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The killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson

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By *tar33 OP   Man
6 weeks ago

North London (outer)

A very interesting case, suggestions are being made that his shooting may be connected to the difficulties faced by many Americans when it comes to medical treatment and health insurance.

Police believe the gun used to carry out the shooting is a B&T Station SIX gun, a modern version of the British Welrod spy pistol used during World War Two. The killer also used a silencer.

Police are also testing three bullet casings - which had the words "deny", "defend" and "depose" written on them - and three live rounds found at the scene for DNA.

In some ways this reminds me of Day of the Jackal.

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By *ikxMan
6 weeks ago

Blackpool

I suppose you could say that about it reminding you of the Day Of The Jackal but for the fact that this shooting seems idealogical

The Jackal has no such scruples. He just kills anyone, for money.

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By *tar33 OP   Man
6 weeks ago

North London (outer)


"I suppose you could say that about it reminding you of the Day Of The Jackal but for the fact that this shooting seems idealogical

The Jackal has no such scruples. He just kills anyone, for money. "

It was something about his calm demeanor and escape that reminded me of him, along with the fact I've been watching the DoJ remake on Sky, one of his victims being a similar high-level businessman.

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By *tar33 OP   Man
5 weeks ago

North London (outer)

Moving on, Luigi Mangione the 28-year-old member of a prominent Maryland family who came top of his class at an elite private school before graduating from an Ivy League college, has been arrested and charged with murder.

According to a law enforcement bulletin seen by US media, Mr Mangione was allegedly motivated by resentment at what he called "parasitic" health insurance companies.

He had spent time in a surfing community in Hawaii, but left owing to debilitating back pain, say those who remember him. It is unclear, however, to what extent his own health troubles shaped his views of the medical industry.

He was arrested on Monday at a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania, and was allegedly in possession of a gun, bullets, multiple fake IDs and cash.

Mr Mangione also had a handwritten document that expressed "ill will" towards corporate America and included passages such as "frankly, these parasites had it coming", according to police.

Investigators say the words "deny", "defend" and "depose" were written on shell casings found at the scene of Mr Thompson's murder.

Law enforcement sources say this may be a reference to the "three Ds of insurance" - tactics used by companies to reject payment claims by patients.

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By *ara JevoTV/TS
5 weeks ago

Bristol East

Gotta say the on-line fawning of someone suspected of cold-blooded murder leaves me, well, um, a bit cold tbh

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By *tar33 OP   Man
5 weeks ago

North London (outer)


"Gotta say the on-line fawning of someone suspected of cold-blooded murder leaves me, well, um, a bit cold tbh"

That's part of what makes this so bizarre. I can understand why people are so pissed off with being treated so badly by the whole US healthcare and insurance industry, but shooting the CEO isn't the way to go about things.

If nothing else it really outlines the difference between healthcare in the USA compared to most other parts of the world.

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By *leepflowerMan
5 weeks ago

Leek


"Gotta say the on-line fawning of someone suspected of cold-blooded murder leaves me, well, um, a bit cold tbh

That's part of what makes this so bizarre. I can understand why people are so pissed off with being treated so badly by the whole US healthcare and insurance industry, but shooting the CEO isn't the way to go about things.

If nothing else it really outlines the difference between healthcare in the USA compared to most other parts of the world."

It also outlines the American obsession with guns.

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By *tephen_b50Man
5 weeks ago

Bristol


"I can understand why people are so pissed off with being treated so badly by the whole US healthcare and insurance industry, but shooting the CEO isn't the way to go about things.

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Hmm. Thompson is not just any old CEO. He's no figurehead. From what I read he took a bold innovative approach to his company's policies and boosted United Healthcare's rejection rate on claims from 8% to around 30%. United Health made $74 billion in revenue last quarter. He was of course hailed as a financial wizard on Wall St, and richly rewarded for it.

In the US, people pay thousands a month for insurance that they're terrified to make claim on, because insurers, having taken their money for years, simply refuse to pay up on part or all of the claim. Not because it's justified, but because they can.

Insurers know very well that once people start making claims, they're sick, exhausted, and probably in debilitating pain, and they probably aren't going to be fit to fight what is an act of blatant fraud. So they just keep knocking the claims back.

The insurers don't want the claimants claimants to die, obviously. Not until they've squeezed all the juice out of them by bankrupting them. But sick people living a life in agony, undergoing further medical treatments that the insurers refuse to pay for, while wondering how long they have left and looking forward to a visit from the Reaper as a merciful release? That's just fine.

I don't endorse any act of murder. It is wrong and should receive the appropriate punishment. But it's hard to argue that Brian Thompson, the scumbag's scumbag, is any loss to anyone, apart from the shareholders of United Healthcare and possibly his family. And he'd probably have sold them into a life of living hell too, if there was a buck in it for him.

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By *hiteroseMan
5 weeks ago

Neverwhere

It may perhaps focus the minds of top execs across the corporate spectrum.

To make millions/billions on the back of payments made into health care provision whilst simultaneously denying treatment to claimants is deeply immoral.

I have no such sympathies for the victim.

Send me all the hate mail you want. It will say more about you than me.

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By *alterP888Man
5 weeks ago

Bridlington North

But will they manage to find a jury that will convict?

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By *inkybi99Man
5 weeks ago

Edinburgh

Theyre not so worried about the assassination, they're worried it will start a trend.

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By *dambi00Man
5 weeks ago

Leicester

I don’t sympathise with the CEO at all, he skyrocketed United healthcares rate of denial claims from 9% to 34% in 5 years, and he’s indirectly involved with hundreds, if not thousands, of deaths just so they can continue making record profits (from $12bn to $16bn a year).

However, of course he didn’t deserve to be killed, if anything, I blame the US government because they don’t do anything to punish these companies and execs that cause harm and deaths just so they can continue to make record profits, similarly how no one was punished for the 2009 recession

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By (user no longer on site)
5 weeks ago

Seems a McDonald's staff member more alert than the FBI..police etc..

Saw through his face mask..very observant..

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By *amsoonMan
5 weeks ago

stornoway

Anyone else seen the x rays of the spikes in his back? He's obviously had some strange surgery. Not sure if they are real pics or AI.

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By *umdumpster2Man
5 weeks ago

Maidenhead


"I don’t sympathise with the CEO at all, he skyrocketed United healthcares rate of denial claims from 9% to 34% in 5 years, and he’s indirectly involved with hundreds, if not thousands, of deaths just so they can continue making record profits (from $12bn to $16bn a year).

However, of course he didn’t deserve to be killed, if anything, I blame the US government because they don’t do anything to punish these companies and execs that cause harm and deaths just so they can continue to make record profits, similarly how no one was punished for the 2009 recession "

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By *umdumpster2Man
5 weeks ago

Maidenhead


"I can understand why people are so pissed off with being treated so badly by the whole US healthcare and insurance industry, but shooting the CEO isn't the way to go about things.

Hmm. Thompson is not just any old CEO. He's no figurehead. From what I read he took a bold innovative approach to his company's policies and boosted United Healthcare's rejection rate on claims from 8% to around 30%. United Health made $74 billion in revenue last quarter. He was of course hailed as a financial wizard on Wall St, and richly rewarded for it.

In the US, people pay thousands a month for insurance that they're terrified to make claim on, because insurers, having taken their money for years, simply refuse to pay up on part or all of the claim. Not because it's justified, but because they can.

Insurers know very well that once people start making claims, they're sick, exhausted, and probably in debilitating pain, and they probably aren't going to be fit to fight what is an act of blatant fraud. So they just keep knocking the claims back.

The insurers don't want the claimants claimants to die, obviously. Not until they've squeezed all the juice out of them by bankrupting them. But sick people living a life in agony, undergoing further medical treatments that the insurers refuse to pay for, while wondering how long they have left and looking forward to a visit from the Reaper as a merciful release? That's just fine.

I don't endorse any act of murder. It is wrong and should receive the appropriate punishment. But it's hard to argue that Brian Thompson, the scumbag's scumbag, is any loss to anyone, apart from the shareholders of United Healthcare and possibly his family. And he'd probably have sold them into a life of living hell too, if there was a buck in it for him. "

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By *tar33 OP   Man
5 weeks ago

North London (outer)


"Gotta say the on-line fawning of someone suspected of cold-blooded murder leaves me, well, um, a bit cold tbh

That's part of what makes this so bizarre. I can understand why people are so pissed off with being treated so badly by the whole US healthcare and insurance industry, but shooting the CEO isn't the way to go about things.

If nothing else it really outlines the difference between healthcare in the USA compared to most other parts of the world.

It also outlines the American obsession with guns. "

I don't think that gun culture is the main issue here, there are hundreds of firearms incidents every day and this wasn't a mass shooting in a school.

The effect this is already having is to shine a giant spotlight on the US healthcare system, and the giant profits they are making out of people's misery. United Healthcare also spend millions on lobbying and donations to both major political parties, so I can't see any great change coming soon.

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By *oxtrot1471Man
5 weeks ago

oxford


"Gotta say the on-line fawning of someone suspected of cold-blooded murder leaves me, well, um, a bit cold tbh"

As his company's standard practice was to deny 90% of claims even though people paid most of their life into it.

I don't know the CEO's body count through his actions as the man in charge but i bet it's greater than one.

I shan't morning his passing

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By *oxtrot1471Man
5 weeks ago

oxford


"Gotta say the on-line fawning of someone suspected of cold-blooded murder leaves me, well, um, a bit cold tbh

That's part of what makes this so bizarre. I can understand why people are so pissed off with being treated so badly by the whole US healthcare and insurance industry, but shooting the CEO isn't the way to go about things.

If nothing else it really outlines the difference between healthcare in the USA compared to most other parts of the world."

Yep he was just obeying orders🙄

You know the difference between this guy and Himmler?

Himmler did not jist do it for the money.

This guy took everything from thousands of people.

Imagine the person you love the most being told they will no longer get the medication to keep them alive.

People go medically bankrupt trying to keep their loved ones alive everything is taken off them to pay the bill that the insurance company should be paying.

He made a fortune on human misery and suffering.

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By *oxtrot1471Man
5 weeks ago

oxford


"Theyre not so worried about the assassination, they're worried it will start a trend."

Gives new meaning to the phrase headhunting a CEO

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By *3versMan
5 weeks ago

glasgow


"Gotta say the on-line fawning of someone suspected of cold-blooded murder leaves me, well, um, a bit cold tbh"

Shot the guy in the back too, isn't that the height of cowardice, but he's got abs so that makes him a hero to some

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By *lexieMan
5 weeks ago

Just north of Southampton


"I can understand why people are so pissed off with being treated so badly by the whole US healthcare and insurance industry, but shooting the CEO isn't the way to go about things.

Hmm. Thompson is not just any old CEO. He's no figurehead. From what I read he took a bold innovative approach to his company's policies and boosted United Healthcare's rejection rate on claims from 8% to around 30%. United Health made $74 billion in revenue last quarter. He was of course hailed as a financial wizard on Wall St, and richly rewarded for it.

In the US, people pay thousands a month for insurance that they're terrified to make claim on, because insurers, having taken their money for years, simply refuse to pay up on part or all of the claim. Not because it's justified, but because they can.

Insurers know very well that once people start making claims, they're sick, exhausted, and probably in debilitating pain, and they probably aren't going to be fit to fight what is an act of blatant fraud. So they just keep knocking the claims back.

The insurers don't want the claimants claimants to die, obviously. Not until they've squeezed all the juice out of them by bankrupting them. But sick people living a life in agony, undergoing further medical treatments that the insurers refuse to pay for, while wondering how long they have left and looking forward to a visit from the Reaper as a merciful release? That's just fine.

I don't endorse any act of murder. It is wrong and should receive the appropriate punishment. But it's hard to argue that Brian Thompson, the scumbag's scumbag, is any loss to anyone, apart from the shareholders of United Healthcare and possibly his family. And he'd probably have sold them into a life of living hell too, if there was a buck in it for him. "

Wow... that's discusding! And people trying to promoge that sort of healthcard in the UK! Let's hope a few more CEO's of similar healthcare co's are looking over their shoulders!

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By *lexieMan
5 weeks ago

Just north of Southampton


"Gotta say the on-line fawning of someone suspected of cold-blooded murder leaves me, well, um, a bit cold tbh

As his company's standard practice was to deny 90% of claims even though people paid most of their life into it.

I don't know the CEO's body count through his actions as the man in charge but i bet it's greater than one.

I shan't morning his passing "

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By *even333Man
5 weeks ago

Birmingham

Fascinating how 3D printers could become the new armourer for criminals/the underworld.

Understandable how many could think the victim was 'immoral or amoral' but that doesn't change the fact that he has loved ones who lost him and he was just doing his job. Unfortunately within the capitalist system that is a role many have limited options but to undertake.

And he will just be replaced relatively easily so ultimately his assassination is of no consequence. The protagonist was ultimately bitter about his own personal experiences which are arguably the key motive rather than some pretentious, deluded self-justification of committing an altruistic act for the 'common good'.

I'm sure his family are disgusted and ashamed by his actions.

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By *ichey6Man
5 weeks ago

aberdeen


"Gotta say the on-line fawning of someone suspected of cold-blooded murder leaves me, well, um, a bit cold tbh

That's part of what makes this so bizarre. I can understand why people are so pissed off with being treated so badly by the whole US healthcare and insurance industry, but shooting the CEO isn't the way to go about things.

If nothing else it really outlines the difference between healthcare in the USA compared to most other parts of the world.

It also outlines the American obsession with guns. "

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One is reminded of 'If God made man they say, Sam Colt made him equal'🤔

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