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"Stuff like this is a waste of time. Of course people who didn't vote Labour aren't happy. Mind you, people who normally vote Labour aren't happy either. They're permanently miserable anyway. " Correct, it's a pity that parliamentary is wasted, over 6M people voted for a second referendum for Brexit but nothing came of it | |||
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"So that means 57.2 million people haven’t signed it. It’s pathetic. Before they even got in Labour were saying it’s going to get worse before better. They’ve got to unpick 14 years of shite. The British public don’t half enjoy making themselves look silly. " Where do you get that figure from? According to the electoral commission eligible voters in the 2024 election numbered 48.2 million. If you are going to use statistics as d*unk uses a lampost (more for support than illumination) at least lets get the figures right eh? | |||
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"The petition for the hard of thinking." Yes and no. Some no doubt signed it seriously believing that it would force another general election which would result in Labour being swept away and probably thought their 'hero' Farage would head a new government and everything would be perfect as a result. Others, like myself, signed it as a bit of fun not even really expecting it to reach parliament. A rather tongue-in-cheek expression of dissatisfaction in Starmer and his shambolic government | |||
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"The petition for the hard of thinking. Yes and no. Some no doubt signed it seriously believing that it would force another general election which would result in Labour being swept away and probably thought their 'hero' Farage would head a new government and everything would be perfect as a result. Others, like myself, signed it as a bit of fun not even really expecting it to reach parliament. A rather tongue-in-cheek expression of dissatisfaction in Starmer and his shambolic government" Well said. And thank goodness we can do such a thing without fear of arrest for daring to make an antigovernment comment on social media... Oh hang on a minute... | |||
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"Are the people demanding another vote after only 4 months the same people who insisted the 2016 referendum result was binding and said no 2nd vote should be held? " They had a petition too are you saying that they are only good for some points of view? | |||
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"Are the people demanding another vote after only 4 months the same people who insisted the 2016 referendum result was binding and said no 2nd vote should be held? " Yes | |||
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"Are the people demanding another vote after only 4 months the same people who insisted the 2016 referendum result was binding and said no 2nd vote should be held? They had a petition too are you saying that they are only good for some points of view?" He said no such thing. | |||
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"Are the people demanding another vote after only 4 months the same people who insisted the 2016 referendum result was binding and said no 2nd vote should be held? Yes" I know someone who voted for brexit, called people remoaners and then voted Labour this time, so no it's not. It's a generalisation people are fickle and change their minds all the time. Personally I think Labour are on a trajectory to making everything much worse. I will never vote Labour or tory. They're all lying shits. | |||
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"So the government are to debate the petition on the 6th January, not that it will come to anything apart from embarrass Starmer a bit but he won't care." why would it come of anything? You think you can just over turn a majority elected government because you don't like the results? Can we run Brexit again in that basis? Because we were told by you lot that we had to accept democracy on that vote. It's absolutely pathetic to see folks like you clamouring to change the democratic process when you don't like the result. Perhaps you'd be better off moving to the US. | |||
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"So the government are to debate the petition on the 6th January, not that it will come to anything apart from embarrass Starmer a bit but he won't care. why would it come of anything? You think you can just over turn a majority elected government because you don't like the results? Can we run Brexit again in that basis? Because we were told by you lot that we had to accept democracy on that vote. It's absolutely pathetic to see folks like you clamouring to change the democratic process when you don't like the result. Perhaps you'd be better off moving to the US." I agree with what you're saying to a degree, but it could be a good thing. It might show the government that they're pissing a lot of people off and they might change a few of their plans which I personally think are ridiculous. | |||
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"Are the people demanding another vote after only 4 months the same people who insisted the 2016 referendum result was binding and said no 2nd vote should be held? They had a petition too are you saying that they are only good for some points of view?" That petition was tossed in the bin. This one should be, too. Elections create a Parliament for a 5-year term. Under our system, only our elected representatives can interfere with that cycle by passing a motion of no-confidence in the executive, which in turn leads to the head of state dissolving Parliament and a new election. | |||
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"So the government are to debate the petition on the 6th January, not that it will come to anything apart from embarrass Starmer a bit but he won't care. why would it come of anything? You think you can just over turn a majority elected government because you don't like the results? Can we run Brexit again in that basis? Because we were told by you lot that we had to accept democracy on that vote. It's absolutely pathetic to see folks like you clamouring to change the democratic process when you don't like the result. Perhaps you'd be better off moving to the US." It was nothing to do with changing the results (although I guess some thought it might) it is a way of expressing dissatisfaction with the way this government lied to the electorate without being branded a right wing thug. | |||
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"It was nothing to do with changing the results (although I guess some thought it might) it is a way of expressing dissatisfaction with the way this government lied to the electorate without being branded a right wing thug. "That's a fair point. I think the rules say that any petition generating over 100,000 signatures becomes eligible for debate in Westminster Hall, providing an MP will speak for it. | |||
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"Don't you mean a left wing thug?" Same thing | |||
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"Signed by in excess of 2.8 million as it stands at the moment, in public Starmer tried to dismiss this huge indicator of discontentment with his administration but behind closed doors it must certainly give him and his supporters something to think about, Labour MP's will want to save their own necks first and foremost, so Starmer's position as party leader could be under serious consideration! " Anyone can sign it, all you need is to put in a UK postcode - it's certainly got groundswell but for all we know it could be an Elon Musk bot signing it. | |||
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"Are the people demanding another vote after only 4 months the same people who insisted the 2016 referendum result was binding and said no 2nd vote should be held? " no it’s the same whiney people that called for a rerun when we left the eu , some people never give up 
But unlike our eu departure starmer’s will be a lot sooner | |||
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"Signed by in excess of 2.8 million as it stands at the moment, in public Starmer tried to dismiss this huge indicator of discontentment with his administration but behind closed doors it must certainly give him and his supporters something to think about, Labour MP's will want to save their own necks first and foremost, so Starmer's position as party leader could be under serious consideration! Anyone can sign it, all you need is to put in a UK postcode - it's certainly got groundswell but for all we know it could be an Elon Musk bot signing it." Not quite true you need an email address too.They e-mailed me last night to say when it will be taken up in parliament. | |||
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"Signed by in excess of 2.8 million as it stands at the moment, in public Starmer tried to dismiss this huge indicator of discontentment with his administration but behind closed doors it must certainly give him and his supporters something to think about, Labour MP's will want to save their own necks first and foremost, so Starmer's position as party leader could be under serious consideration! Anyone can sign it, all you need is to put in a UK postcode - it's certainly got groundswell but for all we know it could be an Elon Musk bot signing it." Needs a registered email address, go sign it and find out  | |||
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"So that means 57.2 million people haven’t signed it. It’s pathetic. Before they even got in Labour were saying it’s going to get worse before better. They’ve got to unpick 14 years of shite. The British public don’t half enjoy making themselves look silly. " Yeah they sure do.... "I'm voting liebour" "I'm voting Tory" Won't even consider how broke the system is and that there are other alternatives..... Sheep.... | |||
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"So that means 57.2 million people haven’t signed it. It’s pathetic. Before they even got in Labour were saying it’s going to get worse before better. They’ve got to unpick 14 years of shite. The British public don’t half enjoy making themselves look silly. Where do you get that figure from? According to the electoral commission eligible voters in the 2024 election numbered 48.2 million. If you are going to use statistics as d*unk uses a lampost (more for support than illumination) at least lets get the figures right eh?" I was being purposely flippant. As this number of names signed keeps getting banded around like it’s a mandate that can’t be ignored. So my figure was to highlight in a very light touch way that it’s a tiny % of the population so means sod all really. Also, there is quite heavy suggestion that a lot of the names on that petition aren’t actual UK citizens so that makes it even less relevant. I agree it’s important to use correct facts when discussing important things. Lucky for us this isn’t important, it’s a nonsense dummy spit driven by social media. Like a lot of politics these days. | |||
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"So that means 57.2 million people haven’t signed it. It’s pathetic. Before they even got in Labour were saying it’s going to get worse before better. They’ve got to unpick 14 years of shite. The British public don’t half enjoy making themselves look silly. Where do you get that figure from? According to the electoral commission eligible voters in the 2024 election numbered 48.2 million. If you are going to use statistics as d*unk uses a lampost (more for support than illumination) at least lets get the figures right eh?" Because there are over 60m people in the UK. You don't have to have voted in the election to sign the petition. | |||
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"Complete waste of time. The government have a massive majority and nowt is going to change between now and the next election. So suck it up silly time wasting petioneers and go google how democracy works." The right honourable PM Boris Johnson had an unassailable majority too, Round one of free gear sleazy has been played out , it’s just a matter of time before labour start looking into themselves for his replacement, sooner rather than later at his back sliding popularity | |||
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"Complete waste of time. The government have a massive majority and nowt is going to change between now and the next election. So suck it up silly time wasting petioneers and go google how democracy works."  | |||
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"Given the OP was asking about the petition why oh why do some people alwasy have to bring Brexit up and hijack the thread? I dont know, i's almost like they're narked about losing or something. " Because a much larger petition calling for a second referendum was ignored by the government. It's quite an easy comparison to make. | |||
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"So that means 57.2 million people haven’t signed it. It’s pathetic. Before they even got in Labour were saying it’s going to get worse before better. They’ve got to unpick 14 years of shite. The British public don’t half enjoy making themselves look silly. Where do you get that figure from? According to the electoral commission eligible voters in the 2024 election numbered 48.2 million. If you are going to use statistics as d*unk uses a lampost (more for support than illumination) at least lets get the figures right eh? Because there are over 60m people in the UK. You don't have to have voted in the election to sign the petition. " Can kiddies sign? | |||
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"Given the OP was asking about the petition why oh why do some people alwasy have to bring Brexit up and hijack the thread? I dont know, i's almost like they're narked about losing or something. Because a much larger petition calling for a second referendum was ignored by the government. It's quite an easy comparison to make. " And muddying the water is just a bonus hey! | |||
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"Complete waste of time. The government have a massive majority and nowt is going to change between now and the next election. So suck it up silly time wasting petioneers and go google how democracy works. The right honourable PM Boris Johnson had an unassailable majority too, Round one of free gear sleazy has been played out , it’s just a matter of time before labour start looking into themselves for his replacement, sooner rather than later at his back sliding popularity " I'm afraid equating the absolute scoundrel Johnson, hounded out of Westminster by his peers and Keir Starmer is just nonsense. One was a clown chancer whose gob, guile & backstabbing got him into power when he was remarkably in the right place at the right time...the other is a good old fashioned politician with, you know, things like principles and a determination to do the best for the greater good of the country. | |||
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"Complete waste of time. The government have a massive majority and nowt is going to change between now and the next election. So suck it up silly time wasting petioneers and go google how democracy works. The right honourable PM Boris Johnson had an unassailable majority too, Round one of free gear sleazy has been played out , it’s just a matter of time before labour start looking into themselves for his replacement, sooner rather than later at his back sliding popularity I'm afraid equating the absolute scoundrel Johnson, hounded out of Westminster by his peers and Keir Starmer is just nonsense. One was a clown chancer whose gob, guile & backstabbing got him into power when he was remarkably in the right place at the right time...the other is a good old fashioned politician with, you know, things like principles and a determination to do the best for the greater good of the country. " . Not forgetting his mate Ali who apparently buys ma starmer’s cloths , bit kinky having another man buy your wife’s knicker sets but hey each to their own , But can’t quite see the benefit to the country unless he’s going to give Sara a Ali gift card to the knicker shop | |||
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"Complete waste of time. The government have a massive majority and nowt is going to change between now and the next election. So suck it up silly time wasting petioneers and go google how democracy works. The right honourable PM Boris Johnson had an unassailable majority too, Round one of free gear sleazy has been played out , it’s just a matter of time before labour start looking into themselves for his replacement, sooner rather than later at his back sliding popularity I'm afraid equating the absolute scoundrel Johnson, hounded out of Westminster by his peers and Keir Starmer is just nonsense. One was a clown chancer whose gob, guile & backstabbing got him into power when he was remarkably in the right place at the right time...the other is a good old fashioned politician with, you know, things like principles and a determination to do the best for the greater good of the country. " Propped up by residents of clown world….. He is the most hated PM in the countries history and achieved in 4 months. | |||
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" Not forgetting his mate Ali who apparently buys ma starmer’s cloths , bit kinky having another man buy your wife’s knicker sets but hey each to their own , But can’t quite see the benefit to the country unless he’s going to give Sara a Ali gift card to the knicker shop" The level of political debate on here is quite something... | |||
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"Shame nobody got equally hysterical When over 6 million people signed the reversal of Brexit petition but democracy doesn’t operate by petition. …." Has anyone got hysterical? I don’t think anyone thought Two Tier Keir was going to say “ok, GE it is”. The petition is a protest and it’s loudly stating “Starmer, you’re a cunt”. | |||
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"Complete waste of time. The government have a massive majority and nowt is going to change between now and the next election. So suck it up silly time wasting petioneers and go google how democracy works." I know how democracy works and if he is still Labour leader at the next election Labour won't be getting my vote. | |||
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"Are the people demanding another vote after only 4 months the same people who insisted the 2016 referendum result was binding and said no 2nd vote should be held? " Possibly they are, who knows We do know that Starmer wanted a 2nd referendum in 2019. So he wasn't prepared to accept the referendum result. | |||
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"Shame nobody got equally hysterical When over 6 million people signed the reversal of Brexit petition but democracy doesn’t operate by petition. …. Has anyone got hysterical? I don’t think anyone thought Two Tier Keir was going to say “ok, GE it is”. The petition is a protest and it’s loudly stating “Starmer, you’re a cunt”." Exactly and a stupid one at that! | |||
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"Like no one knew that tough decisions would have to be made, they said it would be 5 years before things started improving - you don’t wave a magic wand and reverse 14 years of the last government screwing the country. Fine, sign your pointless petition - because the alternative is so much better! Said no one ever!" . Things started to improve under Rishi. Energy priced controlled, inflation falling, unemployment at its lowest. Rwanda ready to go after numerous blocks from labour. Just public bought Starmers lies. Serve them right now | |||
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"Are the people demanding another vote after only 4 months the same people who insisted the 2016 referendum result was binding and said no 2nd vote should be held? " . Those who voted remain are asking for an election. Your another blind labourite. Cracks are widening | |||
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"Like no one knew that tough decisions would have to be made, they said it would be 5 years before things started improving - you don’t wave a magic wand and reverse 14 years of the last government screwing the country. Fine, sign your pointless petition - because the alternative is so much better! Said no one ever!. Things started to improve under Rishi. Energy priced controlled, inflation falling, unemployment at its lowest. Rwanda ready to go after numerous blocks from labour. Just public bought Starmers lies. Serve them right now" Do you really believe unemployment has changed that much in 4 months? Rwanda was never going to work. Even the Rwandan government were distancing themselves from it. Starmer said there will need to be tough choices made and it will get worse before it got better. Weird how so many people bought into Johnson, Truss and Sunak lies, but blame Starmer for everything. | |||
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"I don't like labout nor kier starter but they won the election and the right to govern for the next 5 years. Stupid petition shoukd be dismissed " exactly. Demanding the election be rerun after they achieved the landslide mandate is ridiculous just because people don't like the result. Same people were probably aghast at Trump trying the same thing but with different tactics. | |||
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"I don't like labout nor kier starter but they won the election and the right to govern for the next 5 years. Stupid petition shoukd be dismissed exactly. Demanding the election be rerun after they achieved the landslide mandate is ridiculous just because people don't like the result. Same people were probably aghast at Trump trying the same thing but with different tactics." You know you're sounding dangerously like you want to suppress free speech, cant say thats a surprise but ignore this groundswell of opinion at your peril. Our first past the post system may have handed labour a huge majority but i think it was largely a victory by default due to massive abstentions of pissed off tory voters rather than people really getting behind the labour manifesto as the one to trust. And initial performance has definitely shown any such trust to be rather misplaced at best. | |||
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"I don't like labout nor kier starter but they won the election and the right to govern for the next 5 years. Stupid petition shoukd be dismissed exactly. Demanding the election be rerun after they achieved the landslide mandate is ridiculous just because people don't like the result. Same people were probably aghast at Trump trying the same thing but with different tactics." I agree with you, and the fact that you've got a peachy arse hasn't influenced me in the slightest. 😄 | |||
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"What is missing from this discussion is any consideration about the motive of the signatories. If most of the signatories are Reform UK supporters then clearly they would be disgruntled from the word go as they did not get the result they voted for. On the other hand if most of the signatories are Labour supporters then there is an issue. What you cannot say about the petition is that "the public" support the petition. Only a particular interested section of the public support the petition. " Given the numbers that turned out to vote you can say the same thing about the current government, only a particular section of the public support them and even they are questioning their decisions… | |||
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"It's not about a rerun of the election, it's the message the public are sending. Three things helped get Labour it's majority 1 people were tired of the tories. 2 the collapse of the SNP vote. 3 reform took away a lot of tory votes. Kier needs to heed the warning if he wants to be in power in 5 years time. Blaming the last government is going to only go so far. " It worked for the tories for 14 years. So they are good for at least another 10 years. | |||
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"It's not about a rerun of the election, it's the message the public are sending. Three things helped get Labour it's majority 1 people were tired of the tories. 2 the collapse of the SNP vote. 3 reform took away a lot of tory votes. Kier needs to heed the warning if he wants to be in power in 5 years time. Blaming the last government is going to only go so far. It worked for the tories for 14 years. So they are good for at least another 10 years." Rest on your laurels and see what happens, without Scotland there is no Labour government just because Labour have a majority now it doesn't mean they will have next time. | |||
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"Timothy Chalamet was given some advice on playing Bob Dylan in the upcoming film "A Complete Unknown", that may well sweep the Oscars. "Don't worry about upsetting the Bob Dylan fans, they don't even like what Bob Dylan does" There's a fair element of whingeing going on from Labour supporters. It was ever thus. Starmer was never going to do it for them, he was anti-Corbyn, Thatcherite, too right leaning etc Reform and the media are against him for the opposite reasons...he supported Cornyn, he's a socialist, pro free movement. Poor chap can't win...but doesn't need to really. He's not our president, he has a truly massive majority and a solid & talented cabinet behind him with Labour principles (unlike the last bunch of chancers) enabling him to enjoy the next 5 years. So relax folks and enjoy the ride...." A talented cabinet don't make me laugh .None of the cabinet have ever run their own business i would be interested in what you think are some of the talents they have regarding their roles . Yes I can see Rachel thieves has a particular talent in customer service which will keep her busy as don't think many are happy with her performance so far. As for the rest Lammy etc what are their talents? | |||
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"Like no one knew that tough decisions would have to be made, they said it would be 5 years before things started improving - you don’t wave a magic wand and reverse 14 years of the last government screwing the country. Fine, sign your pointless petition - because the alternative is so much better! Said no one ever!. Things started to improve under Rishi. Energy priced controlled, inflation falling, unemployment at its lowest. Rwanda ready to go after numerous blocks from labour. Just public bought Starmers lies. Serve them right now Do you really believe unemployment has changed that much in 4 months? Rwanda was never going to work. Even the Rwandan government were distancing themselves from it. Starmer said there will need to be tough choices made and it will get worse before it got better. Weird how so many people bought into Johnson, Truss and Sunak lies, but blame Starmer for everything. " . Tell that to the elderly vulnerable. Some of us care about society | |||
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"Like no one knew that tough decisions would have to be made, they said it would be 5 years before things started improving - you don’t wave a magic wand and reverse 14 years of the last government screwing the country. Fine, sign your pointless petition - because the alternative is so much better! Said no one ever!. Things started to improve under Rishi. Energy priced controlled, inflation falling, unemployment at its lowest. Rwanda ready to go after numerous blocks from labour. Just public bought Starmers lies. Serve them right now Do you really believe unemployment has changed that much in 4 months? Rwanda was never going to work. Even the Rwandan government were distancing themselves from it. Starmer said there will need to be tough choices made and it will get worse before it got better. Weird how so many people bought into Johnson, Truss and Sunak lies, but blame Starmer for everything. " . Also Rwanda was up and paid for. So yes of course it would work. Australians proved that. It was delayed because labour dragged it through the courts to buy time. As for unemployment not increasing. Tell that to all the vauxhall workers about to lose their jobs. And the many others who will also be layed off following the massive business tax hikes in last budget. | |||
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"Weird how so many people bought into Johnson, Truss and Sunak lies, but blame Starmer for everything. THIS X 100! Their supporters are even more delusional than the Tory bull shitters themselves "Nonsense. A lot of we Conservatives were well aware of the shortcomings of the last government which was not entirely their fault. Things were running fairly smoothly prior to Covid, the Ukraine war, international fuel prices rises etc. Trying to sort Brexit out didn't help either. That was a bit of a millstone hanging round the necks of all Conservative PM. I'm not blaming Starmer and his government for everything. I would never support them but was prepared to give them a chance. So far they have proved anything but competent. | |||
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"x Nonsense. A lot of we Conservatives were well aware of the shortcomings of the last government which was not entirely their fault. Things were running fairly smoothly prior to Covid, the Ukraine war, international fuel prices rises etc. Trying to sort Brexit out didn't help either. That was a bit of a millstone hanging round the necks of all Conservative PM. I'm not blaming Starmer and his government for everything. I would never support them but was prepared to give them a chance. So far they have proved anything but competent." " anything but competent."??? Nonsense. They did more in 14 weeks than the Tories did in 14 years. They’ve been busy... taking rail into public ownership, founding Great British Energy, reviving onshore wind, new trade union and working rights, rights for renters, planning reform to speed housebuilding, a national wealth fund for green investment, more teachers, no one-word Ofsted damnations, and a child poverty review that can only end in more money for children. Sorted out the nurses, the doctors, & the candlestick makers probably. And the rest... | |||
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"Approaching 3 million now. Speaks volumes about what people think of the standard so far. I had a quick look at the voting map, majority surprisingly are from traditional strong Labour areas of the country. Don't think Starmer will still be PM come next election." This petition is being signed mostly by bots. Signed from over 180 different countries. Also the "4yr term" being used in comments. Governments are elected into power for a 5yr term in the U K. You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to spot the clues. Far right up to it's shady antics again. | |||
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"So that means 57.2 million people haven’t signed it. It’s pathetic. Before they even got in Labour were saying it’s going to get worse before better. They’ve got to unpick 14 years of shite. The British public don’t half enjoy making themselves look silly. " But be honest Labour are shite . Just look at qualifications of those in top positions. Most even look like pantomime characters . Like putting your Co Op corner shop manager and his staff tell them to run Tesco . Just bunch amateur running the show Like Truss a fuck up . | |||
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"x Nonsense. A lot of we Conservatives were well aware of the shortcomings of the last government which was not entirely their fault. Things were running fairly smoothly prior to Covid, the Ukraine war, international fuel prices rises etc. Trying to sort Brexit out didn't help either. That was a bit of a millstone hanging round the necks of all Conservative PM. I'm not blaming Starmer and his government for everything. I would never support them but was prepared to give them a chance. So far they have proved anything but competent. " anything but competent."??? Nonsense. They did more in 14 weeks than the Tories did in 14 years. They’ve been busy... taking rail into public ownership, founding Great British Energy, reviving onshore wind, new trade union and working rights, rights for renters, planning reform to speed housebuilding, a national wealth fund for green investment, more teachers, no one-word Ofsted damnations, and a child poverty review that can only end in more money for children. Sorted out the nurses, the doctors, & the candlestick makers probably. And the rest..." Put up energy prices by £300 average took OAPS heating allowance . People lost jobs because increase in NI . Close Vauxhall at Luton . More boat people. More hotels taken up . We only into 14 weeks . Wonder how much they giving Iran in that deal ? | |||
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"x Nonsense. A lot of we Conservatives were well aware of the shortcomings of the last government which was not entirely their fault. Things were running fairly smoothly prior to Covid, the Ukraine war, international fuel prices rises etc. Trying to sort Brexit out didn't help either. That was a bit of a millstone hanging round the necks of all Conservative PM. I'm not blaming Starmer and his government for everything. I would never support them but was prepared to give them a chance. So far they have proved anything but competent. " anything but competent."??? Nonsense. They did more in 14 weeks than the Tories did in 14 years. They’ve been busy... taking rail into public ownership, founding Great British Energy, reviving onshore wind, new trade union and working rights, rights for renters, planning reform to speed housebuilding, a national wealth fund for green investment, more teachers, no one-word Ofsted damnations, and a child poverty review that can only end in more money for children. Sorted out the nurses, the doctors, & the candlestick makers probably. And the rest..." In your mind maybe | |||
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"Starmer is a WEF traitor.. but so are many others.. it won't matter who you vote for you'll still get WEF plans, UN Agenda21 and it's massive human depopulation. It's often identified by the terms "sustainable" "affordable" "net zero" or other fluffy buzzwords. The current issue with the farmers can looked at with an eye that saw Schwab say "you will eat ze bugs" and that by 2030 "you will own nothing..and be happy". Everything ties up now.. the dots are joined. It's no longer hidden. Ultimately it boils down to 95% depopulation of humanity leaving the whole thing as a planet grab by the ultra rich elites for themselves and their bloodlines and the evolution of human 2.0 Please research and think." Yep, looked into it. It's bollox. | |||
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"Starmer is a WEF traitor.. but so are many others.. it won't matter who you vote for you'll still get WEF plans, UN Agenda21 and it's massive human depopulation. It's often identified by the terms "sustainable" "affordable" "net zero" or other fluffy buzzwords. The current issue with the farmers can looked at with an eye that saw Schwab say "you will eat ze bugs" and that by 2030 "you will own nothing..and be happy". Everything ties up now.. the dots are joined. It's no longer hidden. Ultimately it boils down to 95% depopulation of humanity leaving the whole thing as a planet grab by the ultra rich elites for themselves and their bloodlines and the evolution of human 2.0 Please research and think." 95% de population! What planet are you on? | |||
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"What seems to me to be the problem is that, having had 14yrs to think about how they would run the country they get in and still do not have a clue. Whats happening with the "big ticket items" like immigration. Whats the plan? The economy, the budhet screws the small business and Starmer broadvrush insults all small business owner who pay themselves a dividen by saying they dont work for a living. My boss works 70hrs a week and I bet pays herself less than me at the minute Big auto Oems considering closing plants over as yet uncommented on draconian penaltiea for not selling cars to people who, on the whole, dobt want or cannot afford them. The list does go on but I wont. " Maybe read different news sites if you want to know what's happening on immigration. Did you think it would stop overnight after it's been happening for years. The carplant that may close has been in trouble for years,do you really think they decided to close it straight after the budget? Oh and government plans to force carmakers to stop selling fuel cars was bought in by the last government. | |||
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"Starmer is a WEF traitor.. but so are many others.. it won't matter who you vote for you'll still get WEF plans, UN Agenda21 and it's massive human depopulation. It's often identified by the terms "sustainable" "affordable" "net zero" or other fluffy buzzwords. The current issue with the farmers can looked at with an eye that saw Schwab say "you will eat ze bugs" and that by 2030 "you will own nothing..and be happy". Everything ties up now.. the dots are joined. It's no longer hidden. Ultimately it boils down to 95% depopulation of humanity leaving the whole thing as a planet grab by the ultra rich elites for themselves and their bloodlines and the evolution of human 2.0 Please research and think. 95% de population! What planet are you on?" All the mega rich will move to the moon or Mars anyway. | |||
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"x Nonsense. A lot of we Conservatives were well aware of the shortcomings of the last government which was not entirely their fault. Things were running fairly smoothly prior to Covid, the Ukraine war, international fuel prices rises etc. Trying to sort Brexit out didn't help either. That was a bit of a millstone hanging round the necks of all Conservative PM. I'm not blaming Starmer and his government for everything. I would never support them but was prepared to give them a chance. So far they have proved anything but competent. " anything but competent."??? Nonsense. They did more in 14 weeks than the Tories did in 14 years. They’ve been busy... taking rail into public ownership, founding Great British Energy, reviving onshore wind, new trade union and working rights, rights for renters, planning reform to speed housebuilding, a national wealth fund for green investment, more teachers, no one-word Ofsted damnations, and a child poverty review that can only end in more money for children. Sorted out the nurses, the doctors, & the candlestick makers probably. And the rest..." I wonder what fantasy land you live in because it is as sure as hell NOT the UK. Most of the achievements you have listed just have not happened. Think you read that all off a Labour Party political broadcast site. Or perhaps the 'dear leader' told you to say it. | |||
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"x Nonsense. A lot of we Conservatives were well aware of the shortcomings of the last government which was not entirely their fault. Things were running fairly smoothly prior to Covid, the Ukraine war, international fuel prices rises etc. Trying to sort Brexit out didn't help either. That was a bit of a millstone hanging round the necks of all Conservative PM. I'm not blaming Starmer and his government for everything. I would never support them but was prepared to give them a chance. So far they have proved anything but competent. " anything but competent."??? Nonsense. They did more in 14 weeks than the Tories did in 14 years. They’ve been busy... taking rail into public ownership, founding Great British Energy, reviving onshore wind, new trade union and working rights, rights for renters, planning reform to speed housebuilding, a national wealth fund for green investment, more teachers, no one-word Ofsted damnations, and a child poverty review that can only end in more money for children. Sorted out the nurses, the doctors, & the candlestick makers probably. And the rest..." And leaving the elderly vulnerable struggling to get through winter, Releasing 100s of dangerous criminals with no homes or prospects. Taxing the people by the back door, allowing illegal immigration to soar, And hamering businesses which we know will lead to redundancies for many. All because he paid of the big unions who got him into power | |||
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"x And leaving the elderly vulnerable struggling to get through winter, Releasing 100s of dangerous criminals with no homes or prospects. Taxing the people by the back door, allowing illegal immigration to soar, And hamering businesses which we know will lead to redundancies for many. All because he paid of the big unions who got him into power" Yes I imagine the likes of Sirs Paul McCartney and Elton John will be shivering in their mansions now they've been stripped of that £200 WFA that they, like many people, wouldn't even have noticed going into their bank accounts. Those in need will still get it. That's how it should work. The criminal release scheme was set up by the previous Tory government and is due to them totally fucking up the prison system. Tax pays for your NHS and other necessary things, that's how we get a civilised, caring, modern society. Immigration was allowed to soar by the Tories as yesterday showed. Labour haven't paid any big unions. That's not how pay negotiations work mate. So all in all you are talking nonsense. | |||
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"Starmer is a WEF traitor.. but so are many others.. it won't matter who you vote for you'll still get WEF plans, UN Agenda21 and it's massive human depopulation. It's often identified by the terms "sustainable" "affordable" "net zero" or other fluffy buzzwords. The current issue with the farmers can looked at with an eye that saw Schwab say "you will eat ze bugs" and that by 2030 "you will own nothing..and be happy". Everything ties up now.. the dots are joined. It's no longer hidden. Ultimately it boils down to 95% depopulation of humanity leaving the whole thing as a planet grab by the ultra rich elites for themselves and their bloodlines and the evolution of human 2.0 Please research and think. Yep, looked into it. It's bollox. " Agreed. Absolute bollocks. You just know from the moment someone says WEF that their local supermarkets have a permanent supply issue with tin foil. I don't understand how people fall for this absolute tosh. | |||
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"Signed by in excess of 2.8 million as it stands at the moment, in public Starmer tried to dismiss this huge indicator of discontentment with his administration but behind closed doors it must certainly give him and his supporters something to think about, Labour MP's will want to save their own necks first and foremost, so Starmer's position as party leader could be under serious consideration! " This is proof of the stupidity of modern people who do not think just follow social media It is a total waste of time no government can achieve anything in 5 mins and to put things right may need unpleasant medicine no government is there to make popular decisions they are there to find long term solutions | |||
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"A lot of our money is also going on Green shit, all that comes out of our pockets. Nobody wants subsidised windmills and electric expensive cars." Oh yes totally agree with you, we will need a bigger garden soon for all the different bins and now the council wants us to rinse cans and bottles to “help their supplier” lol never mind waste a load of water | |||
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"So let’s say this petition gets 5 million signatures, or 10 million even. It will get talked about in Parliament. Then what? A vote there on having a new election? How’s that going to go? Does anyone actually think that with a majority of over 150 seats that the vote will go against the government and there will be a new election? Why people keep going on about the size of the petition bemuses me. It’s going to do nothing, and that’s a good thing. I’m not a labour supporter, but they won the election fair and square. Just because a bunch of sore losers don’t like the result doesn’t make it wrong or something that should be changed. That’s just how democracy works." I don't think anyone has claimed it will change anything or that it would.Its a good way of people showing their dissatisfaction with the government after all there are a lot of oaps who cant take to the streets or farmers who are too busy it also stops never here kier branding people right wing thugs. | |||
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"Stuff like this is a waste of time. Of course people who didn't vote Labour aren't happy. Mind you, people who normally vote Labour aren't happy either. They're permanently miserable anyway. " Many people who voted Labour are very unhappy too. | |||
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"So let’s say this petition gets 5 million signatures, or 10 million even. It will get talked about in Parliament. Then what? A vote there on having a new election? How’s that going to go? Does anyone actually think that with a majority of over 150 seats that the vote will go against the government and there will be a new election? Why people keep going on about the size of the petition bemuses me. It’s going to do nothing, and that’s a good thing. I’m not a labour supporter, but they won the election fair and square. Just because a bunch of sore losers don’t like the result doesn’t make it wrong or something that should be changed. That’s just how democracy works.I don't think anyone has claimed it will change anything or that it would.Its a good way of people showing their dissatisfaction with the government after all there are a lot of oaps who cant take to the streets or farmers who are too busy it also stops never here kier branding people right wing thugs. "Christ, it’s like an AI bot generating GBNews talking points | |||
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"A lot of our money is also going on Green shit, all that comes out of our pockets. Nobody wants subsidised windmills and electric expensive cars." Speak for yourself...Aren't you still using horses and carts in Fenland anyway. Very green. | |||
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"So let’s say this petition gets 5 million signatures, or 10 million even. It will get talked about in Parliament. Then what? A vote there on having a new election? How’s that going to go? Does anyone actually think that with a majority of over 150 seats that the vote will go against the government and there will be a new election? Why people keep going on about the size of the petition bemuses me. It’s going to do nothing, and that’s a good thing. I’m not a labour supporter, but they won the election fair and square. Just because a bunch of sore losers don’t like the result doesn’t make it wrong or something that should be changed. That’s just how democracy works.I don't think anyone has claimed it will change anything or that it would.Its a good way of people showing their dissatisfaction with the government after all there are a lot of oaps who cant take to the streets or farmers who are too busy it also stops never here kier branding people right wing thugs. Christ, it’s like an AI bot generating GBNews talking points "How do you come to that conclusion please explain. | |||
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"Signed by in excess of 2.8 million as it stands at the moment, in public Starmer tried to dismiss this huge indicator of discontentment with his administration but behind closed doors it must certainly give him and his supporters something to think about, Labour MP's will want to save their own necks first and foremost, so Starmer's position as party leader could be under serious consideration! " And the vast majority of signatures are from people residing on another continent. It's just another Elon Musk attempt to try and muscle in where he's not wanted. However, Kier Starmer, as always, will debate it in his usual calm and collected, non offensive manner. | |||
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"Funny how all these right wing gammons are suddenly attaching great weight to a petition. I seem to recall when there were petitions going round about brexit and a second referendum, everyone was told to get over it and accept the result!" As i said before I done think anyone is attaching any weight to it at all but its great to see all the people who were conned by Starmer getting upset by something that was probably started for a laugh. I'm looking forward to next week and see what his great reset is going to say,reset after 4months he must be worried. | |||
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"Funny how all these right wing gammons are suddenly attaching great weight to a petition. I seem to recall when there were petitions going round about brexit and a second referendum, everyone was told to get over it and accept the result!As i said before I done think anyone is attaching any weight to it at all but its great to see all the people who were conned by Starmer getting upset by something that was probably started for a laugh. I'm looking forward to next week and see what his great reset is going to say,reset after 4months he must be worried."Errrr i think you have the wrong end of the stick mate 
The reset is after 14 years of tory lies.
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"Funny how all these right wing gammons are suddenly attaching great weight to a petition. I seem to recall when there were petitions going round about brexit and a second referendum, everyone was told to get over it and accept the result!As i said before I done think anyone is attaching any weight to it at all but its great to see all the people who were conned by Starmer getting upset by something that was probably started for a laugh. I'm looking forward to next week and see what his great reset is going to say,reset after 4months he must be worried.
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The reset is after 14 years of tory lies.
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"Signed by in excess of 2.8 million as it stands at the moment, in public Starmer tried to dismiss this huge indicator of discontentment with his administration but behind closed doors it must certainly give him and his supporters something to think about, Labour MP's will want to save their own necks first and foremost, so Starmer's position as party leader could be under serious consideration! And the vast majority of signatures are from people residing on another continent. It's just another Elon Musk attempt to try and muscle in where he's not wanted. However, Kier Starmer, as always, will debate it in his usual calm and collected, non offensive manner. " Interesting any actual proof of that or did you make it up on the fly? | |||
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"So when Starmer says "if you dont like it, the door is open, you can leave". How do we do that exactly?" You don't not after Brexit anyway. We are all on our own now | |||
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"Signed by in excess of 2.8 million as it stands at the moment, in public Starmer tried to dismiss this huge indicator of discontentment with his administration but behind closed doors it must certainly give him and his supporters something to think about, Labour MP's will want to save their own necks first and foremost, so Starmer's position as party leader could be under serious consideration! This is proof of the stupidity of modern people who do not think just follow social media It is a total waste of time no government can achieve anything in 5 mins and to put things right may need unpleasant medicine no government is there to make popular decisions they are there to find long term solutions " 5 minutes? Been almost half a year now. | |||
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"So let’s say this petition gets 5 million signatures, or 10 million even. It will get talked about in Parliament. Then what? A vote there on having a new election? How’s that going to go? Does anyone actually think that with a majority of over 150 seats that the vote will go against the government and there will be a new election? Why people keep going on about the size of the petition bemuses me. It’s going to do nothing, and that’s a good thing. I’m not a labour supporter, but they won the election fair and square. Just because a bunch of sore losers don’t like the result doesn’t make it wrong or something that should be changed. That’s just how democracy works.I don't think anyone has claimed it will change anything or that it would.Its a good way of people showing their dissatisfaction with the government after all there are a lot of oaps who cant take to the streets or farmers who are too busy it also stops never here kier branding people right wing thugs. "I’d say that 18 odd million people voting for other parties at the election said that much better. | |||
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"Signed by in excess of 2.8 million as it stands at the moment, in public Starmer tried to dismiss this huge indicator of discontentment with his administration but behind closed doors it must certainly give him and his supporters something to think about, Labour MP's will want to save their own necks first and foremost, so Starmer's position as party leader could be under serious consideration! And the vast majority of signatures are from people residing on another continent. It's just another Elon Musk attempt to try and muscle in where he's not wanted. However, Kier Starmer, as always, will debate it in his usual calm and collected, non offensive manner. Interesting any actual proof of that or did you make it up on the fly? " Do your research, it's quite obvious. In fact glaringly so. | |||
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"So let’s say this petition gets 5 million signatures, or 10 million even. It will get talked about in Parliament. Then what? A vote there on having a new election? How’s that going to go? Does anyone actually think that with a majority of over 150 seats that the vote will go against the government and there will be a new election? Why people keep going on about the size of the petition bemuses me. It’s going to do nothing, and that’s a good thing. I’m not a labour supporter, but they won the election fair and square. Just because a bunch of sore losers don’t like the result doesn’t make it wrong or something that should be changed. That’s just how democracy works.I don't think anyone has claimed it will change anything or that it would.Its a good way of people showing their dissatisfaction with the government after all there are a lot of oaps who cant take to the streets or farmers who are too busy it also stops never here kier branding people right wing thugs.
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"Kemi Badenoch in 2019 in response to a stop Brexit petition from her constituents: “we run the country based on elections and not petitions”. Funny how she seems to have forgotten that. The "Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU" petition closed with over 6 million signatures." Is she a leading advocate of this petition. Not heard that she was. Could well believe Farage was behind it but not her. | |||
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"Signed by in excess of 2.8 million as it stands at the moment, in public Starmer tried to dismiss this huge indicator of discontentment with his administration but behind closed doors it must certainly give him and his supporters something to think about, Labour MP's will want to save their own necks first and foremost, so Starmer's position as party leader could be under serious consideration! And the vast majority of signatures are from people residing on another continent. It's just another Elon Musk attempt to try and muscle in where he's not wanted. However, Kier Starmer, as always, will debate it in his usual calm and collected, non offensive manner. " . Errrr, we are talking about Stutter Starmer. The twit who never answers a question | |||
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"Musk is doing his best to ferment civil war in the UK" He does not need to do that, there will be civil war in the UK within 15 years as the cultural clashes really mount up, already Welsh people being told not to walk there digs as it will offend antother culture. | |||
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"Signed by in excess of 2.8 million as it stands at the moment, in public Starmer tried to dismiss this huge indicator of discontentment with his administration but behind closed doors it must certainly give him and his supporters something to think about, Labour MP's will want to save their own necks first and foremost, so Starmer's position as party leader could be under serious consideration! And the vast majority of signatures are from people residing on another continent. It's just another Elon Musk attempt to try and muscle in where he's not wanted. However, Kier Starmer, as always, will debate it in his usual calm and collected, non offensive manner. . Errrr, we are talking about Stutter Starmer. The twit who never answers a question" leave are leader Alone he's is here to stay a few years yet so suck it up you Tories and it you are feeling the cold put a extra jumper on and take up knitting | |||
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"Signed by in excess of 2.8 million as it stands at the moment, in public Starmer tried to dismiss this huge indicator of discontentment with his administration but behind closed doors it must certainly give him and his supporters something to think about, Labour MP's will want to save their own necks first and foremost, so Starmer's position as party leader could be under serious consideration! And the vast majority of signatures are from people residing on another continent. It's just another Elon Musk attempt to try and muscle in where he's not wanted. However, Kier Starmer, as always, will debate it in his usual calm and collected, non offensive manner. . Errrr, we are talking about Stutter Starmer. The twit who never answers a question leave are leader Alone he's is here to stay a few years yet so suck it up you Tories and it you are feeling the cold put a extra jumper on and take up knitting " Well I am not a Tory, I can remember all incoming govts back to Clem Attlee's leadership, and this govt has to be the worst. It is so imcompetent it will be a miracle if it goes the the full five years, and the Country will be on it's knees by then | |||
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" Errrr, we are talking about Stutter Starmer. The twit who never answers a question" No need to be rude about people with speech impediments while you have a go at the Prime Minister is there? | |||
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"Signed by in excess of 2.8 million as it stands at the moment, in public Starmer tried to dismiss this huge indicator of discontentment with his administration but behind closed doors it must certainly give him and his supporters something to think about, Labour MP's will want to save their own necks first and foremost, so Starmer's position as party leader could be under serious consideration! And the vast majority of signatures are from people residing on another continent. It's just another Elon Musk attempt to try and muscle in where he's not wanted. However, Kier Starmer, as always, will debate it in his usual calm and collected, non offensive manner. . Errrr, we are talking about Stutter Starmer. The twit who never answers a question leave are leader Alone he's is here to stay a few years yet so suck it up you Tories and it you are feeling the cold put a extra jumper on and take up knitting Well I am not a Tory, I can remember all incoming govts back to Clem Attlee's leadership, and this govt has to be the worst. It is so imcompetent it will be a miracle if it goes the the full five years, and the Country will be on it's knees by then" it you hate the Labour party so much why do you wear red underwear | |||
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"Signed by in excess of 2.8 million as it stands at the moment, in public Starmer tried to dismiss this huge indicator of discontentment with his administration but behind closed doors it must certainly give him and his supporters something to think about, Labour MP's will want to save their own necks first and foremost, so Starmer's position as party leader could be under serious consideration! And the vast majority of signatures are from people residing on another continent. It's just another Elon Musk attempt to try and muscle in where he's not wanted. However, Kier Starmer, as always, will debate it in his usual calm and collected, non offensive manner. . Errrr, we are talking about Stutter Starmer. The twit who never answers a question leave are leader Alone he's is here to stay a few years yet so suck it up you Tories and it you are feeling the cold put a extra jumper on and take up knitting Well I am not a Tory, I can remember all incoming govts back to Clem Attlee's leadership, and this govt has to be the worst. It is so imcompetent it will be a miracle if it goes the the full five years, and the Country will be on it's knees by then" It may seem the worst to you with your very long memory but cast your mind back...there was no out and out hostile right wing media (OK apart from the Daily Heil), there was no 24 hour news reporting with media dogs ready to pounce on anything and everything, and most of all there was no Social Media to bang on about any new government. The Times They are a Changin'... | |||
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"Snowflakes who can't accept defeat.... Expecting instant results is the norm these days as well. Selective amnesia as per." Yes brexit is done and dusted | |||
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"Signed by in excess of 2.8 million as it stands at the moment, in public Starmer tried to dismiss this huge indicator of discontentment with his administration but behind closed doors it must certainly give him and his supporters something to think about, Labour MP's will want to save their own necks first and foremost, so Starmer's position as party leader could be under serious consideration! This is proof of the stupidity of modern people who do not think just follow social media It is a total waste of time no government can achieve anything in 5 mins and to put things right may need unpleasant medicine no government is there to make popular decisions they are there to find long term solutions 5 minutes? Been almost half a year now. " Barely 5 months, after 14 years of Tory misrule? It's not getting fixed overnight. Sadly this is the 'footballification' of our politics, no, we don't swap governments or PMs after 5 minutes like a team manager just because the results aren't going as we like! As for the petition, it's evidently filled with Russian bot signatories and Musk influenced lunatics, it deserves the lack of credence it is getting! People need to calm down, put their toys back in the pram and let the grown ups try to get on with fixing the shit we are in. Nobody said it'd be easy or quick or comfortable! | |||
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"Signed by in excess of 2.8 million as it stands at the moment, in public Starmer tried to dismiss this huge indicator of discontentment with his administration but behind closed doors it must certainly give him and his supporters something to think about, Labour MP's will want to save their own necks first and foremost, so Starmer's position as party leader could be under serious consideration! And the vast majority of signatures are from people residing on another continent. It's just another Elon Musk attempt to try and muscle in where he's not wanted. However, Kier Starmer, as always, will debate it in his usual calm and collected, non offensive manner. . Errrr, we are talking about Stutter Starmer. The twit who never answers a question leave are leader Alone he's is here to stay a few years yet so suck it up you Tories and it you are feeling the cold put a extra jumper on and take up knitting Well I am not a Tory, I can remember all incoming govts back to Clem Attlee's leadership, and this govt has to be the worst. It is so imcompetent it will be a miracle if it goes the the full five years, and the Country will be on it's knees by thenit you hate the Labour party so much why do you wear red underwear " So? when did it become compulsory to choose clothing on political lines, totally irrelavent personal remark | |||
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"Signed by in excess of 2.8 million as it stands at the moment, in public Starmer tried to dismiss this huge indicator of discontentment with his administration but behind closed doors it must certainly give him and his supporters something to think about, Labour MP's will want to save their own necks first and foremost, so Starmer's position as party leader could be under serious consideration! This is proof of the stupidity of modern people who do not think just follow social media It is a total waste of time no government can achieve anything in 5 mins and to put things right may need unpleasant medicine no government is there to make popular decisions they are there to find long term solutions 5 minutes? Been almost half a year now. Barely 5 months, after 14 years of Tory misrule? It's not getting fixed overnight. Sadly this is the 'footballification' of our politics, no, we don't swap governments or PMs after 5 minutes like a team manager just because the results aren't going as we like! As for the petition, it's evidently filled with Russian bot signatories and Musk influenced lunatics, it deserves the lack of credence it is getting! People need to calm down, put their toys back in the pram and let the grown ups try to get on with fixing the shit we are in. Nobody said it'd be easy or quick or comfortable! " ... ... Nailed it....👍 | |||
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"Signed by in excess of 2.8 million as it stands at the moment, in public Starmer tried to dismiss this huge indicator of discontentment with his administration but behind closed doors it must certainly give him and his supporters something to think about, Labour MP's will want to save their own necks first and foremost, so Starmer's position as party leader could be under serious consideration! And the vast majority of signatures are from people residing on another continent. It's just another Elon Musk attempt to try and muscle in where he's not wanted. However, Kier Starmer, as always, will debate it in his usual calm and collected, non offensive manner. . Errrr, we are talking about Stutter Starmer. The twit who never answers a question leave are leader Alone he's is here to stay a few years yet so suck it up you Tories and it you are feeling the cold put a extra jumper on and take up knitting Well I am not a Tory, I can remember all incoming govts back to Clem Attlee's leadership, and this govt has to be the worst. It is so imcompetent it will be a miracle if it goes the the full five years, and the Country will be on it's knees by thenit you hate the Labour party so much why do you wear red underwear So? when did it become compulsory to choose clothing on political lines, totally irrelavent personal remark" I think that if it was compulsory to wear only colours on political lines we'd all be wearing a rather peculiar shade of soft stool brown! 💩 | |||
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"Signed by in excess of 2.8 million as it stands at the moment, in public Starmer tried to dismiss this huge indicator of discontentment with his administration but behind closed doors it must certainly give him and his supporters something to think about, Labour MP's will want to save their own necks first and foremost, so Starmer's position as party leader could be under serious consideration! " So you voted for someone other than Labour. And ooooooh 2.something million people signed a petition. 4.2 million signed a petition within 48hrs calling for Article 50 (which took us out of the EU) to be rescinded. They were told "you lost - get over it". It's called democracy remember? You can oppose an elected government but you have to wait for your chance to vote the out. Them's the rules for everyone. NEXT! | |||
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"Signed by in excess of 2.8 million as it stands at the moment, in public Starmer tried to dismiss this huge indicator of discontentment with his administration but behind closed doors it must certainly give him and his supporters something to think about, Labour MP's will want to save their own necks first and foremost, so Starmer's position as party leader could be under serious consideration! And the vast majority of signatures are from people residing on another continent. It's just another Elon Musk attempt to try and muscle in where he's not wanted. However, Kier Starmer, as always, will debate it in his usual calm and collected, non offensive manner. . Errrr, we are talking about Stutter Starmer. The twit who never answers a question" As opposed to hiding in fridges in order to avoid even being asked questions in the first place? P.S Your stutter comment is still offensive by the way but you already knew this yet continue to use it anyway. | |||
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"Signed by in excess of 2.8 million as it stands at the moment, in public Starmer tried to dismiss this huge indicator of discontentment with his administration but behind closed doors it must certainly give him and his supporters something to think about, Labour MP's will want to save their own necks first and foremost, so Starmer's position as party leader could be under serious consideration! This is proof of the stupidity of modern people who do not think just follow social media It is a total waste of time no government can achieve anything in 5 mins and to put things right may need unpleasant medicine no government is there to make popular decisions they are there to find long term solutions 5 minutes? Been almost half a year now. Barely 5 months, after 14 years of Tory misrule? It's not getting fixed overnight. Sadly this is the 'footballification' of our politics, no, we don't swap governments or PMs after 5 minutes like a team manager just because the results aren't going as we like! As for the petition, it's evidently filled with Russian bot signatories and Musk influenced lunatics, it deserves the lack of credence it is getting! People need to calm down, put their toys back in the pram and let the grown ups try to get on with fixing the shit we are in. Nobody said it'd be easy or quick or comfortable! " grown up,s straight out of the labour go to buzz words book, it never fails to amuse me how people are influenced by buzz words politicians constantly repeat. | |||
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" grown up,s straight out of the labour go to buzz words book, it never fails to amuse me how people are influenced by buzz words politicians constantly repeat. "The term grown ups to signify people who know more, know better and have the power to actually to do something is hardly a Labour buzz word. Although come to think of it, thats a fair description of the Labour government now with their massive majority & a mandate for the next 5 years. Pointless petitions and petty populism ain't going to dent that. Strap in and enjoy the ride folks.... | |||
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" grown up,s straight out of the labour go to buzz words book, it never fails to amuse me how people are influenced by buzz words politicians constantly repeat.
The term grown ups to signify people who know more, know better and have the power to actually to do something is hardly a Labour buzz word.
Although come to think of it, thats a fair description of the Labour government now with their massive majority & a mandate for the next 5 years.
Pointless petitions and petty populism ain't going to dent that.
Strap in and enjoy the ride folks....
"More like sit back and watch the shit show that will more than likely be the end of the labour party for another 14 years. Seems like the 1.5 million houses has been condemned by the local council consultation now surprise surprise | |||
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" The term grown ups to signify people who know more, know better and have the power to actually to do something is hardly a Labour buzz word. Although come to think of it, that's a fair description of the Labour government now with their massive majority & a mandate for the next 5 years. Pointless petitions and petty populism ain't going to dent that. Strap in and enjoy the ride folks.... " Labour have got a massive majority though not a massive mandate. A majority by default under our electoral system. Still we have to reluctantly accept it. Apart from a few people--mostly Faragista fanatics--most know full well this petition is going nowhere. It's a bit of a protest vote. Rather like an anti-war demonstration. You do it but know that no one in authority is going to take a blind bit of notice. There is hardly going to be a vote of no confidence in the government during this parliament. They only happen when governments do not have a majority of MPs. As for enjoying the ride I doubt many of us will. A case of putting up with and making the best of a bad job. | |||
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"Musk is doing his best to ferment civil war in the UK He does not need to do that, there will be civil war in the UK within 15 years as the cultural clashes really mount up, already Welsh people being told not to walk there digs as it will offend antother culture. " That's kind of the point. As per Bannon's ideas, social media is awash with Russian funded/generated "talking points" designed to ferment anger and create factions. Putin is doing a fine job of destabilising the West to strengthen his position. All those "patriots" are doing Putin's work every time they get taken in by the latest thing they are told to be angry about. | |||
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"Musk is doing his best to ferment civil war in the UK He does not need to do that, there will be civil war in the UK within 15 years as the cultural clashes really mount up, already Welsh people being told not to walk there digs as it will offend antother culture. That's kind of the point. As per Bannon's ideas, social media is awash with Russian funded/generated "talking points" designed to ferment anger and create factions. Putin is doing a fine job of destabilising the West to strengthen his position. All those "patriots" are doing Putin's work every time they get taken in by the latest thing they are told to be angry about. " Can't people be angry without some "bot " telling people,what makes you so cynical that you don't think people can think for themselves can't you? | |||
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