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"I saw a headline in the Bristol Post about people who own these big posh cars - cars? they're the size of small trucks! - having to pay thousands of £s more to put their monsters on the road. My motorcycle is going up to £117 a year." It’s about pollution rather than size. The ones that are going to cost thousands are the biggest polluters. Cars that produce more than 76g/km of CO2 will face the highest charges and rightly so. | |||
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"Just another tax for the struggling working class people " How are you defining working class people? Do they have to pay more than middle class people with an identical vehicle? | |||
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"Just another tax for the struggling working class people How are you defining working class people? Do they have to pay more than middle class people with an identical vehicle?" Let me guess - farmers are exempt? | |||
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"Ah, 'tis true - you couldn't make it up! Farm vehicles that use public roads are EXEMPT from vehicle excise duty. These millionaires aint half rigged the system in their favour. " In fairness those vehicles spend very little time on the roads. They mainly travel short distances between fields. | |||
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"Ah, 'tis true - you couldn't make it up! Farm vehicles that use public roads are EXEMPT from vehicle excise duty. These millionaires aint half rigged the system in their favour. " Tractors are exempt but farmers pay road tax on ALL other vehicles | |||
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"I had to look up my own emissions - 139g/km from a 955cc engine. £117 a year." I only checked the details for cars. For cars, the higher charges are entirely emissions based. I suppose now EVs are (quite rightly) subject to the tax, they can’t really claim it’s an emissions based tax any more, but certainly the higher charges you referred to are down to emissions, especially for cars. Also, all cars, including EVs, registered from April 1st 2025 that have a list price of over £40k are subject to the expensive car tax. | |||
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"I could take my bike out once a year on the road - and I'd still need to pay the tax. They could take their vehicle on the road every day - and yet they pay no tax whatsoever. Yet here they are, whinging about needing to keep their perks. " True, but the vast majority of people don’t take their cars or motorcycles out only once a year. I have 2 cars but one hardly moves off the drive. I still have to pay the full tax on it due to the rare occasion when I use it. And most farm vehicles don’t go onto the road every day. I suppose the government are working on averages and probabilities. | |||
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"Ah, 'tis true - you couldn't make it up! Farm vehicles that use public roads are EXEMPT from vehicle excise duty. These millionaires aint half rigged the system in their favour. Tractors are exempt but farmers pay road tax on ALL other vehicles" Here are the exemptions: tractors agricultural engines light agricultural vehicles used off-road ‘limited use’ vehicles used for short journeys (no more than 1.5km) on a public road between land that’s used by the same person | |||
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"So all these tractors that drove into the centre of London and clogged up the city centre roads for several hours last week had paid ZERO tax? " Correct. But they don’t do that every day do they? | |||
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"So all these tractors that drove into the centre of London and clogged up the city centre roads for several hours last week had paid ZERO tax? Correct. But they don’t do that every day do they?" Meanwhile, those who DO pay tax were held up in traffic jams by millionaires riding vehicles EXEMPT from tax - demanding they should be EXEMPT from other taxes too. They can get tae fuck! W*nkers. | |||
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"I wonder how many other taxes they've wangled an exemption from?" Okay so you hate farmers. No doubt you don't eat food unless, of course, it is imported. Last year I stayed at my sister's farm for two months as she had to have a major operation. I never participated in any farming as such [fed the cats and dogs] but I did sort out her tax returns ready for the accountant and I taxed all her vehicles. She paid full tax on her car and Landrover. The 3 tractors were exempt but they rarely travel more than half a mile on a public country lane between fields. | |||
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"So all these tractors that drove into the centre of London and clogged up the city centre roads for several hours last week had paid ZERO tax? Correct. But they don’t do that every day do they? Meanwhile, those who DO pay tax were held up in traffic jams by millionaires riding vehicles EXEMPT from tax - demanding they should be EXEMPT from other taxes too. They can get tae fuck! W*nkers." This is a totally different issue. I agree they were wrong to do that. But the tax issue is entirely separate. | |||
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"So all these tractors that drove into the centre of London and clogged up the city centre roads for several hours last week had paid ZERO tax? Correct. But they don’t do that every day do they? Meanwhile, those who DO pay tax were held up in traffic jams by millionaires riding vehicles EXEMPT from tax - demanding they should be EXEMPT from other taxes too. They can get tae fuck! W*nkers." I think the tractor drivers should have been prosecuted for it, as the JSO protestors were. | |||
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" Okay so you hate farmers." I don't like multi-millionaires bleating about having to pay the same taxes as the rest of the population. | |||
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" Okay so you hate farmers. I don't like multi-millionaires bleating about having to pay the same taxes as the rest of the population. " You are basically talking about the Clarksons and Dysons and other very rich people who have invested their fortune in land and now call themselves farmers. The vast majority of ordinary farmers may be 'asset rich' but not so in day to day life. Plus they pay taxes like everyone else. | |||
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"Are electric vehicles effected?" I believe electric vehicles will have to pay road tax from next April. | |||
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"I Blame William Pitt xxx " The Younger or Elder? Mx | |||
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"I Blame William Pitt xxx The Younger or Elder? Mx " younger chancellor at 23 pm at 24 son of William Pitt the older xxx | |||
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"Just another tax for the struggling working class people " Ah yes, middle class and upper class people famously don't need to pay taxes on their cars. | |||
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"I had to look up my own emissions - 139g/km from a 955cc engine. £117 a year." My emissions are 122g/km, not bad for an old dinosaur. I do actually mean my 1100v4 engine- honest | |||
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"Just another tax for the struggling working class people " On their new cars | |||
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"I Blame William Pitt xxx The Younger or Elder? Mx younger chancellor at 23 pm at 24 son of William Pitt the older xxx " Personally I think it was the men who carried the red flags in front of the old jalopies that caused it all, another illuminati. Mx | |||
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"So all these tractors that drove into the centre of London and clogged up the city centre roads for several hours last week had paid ZERO tax? " Yep brilliant isn’t it | |||
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"No surprise the system is rigged in favour of millionaire property-owners - it was always thus in English law. " Oh I don't know. I expect all those Labour voting yummy mummies driving Tarquin and Tabitha the 200 yards to school, in their Chelsea Tractors, still have to pay road tax even if they do still claim family allowance and avoid paying as much tax as possible. | |||
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"No surprise the system is rigged in favour of millionaire property-owners - it was always thus in English law. Oh I don't know. I expect all those Labour voting yummy mummies driving Tarquin and Tabitha the 200 yards to school, in their Chelsea Tractors, still have to pay road tax even if they do still claim family allowance and avoid paying as much tax as possible." It's been rigged for centuries. The only people allowed to make laws in England were people who owned land. So the whole system developed around protecting their own interests. Along comes the working class to even things out and the land-owners start squealing about losing their perks. Heart-broken . . . | |||
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" Okay so you hate farmers. I don't like multi-millionaires bleating about having to pay the same taxes as the rest of the population. " You're conflating a multi millionaire with a working farmer, ( me) ...I pay my road tax, and my income tax just like everyone else ...I ain't no millionaire You can get tae fuck Walker | |||
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and why they're so poor they should be exempt from taxes that the rest of us pay | |||
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"Maybe avoid having your spokesman" My spokesman? Who's my spokesman? | |||
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"The person put up for telly interview during their protest in London, sitting on an estate they said was valued at £8 million. A multi-millionaire, bleating about having to pay tax and why the rest of us should carry on subsidising their wealth. " How are we subsidising their wealth? The value of the estate doesn’t equate to income, I’m sure they pay income tax etc on their income exactly as any other self employed person does . Really, green isn’t an attractive colour at all neither is the politics of envy. | |||
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"The person put up for telly interview during their protest in London, sitting on an estate they said was valued at £8 million. A multi-millionaire, bleating about having to pay tax and why the rest of us should carry on subsidising their wealth. How are we subsidising their wealth? The value of the estate doesn’t equate to income, I’m sure they pay income tax etc on their income exactly as any other self employed person does . Really, green isn’t an attractive colour at all neither is the politics of envy. " Because if they're not pay the tax that's due, the burden falls onto someone else to pay. The public finances are stressed out after a decade of overspending and tax avoidance - and up pops a plummy-voiced, t-clad multi-millionaire on the telly to complain about the rich losing their tax perks, against a backdrop of other multi-millionaires joy-riding in their tax-exempt vehicles on the streets of London. PR own goal. | |||
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"My old banger is 20 quid xxx "Heritage Classic car £0, but has to “pay” that and renew every year to be legal. | |||
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"I didn't realise they were growing gravy on their farms. " ... Live-stock cubes  | |||
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"Ah, 'tis true - you couldn't make it up! Farm vehicles that use public roads are EXEMPT from vehicle excise duty. These millionaires aint half rigged the system in their favour. In fairness those vehicles spend very little time on the roads. They mainly travel short distances between fields." ... Sheffield and Huddersfield? | |||
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"The person put up for telly interview during their protest in London, sitting on an estate they said was valued at £8 million. A multi-millionaire, bleating about having to pay tax and why the rest of us should carry on subsidising their wealth. " Well that gets us nowhere...who the hell is that .. and why is he my "spokesman?" | |||
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" Because if they're not pay the tax that's due, the burden falls onto someone else to pay. " Sigh.....they are paying their tax...every business has to deliver audited accounts every year, from which HMRC works out how much tax they are due to pay ....everyone contributes | |||
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"I had to look up my own emissions - 139g/km from a 955cc engine. £117 a year." Mines 1986 2 stroke what's the outcome🙈 | |||
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"I Blame William Pitt xxx The Younger or Elder? Mx younger chancellor at 23 pm at 24 son of William Pitt the older xxx Personally I think it was the men who carried the red flags in front of the old jalopies that caused it all, another illuminati. Mx " I'm laying the blame firmly on the accelerator of Dastardly & Mutley.. possibly PenelopePitStop too..( hhellpp.. hhellpp).. | |||
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" Because if they're not pay the tax that's due, the burden falls onto someone else to pay. Sigh.....they are paying their tax...every business has to deliver audited accounts every year, from which HMRC works out how much tax they are due to pay ....everyone contributes " income & corporation tax are disparate, is not the point that was raised the public anger is finding out about the farmers exemption from inheritance tax on land and property valued at millions when the rest of the population pays 40% on anything above £325,0000 Labour now closed this and the farmers have been protesting but not getting much public sympathy i guess they were referring to 'your spokesman' as the person that is the Public figure the farmers protesting have elected to represent them to be interviewd about their objection to now having to pay inheritance tax, whether or not you were involved in that election, unless you have a contrary opinion to being liable for the inheritance tax , then he is your spokesperson by default | |||
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"Just another tax for the struggling working class people How are you defining working class people? Do they have to pay more than middle class people with an identical vehicle?" No, but they have a lot less money to play with. Hope all those fools who voted liebour in are pleased with themselves. | |||
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"My old banger is 20 quid xxx "Is that an advert? I thought that was banned on here? | |||
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"Just another tax for the struggling working class people How are you defining working class people? Do they have to pay more than middle class people with an identical vehicle? No, but they have a lot less money to play with. Hope all those fools who voted liebour in are pleased with themselves. " Yep! The ridiculous good for nothing but themselves Tory party are out. Perfectly happy thanks. | |||
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"I saw a headline in the Bristol Post about people who own these big posh cars - cars? they're the size of small trucks! - having to pay thousands of £s more to put their monsters on the road. My motorcycle is going up to £117 a year. It’s about pollution rather than size. The ones that are going to cost thousands are the biggest polluters. Cars that produce more than 76g/km of CO2 will face the highest charges and rightly so." . It's about Starmer stealth tax and his lies | |||
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" It’s about pollution rather than size. The ones that are going to cost thousands are the biggest polluters. Cars that produce more than 76g/km of CO2 will face the highest charges and rightly so.. It's about Starmer stealth tax and his lies" Take a deep breath mate and leave Starmer alone...you are beginning to sound a bit obsessive for someone who would do unto others and all that. He's just a politician doing his best for the side that voted him in. It's a complex world but you have to admit it's a bit better than the shambles that are before? | |||
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"I had to look up my own emissions - 139g/km from a 955cc engine. £117 a year. I only checked the details for cars. For cars, the higher charges are entirely emissions based. I suppose now EVs are (quite rightly) subject to the tax, they can’t really claim it’s an emissions based tax any more, but certainly the higher charges you referred to are down to emissions, especially for cars. Also, all cars, including EVs, registered from April 1st 2025 that have a list price of over £40k are subject to the expensive car tax." Why EVs quite rightly? We paid more up front for zero emissions now charged the same as something that polutes... Yet the ICE (Internal Combustion Engine) cars get a break on fuel duty 15yrs on the trot It's about time we moved away from emmisions and paid per mile.. It won't be long now | |||
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"Just another tax for the struggling working class people How are you defining working class people? Do they have to pay more than middle class people with an identical vehicle? No, but they have a lot less money to play with. Hope all those fools who voted liebour in are pleased with themselves. Yep! The ridiculous good for nothing but themselves Tory party are out. Perfectly happy thanks. " Labour only got just over 4 years left. No different from the tories, Starmer won't be getting my vote next time. | |||
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"This government taxing the shit out of us again to pay for there waste of giving our tax money to foreign countries " Such as? | |||
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"I saw a headline in the Bristol Post about people who own these big posh cars - cars? they're the size of small trucks! - having to pay thousands of £s more to put their monsters on the road. My motorcycle is going up to £117 a year. It’s about pollution rather than size. The ones that are going to cost thousands are the biggest polluters. Cars that produce more than 76g/km of CO2 will face the highest charges and rightly so.. It's about Starmer stealth tax and his lies" Yawn 🥱 because the tories were so truthful.. How's the 40 new hospitals going? The 350 million a day for the NHS is great isn't it.. Ffs. | |||
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"This government taxing the shit out of us again to pay for there waste of giving our tax money to foreign countries Such as? " Syria. Whilst that poor war stricken country desperately needs help, it might be better to wait until a secure government was in place before handing out money that would be better used here at home. | |||
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"I saw a headline in the Bristol Post about people who own these big posh cars - cars? they're the size of small trucks! - having to pay thousands of £s more to put their monsters on the road. My motorcycle is going up to £117 a year. It’s about pollution rather than size. The ones that are going to cost thousands are the biggest polluters. Cars that produce more than 76g/km of CO2 will face the highest charges and rightly so.. It's about Starmer stealth tax and his lies Yawn 🥱 because the tories were so truthful.. How's the 40 new hospitals going? The 350 million a day for the NHS is great isn't it.. Ffs. " . Carry on whinging about the past. You know why that didn't complete. Doesn't justify the lies and corruption of the present government sending money around the world while allowing our vulnerable to suffer. Or the massive tax hikes to finance their handling out billions to unions after their election | |||
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"Putting aside all this crap about farmers. As a farmer myself it's heartwarming to see how you appreciate us putting food on your table for you and your family to eat.makes working 7 days a week truly worth while " Putting aside the 48% of food that is imported, it is heartwarming to see that the farmers enjoying being exempt from paying inheritance tax despite the loss to the public purse and inequality, do appreciate everything the rest of the population does to enable them to farm, the water supply, the people who maintain the security of the country and its infrastructure 24 hours a day, those that create the pesticides and drugs, the veterinary services, the fuel, electricity and machinery they use, the clothing they wear, the transport network, the health and education system... | |||
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