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"An electric car battery developed by UK start-up Nyobolt has successfully charged from 10% to 80% in four minutes and 37 seconds in its first live demonstration. Looks like this is the way we will be heading for sure." And it only costs £100,000 each. I expect. | |||
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"An electric car battery developed by UK start-up Nyobolt has successfully charged from 10% to 80% in four minutes and 37 seconds in its first live demonstration. Looks like this is the way we will be heading for sure." It’s the way everyone is getting pushed. Batteries for electric cars are about the dirtiest item on the planet to make and harmful to the environment when disposed of, and can’t be recycled. You’ll probably have to pay to dispose of an EV when it’s much more than 7 years old, perhaps earlier. Lithium and cobalt prices will skyrocket so car prices will too. Most electric is generated by burning fossil fuels so all the co2 figures for an EV are imaginary All so one man can take the super rich into space and the greenies are loving it. I just don’t get why intelligent people can’t, or won’t, see the big picture. The only reason I can think of is there’s a conspiracy to do away with personal travel | |||
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"An electric car battery developed by UK start-up Nyobolt has successfully charged from 10% to 80% in four minutes and 37 seconds in its first live demonstration. Looks like this is the way we will be heading for sure." there are the biggest joke ever, they are an accident waiting to happen. The government say they are good for the environment, what about all the airplanes in the sky ,and diesel wagons and busses on the road, put loads of crap into the atmosphere.  | |||
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"An electric car battery developed by UK start-up Nyobolt has successfully charged from 10% to 80% in four minutes and 37 seconds in its first live demonstration. Looks like this is the way we will be heading for sure. It’s the way everyone is getting pushed. Batteries for electric cars are about the dirtiest item on the planet to make and harmful to the environment when disposed of, and can’t be recycled. You’ll probably have to pay to dispose of an EV when it’s much more than 7 years old, perhaps earlier. Lithium and cobalt prices will skyrocket so car prices will too. Most electric is generated by burning fossil fuels so all the co2 figures for an EV are imaginary All so one man can take the super rich into space and the greenies are loving it. I just don’t get why intelligent people can’t, or won’t, see the big picture. The only reason I can think of is there’s a conspiracy to do away with personal travel " 15 minute cities ! | |||
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"Electric cars - scam of the century..." I agree. Nothing environmentally friendly about them. | |||
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"An electric car battery developed by UK start-up Nyobolt has successfully charged from 10% to 80% in four minutes and 37 seconds in its first live demonstration. Looks like this is the way we will be heading for sure." To charge that quickly it needs a 350KW charger, the fastest home charger is currently only 22KW and that needs a costly (thousands of pounds) 3 phase electricity supply connected to your house. Their web site says it has a charging speed of 1600 mph. That's not how charging speed is measured. | |||
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"We have an electric car for wife, mines diesel, charge at home,, 180 m ile range is more than enough for her,, cheap electric over night,, great if you have off road home parking and need a short range car.cant fault it for that" What about sucking men off in a lay-by? What's an EV like for that? | |||
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"An electric car battery developed by UK start-up Nyobolt has successfully charged from 10% to 80% in four minutes and 37 seconds in its first live demonstration. Looks like this is the way we will be heading for sure." That’s really encouraging for when you aren’t able to charge at home. Mine takes about 30 mins which is usually quicker than grabbing lunch, or not waiting around too long after grabbing a drink and a pee. It would put it on par with filling up a fossil fuel car. There’s another manufacturer working with Polestar who are managing similar average times on a larger pack too. | |||
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"Electric cars - scam of the century..." Yep, it’s like the Betamax of the video world, EV’s are a dead end. we have fantastic internal combustion engines, let’s develop these further with alternative fuels and filtering systems . | |||
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"An electric car battery developed by UK start-up Nyobolt has successfully charged from 10% to 80% in four minutes and 37 seconds in its first live demonstration. Looks like this is the way we will be heading for sure." Like anything else, EVs will continue to get better. Unfortunately, any discussion about EVs brings out the technophobic dinosaurs who’ve obtained their ‘facts’ from clickbait articles that spew crap. | |||
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"Electric cars - scam of the century..." How many EVs have you driven? At the age of 69, I’ve owned and driven lots of ICE cars, as have most EV owners. Unless you read click bait articles that are full of crap, you’ll be hard pressed to find a genuine EV owner who’ll ever switch back to ICE. I won’t. | |||
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"EVs...rich boys' toys." Originally, yes but not now. You can buy a fantastic second hand EV for under 10k. They only need servicing every couple of years and servicing is dirt cheap. And there isn’t much to go wrong on an EV. Most batteries are warrantied for 8 years and they are lasting considerably longer than originally anticipated. Certainly at least double the warranty period. I’d never buy a used ICE car, with their valves, timing belts, gear boxes etc. Ridiculous things. | |||
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"If this is true, This is one of the technological breakthroughs that EV need to become more user friendly, cost bring another, although new cars in any form are expensive anyway. However, the main thing needed is a charging network that a) supports the rapid charge cycle, and b) is as common as the humble fuel station. " The charging infrastructure is already more than enough for the number of EVs that are currently owned and it’s expanding rapidly. Having said that, if you consider the situation purely from a financial point of view, you have to be able to charge at home on the cheap rate that many energy companies offer. | |||
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"Only works if you have means of charging. Live in a flat with no off-street parking and your fucked." When I bought my first EV I had to wait 2 months before I could get a home charger (bad planning on my part). I had zero problems charging. | |||
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"An electric car battery developed by UK start-up Nyobolt has successfully charged from 10% to 80% in four minutes and 37 seconds in its first live demonstration. Looks like this is the way we will be heading for sure. It’s the way everyone is getting pushed. Batteries for electric cars are about the dirtiest item on the planet to make and harmful to the environment when disposed of, and can’t be recycled. You’ll probably have to pay to dispose of an EV when it’s much more than 7 years old, perhaps earlier. Lithium and cobalt prices will skyrocket so car prices will too. Most electric is generated by burning fossil fuels so all the co2 figures for an EV are imaginary All so one man can take the super rich into space and the greenies are loving it. I just don’t get why intelligent people can’t, or won’t, see the big picture. The only reason I can think of is there’s a conspiracy to do away with personal travel " I suggest you do some actual research. One UK company can recycle 95% of EV batteries. More will follow suit. And at times, renewable energy is so abundant that under their Agile tariff, Octopus pay customers to use it or give it away for free. And the newish LFP batteries contain no cobalt. Did you know that cobalt is used to catalyse the removal of sulphur from oil? Will that stop you from using your ICE vehicle? | |||
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"EVs...rich boys' toys. Originally, yes but not now. You can buy a fantastic second hand EV for under 10k. They only need servicing every couple of years and servicing is dirt cheap. And there isn’t much to go wrong on an EV. Most batteries are warrantied for 8 years and they are lasting considerably longer than originally anticipated. Certainly at least double the warranty period. I’d never buy a used ICE car, with their valves, timing belts, gear boxes etc. Ridiculous things." How are people who live in flats meant to charge these things up? Massive extension leads? Like I said, rich boys' toys. They help keep people in their place I guess. The middle and upper classes rule all. | |||
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"We have an electric car for wife, mines diesel, charge at home,, 180 m ile range is more than enough for her,, cheap electric over night,, great if you have off road home parking and need a short range car.cant fault it for that" It’s good for long range too. How often would you drive for 180 miles without a rest? I’d never do that. Stop for a coffee and plug into a rapid charger. By the time you’ve had coffee and been to the loo, the car is fully charged. Most EVs have a satnav that tells you where the chargers are on your way to your destination, how fast they are and some even say if they’re in use. I’m on holiday in Florida soon and I’ve booked an EV instead of an ICE car. Range anxiety is a myth. I don’t know a single EV driver who worries about range. | |||
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"We have an electric car for wife, mines diesel, charge at home,, 180 m ile range is more than enough for her,, cheap electric over night,, great if you have off road home parking and need a short range car.cant fault it for that It’s good for long range too. How often would you drive for 180 miles without a rest? I’d never do that. Stop for a coffee and plug into a rapid charger. By the time you’ve had coffee and been to the loo, the car is fully charged. Most EVs have a satnav that tells you where the chargers are on your way to your destination, how fast they are and some even say if they’re in use. I’m on holiday in Florida soon and I’ve booked an EV instead of an ICE car. Range anxiety is a myth. I don’t know a single EV driver who worries about range." Are you on commission or something? | |||
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"Electric cars - scam of the century... How many EVs have you driven? At the age of 69, I’ve owned and driven lots of ICE cars, as have most EV owners. Unless you read click bait articles that are full of crap, you’ll be hard pressed to find a genuine EV owner who’ll ever switch back to ICE. I won’t." Driven loads thanks - More than most in fact. With work I have anything between 5-15 rental cars a month & that's since 2013. In that time there aren't many factory produced makes & models I haven't driven, including ICE, full electric & hybrid vehicles - I can confirm all electric cars I've driven are proper shite. Even ignoring the fact they don't even do the job that a car should do - from cradle to grave the environmental impact is worse than an ICE car, they won't last as long & the charging infrastructure is pretty much non existent outside of major towns, cities & away from arterial routes, Then there's the reality check to consider that the cost is still out of most people's means - how do people who live in flats, high rise, terraces & with street parking charge them....they won't... Essentially - until they are genuinely "green", affordable, can do 600 miles, tow my caravan/ horse trailer, perform reliably off road & take 8x4 sheets I ain't interested - & this ain't happening in my lifetime...if ever..... I still don't get how they're going to be recycled (esp the battery) & what's their lifespan..? I see 25 yr plus ICE vehicles driving around every day - fairly confident we won't be seeing many 25 yr old Tesla's running around in the futy!! Bottom line is the cons way outnumber the pro's at the moment & I can't see that shifting any time soon.... Still - I'm sure those born in the "one born every minute" category will keep buying them!
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"Recent sales figures would suggest people are starting to wake up. Most ev sales are to business's as companies get get tax breaks on them. Private user sales are nose diving. Still a couple of manufacturers are now selling hydrogen cars hooraa should of gone that way in the first place." The government has mandated a quota , 22% of new car sales to be EV this year. Manufacturers who fail to meet this target will need penalised. Right now, they are well short of this target so we could see some heavy discounting. | |||
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"Where are he electric come from to charge them ? Fossil fuels bit pointless really " Erm wind power, nuclear, natural gas (ok not exactly a non fossil fuel but no oil or coal hurt in the process) | |||
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"I love it when ev owners bang on about how wonderful they are and everybody else is clueless. Completely deluded. As for 15 minute charging even if that becomes a thing its just a shame there will be 10 other cars in the queue all waiting for their 15 minutes of fame. Remember the chaos the other year with the huge queues of tossla drivers waiting to get charged. Self charging hybrid will be the way forward, especially with how efficient petrol engines can be." Petrol engines are 40% efficient at best. The cost of the changes to make engines meet new emissions rules are being passed onto the customer and will keep increasing. It’s why so many small cars have gone, there isn’t the profit margins in them. Waiting 10 mins is no different to waiting at a busy petrol station by the time you’ve got to the pump filled up and queued to pay and that seems to work ok. It’s challenging the status quo we are all used to and have been for decades. Habits take time to change but regardless of the options fossil fuels will run out at some point and we don’t know when. The price of fuel will always continue to rise and be taxed more as time goes on. Hydrogen isn’t a viable option currently and who knows if it ever will be. Plus I’m not convinced I’d want a highly flammable, odourless and colourless gas in a tank near me. Bar going back to horses and carriages we don’t have much else to choose from. I think the heyday of having a private car and being able to get in and go where you want when you want is on the decline has passed. We are too reliant on them regardless of how they are fuelled. | |||
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I think the annual tax on my fossil fuel engine on 2 wheels is about £100. | |||
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"The only reason I can think of is there’s a conspiracy to do away with personal travel " Please no. I don't want my bus abd train journeys to be filled with swivel eyed pub bores. | |||
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"Electric cars are on their way out... thankfully they've now started actively marketing the future. The future is hydrogen. There's no way we can produce enough electricity to charge every vehicle on the road, hydrogen is the most abundant element on earth, and when combusted produces just one thing... water. Not only this, but theres no need for the extremely polluting manufacture of the long life, highly polluting, batteries. Welcome to the future, say hello to hydrogen." 'Oh the humanity!' There's many, many good reasons why we don't use hydrogen as fuel. The fact that it can only be transported in a gaseous state is one of them. | |||
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"An electric car battery developed by UK start-up Nyobolt has successfully charged from 10% to 80% in four minutes and 37 seconds in its first live demonstration. Looks like this is the way we will be heading for sure." Doing the sums on a typical large EV battery of 40kWh that means you have to deliver 70% of that (28kWh) in 4 mins or around 0.07 hour … .. 385kW for 4 minutes. Personally I would not want to be standing anywhere near that. That is the kind of industrial facility that normally has a danger sign and a strong fence or heavy steel cupboard around it. | |||
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"An electric car battery developed by UK start-up Nyobolt has successfully charged from 10% to 80% in four minutes and 37 seconds in its first live demonstration. Looks like this is the way we will be heading for sure. Doing the sums on a typical large EV battery of 40kWh that means you have to deliver 70% of that (28kWh) in 4 mins or around 0.07 hour … .. 385kW for 4 minutes. Personally I would not want to be standing anywhere near that. That is the kind of industrial facility that normally has a danger sign and a strong fence or heavy steel cupboard around it. " More bullshit from someone making themselves look stupid. Current EV chargers can already charge at 350kwh. Mine has a capacity of 92kw and can dump charge so your ‘large’ EV battery is rubbish. It will charge 80% in 20 mins. I’d be more worried standing next to a cheap microwave than a charge point. You maybe just too old to embrace change. | |||
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"An electric car battery developed by UK start-up Nyobolt has successfully charged from 10% to 80% in four minutes and 37 seconds in its first live demonstration. Looks like this is the way we will be heading for sure. It’s the way everyone is getting pushed. Batteries for electric cars are about the dirtiest item on the planet to make and harmful to the environment when disposed of, and can’t be recycled. You’ll probably have to pay to dispose of an EV when it’s much more than 7 years old, perhaps earlier. Lithium and cobalt prices will skyrocket so car prices will too. Most electric is generated by burning fossil fuels so all the co2 figures for an EV are imaginary All so one man can take the super rich into space and the greenies are loving it. I just don’t get why intelligent people can’t, or won’t, see the big picture. The only reason I can think of is there’s a conspiracy to do away with personal travel " What a load of absolute bullshit. EV batteries are at least 95% recyclable. There are at least 8 EV battery recycling companies in the UK. Used EV batteries are highly sought after to be used as stationary storage solutions and for recycling for use in other EVs. | |||
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"An electric car battery developed by UK start-up Nyobolt has successfully charged from 10% to 80% in four minutes and 37 seconds in its first live demonstration. Looks like this is the way we will be heading for sure. Doing the sums on a typical large EV battery of 40kWh that means you have to deliver 70% of that (28kWh) in 4 mins or around 0.07 hour … .. 385kW for 4 minutes. Personally I would not want to be standing anywhere near that. That is the kind of industrial facility that normally has a danger sign and a strong fence or heavy steel cupboard around it. More bullshit from someone making themselves look stupid. Current EV chargers can already charge at 350kwh. Mine has a capacity of 92kw and can dump charge so your ‘large’ EV battery is rubbish. It will charge 80% in 20 mins. I’d be more worried standing next to a cheap microwave than a charge point. You maybe just too old to embrace change. " Well said. Someone with a some common sense and a thinking brain at last. | |||
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"In our household we have 2 ev's 1 new and another second hand, and I have to say my personal experience versus the negative statistics posted online don't compare in the slightest. Ev's aren't the monsters here, oil companies pay for bad advertising to save there failing industry. " . The oil companies have a vested interest in keeping ICE vehicles for as long as possible. | |||
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"An electric car battery developed by UK start-up Nyobolt has successfully charged from 10% to 80% in four minutes and 37 seconds in its first live demonstration. Looks like this is the way we will be heading for sure. Doing the sums on a typical large EV battery of 40kWh that means you have to deliver 70% of that (28kWh) in 4 mins or around 0.07 hour … .. 385kW for 4 minutes. Personally I would not want to be standing anywhere near that. That is the kind of industrial facility that normally has a danger sign and a strong fence or heavy steel cupboard around it. More bullshit from someone making themselves look stupid. Current EV chargers can already charge at 350kwh. Mine has a capacity of 92kw and can dump charge so your ‘large’ EV battery is rubbish. It will charge 80% in 20 mins. I’d be more worried standing next to a cheap microwave than a charge point. You maybe just too old to embrace change. " . I wonder if he’s ok standing next to a tank full of petrol? | |||
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"People need to educate them self's. New technology coming out every day .embrace change .personally I would definitely buy a EV over petrol .car " But EV haters don’t educate themselves. They believe the lies and misinformation they read without bothering to do any actual quality research. Pathetic. | |||
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"My EV does 0-60 in 3 seconds and is charged on green energy only. There are some really dumb comments on here. Luxury car values plummet inregardless. Mining minerals is nothing compared to mining metals for engines but let’s ignore that to suit the negative haters. Tax on fuel is horrendous. My EV costs a third to run compared to a petrol car. 4p per mile versus 16p for diesel I think. EV’s should have been launched as a new vehicle method of propulsion not an environmental cool option. Hydrogen, kitchen food scraps or whatever, there will always be a next big idea to power cars. So embrace it and stop looking like dicks fighting over your inability to embrace tech or change I hated the idea of electric until I got one!! Now I grin like a cunt when ever I hit the pedal!! " This is the thing. You don’t realise how amazing they are until you own one. As well as that awesome power, I’m guessing that, like me, you don’t have to scrape ice off the windows, or sit in a freezing cold car waiting for the engine to warm up. You warm the cabin up while you’re in the house, right? Then there’s the dirt cheap servicing that’s done every couple of years. No oil changes, timing belts, etc. Brake pads that last for 100k miles due to regenerative braking. There’s a lot more, but EV haters will always hate. | |||
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" This is the thing. You don’t realise how amazing they are until you own one. As well as that awesome power, I’m guessing that, like me," I followed one out of a motorway service station on my motorcycle and I was surprised by their rate of acceleration. It was no match for the motorcycle on the motorway itself, though. | |||
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"OMG, I'm reading in the bristol post about changes to vehicle exist duty for new cars at the top of the range. If you buy a big posh car like a Range Rover or whatever, your vehicle tax in the first is now between £2,500 and £5,000!
I think the annual tax on my fossil fuel engine on 2 wheels is about £100."I believe the maximum first year rate is nearly £6k when you include the luxury car tax. Yours is relatively cheap because it has considerably lower emissions. | |||
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" This is the thing. You don’t realise how amazing they are until you own one. As well as that awesome power, I’m guessing that, like me, I followed one out of a motorway service station on my motorcycle and I was surprised by their rate of acceleration. It was no match for the motorcycle on the motorway itself, though. " The model S Plaid does 0-60 in 1.98 seconds and 200mph. I’ve no idea how that compares with a motorbike. The only motorbike I’ve ever owned was a Yamaha RD250 2 stroke but that was a bit before your time. You could ride up to 250cc without passing a motorbike test. I loved it though. | |||
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"An electric car battery developed by UK start-up Nyobolt has successfully charged from 10% to 80% in four minutes and 37 seconds in its first live demonstration. Looks like this is the way we will be heading for sure. It’s the way everyone is getting pushed. Batteries for electric cars are about the dirtiest item on the planet to make and harmful to the environment when disposed of, and can’t be recycled. You’ll probably have to pay to dispose of an EV when it’s much more than 7 years old, perhaps earlier. Lithium and cobalt prices will skyrocket so car prices will too. Most electric is generated by burning fossil fuels so all the co2 figures for an EV are imaginary All so one man can take the super rich into space and the greenies are loving it. I just don’t get why intelligent people can’t, or won’t, see the big picture. The only reason I can think of is there’s a conspiracy to do away with personal travel " Oooo too good not to comment ... All negative... Recycling as stated Cost to replace batteries Purchase price Damage to environment mining the resources to make them. Not enough resources to make them for everyone. Infrastructure too many issues to mention here... Eat tyres (weight tyre wear issue) Weight mainly SUV versions for current multi stories. Drive range Cost to fast charge Fire!! I'm sure there are others. | |||
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"..The only motorbike I’ve ever owned was a Yamaha RD250 2 stroke but that was a bit before your time. You could ride up to 250cc without passing a motorbike test. I loved it though..." Those 70s-80s bikes in good condition fetch silly money now. I think EV scooters and cycles for commuting is the way for congested cities. EV cars are a hell of a gamble long term. | |||
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"..The only motorbike I’ve ever owned was a Yamaha RD250 2 stroke but that was a bit before your time. You could ride up to 250cc without passing a motorbike test. I loved it though... " My boyfriend had an RD250 back in the early 80s | |||
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"Trust me, if fossil fuel ran out on Friday the fuel companies would have an alternative in the pumps on Saturday." Sorry, but I don’t trust you. | |||
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"Electric cars are on their way out... thankfully they've now started actively marketing the future. The future is hydrogen. There's no way we can produce enough electricity to charge every vehicle on the road, hydrogen is the most abundant element on earth, and when combusted produces just one thing... water. Not only this, but theres no need for the extremely polluting manufacture of the long life, highly polluting, batteries. Welcome to the future, say hello to hydrogen." Gawd! Hydrogen is not a fuel, it’s a battery. Just saying it’s the most abundant element as though that’s the answer shows your lack of understanding of how it’s used, stored, produced and delivered. Educate yourself. | |||
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"Electric cars are on their way out... thankfully they've now started actively marketing the future. The future is hydrogen. There's no way we can produce enough electricity to charge every vehicle on the road, hydrogen is the most abundant element on earth, and when combusted produces just one thing... water. Not only this, but theres no need for the extremely polluting manufacture of the long life, highly polluting, batteries. Welcome to the future, say hello to hydrogen. 'Oh the humanity!' There's many, many good reasons why we don't use hydrogen as fuel. The fact that it can only be transported in a gaseous state is one of them."  | |||
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"An electric car battery developed by UK start-up Nyobolt has successfully charged from 10% to 80% in four minutes and 37 seconds in its first live demonstration. Looks like this is the way we will be heading for sure. And it only costs £100,000 each. I expect." I’ve seen em £3.95 in Poundland a contradiction I know but seems worth it | |||
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"my diesel car can go 700 miles on a full tank, I used to have an old citroen zx estate diesel (same engine as the peugeot) and I managed 1000 miles on a tank of fuel. electrics cars are not ready for the time being." Totally agree, the majority are just not ready for EVs & most probably have no interest in getting one Having said that a good friend of mine is on his second EV. First was an MG4 which he hated ( mainly due to software issues & bad quality parts ) He’s now got a KIA EV6. Absolutely fantastic to drive but even he says, If he didn’t have a driveway no way would he rely on public chargers, expensive, half the time they not working ( here on Isle of Wight anyway ) & he only averages 100-150 miles every 2 weeks so it suits him Then you look at the average range. His current EV6, official figures around 302 miles, real world about 265-270 Now it’s cold that drops to about 230-235 roughly Put the heater on & the computer says it will lose another 30 miles Again suits him as he only drives daily here on island. If he was driving constantly on mainland he would opt for petrol/diesel/hybrid & then there’s the cost, great if you can afford them but most especially the way things are now can’t Some say EVs are the future, I’m not personally convinced but if they are we are decades off being ready for the majority to be in them I recently got a brand new Ford Kuga hybrid ( not the plug in one ) Obviously not everyone’s cup of tea but it’s impressed me with the figures It has a 2.4, 4 cylinder engine & the car isn’t light. I’m just coming up to 900 miles & so far it’s averaged 46.8 mpg and 90% of my driving is around town, 20-30 mph Again my friends KIA EV is lovely to look at ( subjective I know ) great to drive but won’t suit the majority especially as again he says, if you can’t have a private charger ( which millions of people can’t ) then he wouldn’t bother | |||
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"Electric cars are on their way out... thankfully they've now started actively marketing the future. The future is hydrogen. There's no way we can produce enough electricity to charge every vehicle on the road, hydrogen is the most abundant element on earth, and when combusted produces just one thing... water. Not only this, but theres no need for the extremely polluting manufacture of the long life, highly polluting, batteries. Welcome to the future, say hello to hydrogen. Gawd! Hydrogen is not a fuel, it’s a battery. Just saying it’s the most abundant element as though that’s the answer shows your lack of understanding of how it’s used, stored, produced and delivered. Educate yourself. " I'm not entirely understanding your calling hydrogen a battery but the rest certainly. Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe, however hydrogen on earth is mostly found in combination with oxygen as water and as such is not freely accessible. To release the hydrogen you need to break the strong molecular/covalent bonds that hold the atoms together and that requires a lot of usually electrical energy input to achieve. I don't know how the amount to do that compared with the amount to give a similar mileage from an electric car compare. So while the idea of hydrogen powered cars sounds perfect, there is a drawback otherwise everyone would be making them en masse | |||
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"What I mean is that hydrogen is not like petroleum in that you just burn it after refining. To create useable hydrogen requires taking the obvious source of water and splitting it which requires energy (often from fossil fuels), then as it’s so light it has to be very compressed to be useful in a vehicle. What you end up with is in effect a battery holding the energy used to create it. As it’s the lightest element it continually tries to escape from any containment so there are issues there with tank seals, piping and so on. Then of course there’s the issue of distribution and the practicalities of fuelling the vehicles at a filling station. There’s a reason we don’t have Hydrogen cars/stations all over the country and are very unlikely ever to do so. " I understand where you were coming from | |||
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"Further to my last, when we all get our un green cars wait for the tax on them to hit us" Good..It's just stunning to me how people think that the planet flooding and burning is absolutely nothing to do with them and they should just be able to continue as normal. Normal isn't normal anymore. | |||
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"An electric car battery developed by UK start-up Nyobolt has successfully charged from 10% to 80% in four minutes and 37 seconds in its first live demonstration. Looks like this is the way we will be heading for sure." I see this stuff all the time, as an engineer remember if you want to charge a battert 10 times quicker then youve got to provide 10 times the energy - that means ten times the current or upping the voltage in combination with some current At a simple level, energy = danger, when things go wrong it'll REALLY go wrong. Plus you think youve got energy supply problems now, you wait till all these chargers want ten times the power. Great i can charge my car in 5 minutes but every charger needs its own substation  | |||
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" The model S Plaid does 0-60 in 1.98 seconds and 200mph. I’ve no idea how that compares with a motorbike. " 0-60 in 2.3 sec and red lines at 180 - but mine certainly isn't the fastest road bike you can buy | |||
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" The model S Plaid does 0-60 in 1.98 seconds and 200mph. I’ve no idea how that compares with a motorbike. All these figures are irrelevant to be fair, where are you ever likely to be to actually do those things. As long as a vehicle can easily do 70mph (80 on the M6 toll) that's as fast as you're legally allowed to go in this country. Who cares if it takes a few seconds more to get to that speed. 0-60 in 2.3 sec and red lines at 180 - but mine certainly isn't the fastest road bike you can buy" | |||
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" The model S Plaid does 0-60 in 1.98 seconds and 200mph. I’ve no idea how that compares with a motorbike. All these figures are irrelevant to be fair, where are you ever likely to be to actually do those things. " I'll plead the fifth amendment, thank you | |||
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" The model S Plaid does 0-60 in 1.98 seconds and 200mph. I’ve no idea how that compares with a motorbike. All these figures are irrelevant to be fair, where are you ever likely to be to actually do those things. I'll plead the fifth amendment, thank you " If you're Joe Bidens favourite son, you can film yourself doing 172 on the road to Vegas whilst on crack. And legit get away with it, what a pornstar rebel | |||
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"Only works if you have means of charging. Live in a flat with no off-street parking and your fucked." | |||
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"Electric cars - scam of the century..." Nah..brexit was | |||
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"Electric cars - scam of the century... Yep, it’s like the Betamax of the video world, EV’s are a dead end. we have fantastic internal combustion engines, let’s develop these further with alternative fuels and filtering systems ." But the beta max was the better product! | |||
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"my diesel car can go 700 miles on a full tank, I used to have an old citroen zx estate diesel (same engine as the peugeot) and I managed 1000 miles on a tank of fuel. electrics cars are not ready for the time being." Are you telling me you drove 1000 mile non stop? | |||
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"My EV does 0-60 in 3 seconds and is charged on green energy only. There are some really dumb comments on here. Luxury car values plummet inregardless. Mining minerals is nothing compared to mining metals for engines but let’s ignore that to suit the negative haters. Tax on fuel is horrendous. My EV costs a third to run compared to a petrol car. 4p per mile versus 16p for diesel I think. EV’s should have been launched as a new vehicle method of propulsion not an environmental cool option. Hydrogen, kitchen food scraps or whatever, there will always be a next big idea to power cars. So embrace it and stop looking like dicks fighting over your inability to embrace tech or change I hated the idea of electric until I got one!! Now I grin like a cunt when ever I hit the pedal!! " And just how often do you go from 0 -60 in one move? If you can afford to buy a car that does that - and I suspect it is a company car - well done you. I'll stick to my Euro 6 compliant diesel and do 600 miles to a tank full. That equates to about 2 minutes fill up time a week. | |||
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"Electric cars - scam of the century... Yep, it’s like the Betamax of the video world, EV’s are a dead end. we have fantastic internal combustion engines, let’s develop these further with alternative fuels and filtering systems . But the beta max was the better product! " Actually the Philip's 2000 system was best. You could record on both sides of the tape and freeze frame totally crisp pic at any time. VHS was a triumph of marketing over engineering. Then you hired videos and all you could get was VHS which killed everything else off. | |||
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