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"Nigeria is on the verge of passing a law to criminalise the wearing of clothes intended for the opposite sex. " WTF..it's a crazy world..which in many places is going backwards not forwards..look at Texas..it's like the puritans are back in town. I hate to say it but religion is behind a lot of the crap, so sad. Mankind talks of freedom but lays down laws of who, what, why..one day there ll be so many laws and expectations that freedom will get up and fly away | |||
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"I am homosexual and atheist It really makes my blood boil I believe Religion Racism etc is taught or passed down from generation and a choice But whatever sexuality you define yourself as you was born that way, it's in the genes not a choice " I have heard that point of view so many times over the years. Being gay is in the genes. If that were so then by its very definition it would have died out millennia ago. True homosexuals do not have children. Religion bu its very nature is passed on from generation to generation. It is not a natural idea and we all know its taught in schools, churches, mosques etc. Racism is an innate feature of humans am afraid, regardless of do gooders and their laws. Our nature was always to protect the tribe, ensure our genes go on. This means keeping "foreigners/strangers" away. This does not just happen with humans. Virtually all animals are tribal and will defend violently their tribe. Lions when they gain dominance invariably kill the preceding leaders cubs to ensure its genes survive.Chimps form very large troops and actively attack these "foreigners". Just todays tribes are bigger and claim "intelligence" | |||
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"I am homosexual and atheist It really makes my blood boil I believe Religion Racism etc is taught or passed down from generation and a choice But whatever sexuality you define yourself as you was born that way, it's in the genes not a choice I have heard that point of view so many times over the years. Being gay is in the genes. If that were so then by its very definition it would have died out millennia ago. True homosexuals do not have children. Religion bu its very nature is passed on from generation to generation. It is not a natural idea and we all know its taught in schools, churches, mosques etc. Racism is an innate feature of humans am afraid, regardless of do gooders and their laws. Our nature was always to protect the tribe, ensure our genes go on. This means keeping "foreigners/strangers" away. This does not just happen with humans. Virtually all animals are tribal and will defend violently their tribe. Lions when they gain dominance invariably kill the preceding leaders cubs to ensure its genes survive.Chimps form very large troops and actively attack these "foreigners". Just todays tribes are bigger and claim "intelligence"" Sorry l am not one to judge And not willing to debate about this I have in the past researched about my sexuality as my mum couldn't understand why a man finds another man attractive but said she accepted it I totally disagree with your theory Homosexuality is NOT just about sex | |||
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"I am homosexual and atheist It really makes my blood boil I believe Religion Racism etc is taught or passed down from generation and a choice But whatever sexuality you define yourself as you was born that way, it's in the genes not a choice I have heard that point of view so many times over the years. Being gay is in the genes. If that were so then by its very definition it would have died out millennia ago. True homosexuals do not have children. Religion bu its very nature is passed on from generation to generation. It is not a natural idea and we all know its taught in schools, churches, mosques etc. Racism is an innate feature of humans am afraid, regardless of do gooders and their laws. Our nature was always to protect the tribe, ensure our genes go on. This means keeping "foreigners/strangers" away. This does not just happen with humans. Virtually all animals are tribal and will defend violently their tribe. Lions when they gain dominance invariably kill the preceding leaders cubs to ensure its genes survive.Chimps form very large troops and actively attack these "foreigners". Just todays tribes are bigger and claim "intelligence" Sorry l am not one to judge And not willing to debate about this I have in the past researched about my sexuality as my mum couldn't understand why a man finds another man attractive but said she accepted it I totally disagree with your theory Homosexuality is NOT just about sex " You stated "it is in the genes". So your mum and day were homosexual? Your grandparents? You can accept my theory or not, it changes nothing. It cannot be genetic.Homosexuality and bisexuality are not just about sex, you are right. It is a mental thing, for gays it is a choice, often driven by a deep need after years of unhappiness. For bisexuals it is curiosity at best and a personal choice. My statement stands against any test of science. It cannot be genetic. True homosexuals do not breed and therefore would have died out within a generation even if such a gene gained prominence in our DNA. We don't still have tails. Do we? | |||
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"I totally disagree with your theory Homosexuality is NOT just about sex " I think we have the beginnings of a nature vs. nurture debate here. I seem to remember that, when the "cause of homosexuality" was researched the ultimate conclusion said it was both. I'd have to Google it to be sure. | |||
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"I totally disagree with your theory Homosexuality is NOT just about sex I think we have the beginnings of a nature vs. nurture debate here. I seem to remember that, when the "cause of homosexuality" was researched the ultimate conclusion said it was both. I'd have to Google it to be sure." I know, as am sure many of you will men who have had families and then come out as gay. Schofield springs to mind for one. Does this mean they were not gay at some point? Or have been bisexual and now choose to declare as "gay". Either way it is not a genetic trait but a choice. True homosexuals do not have children, therefore they cannot pass on those "genes". That means the genetic line dies out. It is simple science | |||
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"I am homosexual and atheist It really makes my blood boil I believe Religion Racism etc is taught or passed down from generation and a choice But whatever sexuality you define yourself as you was born that way, it's in the genes not a choice " As far as I’m aware, there’s no proof to support the theory that there is a “gay gene”. I believe it can feel genetic, it can feel like you’ve always been gay even long before puberty, but I don’t think it’s genetic. I’ve never tried oysters but I just know I wouldn’t like them. I tried curry and I don’t like it. I love both Italian and Chinese food. I love most traditional English food but not all. My 3 best mates all love curry and hot spicy food. There’s no gene that makes us different, it’s a combination of life experience and personal preference. I had no idea what gay men did in bed when I was in my early teens, I’d heard the phrase “bumming” but I had no idea what it meant. It was only when I had an actual experience that I found out. I have no idea why some people prefer sex with the same gender, and I have no idea why some people like hot spicy curry. They just do. But it’s not genetic. | |||
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"I am homosexual and atheist It really makes my blood boil I believe Religion Racism etc is taught or passed down from generation and a choice But whatever sexuality you define yourself as you was born that way, it's in the genes not a choice I have heard that point of view so many times over the years. Being gay is in the genes. If that were so then by its very definition it would have died out millennia ago. True homosexuals do not have children. Religion bu its very nature is passed on from generation to generation. It is not a natural idea and we all know its taught in schools, churches, mosques etc. Racism is an innate feature of humans am afraid, regardless of do gooders and their laws. Our nature was always to protect the tribe, ensure our genes go on. This means keeping "foreigners/strangers" away. This does not just happen with humans. Virtually all animals are tribal and will defend violently their tribe. Lions when they gain dominance invariably kill the preceding leaders cubs to ensure its genes survive.Chimps form very large troops and actively attack these "foreigners". Just todays tribes are bigger and claim "intelligence" Sorry l am not one to judge And not willing to debate about this I have in the past researched about my sexuality as my mum couldn't understand why a man finds another man attractive but said she accepted it I totally disagree with your theory Homosexuality is NOT just about sex You stated "it is in the genes". So your mum and day were homosexual? Your grandparents? You can accept my theory or not, it changes nothing. It cannot be genetic.Homosexuality and bisexuality are not just about sex, you are right. It is a mental thing, for gays it is a choice, often driven by a deep need after years of unhappiness. For bisexuals it is curiosity at best and a personal choice. My statement stands against any test of science. It cannot be genetic. True homosexuals do not breed and therefore would have died out within a generation even if such a gene gained prominence in our DNA. We don't still have tails. Do we?" You're theory that because your mum and dad are not homesexual then it is not genetic is just nonsense. There are recessive genes, there is a 50/50 chance of having a gene as there are two donors, genes also have switches that can be on or off, there are mutations. And for older people on here, there will some whose parents were closeted homos who weren't out due to societal pressures | |||
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"I am homosexual and atheist It really makes my blood boil I believe Religion Racism etc is taught or passed down from generation and a choice But whatever sexuality you define yourself as you was born that way, it's in the genes not a choice I have heard that point of view so many times over the years. Being gay is in the genes. If that were so then by its very definition it would have died out millennia ago. True homosexuals do not have children. Religion bu its very nature is passed on from generation to generation. It is not a natural idea and we all know its taught in schools, churches, mosques etc. Racism is an innate feature of humans am afraid, regardless of do gooders and their laws. Our nature was always to protect the tribe, ensure our genes go on. This means keeping "foreigners/strangers" away. This does not just happen with humans. Virtually all animals are tribal and will defend violently their tribe. Lions when they gain dominance invariably kill the preceding leaders cubs to ensure its genes survive.Chimps form very large troops and actively attack these "foreigners". Just todays tribes are bigger and claim "intelligence" Sorry l am not one to judge And not willing to debate about this I have in the past researched about my sexuality as my mum couldn't understand why a man finds another man attractive but said she accepted it I totally disagree with your theory Homosexuality is NOT just about sex You stated "it is in the genes". So your mum and day were homosexual? Your grandparents? You can accept my theory or not, it changes nothing. It cannot be genetic.Homosexuality and bisexuality are not just about sex, you are right. It is a mental thing, for gays it is a choice, often driven by a deep need after years of unhappiness. For bisexuals it is curiosity at best and a personal choice. My statement stands against any test of science. It cannot be genetic. True homosexuals do not breed and therefore would have died out within a generation even if such a gene gained prominence in our DNA. We don't still have tails. Do we? You're theory that because your mum and dad are not homesexual then it is not genetic is just nonsense. There are recessive genes, there is a 50/50 chance of having a gene as there are two donors, genes also have switches that can be on or off, there are mutations. And for older people on here, there will some whose parents were closeted homos who weren't out due to societal pressures " Your knowledge of genetics is very shallow. No doubt you read about recessive genes but do not understand them. They exist because there was no reason for them to be bred out and as you say tend to be revealed when two mix. This is not the same as a redundant gene such as the op claimed about homosexuality. Homosexuals DO NOT BREED. It would have died out millennia ago. Why do so many people like you think genetics is just your mum and dad? | |||
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"I am homosexual and atheist It really makes my blood boil I believe Religion Racism etc is taught or passed down from generation and a choice But whatever sexuality you define yourself as you was born that way, it's in the genes not a choice I have heard that point of view so many times over the years. Being gay is in the genes. If that were so then by its very definition it would have died out millennia ago. True homosexuals do not have children. Religion bu its very nature is passed on from generation to generation. It is not a natural idea and we all know its taught in schools, churches, mosques etc. Racism is an innate feature of humans am afraid, regardless of do gooders and their laws. Our nature was always to protect the tribe, ensure our genes go on. This means keeping "foreigners/strangers" away. This does not just happen with humans. Virtually all animals are tribal and will defend violently their tribe. Lions when they gain dominance invariably kill the preceding leaders cubs to ensure its genes survive.Chimps form very large troops and actively attack these "foreigners". Just todays tribes are bigger and claim "intelligence" Sorry l am not one to judge And not willing to debate about this I have in the past researched about my sexuality as my mum couldn't understand why a man finds another man attractive but said she accepted it I totally disagree with your theory Homosexuality is NOT just about sex You stated "it is in the genes". So your mum and day were homosexual? Your grandparents? You can accept my theory or not, it changes nothing. It cannot be genetic.Homosexuality and bisexuality are not just about sex, you are right. It is a mental thing, for gays it is a choice, often driven by a deep need after years of unhappiness. For bisexuals it is curiosity at best and a personal choice. My statement stands against any test of science. It cannot be genetic. True homosexuals do not breed and therefore would have died out within a generation even if such a gene gained prominence in our DNA. We don't still have tails. Do we? You're theory that because your mum and dad are not homesexual then it is not genetic is just nonsense. There are recessive genes, there is a 50/50 chance of having a gene as there are two donors, genes also have switches that can be on or off, there are mutations. And for older people on here, there will some whose parents were closeted homos who weren't out due to societal pressures Your knowledge of genetics is very shallow. No doubt you read about recessive genes but do not understand them. They exist because there was no reason for them to be bred out and as you say tend to be revealed when two mix. This is not the same as a redundant gene such as the op claimed about homosexuality. Homosexuals DO NOT BREED. It would have died out millennia ago. Why do so many people like you think genetics is just your mum and dad?" It was actually you who brought up "So your mum and day were homosexual?" sic | |||
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"So mother and son as 2 consenting adults is acceptable to because they like it?" If you’re in Greek Mythology, yes. But then scenario you mention is a moral issue. Being gay also used to be a moral issue. Different people have a different set of morals. In some countries a girl can marry as soon as she hits puberty. It’s morally acceptable over there for a 10yo to marry but sex outside marriage isn’t and is a crime. Over here to most people it’s not morally acceptable for a 10yo to be having sex but sex outside marriage is. Once you start talking about “right and wrong” you’ve opened a different can of worms to the one we were debating | |||
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" As far as I’m aware, there’s no proof to support the theory that there is a “gay gene”. I believe it can feel genetic, it can feel like you’ve always been gay even long before puberty, but I don’t think it’s genetic. I’ve never tried oysters but I just know I wouldn’t like them. I tried curry and I don’t like it. I love both Italian and Chinese food. I love most traditional English food but not all. My 3 best mates all love curry and hot spicy food. There’s no gene that makes us different, it’s a combination of life experience and personal preference. I had no idea what gay men did in bed when I was in my early teens, I’d heard the phrase “bumming” but I had no idea what it meant. It was only when I had an actual experience that I found out. I have no idea why some people prefer sex with the same gender, and I have no idea why some people like hot spicy curry. They just do. But it’s not genetic. " The 'cause' for homosexuality has never been successfully proven. Fact remains that a small but sizeable percentage of people are. It's even found in the animal kingdom as well so not just a human trait. Nature or Nurture? I rather think nature. Why else would you get three brothers, born over a period of 4 years, all brought up together under identical circumstances yet two are straight and one is gay. There are even identical twins where one is straight and the other gay. It is still one of life's mysteries. | |||
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" Why else would you get three brothers, born over a period of 4 years, all brought up together under identical circumstances yet two are straight and one is gay. There are even identical twins where one is straight and the other gay. It is still one of life's mysteries." Statistically, the third brother is more likely to be gay. | |||
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"Nigeria is on the verge of passing a law to criminalise the wearing of clothes intended for the opposite sex. " Errr…. Traditional northern Nigerian robes look a bit like a dress. | |||
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