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"no but was told off and told not to do it " your a very naughty boy | |||
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"no but was told off and told not to do it your a very naughty boy" He's not a very naughty boy, he's the Messiah! | |||
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"A local councelor was arrested cittaging. It went to court, he was found guilty. He stood for MP but lost (he was a Labour candidate and it was the time of the Iraq war) but later became deputy leader of the council and was the real power in the borough. Nasty piece of work though. " I though you were gonna say it was Tony Blair | |||
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"Sorry that happened to you, you must have been scared. Im glad times have changed to a more accepting society." More accepting to having sex in public toilets? | |||
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"Not in a cottage but I did get a caution for getting fucked on the top deck of a bus, it had gone by a police station and they could see me clearly getting fucked on the top deck." Having sex in very public places where kids can see and go is very odd, and most likely a lie too | |||
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"Years ago i was in a cottage in plymouth,id just gone in and was in a cubicle when i heard "your under arrest" outside. Came out after 5 mins to see two guys who were at urinals being put into police van. Nothing was said to me but i still nearly shit myself" At least you’d have been in the right place! | |||
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"Not in a cottage but I did get a caution for getting fucked on the top deck of a bus, it had gone by a police station and they could see me clearly getting fucked on the top deck. Having sex in very public places where kids can see and go is very odd, and most likely a lie too" I think "most likely" is being overly generous. They where upstairs in the police station when the bus passed, yet they were able to get downstairs, get t.o their cars and catch up with the bus, plus be able to recognise him. | |||
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"Once was just coming out of a cottage as three uniformed walked in - close shave I think. another time I was in a cruising area and sat on a bench next to guy. He seemed distant and odd in some way. I just blurted it out - “you don’t seem comfortable”, then the penny dropped. “Are you a police officer?” Of course he was obliged to admit it, otherwise it would be seen as entrapment. A few days later a letter arrived at my door clearly marked Manchester Police. They had clocked my car registration. They letter warned that I had been seen in a notorious gay cruising area and should report any suspicious behaviour I might see. To this day I suspect a police record was made and might be disclosed to potential employers. I once applied for a role on a tribunal and was pointedly asked by the interviewing officer if there was anything in my past which might be a cause of embarrassment to the justice department. Of course I said no, as I have no criminal convictions, but the veiled undertone was there nonetheless and I didn’t get the position. Today I could probably claim unfair discrimination on sexuality grounds and ask to review any police records, but it’s probably not worth the fuss and possible publicity." I wouldn't worry too much. If you apply for a DBS check you get sent a copy of the disclosure which is sent to the organisation applying for it. The only exception would be if you were subject to some covert ongoing investigation which telling you could jeopardise the case. If you ho Gov UK website it'll tell you how you can make a subject access request to the police. | |||
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"One of the posts above reminded me of an incident or rather a non-incident. Stopped off for a pee one night in a toilet in a quiet market town. Old fashioned toilet with a long trough urinal and a door at either end. As I stood there a youngish and quite good looking policeman came through the door at the far end. Instead of standing at his end of the urinal to pee He came and stood by me and we fell into conversation. Just general stuff like where was I from and him saying how boring and lonely the night shift could be. We continued talking for a few minutes after we had zipped up. Always wondered if he was just being sociable or looking for a bit of fun." Or just trying to bait you more than likely. | |||
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"One of the posts above reminded me of an incident or rather a non-incident. Stopped off for a pee one night in a toilet in a quiet market town. Old fashioned toilet with a long trough urinal and a door at either end. As I stood there a youngish and quite good looking policeman came through the door at the far end. Instead of standing at his end of the urinal to pee He came and stood by me and we fell into conversation. Just general stuff like where was I from and him saying how boring and lonely the night shift could be. We continued talking for a few minutes after we had zipped up. Always wondered if he was just being sociable or looking for a bit of fun. Or just trying to bait you more than likely." I did wonder that. However I was a serving soldier at the time, which he knew, so I think he was just bored and happy to talk to someone | |||
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"Not in a cottage but I did get a caution for getting fucked on the top deck of a bus, it had gone by a police station and they could see me clearly getting fucked on the top deck. Having sex in very public places where kids can see and go is very odd, and most likely a lie too I think "most likely" is being overly generous. They where upstairs in the police station when the bus passed, yet they were able to get downstairs, get t.o their cars and catch up with the bus, plus be able to recognise him." Maybe they just radioed for a police vehicle in the area to stop the bus and speak to him. | |||
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"I dont understand the need to have sex in grubby toilets these days,when you have these sites,saunas,and good out of the way cruising spots ,can understand the need in the bad old days when it was illegal to be gay ." I've never been cottaging because, apart from the danger, I just don't fancy having sex in a grubby, smelly toilet. However other options are not that easily available if you live out in the sticks. Sites like this are a godsend but not over reliable. So called cruising spots are often a disappointment and gay venues and saunas are all at least 90 miles away. | |||
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"Could it be classed as entrapment......I know nothing of the Law...and when you come to think about it the Police must be hand picked...you can’t tll me they are not ok with doing that........the guy who posted the question really did have a bad experience....I’m feel so sorry that it happened....." It wouldn't be entrapment, the OP has said what he was doing there. It's also likely that the police were there as a result of complaints from members of the public, probably spending a couple of hours nicking people every 6 months or so. | |||
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"No although I was once mugged at knife point in a cottage that I was using for it's legal purpose and when I reported the incident the police officer was was far more interested as to why I was there than my missing wallet. Karma came a few years later when I was one of the (then) local LGBT team that helped with training the police on diversity issues. He didn't remember me. I remembered him." Yes they get their coneuppance...good for you | |||
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"How long before it becomes a spent conviction? " Never... the OP got a caution not a conviction. Cautions remain on your record gor ever. Stupid really, you can be convicted for say assault but one spent it disappears. But a caution for assault will be a problem for ever - happpened to a lad i knew at work. Just a youthful pub brawl, nothing major, but it follows him still. | |||
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"This is why I am not keen on outdoor sex always makes me nervous love being watched but not by police lol" Same here | |||
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"After a night out. I'd had few drinks and decided to go to a notorious underground cottage. No one there so I hung around nearby. I went back a couple of times again nothing. I heard footsteps and thought here we go. To my horror the crackle of a police radio. In walked 2 plain clothed officers. It's amazing how many times people need a piss round here said one of them. I took the opportunity to get out of there and fled. They didn't follow. I got a taxi home asap. That explains why there were no punters around. The cottage was being watched " Reminds me of a time 20 plus years ago when I was in a two stall cottage with a great gh between them. I was waiting in one stall and the hole was stuffed with paper. Finally someone came into the next stall and before I could remove the paper a police radio went off. He quickly left followed by me a couple of minutes later. Two officers were standing outside and said "we have had a report of suspicious behaviour in there, did you see or hear anything". Truthfully I answered "no, nothing". It had been very quiet that day! | |||
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"Don't want to be flippant, but these days it's getting hard to find a public toilet even for its intended purpose..." Amen to that ! Never been arrested as such , but had a couple of close calls .. One as a student in Guildford was in cottage in town and the police burst in . They pounced on two guys at the urinals , but as i was in a cubicle just about to suck the beauty that had come through the glory hole , they didn't actually see anything . They were very aggressive i recall , and really pissed off that they hadn't actually been able to nick either of us . Another time cruising at Wisley , well after dark , and for anyone who knows it , up the hill behind where the toilets / cafe were .. suddenly a load of torches all switched on at same moment .. very intimidating but as I was still fully clothed and just walking in the dark , they reluctantly agreed they couldn't do anything One of them did have the grace to look a bit embarrasses .. as if to say .. yes i know this is a complete waste of resources | |||
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"Worth bearing in mind that even today sex in a public toilet remains a specific criminal offence, even if the outcome is just a “there’s better places to do that lads” ticking off. However cruising to meet a guy or guys for sex outside is perfectly legal, and provided you don’t engage in sex in public in a way that outrages public decency or causes shock and distress to someone watching, so sex in a public place is legal if you have a reasonable expectation of privacy. It would hard to imagine that you could be prosecuted if covertly observed by a hidden policeman who you didn’t know was there and whose job it was to spy on guys having sex - he could hardly claim to be shocked or distressed when he was actually supposed to be looking for it! So today when the policeman says “Do you admit to being a homosexual?” You can cheerfully say you are, and proud of it, and are hoping to meet another man and intend to have sex with him or another man. You can also point out that merely asking that question is a breach of the Equalities and Discrimination Act, and is a statutory offence. You could also perfectly legally ask him if he intends to have sex in the near future, provided you make no reference to his sexuality. (Not a lawyer, just my lay interpretation of the law)" Well thats exactly whathappened in toilets here ie an arrest leading to a prosecution of a man who started to masturbate in front of a civilian dressed policeman .. about ten months ago. The guys name address and profession were all covered in the local paper plus he was married. He was crying in court saying his life was ruined. Very sad. | |||
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"Worth bearing in mind that even today sex in a public toilet remains a specific criminal offence, even if the outcome is just a “there’s better places to do that lads” ticking off. However cruising to meet a guy or guys for sex outside is perfectly legal, and provided you don’t engage in sex in public in a way that outrages public decency or causes shock and distress to someone watching, so sex in a public place is legal if you have a reasonable expectation of privacy. It would hard to imagine that you could be prosecuted if covertly observed by a hidden policeman who you didn’t know was there and whose job it was to spy on guys having sex - he could hardly claim to be shocked or distressed when he was actually supposed to be looking for it! So today when the policeman says “Do you admit to being a homosexual?” You can cheerfully say you are, and proud of it, and are hoping to meet another man and intend to have sex with him or another man. You can also point out that merely asking that question is a breach of the Equalities and Discrimination Act, and is a statutory offence. You could also perfectly legally ask him if he intends to have sex in the near future, provided you make no reference to his sexuality. (Not a lawyer, just my lay interpretation of the law)" The most important part of your post is the last line. You're not a lawyer. | |||
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"I have had several encounters with the law over the last 45 years, all involving my homosexuality None of the encounters improved my view of the Police and even now I wouldn't piss on one if he/she was in flames " Hear!Hear! | |||
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"Worth bearing in mind that even today sex in a public toilet remains a specific criminal offence, even if the outcome is just a “there’s better places to do that lads” ticking off. However cruising to meet a guy or guys for sex outside is perfectly legal, and provided you don’t engage in sex in public in a way that outrages public decency or causes shock and distress to someone watching, so sex in a public place is legal if you have a reasonable expectation of privacy. It would hard to imagine that you could be prosecuted if covertly observed by a hidden policeman who you didn’t know was there and whose job it was to spy on guys having sex - he could hardly claim to be shocked or distressed when he was actually supposed to be looking for it! So today when the policeman says “Do you admit to being a homosexual?” You can cheerfully say you are, and proud of it, and are hoping to meet another man and intend to have sex with him or another man. You can also point out that merely asking that question is a breach of the Equalities and Discrimination Act, and is a statutory offence. You could also perfectly legally ask him if he intends to have sex in the near future, provided you make no reference to his sexuality. (Not a lawyer, just my lay interpretation of the law) The most important part of your post is the last line. You're not a lawyer." If you know better, let’s hear about it.. …. | |||
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"In the mid 90’s I’d regularly stop off at Amersham toilets on the way home from work. One evening I parked up and went inside. Joined another guy at the urinal. We were just about to go into a cubicle when someone shouted at us to “stand still”. We did the opposite! The other guy went out the door first, turned left and was caught by a copper. I went right and escaped, but my car was still there. I went to Tescos round the corner for a while hoping they’d have gone when I came back. They hadn’t! Took me up to the nick for a couple of hours. Quite embarrassing but just got a caution in the end. Turns out one of them had been watching through a skylight in the roof 🙄" “ Just got a caution in the end” A police caution means you had to admit to the offence and would have a criminal record. On the other hand a “warning” has no record I think. | |||
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