FabGuys.com forum: Low Testosterone

By (user no longer on site) OP
49 weeks ago

Low Testosterone causes a number of things including Loss of Erection, Erectile Dysfunction, loss of energy and most importantly Low Bone Density causing Osteoporosis.

Below is a long read, but hopefully it helps anyone who is in the same situation as myself with Low Testosterone.

If you’re feeling

sluggish low energy

brain fog

low sex drive

body shape change

Lesser erections (softer, less frequent)

Then get your testosterone checked, it’s something vital in your body that tends to reduce with age.

There’s a normal range something like 10-30 nmol/L, in men of all ages mine was at 9!

I was put on TRT and the difference was almost immediate, and still carries on being hugely beneficial.

There’s risks after 50 and you need to be monitored regularly, with blood tests and consultation. The ideal level range over 50 in age is low to high teens, not in the 20’s+.

If you read the health benefits of normal testosterone, there are many, but let’s say I can everything better and harder than before.

I was tested and shown to be 9nmol/L, my doctor said this was within normal range, I then fractured my ankle and was seen by a specialist, I mentioned my low testosterone to him and he suspected I also had Low Bone Density.

He carried out further tests and confirmed I was Low on Testosterone and Low Bone Density was the cause of my ankle fracture.

His report was sent to my GP and I am now on TRT (Testosterone Replacement for life via NHS.

NOTE; This is a nhs treatment;

I have been on Testosterone Replacement for over 4 years now, first two years on Testogel and once dosage was fixed out things worked well, I was on two sachets a day which are rubbed into your shoulders.

I changed over to testosterone undecanoate (Nebido®) 1000mg /4ML injection every 8 weeks and this works just as well.

I average 25nmol/L although peak is slightly higher and Trough slightly lower.

My daily morning erections have returned and can achieve an erection as and when required, often when not required too.

So why was I placed on TRT, Testosterone Replacement

I suffered Erectile Dysfunction for 3 years, I was unable to achieve or maintain erections and I also have an effeminate shaped body

my other symptoms included;

• fatigue

• lethargy

• depression

• anxiety

• irritability

• low libido

• erectile dysfunction

• reduced exercise tolerance and strength

• excessive sweating and night sweats

• poor concentration or memory

• needing to shave less often (my legs, arms and face were smooth only needed to shave once a week or less.

My doctor and specialist eventually discovered this was due to Low Testosterone and I am now on Testosterone replacement for life.

My overall well being has increased rapidly, my fitness, strength and im even getting noticeable muscles

My Erections have also returned big time, powerful strong rock solid erections every morning and as and when performance is required, often unexpected moments too such as standing in a Tesco check out queue

Feel free to ask me anything regarding TRT and I will try and give a direct answer of my experience

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

Wow, what an informative and interesting read, I am definitely going to seek advice from my doctor now, thank you op for posting this.

Mike

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By *iguy1407Man
49 weeks ago

STANFORD-LE-HOPE

Thanks for the informative and helpful post

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By (user no longer on site) OP
49 weeks ago

"Wow, what an informative and interesting read, I am definitely going to seek advice from my doctor now, thank you op for posting this.

Mike"

Mike, Sometimes it's best to see a specialist first, they will diagnose, recommend and also write a letter to your GP.

Realistically GP,s are fairly clueless in low Testosterone and Testosterone Replacement sadly.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
49 weeks ago

"Thanks for the informative and helpful post

You are very welcome, TRT Testosterone replacement has given me a new look on life, I hope it is the same for others

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By *bonybucksMan
49 weeks ago

High Wycombe

Sounds like what I’m suffering from!!

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By *onnycumslowlyMan
49 weeks ago

Daventry

But be warned..by increasing testosterone, can be a cause of prostate cancer. This needs testosterone to develop. One of the standard prostate cancer treatments is hormone therapy, designed to starve the cancer of testosterone and so deduce cancer .

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

"But be warned..by increasing testosterone, can be a cause of prostate cancer. This needs testosterone to develop. One of the standard prostate cancer treatments is hormone therapy, designed to starve the cancer of testosterone and so deduce cancer ."

Nope, sorry, this is bullshit. There are multiple studies that have shown that a high level of testosterone does not cause prostate cancer.

In any case, TRT is designed to restore your testosterone to normal levels, not send it sky high.

You're correct about hormone therapy starving prostate cancer of testosterone but that doesn't mean that testosterone actually causes the cancer in the first place.

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By *andomguy321Man
49 weeks ago

reading

Very informative info - Especially to those of us getting on in age

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By *terag5581Man
49 weeks ago

Huddersfield

Can you ask for your testosterone level to be checked as a matter of course without presenting any obvious concerns

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

"Can you ask for your testosterone level to be checked as a matter of course without presenting any obvious concerns"

Highly unlikely on the NHS without symptoms. Private tests are available but aren't terribly cheap.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
49 weeks ago

Nope, sorry, this is bullshit. There are multiple studies that have shown that a high level of testosterone does not cause prostate cancer.

In any case, TRT is designed to restore your testosterone to normal levels, not send it sky high.

You're correct about hormone therapy starving prostate cancer of testosterone but that doesn't mean that testosterone actually causes the cancer in the first place."

2nd answer is correct, TRT only raises your Testosterone to natural levels.

Infection TRT is safer because you get regular blood tests which include testing your PSA, and for those that do not know, your psa is tested to check your prostate

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

I’d love to be in the checkout queue at Tesco when you get a hardon. ??

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By (user no longer on site) OP
49 weeks ago

"Very informative info - Especially to those of us getting on in age "

Yes the majority of male's have a reduction in Testosterone production from around age 46 onwards, often not drastic enough for problems but in some cases such as myself erectile dysfunction and osteoporosis.

Both reversed once on replacement treatment

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

Does it make your willy bigger? Asking for a friend

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

"Does it make your willy bigger? Asking for a friend"

Harder maybe, if you're experiencing ED, but bigger? Nope

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

I'd better keep the magnifying glass handy then

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

Testosterone does not cause prostate cancer. If you already have prostate cancer then starting TRT can increase the rate the cancer grows, that is why regular blood work is vital.

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By *ossie1Man
49 weeks ago

Heathrow

"Wow, what an informative and interesting read, I am definitely going to seek advice from my doctor now, thank you op for posting this.

Mike

Mike, Sometimes it's best to see a specialist first, they will diagnose, recommend and also write a letter to your GP.

Realistically GP,s are fairly clueless in low Testosterone and Testosterone Replacement sadly."

What do I google for a specialist?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
49 weeks ago

"Wow, what an informative and interesting read, I am definitely going to seek advice from my doctor now, thank you op for posting this.

Mike

Mike, Sometimes it's best to see a specialist first, they will diagnose, recommend and also write a letter to your GP.

Realistically GP,s are fairly clueless in low Testosterone and Testosterone Replacement sadly.

What do I google for a specialist?"

Look for a Spire or Bupa hospital in your area

Then look up the names of Consultant Urologist with similar qualifications and that specialised in -

BSc, MBBS, PhD, FRCS (Urol)

Specialises in

Erectile dysfunction

Peyronie's disease

Male cancers (testis, penis and scrotal)

Microsurgical vasectomy reversal

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By (user no longer on site)
49 weeks ago

"Wow, what an informative and interesting read, I am definitely going to seek advice from my doctor now, thank you op for posting this.

Mike

Mike, Sometimes it's best to see a specialist first, they will diagnose, recommend and also write a letter to your GP.

Realistically GP,s are fairly clueless in low Testosterone and Testosterone Replacement sadly.

What do I google for a specialist?"

I used a private clinic called The Leger Clinic and had excellent service. Once diagnosed they offer a subscription service (for ongoing private prescriptions, analysing and advising on test results, tweaking treatment etc) which I paid for annually but they also wrote to my GP as well. As soon as my GP agreed to bring me under the NHS they refunded the remainder of my subscription.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
49 weeks ago

"Wow, what an informative and interesting read, I am definitely going to seek advice from my doctor now, thank you op for posting this.

Mike

Mike, Sometimes it's best to see a specialist first, they will diagnose, recommend and also write a letter to your GP.

Realistically GP,s are fairly clueless in low Testosterone and Testosterone Replacement sadly.

What do I google for a specialist?

Yes, I agree that it's far better to go private first and then transfer over to the NHS

This is a far quicker way of getting treatment started

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By *mandaWhenDressedMan
49 weeks ago

around

Great thread. These things need to be out there for us guys.

Now how do I get to see a doctor?

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By *b20Man
49 weeks ago

Glasgow

"Low Testosterone causes a number of things including Loss of Erection, Erectile Dysfunction, loss of energy and most importantly Low Bone Density causing Osteoporosis.

Below is a long read, but hopefully it helps anyone who is in the same situation as myself with Low Testosterone.

If you’re feeling

sluggish low energy

brain fog

low sex drive

body shape change

Lesser erections (softer, less frequent)

Then get your testosterone checked, it’s something vital in your body that tends to reduce with age.

There’s a normal range something like 10-30 nmol/L, in men of all ages mine was at 9!

I was put on TRT and the difference was almost immediate, and still carries on being hugely beneficial.

There’s risks after 50 and you need to be monitored regularly, with blood tests and consultation. The ideal level range over 50 in age is low to high teens, not in the 20’s+.

If you read the health benefits of normal testosterone, there are many, but let’s say I can everything better and harder than before.

He carried out further tests and confirmed I was Low on Testosterone and Low Bone Density was the cause of my ankle fracture.

His report was sent to my GP and I am now on TRT (Testosterone Replacement for life via NHS.

NOTE; This is a nhs treatment;

I changed over to testosterone undecanoate (Nebido®) 1000mg /4ML injection every 8 weeks and this works just as well.

I average 25nmol/L although peak is slightly higher and Trough slightly lower.

My daily morning erections have returned and can achieve an erection as and when required, often when not required too.

So why was I placed on TRT, Testosterone Replacement

I suffered Erectile Dysfunction for 3 years, I was unable to achieve or maintain erections and I also have an effeminate shaped body

my other symptoms included;

• fatigue

• lethargy

• depression

• anxiety

• irritability

• low libido

• erectile dysfunction

• reduced exercise tolerance and strength

• excessive sweating and night sweats

• poor concentration or memory

• needing to shave less often (my legs, arms and face were smooth only needed to shave once a week or less.

My doctor and specialist eventually discovered this was due to Low Testosterone and I am now on Testosterone replacement for life.

My overall well being has increased rapidly, my fitness, strength and im even getting noticeable muscles

Feel free to ask me anything regarding TRT and I will try and give a direct answer of my experience"

Very interesting read, thanks for posting

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By *tan1252Man
49 weeks ago

Sudbury

Nope, sorry, this is bullshit. There are multiple studies that have shown that a high level of testosterone does not cause prostate cancer.

In any case, TRT is designed to restore your testosterone to normal levels, not send it sky high.

You're correct about hormone therapy starving prostate cancer of testosterone but that doesn't mean that testosterone actually causes the cancer in the first place.

2nd answer is correct, TRT only raises your Testosterone to natural levels.

Infection TRT is safer because you get regular blood tests which include testing your PSA, and for those that do not know, your psa is tested to check your prostate

The previous 2 responders are correct; TRT does not cause prostate cancer,

The researcher is conclusive. There have been multiple papers published on this in The Journal of Urology over the last 20 years.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
46 weeks ago

TRT Testosterone replacement is monitored regularly by your GP

Ensuring all bloods are correct, dosage is correct and your PSA is also tested

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By *LDERCHUBLOVERMan
46 weeks ago

HULL

From reading about low testosterone on the forums here i have found that i have a fair few of the symptoms described and have for many years!

Rang doctors to ask for blood tests and obviously had to tell the receptionist all the details which i find wrong! But i managed to get a call back from a doctor who is sending me for blood tests next week,

I would have never thought of testosterone being an issue if it wasnt for you guys here

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By (user no longer on site) OP
46 weeks ago

"From reading about low testosterone on the forums here i have found that i have a fair few of the symptoms described and have for many years!

I would have never thought of testosterone being an issue if it wasnt for you guys here"

At age 39, you are still young for having low Testosterone although it could be a long standing issue.

Testosterone normally drops off from around age 45 and upwards but there could be a long term issue that effects your glands and hormones

Let us know your results and ask for - total Testosterone & also free Testosterone

Your free Testosterone is what feeds your bones and allows them to grow.

Many people may have average total Testosterone but extremely low "Free Testosterone" and this causes Osteoporosis long term.

Results should be in nmol/L

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By *lexieMan
46 weeks ago

Just north of Southampton

Interesting.. but trying to see my GP is like trying to hold the hand of god!

Is there a natural food or supliment to boost or enhance testosterone levels? Or is that in the realm of snake oil territory?

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By (user no longer on site)
46 weeks ago

"From reading about low testosterone on the forums here i have found that i have a fair few of the symptoms described and have for many years!

I would have never thought of testosterone being an issue if it wasnt for you guys here

At age 39, you are still young for having low Testosterone although it could be a long standing issue.

Testosterone normally drops off from around age 45 and upwards but there could be a long term issue that effects your glands and hormones

Let us know your results and ask for - total Testosterone & also free Testosterone

Your free Testosterone is what feeds your bones and allows them to grow.

Many people may have average total Testosterone but extremely low "Free Testosterone" and this causes Osteoporosis long term.

Results should be in nmol/L"

Have you had a change in sexual interests?

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By *obbydoMan
46 weeks ago

Costa Blanca Spain..

Thank you for your very informative post.

I have many of the symptoms that you describe and testosterone replacement is something I've been thinking about for a while.

But because I've had a mild heart attack and I have a stent I've been a bit (a lot really) scared of it.

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By *londebiguyMan
46 weeks ago

near Southport

Im interested.

No actual issues though generally

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By *ngel50TV/TS
3 weeks ago

Kinross

"Thank you for your very informative post.

I have many of the symptoms that you describe and testosterone replacement is something I've been thinking about for a while.

But because I've had a mild heart attack and I have a stent I've been a bit (a lot really) scared of it."

You are very welcome, feel free to message or ask direct

There is possibility of increasing chance of heart attack or stroke when on TRT and although minimal chances the doctor still has to warn you of this.

Testosterone replacement also reduce your chances of having family so they advise you to complete your family first or have sperms frozen

But the Benefits fully outweigh the possible side effects

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By *eorge140Man
3 weeks ago

St2

I've had treatment for prostate cancer, six months hormone therapy and radio therapy, my testosterone level is 0.4.

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By *reddie12345Man
3 weeks ago

Bridgend

Thanks for the info!

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By *ngel50TV/TS
3 weeks ago

Kinross

"I've had treatment for prostate cancer, six months hormone therapy and radio therapy, my testosterone level is 0.4."

I'm sorry, you must feel very low, but hopefully the treatment saved your life

Your pituitary FSH and LH levels will be zero

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By *ngel50TV/TS
3 weeks ago

Kinross

Marc12xxx read this thread completely

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By (user no longer on site)
3 weeks ago

"Low Testosterone causes a number of things including Loss of Erection, Erectile Dysfunction, loss of energy and most importantly Low Bone Density causing Osteoporosis.

Below is a long read, but hopefully it helps anyone who is in the same situation as myself with Low Testosterone.

If you’re feeling

sluggish low energy

brain fog

low sex drive

body shape change

Lesser erections (softer, less frequent)

Then get your testosterone checked, it’s something vital in your body that tends to reduce with age.

There’s a normal range something like 10-30 nmol/L, in men of all ages mine was at 9!

I was put on TRT and the difference was almost immediate, and still carries on being hugely beneficial.

There’s risks after 50 and you need to be monitored regularly, with blood tests and consultation. The ideal level range over 50 in age is low to high teens, not in the 20’s+.

If you read the health benefits of normal testosterone, there are many, but let’s say I can everything better and harder than before.

He carried out further tests and confirmed I was Low on Testosterone and Low Bone Density was the cause of my ankle fracture.

His report was sent to my GP and I am now on TRT (Testosterone Replacement for life via NHS.

NOTE; This is a nhs treatment;

I changed over to testosterone undecanoate (Nebido®) 1000mg /4ML injection every 8 weeks and this works just as well.

I average 25nmol/L although peak is slightly higher and Trough slightly lower.

My daily morning erections have returned and can achieve an erection as and when required, often when not required too.

So why was I placed on TRT, Testosterone Replacement

I suffered Erectile Dysfunction for 3 years, I was unable to achieve or maintain erections and I also have an effeminate shaped body

my other symptoms included;

• fatigue

• lethargy

• depression

• anxiety

• irritability

• low libido

• erectile dysfunction

• reduced exercise tolerance and strength

• excessive sweating and night sweats

• poor concentration or memory

• needing to shave less often (my legs, arms and face were smooth only needed to shave once a week or less.

My doctor and specialist eventually discovered this was due to Low Testosterone and I am now on Testosterone replacement for life.

My overall well being has increased rapidly, my fitness, strength and im even getting noticeable muscles

Feel free to ask me anything regarding TRT and I will try and give a direct answer of my experience"

Thank you for this, will seek help myself and see my doctor, had quite a few symptoms you mentioned including ED sluggish etc

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By *eorge140Man
3 weeks ago

St2

Thank you, no I'm not feeling low at all, I go my local put a few times a week and my family around me. I'm waiting for my latest blood results. I just get on with life. I go for regular walks, walked one hundred miles in the last three months, feeling very well.

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By *iger79Man
3 weeks ago

ipswich

Your pituitary FSH and LH levels will be zero "

No, with low testosterone the FSH and LH go very high, because they're trying to trigger the testes into making testosterone.

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By *ngel50TV/TS
3 weeks ago

Kinross

Your pituitary FSH and LH levels will be zero

No, with low testosterone the FSH and LH go very high, because they're trying to trigger the testes into making testosterone."

With Testosterone replacement they both go to zero as they recognise ample testosterone from another source and trigger the testicles into shutting down

Both my FSH and LH are close to zero

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By *iger79Man
3 weeks ago

ipswich

With Testosterone replacement they both go to zero as they recognise ample testosterone from another source and trigger the testicles into shutting down

Both my FSH and LH are close to zero"

But the guy you replied too wasn't on TRT - he said his testosterone was 0.4

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By *otonFellaMan
3 weeks ago

Southampton

Following. Thank you to the original poster for this thread.

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By *inkyfuckerukMan
3 weeks ago

Worcester

Get a blood test see the free testesterone and assorted hokrnes. You can find the right tests. The NHS is tricky as the line in which the testosterone level becomes a "medical" issue is quite harsh. Men have a slow decline. Men who naturally have higher testosterone over their life tend to have better outcomes. The menapause is very sudden so it's better supported. The roid rage stigma (mainly caused by a steroid called trenabol) has created a fear of testesterone. But I would say the nhs is too conservative In it's prescribing trt. Private is obviously financially driven to diagnose and prescribe. There are more options now privately that are less of a rip off but it's tricky. I take my own views, and where I like my testerone level, estrogen and cock and ball health quite seriously. I started trt privately and really was happily surprised by the benefits around it like collagen synthesis, which I hadn't known was benefit. But had a bad back and now don't (it's not perfect but seriously improved) but I started abroad. Coming back to the UK my doc was not impressed with any of it and refused to prescribe. So I had to choose private or not. But I think everyones health is there's so I don't advise or have the qualifications to do so. But genuinely if you have signs of low libido with finding putting on muscle harder. Losing weight isn't as easy as it used to be.. they are all signs your testerone is decreasing. For me trt was life changing, I get it wrong sometimes but the worst side effect of when I do is a few back spots. But my libido is insane but manageable, HGC has genuinly grown my cock size and I'm fitter than I have been in years. Not everyone gets the right doctor or reacts as well as others so do your research. For me it's been very positive and I wish I had taken it sooner. But hindsight is a f&&ker

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By *inkyfuckerukMan
3 weeks ago

Worcester

I have thick thumbs and rubbish spelling lol

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By *inkyexileMan
3 weeks ago

Near Scarborough

I was on testosterone for a while but don’t take it now, long story. I was getting it on the nhs from my gp but a urologist had to say to prescribe it.

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By *ngel50TV/TS
3 weeks ago

Kinross

"I was on testosterone for a while but don’t take it now, long story. I was getting it on the nhs from my gp but a urologist had to say to prescribe it.

Normally it's a lifetime decision not a start and stop

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By *ld 68yo experimentingMan
3 weeks ago

Doncaster

Yup had those doctor even had me

assessed by a Dementia nurse and I only just passed. Now 2 squirys of a testosterone gel keeps me going.

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By *ld 68yo experimentingMan
3 weeks ago

Doncaster

No it does not in fact it will make your testies smaller

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By *ngel50TV/TS
3 weeks ago

Kinross

Can your comments be clearer please

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By *endy OneMan
3 weeks ago

Ballymahon

I’ve been on Testogel for 2 years. At a fairly low dose. I cannot say that it has made any difference whatsoever to my libido, erections, musculature or anything else. I was prescribed it by a consultant endocrinologist. My GP says it is a waste of money. I’m inclined to agree with him. That said, having read so many positive reviews here I will ask my endocrinologist to run more tests and consider increasing the dose. My levels were not actually low but at the lower end of normal.

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By *endy OneMan
3 weeks ago

Ballymahon

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By *inkyfuckerukMan
3 weeks ago

Worcester

"No it does not in fact it will make your testies smaller "
if you don't take HCG it can hence the need to do your research

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By *inkyfuckerukMan
3 weeks ago

Worcester

"I’ve been on Testogel for 2 years. At a fairly low dose. I cannot say that it has made any difference whatsoever to my libido, erections, musculature or anything else. I was prescribed it by a consultant endocrinologist. My GP says it is a waste of money. I’m inclined to agree with him. That said, having read so many positive reviews here I will ask my endocrinologist to run more tests and consider increasing the dose. My levels were not actually low but at the lower end of normal. "
I would ask for an intramuscular option before giving as skin injection is wildly ineffective or effective depending skin condition, sebum amount, hydration ... It's not good and only should be used if you are terrified of needles

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By *esxxx5Man
3 weeks ago

Wokingham

Thank you

I’ll be investigating

Hope I don’t need to fracture or break a bone to get it !

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By *ocktoplaywithMan
3 weeks ago

Derby

I seem to have all the same symptoms the OP describes apart from the shaving which I have to do more frequently now than a few years ago.

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By *endy OneMan
3 weeks ago

Ballymahon

I will look into that. Thank you.

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By *tan1252Man
3 weeks ago

Sudbury

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By *tan1252Man
3 weeks ago

Sudbury

Nope, sorry, this is bullshit. There are multiple studies that have shown that a high level of testosterone does not cause prostate cancer.

In any case, TRT is designed to restore your testosterone to normal levels, not send it sky high.

You're correct about hormone therapy starving prostate cancer of testosterone but that doesn't mean that testosterone actually causes the cancer in the first place."

I agree; there is no evidence whatsoever that testosterone causes prostate cancer.

My urology colleagues point out that prostate cancer generally occurs in older men with low testosterone and hypothesise that maintaining good levels may be beneficial (among its great array of other benefits outlined in the original post)

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By *3versMan
3 weeks ago

glasgow

Nope, sorry, this is bullshit. There are multiple studies that have shown that a high level of testosterone does not cause prostate cancer.

In any case, TRT is designed to restore your testosterone to normal levels, not send it sky high.

You're correct about hormone therapy starving prostate cancer of testosterone but that doesn't mean that testosterone actually causes the cancer in the first place.

I agree; there is no evidence whatsoever that testosterone causes prostate cancer.

Testosterone doesn't cause prostate cancer, but it does stimulate prostate cancer cells to grow and multiply

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3 weeks ago

Cumberland

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By *0yguyMan
3 weeks ago

Cumberland

Having just had radiotherapy treatment for prostate cancer I wouldn’t take the risk of taking testosterone. If there are any cancer cells lurking around I don’t want to encourage them.

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By *iger79Man
3 weeks ago

ipswich

"Having just had radiotherapy treatment for prostate cancer I wouldn’t take the risk of taking testosterone. If there are any cancer cells lurking around I don’t want to encourage them."

That's why you'll be having regular PSA tests for the next few years! TRT is safe as long as it's correctly monitored.

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By *inkyfuckerukMan
3 weeks ago

Worcester

I have been emailed a lot in terms of where I get my trt I do not sell nor can provide a direct please. I am happy to give my own experience and point you in the right direction for your situation

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By *inkyfuckerukMan
3 weeks ago

Worcester

Nope, sorry, this is bullshit. There are multiple studies that have shown that a high level of testosterone does not cause prostate cancer.

In any case, TRT is designed to restore your testosterone to normal levels, not send it sky high.

You're correct about hormone therapy starving prostate cancer of testosterone but that doesn't mean that testosterone actually causes the cancer in the first place.

I agree; there is no evidence whatsoever that testosterone causes prostate cancer.

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Always read the research. for me the upsides beat the risks but that is for each person to decide

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By *ngel50TV/TS
3 weeks ago

Kinross

Nope, sorry, this is bullshit. There are multiple studies that have shown that a high level of testosterone does not cause prostate cancer.

In any case, TRT is designed to restore your testosterone to normal levels, not send it sky high.

You're correct about hormone therapy starving prostate cancer of testosterone but that doesn't mean that testosterone actually causes the cancer in the first place.

I agree; there is no evidence whatsoever that testosterone causes prostate cancer.

Exactly, TRT - testosterone replacement simply replaces and maintains your testosterone at Normal levels.

Not only should your Total testosterone be checked, but Also your Free Testosterone and Bio Testosterone.

Your Free testosterone feeds your bones, keeping a good healthy growth preventing Low bone density and Osteoporosis

Most will not realise that they have Osteoporosis until it's too late.

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By *lipeminMan
3 weeks ago

luton

Nope, sorry, this is bullshit. There are multiple studies that have shown that a high level of testosterone does not cause prostate cancer.

In any case, TRT is designed to restore your testosterone to normal levels, not send it sky high.

You're correct about hormone therapy starving prostate cancer of testosterone but that doesn't mean that testosterone actually causes the cancer in the first place.

I agree; there is no evidence whatsoever that testosterone causes prostate cancer.

Exactly, TRT - testosterone replacement simply replaces and maintains your testosterone at Normal levels.

Not only should your Total testosterone be checked, but Also your Free Testosterone and Bio Testosterone.

Your Free testosterone feeds your bones, keeping a good healthy growth preventing Low bone density and Osteoporosis

Most will not realise that they have Osteoporosis until it's too late."

This is good news to me

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By *jgiver48Man
3 weeks ago

newport

My doctors think 9.3 is acceptable and won't put me on trt. I display many symptoms but they refuse. What are my options?

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By *ngel50TV/TS
2 weeks ago

Kinross

What is your total testosterone blood result? Your doctor will have taken this and you can ask him.

If 13nmol/L or lower you should consider TRT.

GP doctors only test total because it's too costly to check Free & bio testosterone.

Total testosterone is broken down and used by your body and muscles, what is left... is Free testosterone and this goes into rebuilding your bones.

If you have Low free testosterone you will develop osteopinia - this is the onset of osteoporosis and osteoporosis is the next step.

Then you will find that if you have a fall, you will fracture your hip, or break your pelvis... why? Because your doctor failed to test you correctly for low testosterone

And if you do get tested, it is essential that your blood is taken before 10am in morning, the earlier the better.

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By *etterbiggerMan
2 weeks ago

Scunthorpe

I have had next to no libido or erections for a while. I don't meet often or go cruising, what's the point. I can't be bothered anyway. I can sleep for England. I have no stamina and little interest in much at all. Out walking with friends if they pick the pace up a little I can't keep up. I just can't find another gear. I'm losing body hair. I've a good pair of legs. They look like they have been shaved. told all this and more to my Dr. I get the results of the blood tests next week. He thinks, like me my testosterone level is too low. I hope so, and hope I'm accepted for treatment. I have hypothyroidism. A lot of the symptoms are the same. I really hope I get to see an endocrinologist and get to find out why my hormone levels are so low. Thanks guys for sharing I feel a bit brighter for it. As I said to my Dr I'm in a very fortunate position. At my age I should be having the time of my life and I'm not. Let's see what Thursday brings, fingers crossed

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By *ngel50TV/TS
2 weeks ago

Kinross

"I have had next to no libido or erections for a while. I don't meet often or go cruising, what's the point. I can't be bothered anyway. I can sleep for England. I have no stamina and little interest in much at all. Out walking with friends if they pick the pace up a little I can't keep up. I just can't find another gear. I'm losing body hair. I've a good pair of legs. They look like they have been shaved. told all this and more to my Dr. I get the results of the blood tests next week. He thinks, like me my testosterone level is too low. I hope so, and hope I'm accepted for treatment. I have hypothyroidism. A lot of the symptoms are the same. I really hope I get to see an endocrinologist and get to find out why my hormone levels are so low. Thanks guys for sharing I feel a bit brighter for it. As I said to my Dr I'm in a very fortunate position. At my age I should be having the time of my life and I'm not. Let's see what Thursday brings, fingers crossed "

Remember: NHS safe testosterone levels are 9nmol/L to 28 nmol/L

If you are 9 or above your doctor will probably say you are fine.

If you're results are anywhere below 13 nmol/L then get a 2nd opinion or go private.

Also remember that your initial blood test for checking testosterone levels MUST be taken before 10am.

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By *nnocentstudMan
2 days ago

Manchester

and how long does that take to reach in cancer form

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By *inkyfuckerukMan
1 day ago

Worcester

I think you will find that it's not directly correlated and you are looking at one part. People who have higher testosterone in older life have better outcomes better bone density, muscle all sorts of factors that old people suffer and sadly die from. I am on trt not NHS and I am very happy with the overall benefits vs risk https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21151163.amp

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By *orcester GuyMan
1 day ago

Worcestershire North

Thanks for really informative post

Well worth thinking about

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By *ave47Man
1 day ago

leigh

Thanks for the information mate. I might get myself checked out as I suffer from most of the things you described

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By *lumbs238Man
21 hours ago

Pompey ish

I have been on TRT for about a year now the results are amazing if you are experiencing the symptoms at the top of the thread please speak to your GP you might need to nag them a bit but get on the program you’ll feel loads better - and yeah the erections are a welcome return lol - peace out x

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By *oey6666Man
21 hours ago

somewhere near you

How do you get a private test who do you need to contact

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By *ugh40Man
21 hours ago

Wetherby

Numan

They have an offer on at the moment

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By *inkyfuckerukMan
2 hours ago

Worcester

"How do you get a private test who do you need to contact "
you can get medichecks. Private is expensive and you have to be very low for the NHS to care. You don't want to end up buying bodybuilder homebrew testerone so I'm lucky I get pharma through a contact and get tests done regularly so a lot cheaper.

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By *inkyfuckerukMan
2 hours ago

Worcester

Remember: NHS safe testosterone levels are 9nmol/L to 28 nmol/L

If you are 9 or above your doctor will probably say you are fine.

If you're results are anywhere below 13 nmol/L then get a 2nd opinion or go private.

Also remember that your initial blood test for checking testosterone levels MUST be taken before 10am."
it's genuinly shitty. The only difference between the menapause and testosterone decline is test is slow. If it happened over night they would be pumping us all with testerone

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By *rbyTV/TS
2 hours ago

SUNDERLAND

This explains a lot.

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