / 8.30am, any blood taken after 10am is a total waste of time and will give false readings. 13nmol/L is low but doctors wont put you on TRT as it is acceptable, high teens to low 20's is normal | |||
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"After reading this post I've asked my GP for a blood test to test my Testosterone levels. I'm really hoping that they're going to be low as looking at several of the symptoms of having low testosterone I'm hoping that this could possibly cure several heath issues that I've had for several years now. Be prepaired to be fobbed off by your GP, satisfactory guideline levels are 9nmol/L - 28 nmol/L 9nmol/L is for a person 75 - 80 years old yet if you are in your late 40's, early 50's they will say this is acceptable which is untrue. in your 50's your levels should be mid to high teens. go and checkout excelmaledotcom replace the dot with a . this forum used to be a bible for people with Low testosterone, it is not so good now, but will help you I got my blood test results today 13.7 nmol/L which to no surprise they have said is within an acceptable range. I'm going to book an appointment with my GP to discuss the results and ask what else could be causing my symptoms, if I don't get any progress I will look into having a private consultation. I take it your blood was taken before 10am in morning, when testing for testosterone in blood it must be taken as early as possible in morning, ideally as soon as surgery opens 8am / 8.30am, any blood taken after 10am is a total waste of time and will give false readings. 13nmol/L is low but doctors wont put you on TRT as it is acceptable, high teens to low 20's is normal" It was taken around lunch time which the hospital have noted this on the blood test report. I'm convinced that my testosterone levels are probably the cause of a lot of the symptoms that I have been having for around 10 years now after being really ill but was never diagnosed what was causing me to be so ill that resulted in massive weight loss for me (6 stone) even though not really being overweight a nearly a year off from work which caused me to suffer from depression which really I have never gotten over even though being on the maximum dose of antidepressants. | |||
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"After reading this post I've asked my GP for a blood test to test my Testosterone levels. I'm really hoping that they're going to be low as looking at several of the symptoms of having low testosterone I'm hoping that this could possibly cure several heath issues that I've had for several years now. Be prepaired to be fobbed off by your GP, satisfactory guideline levels are 9nmol/L - 28 nmol/L 9nmol/L is for a person 75 - 80 years old yet if you are in your late 40's, early 50's they will say this is acceptable which is untrue. in your 50's your levels should be mid to high teens. go and checkout excelmaledotcom replace the dot with a . this forum used to be a bible for people with Low testosterone, it is not so good now, but will help you I got my blood test results today 13.7 nmol/L which to no surprise they have said is within an acceptable range. I'm going to book an appointment with my GP to discuss the results and ask what else could be causing my symptoms, if I don't get any progress I will look into having a private consultation. I take it your blood was taken before 10am in morning, when testing for testosterone in blood it must be taken as early as possible in morning, ideally as soon as surgery opens 8am / 8.30am, any blood taken after 10am is a total waste of time and will give false readings. 13nmol/L is low but doctors wont put you on TRT as it is acceptable, high teens to low 20's is normal It was taken around lunch time which the hospital have noted this on the blood test report. I'm convinced that my testosterone levels are probably the cause of a lot of the symptoms that I have been having for around 10 years now after being really ill but was never diagnosed what was causing me to be so ill that resulted in massive weight loss for me (6 stone) even though not really being overweight a nearly a year off from work which caused me to suffer from depression which really I have never gotten over even though being on the maximum dose of antidepressants. " this forum will answer questions https://www.nebido.com/hcp/tools/testosterone-effects-onset when you log on tick the box I am an HCP | |||
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"I was handed, nay thrown all sorts of anti depressants sleeping pills etc but it turns out that wasted decade was actually low testosterone. Results between 3 and 6 nmol. Never higher than 7 and after a long period of dieting and no painkillers it was 1.8 NHS said no. Sorry no treatment. Cant afford private. Am now on TRT. Test cypionate & HCG daily. Self sourced and £35 a month approximately. Life has MASSIVELY improved in under 4months. It's night and day. Like I was living with a hangover before but now my life has rebooted If you can afford it, and you NEED IT (diagnosed through blood tests) and hafe tried improving diet lifestyle drinking drugs etc GO PRIVATE. Google TMHC they're amazing. " test cypionate an hcg what you taking weekly? As i did it an it increased my red/ white blood cells doc said was dangerous. Be interesting to know injection mg/ml you are taking. | |||
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"I was handed, nay thrown all sorts of anti depressants sleeping pills etc but it turns out that wasted decade was actually low testosterone. Results between 3 and 6 nmol. Never higher than 7 and after a long period of dieting and no painkillers it was 1.8 NHS said no. Sorry no treatment. Cant afford private. Am now on TRT. Test cypionate & HCG daily. Self sourced and £35 a month approximately. Life has MASSIVELY improved in under 4months. It's night and day. Like I was living with a hangover before but now my life has rebooted If you can afford it, and you NEED IT (diagnosed through blood tests) and hafe tried improving diet lifestyle drinking drugs etc GO PRIVATE. Google TMHC they're amazing. test cypionate an hcg what you taking weekly? As i did it an it increased my red/ white blood cells doc said was dangerous. Be interesting to know injection mg/ml you are taking." I was between 9 and 13nmol/L and placed on TRT via my GP and on prescription I am now 6 years in and feeling great. My testicles have shrunk slightly as your testicle no longer produce testosterone. HCG is not available on prescription and most GP's will not recommend it even though it prevents testicle shrinkage. TRT returns you to a fitness of your 20's along with regular daily erections, a feeling of well being and good health. It works well for me and I am gaining muscle too | |||
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"Medi checks will give the best list of blood stats you can get. " Testosterone levels need to be tested early morning Blood has to be taken as early as possible and definitely before 10am. | |||
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"I think high levels of testosterone contribute to many violent and sexual attacks on the venerable. " So glad I’m not a cleric | |||
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"I think high levels of testosterone contribute to many violent and sexual attacks on the venerable. So glad I’m not a cleric " Testosterone Replacement does not give you High Testosterone, it simply replaces what is missing in your body. Your correct dosage is worked out by regular blood tests and never above 28 nmol/L Only Bodybuilders taking excessively high dose of illegal steroids may suffer rage. | |||
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"I think high levels of testosterone contribute to many violent and sexual attacks on the venerable. So glad I’m not a cleric Testosterone Replacement does not give you High Testosterone, it simply replaces what is missing in your body. Your correct dosage is worked out by regular blood tests and never above 28 nmol/L Only Bodybuilders taking excessively high dose of illegal steroids may suffer rage." Exactly this 👍👍 | |||
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"I was tested and shown to be 9nmol/L, my doctor said this was within normal range, I then fractured my ankle and was seen by a specialist, I mentioned my low testosterone to him and he suspected I also had Low Bone Density. He carried out further tests and confirmed I was Low on Testosterone and Low Bone Density was the cause of my ankle fracture. His report was sent to my GP and I am now on TRT (Testosterone Replacement for life via NHS. I have been on Testosterone Replacement for over 4 years now, first two years on Testogel and once dosage was fixed out things worked well, I was on two sachets a day which are rubbed into your shoulders. I changed over to testosterone undecanoate (Nebido®) 1000mg /4ML injection every 8 weeks and this works just as well. I average 25nmol/L although peak is slightly higher and Trough slightly lower. My daily morning erections have returned and can achieve an erection as and when required, often when not required too. . So why was I placed on TRT, Testosterone Replacement I suffered Erectile Dysfunction for 3 years, I was unable to achieve or maintain erections and I also have an effeminate shaped body my other symptoms included; • fatigue • lethargy • depression • anxiety • irritability • low libido • erectile dysfunction • reduced exercise tolerance and strength • excessive sweating and night sweats • poor concentration or memory • needing to shave less often (my legs, arms and face were smooth only needed to shave once a week or less. My doctor and specialist eventually discovered this was due to Low Testosterone and I am now on Testosterone replacement for life. My overall well being has increased rapidly, my fitness, strength and im even getting noticeable muscles My Erections have also returned big time, powerful strong rock solid erections every morning and as and when my wife requires which is regular as she is 11 years younger than me and highly sexed is an understatement. Feel free to ask me anything regarding TRT and I will try and give a direct answer of my experience." You get one injection every several weeks and yet your level maintains without a significant peak or trough? After an injection you've had multiple blood draw tests to show this? | |||
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"I’m very confused two injections a week wow I’ve never heard of that before , testogel every day thighs or belly nebido 10 to 12 weeks it has many side effects sustanol 250 ever three weeks . Testogel there no visible side effects Nebido side effects are high blood pressure’s it causes a spike in BP Epilepsy,Heart problems, Sleep apnea, fatigue, renal problems. Regular blood work done. Sustanol side effects BP, fatigue, insomnia this just touches the surface . These are drugs not to be screwed about with they can cause lasting damage leading to many other drugs to try and sort a problem . " 2 a week helps loads with making sure your even. Genuinly the epidermis varies massivly from person to person. Testogel may be the less painful way, but look at the blood levels vs injecting. I have more layers of skin than average some people have less than average. Testogel is about as accurate as a smashed Casio. I have been on both. The only downside for me is injecting in thicker skin is hard. But I inject a test blend twice a week and have extremely steady levels | |||
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