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"Unfortunately nothing like this surprises me. They lied to everyone else, why should these women be treated any differently? The "blackhole" excuse has long run out, but don't worry in about 3 years time they will be splashing YOUR cash to buy votes. I'll bet on student loans being cancelled to buy off the young voters. Anybody else want to make a prediction? " Are you ok about them giving a billion quid to councils to end homelessness? After all, everyone one says "we shouldn't give money to others if we still have our own people on the streets." | |||
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"Where are all the lefties supporting Hatmer's decisions? They were very active before the election. Hundreds of posts. They must be hanging their heads in shame and bewilderment." or they are at work. Or not glued to these forums like sad cases. | |||
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"Unfortunately nothing like this surprises me. They lied to everyone else, why should these women be treated any differently? The "blackhole" excuse has long run out, but don't worry in about 3 years time they will be splashing YOUR cash to buy votes. I'll bet on student loans being cancelled to buy off the young voters. Anybody else want to make a prediction? " Great idea to cancel student loans! I predict whatever they do, you'll be here to complain about it. | |||
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" Are you ok about them giving a billion quid to councils to end homelessness? After all, everyone one says "we shouldn't give money to others if we still have our own people on the streets." " The anti-boat people will be delighted - their forever calling for money to be spent on people already on the streets | |||
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"Where are all the lefties supporting Hatmer's decisions? They were very active before the election. Hundreds of posts. They must be hanging their heads in shame and bewilderment." Not at all, we realise that tough decisions have to be made and we're laughing at the idiots who seem to think things were much better when the last lot were still blaming Labour for there being no money after a worldwide crash 14 years ago. Maybe you can't hear us because you just listen to your little bubble. | |||
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" he has done it again he has cancelled the womemens wassbe monny" The shameful standards of basic English on display in these forums should be an embarrassment to people. | |||
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" Are you ok about them giving a billion quid to councils to end homelessness? After all, everyone one says "we shouldn't give money to others if we still have our own people on the streets." The anti-boat people will be delighted - their forever calling for money to be spent on people already on the streets " I bet that still find something wrong with it.  | |||
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"People's party my arse. Bunch of bare faced liars and when confronted roll out the old "this what we inherited bullshit.". The world is absolutely bonkers. Sorry for the rant. Oh, and it's free. Nothing is free. What did the Romans ever do for us......" I suppose they're just following the 14 years of liars we had in the Tory government, including the habitual liar they made their leader. People suddenly only care about liars now though... | |||
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"Where are all the lefties supporting Hatmer's decisions? They were very active before the election. Hundreds of posts. They must be hanging their heads in shame and bewilderment. Not at all, we realise that tough decisions have to be made and we're laughing at the idiots who seem to think things were much better when the last lot were still blaming Labour for there being no money after a worldwide crash 14 years ago. Maybe you can't hear us because you just listen to your little bubble." Are you laughing at the pensioners who are going to die because they're cold? I bet you can afford your heating. | |||
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"People's party my arse. Bunch of bare faced liars and when confronted roll out the old "this what we inherited bullshit.". The world is absolutely bonkers. Sorry for the rant. Oh, and it's free. Nothing is free. What did the Romans ever do for us...... I suppose they're just following the 14 years of liars we had in the Tory government, including the habitual liar they made their leader. People suddenly only care about liars now though..." They all lie unfortunately. But this lot lie and still blame the other side. No I don't know the answer but there's got to be something. The Monster Raving Loony Party, at least you kinda know what you're getting with them. Bonkers from the off. | |||
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"Unfortunately nothing like this surprises me. They lied to everyone else, why should these women be treated any differently? The "blackhole" excuse has long run out, but don't worry in about 3 years time they will be splashing YOUR cash to buy votes. I'll bet on student loans being cancelled to buy off the young voters. Anybody else want to make a prediction? " Yep Angela will be in charge and Rachel on a checkout in Aldi ….. | |||
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"People were led to believe things would be better and expected better. Instead, we get lies and hypocrisy. " Did you expect everything to get better in a few months? We had 10 years of austerity under the tories and then got liar Johnson. | |||
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"Where are all the lefties supporting Hatmer's decisions? They were very active before the election. Hundreds of posts. They must be hanging their heads in shame and bewilderment. Not at all, we realise that tough decisions have to be made and we're laughing at the idiots who seem to think things were much better when the last lot were still blaming Labour for there being no money after a worldwide crash 14 years ago. Maybe you can't hear us because you just listen to your little bubble. Are you laughing at the pensioners who are going to die because they're cold? I bet you can afford your heating. " Brings a new meaning to cold gammon on Boxing Day | |||
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"It's difficult to understand why anyone, no matter what the circumstances are, voting for any labor government. If you look at the life cycle of politics, it seems a natural cycle of labor and the Opposition getting into power, along with the same cycle of decline and wealth. It always seems to go that labor get in, destroy the countries economy and then the Tories or who ever come back and repair it. Then the labor gets in again and the same cycle of decline. You can follow the same routine with other countries. Look at Oz at the moment. The labor party got in and completely devastated the economy, the opposition came in and fixed and now the labor back in and the economy has gone through the floor boards. If anyone thinks the last pandemic and the war in Ukraine didn't cause this last economic decline is living in another world. But I would hate to have seen what would have happened if the labor party was in power when all that kicked off." You seem to have forgotten that under Blair and Brown the country had turn around the mess left by the tories. Then there was a worldwide crash. You can't say the pandemic ruin finances here if you can't accept the same thing happened back then. | |||
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"I've lost all faith in politics. As a right-winger, I'll happily admit labour was left a pile of shit to deal with. But clearly, Starmer and Reeves are out of their depth and the country does not feel more positive 6 months into this Labour government. Inflation figures up today. Yesterday, emoyment figures showed that there are fewer people working than before. Labour was meant to restore hope. It hasn't." Did you seriously think it would all change in 6 months? | |||
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"I've lost all faith in politics. As a right-winger, I'll happily admit labour was left a pile of shit to deal with. But clearly, Starmer and Reeves are out of their depth and the country does not feel more positive 6 months into this Labour government. Inflation figures up today. Yesterday, emoyment figures showed that there are fewer people working than before. Labour was meant to restore hope. It hasn't. Did you seriously think it would all change in 6 months? " it changed just as I thought it would, changed for the worse . | |||
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" Are you laughing at the pensioners who are going to die because they're cold? I bet you can afford your heating. " Pensioners are the wealthiest demographic in the UK. I'm sure if the climate gets a bit harsh for them, they can opt to spend a few more weeks cruising the Pacific Ocean. | |||
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"I've lost all faith in politics. As a right-winger, I'll happily admit labour was left a pile of shit to deal with. But clearly, Starmer and Reeves are out of their depth and the country does not feel more positive 6 months into this Labour government. Inflation figures up today. Yesterday, emoyment figures showed that there are fewer people working than before. Labour was meant to restore hope. It hasn't. Did you seriously think it would all change in 6 months? it changed just as I thought it would, changed for the worse ." What's worse for you? | |||
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" Are you laughing at the pensioners who are going to die because they're cold? I bet you can afford your heating. Pensioners are the wealthiest demographic in the UK. I'm sure if the climate gets a bit harsh for them, they can opt to spend a few more weeks cruising the Pacific Ocean."  if they shop in Waitrose instead of Aldi they don't need the WFA | |||
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"Unfortunately nothing like this surprises me. They lied to everyone else, why should these women be treated any differently? The "blackhole" excuse has long run out, but don't worry in about 3 years time they will be splashing YOUR cash to buy votes. I'll bet on student loans being cancelled to buy off the young voters. Anybody else want to make a prediction? Are you ok about them giving a billion quid to councils to end homelessness? After all, everyone one says "we shouldn't give money to others if we still have our own people on the streets." " No way, that money should be going on illegal immigrants oh wait it already is🤣 | |||
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" Are you laughing at the pensioners who are going to die because they're cold? I bet you can afford your heating. Pensioners are the wealthiest demographic in the UK. I'm sure if the climate gets a bit harsh for them, they can opt to spend a few more weeks cruising the Pacific Ocean. if they shop in Waitrose instead of Aldi they don't need the WFA" Mx
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" Are you laughing at the pensioners who are going to die because they're cold? I bet you can afford your heating. Pensioners are the wealthiest demographic in the UK. I'm sure if the climate gets a bit harsh for them, they can opt to spend a few more weeks cruising the Pacific Ocean." Can't believe the utter nonsense you talk unbelievable | |||
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" Are you laughing at the pensioners who are going to die because they're cold? I bet you can afford your heating. Pensioners are the wealthiest demographic in the UK. I'm sure if the climate gets a bit harsh for them, they can opt to spend a few more weeks cruising the Pacific Ocean. Can't believe the utter nonsense you talk unbelievable " Overall, 4.5% of Brits are millionaires but 27% of pensioners are millionaires. Reality. | |||
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"Look it up - pensioners are the wealthiest demographic in Britain" A very uneven spread amongst this demographic. | |||
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"Look it up - pensioners are the wealthiest demographic in Britain A very uneven spread amongst this demographic. " Which is why the WFA is to be means-tested. There is a fair point about whether the threshold for eligibility is set too low. But the idea that you and I need to subsidise millionaires with their leccy bills . . . nope, aint buying that one. | |||
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" There is a fair point about whether the threshold for eligibility is set too low. But the idea that you and I need to subsidise millionaires with their leccy bills . . . nope, aint buying that one. " Exactly. I’m not a millionaire (divorce saw to that) but I certainly don’t need help with bills so if I did get the benefit, I’d just be giving it to charity anyway. | |||
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"Maybe they should means test the state pension then. Make sure the poorest pensioners are ok." There is an argument for that but given most people plan their retirement funding decades in advance, it would need to be introduced very, very slowly to give people time to restructure their finances. | |||
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"It's difficult to understand why anyone, no matter what the circumstances are, voting for any labor government. If you look at the life cycle of politics, it seems a natural cycle of labor and the Opposition getting into power, along with the same cycle of decline and wealth. It always seems to go that labor get in, destroy the countries economy and then the Tories or who ever come back and repair it. Then the labor gets in again and the same cycle of decline. You can follow the same routine with other countries. Look at Oz at the moment. The labor party got in and completely devastated the economy, the opposition came in and fixed and now the labor back in and the economy has gone through the floor boards. If anyone thinks the last pandemic and the war in Ukraine didn't cause this last economic decline is living in another world. But I would hate to have seen what would have happened if the labor party was in power when all that kicked off. You seem to have forgotten that under Blair and Brown the country had turn around the mess left by the tories. Then there was a worldwide crash. You can't say the pandemic ruin finances here if you can't accept the same thing happened back then." Oh dear more misremembering of the facts | |||
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"Maybe they should means test the state pension then. Make sure the poorest pensioners are ok.There is an argument for that but given most people plan their retirement funding decades in advance, it would need to be introduced very, very slowly to give people time to restructure their finances." Public sector pension bill has gone up 7.4 billion in a single year. I'm not sure there is time for a slow approach. Things like asylum seeker costs have gone from 1.5 billion to 5.4 billion and rising. Forget rights and wrongs, we have to be honest about projections , where spend is rising. | |||
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"Unfortunately nothing like this surprises me. They lied to everyone else, why should these women be treated any differently? The "blackhole" excuse has long run out, but don't worry in about 3 years time they will be splashing YOUR cash to buy votes. I'll bet on student loans being cancelled to buy off the young voters. Anybody else want to make a prediction? Great idea to cancel student loans! I predict whatever they do, you'll be here to complain about it." On the contrary. I'm what was known as a floating voter, slightly to the right of center but with a very clear idea of what I believe to be social justice. I'm more than happy to agree that the tory government had to go and we needed change, Farage is a joke and the greens potentially dangerous. So what was left? Unfortunately we have labour at an all time low, they won because there was no other option. It's the first election that I can remember where people were voting against what they didn't want rather than voting for what they did want. And, so far, they have absolutely failed to impress. That is not just my opinion, have a good look at the news today. Inflation up again. More job losses. Winter fuel payments. Waspi women. Poor overseas reception. Slipping towards recession. Immigration getting worse. Crime rising. Hopefully they will get it right going forward but it's not looking good at the moment. | |||
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" Oh dear more misremembering of the facts " The other way round. Historically, the Tories have a history of a flurry of success followed by crashing the economy and Labour have a history of repairing the damage then getting sideswiped by something. Last time it was the sub prime crash when they were already unpopular over Iraq. It’s the same cycle in the US, Republicans rack up debt as they push money upwards away from ordinary people, Dems pay it off and boost the economy at all levels. | |||
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"Maybe they should means test the state pension then. Make sure the poorest pensioners are ok.There is an argument for that but given most people plan their retirement funding decades in advance, it would need to be introduced very, very slowly to give people time to restructure their finances. Public sector pension bill has gone up 7.4 billion in a single year. I'm not sure there is time for a slow approach. Things like asylum seeker costs have gone from 1.5 billion to 5.4 billion and rising. Forget rights and wrongs, we have to be honest about projections , where spend is rising. " There asylum costs are a own goal, the Tories stopped processing them to make a political point, costing the tax payer. Labour have already deported 10k (so much for the lie about needing to leave the ECHR) since getting in and are upping the processing rate. Those costs will come down. Do you have a reference re the public sector pension increase? | |||
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"Unfortunately nothing like this surprises me. They lied to everyone else, why should these women be treated any differently? The "blackhole" excuse has long run out, but don't worry in about 3 years time they will be splashing YOUR cash to buy votes. I'll bet on student loans being cancelled to buy off the young voters. Anybody else want to make a prediction? Great idea to cancel student loans! I predict whatever they do, you'll be here to complain about it. On the contrary. I'm what was known as a floating voter, slightly to the right of center but with a very clear idea of what I believe to be social justice. I'm more than happy to agree that the tory government had to go and we needed change, Farage is a joke and the greens potentially dangerous. So what was left? Unfortunately we have labour at an all time low, they won because there was no other option. It's the first election that I can remember where people were voting against what they didn't want rather than voting for what they did want. And, so far, they have absolutely failed to impress. That is not just my opinion, have a good look at the news today. Inflation up again. More job losses. Winter fuel payments. Waspi women. Poor overseas reception. Slipping towards recession. Immigration getting worse. Crime rising. Hopefully they will get it right going forward but it's not looking good at the moment. " 
After 14 years and a Pandemic it was never going to be an easy ride , time will tell if a new fairer more prudent government will evolve, also depending on the macro and micro economic conditions as we move forward globally in the Trump years through 2025 and onto 2026, then the bigger picture will be seen. Mx
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"Maybe they should means test the state pension then. Make sure the poorest pensioners are ok.There is an argument for that but given most people plan their retirement funding decades in advance, it would need to be introduced very, very slowly to give people time to restructure their finances. Public sector pension bill has gone up 7.4 billion in a single year. I'm not sure there is time for a slow approach. Things like asylum seeker costs have gone from 1.5 billion to 5.4 billion and rising. Forget rights and wrongs, we have to be honest about projections , where spend is rising. There asylum costs are a own goal, the Tories stopped processing them to make a political point, costing the tax payer. Labour have already deported 10k (so much for the lie about needing to leave the ECHR) since getting in and are upping the processing rate. Those costs will come down. Do you have a reference re the public sector pension increase?" It's on the CPS dot org website. Thing is, it is much more expensive to service these commitments compared to a couple of years ago. 2025 is looking like a contracting economy alongside increasing costs . Starmer will have to ride out a tough year. | |||
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"Unfortunately nothing like this surprises me. They lied to everyone else, why should these women be treated any differently? The "blackhole" excuse has long run out, but don't worry in about 3 years time they will be splashing YOUR cash to buy votes. I'll bet on student loans being cancelled to buy off the young voters. Anybody else want to make a prediction? Great idea to cancel student loans! I predict whatever they do, you'll be here to complain about it. On the contrary. I'm what was known as a floating voter, slightly to the right of center but with a very clear idea of what I believe to be social justice. I'm more than happy to agree that the tory government had to go and we needed change, Farage is a joke and the greens potentially dangerous. So what was left? Unfortunately we have labour at an all time low, they won because there was no other option. It's the first election that I can remember where people were voting against what they didn't want rather than voting for what they did want. And, so far, they have absolutely failed to impress. That is not just my opinion, have a good look at the news today. Inflation up again. More job losses. Winter fuel payments. Waspi women. Poor overseas reception. Slipping towards recession. Immigration getting worse. Crime rising. Hopefully they will get it right going forward but it's not looking good at the moment.
After 14 years and a Pandemic it was never going to be an easy ride , time will tell if a new fairer more prudent government will evolve, also depending on the macro and micro economic conditions as we move forward globally in the Trump years through 2025 and onto 2026, then the bigger picture will be seen. Mx
"Exactly. Anyone thinking this stuff is a quick fix is a simpleton. This sort of systemic damage will take years if not decades to recover from. My guess is Labour are getting the pain out the way now so by year 3/4 things will look much rosier and increase the chance of re-election. And Starmer needs to grow some charisma. | |||
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" It's on the CPS dot org website." That was 2013 due to the changes in contracting out that were introduced, very much historical. Plus, I wouldn’t trust the CPS much, a right wing think tank with the lowest grade of funding transparancy. | |||
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"I don't believe any housing costs, like the asylum costs, will come down in the near term. It's becoming more expensive to house people, all the cheap accommodation has been utilised. Demand is high and supply low." In the near term, agreed. This is more medium/long term. There’s a huge backlog to process. The benefits might kick in earlier though as statistically, immigrants tend to generate more GDP per head and claim less benefits than ‘home grown’ people so as they are brought into the workforce, we should see a lift. | |||
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"I don't believe any housing costs, like the asylum costs, will come down in the near term. It's becoming more expensive to house people, all the cheap accommodation has been utilised. Demand is high and supply low.In the near term, agreed. This is more medium/long term. There’s a huge backlog to process. The benefits might kick in earlier though as statistically, immigrants tend to generate more GDP per head and claim less benefits than ‘home grown’ people so as they are brought into the workforce, we should see a lift." So 2025 is definitely rising, and I simply don't believe it will get cheaper. If they do it will be a pleasant surprise. | |||
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" So 2025 is definitely rising, and I simply don't believe it will get cheaper. If they do it will be a pleasant surprise. " If they do it properly with proper checks and balances, it will take time, if they fast track it, they’ll be accused of letting criminals and rapists in unchecked. Damned if they do, damned if they don’t. I’m hoping they’ll do it properly. They’re recruiting heavily for staff to process claims and as noted earlier, are actively ejecting failed claimants. 2025 is very high risk with Putin being appeased by Trump and the Middle East/syria changes there may well be a new influx of people in need. | |||
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"I've lost all faith in politics. As a right-winger, I'll happily admit labour was left a pile of shit to deal with. But clearly, Starmer and Reeves are out of their depth and the country does not feel more positive 6 months into this Labour government. Inflation figures up today. Yesterday, emoyment figures showed that there are fewer people working than before. Labour was meant to restore hope. It hasn't. Did you seriously think it would all change in 6 months? " I really hoped the country would be recovering-it isn't. People are full of doom and gloom. People are losing confidence in this government and who can blame them? | |||
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"I've lost all faith in politics. As a right-winger, I'll happily admit labour was left a pile of shit to deal with. But clearly, Starmer and Reeves are out of their depth and the country does not feel more positive 6 months into this Labour government. Inflation figures up today. Yesterday, emoyment figures showed that there are fewer people working than before. Labour was meant to restore hope. It hasn't. Did you seriously think it would all change in 6 months? it changed just as I thought it would, changed for the worse . What's worse for you? " I actually don't know what's worse. The Conservatives deserved their beating. But Labour has spectacularly failed to impress. I do actually hope that with a bit more time they're plans and policies will have a positive impact. But they really have turned many people against them. | |||
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" I actually don't know what's worse. The Conservatives deserved their beating. But Labour has spectacularly failed to impress. I do actually hope that with a bit more time they're plans and policies will have a positive impact. But they really have turned many people against them." I tend to agree with you. It was inevitable that the Conservatives were going to be ousted, and probably deserved to be. I say that with some reticence as a life-long Conservative voter and one time active party member. I was prepared to give Starmer and co. the benefit of the doubt even if I could never support them. So far they have acted in a bit of an amateurish fashion and hit some of the worse off in society. Okay 6 months is not long to achieve anything positive but the signs are not looking good so far. | |||
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" So far they have acted in a bit of an amateurish fashion and hit some of the worse off in society.r." Are you thinking about the multi-millionaire land-owners who'd been dodging tax? Or the millionaire pensioners whose electric bills we'd been paying for? | |||
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"People's party my arse. Bunch of bare faced liars and when confronted roll out the old "this what we inherited bullshit.". The world is absolutely bonkers. Sorry for the rant. Oh, and it's free. Nothing is free. What did the Romans ever do for us...... I suppose they're just following the 14 years of liars we had in the Tory government, including the habitual liar they made their leader. People suddenly only care about liars now though... They all lie unfortunately. But this lot lie and still blame the other side. No I don't know the answer but there's got to be something. The Monster Raving Loony Party, at least you kinda know what you're getting with them. Bonkers from the off." I thought the monster raving looney party was rebranded as the labour party | |||
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"People's party my arse. Bunch of bare faced liars and when confronted roll out the old "this what we inherited bullshit.". The world is absolutely bonkers. Sorry for the rant. Oh, and it's free. Nothing is free. What did the Romans ever do for us...... I suppose they're just following the 14 years of liars we had in the Tory government, including the habitual liar they made their leader. People suddenly only care about liars now though... They all lie unfortunately. But this lot lie and still blame the other side. No I don't know the answer but there's got to be something. The Monster Raving Loony Party, at least you kinda know what you're getting with them. Bonkers from the off. I thought the monster raving looney party was rebranded as the labour party " No that's Reform UK you are mistaking a monster raving nutter ( Farage) for a an everyday loony.At least the Monster Raving Looney party was honest and non xenophobic and they just wanted lamp posts in power. And to give the vote to cats. Mx  | |||
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"I've lost all faith in politics. As a right-winger, I'll happily admit labour was left a pile of shit to deal with. But clearly, Starmer and Reeves are out of their depth and the country does not feel more positive 6 months into this Labour government. Inflation figures up today. Yesterday, emoyment figures showed that there are fewer people working than before. Labour was meant to restore hope. It hasn't. Did you seriously think it would all change in 6 months? I really hoped the country would be recovering-it isn't. People are full of doom and gloom. People are losing confidence in this government and who can blame them?" Can I suggest you read Jess Phillips book on how being an MP works? Quite the eye opener on what goes on behind the scenes in terms of planning, the processes of government and how long things take with all the checks and balances. Major shifts in the law of frameworks are still being discussed and analysed 6 months in. This big stuff takes time, careful planning and deep analysis of unexpected consequences. | |||
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" Oh dear more misremembering of the facts The other way round. Historically, the Tories have a history of a flurry of success followed by crashing the economy and Labour have a history of repairing the damage then getting sideswiped by something. Last time it was the sub prime crash when they were already unpopular over Iraq. It’s the same cycle in the US, Republicans rack up debt as they push money upwards away from ordinary people, Dems pay it off and boost the economy at all levels." I don’t doubt for one second you honestly believe this. | |||
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"It's difficult to understand why anyone, no matter what the circumstances are, voting for any labor government. If you look at the life cycle of politics, it seems a natural cycle of labor and the Opposition getting into power, along with the same cycle of decline and wealth. It always seems to go that labor get in, destroy the countries economy and then the Tories or who ever come back and repair it. Then the labor gets in again and the same cycle of decline. You can follow the same routine with other countries. Look at Oz at the moment. The labor party got in and completely devastated the economy, the opposition came in and fixed and now the labor back in and the economy has gone through the floor boards. If anyone thinks the last pandemic and the war in Ukraine didn't cause this last economic decline is living in another world. But I would hate to have seen what would have happened if the labor party was in power when all that kicked off." Dude. You can't even spell Labour. Another armchair economist. Jfc. | |||
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"Unfortunately nothing like this surprises me. They lied to everyone else, why should these women be treated any differently? The "blackhole" excuse has long run out, but don't worry in about 3 years time they will be splashing YOUR cash to buy votes. I'll bet on student loans being cancelled to buy off the young voters. Anybody else want to make a prediction? " Good spot. Add free movement with voting rights, plus migrant amnesty with voting rights. Anything to get a second term. This is Labour, its what the do | |||
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"Where are all the lefties supporting Hatmer's decisions? They were very active before the election. Hundreds of posts. They must be hanging their heads in shame and bewilderment. Not at all, we realise that tough decisions have to be made and we're laughing at the idiots who seem to think things were much better when the last lot were still blaming Labour for there being no money after a worldwide crash 14 years ago. Maybe you can't hear us because you just listen to your little bubble." Don’t forget the 22bn bill hole  | |||
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" he has done it again he has cancelled the womemens wassbe monny The shameful standards of basic English on display in these forums should be an embarrassment to people." Predictive text expect | |||
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"People's party my arse. Bunch of bare faced liars and when confronted roll out the old "this what we inherited bullshit.". The world is absolutely bonkers. Sorry for the rant. Oh, and it's free. Nothing is free. What did the Romans ever do for us...... I suppose they're just following the 14 years of liars we had in the Tory government, including the habitual liar they made their leader. People suddenly only care about liars now though..." An the 22bn black hole | |||
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"People's party my arse. Bunch of bare faced liars and when confronted roll out the old "this what we inherited bullshit.". The world is absolutely bonkers. Sorry for the rant. Oh, and it's free. Nothing is free. What did the Romans ever do for us...... I suppose they're just following the 14 years of liars we had in the Tory government, including the habitual liar they made their leader. People suddenly only care about liars now though... They all lie unfortunately. But this lot lie and still blame the other side. No I don't know the answer but there's got to be something. The Monster Raving Loony Party, at least you kinda know what you're getting with them. Bonkers from the off. I thought the monster raving looney party was rebranded as the labour party No that's Reform UK you are mistaking a monster raving nutter ( Farage) for a an everyday loony.At least the Monster Raving Looney party was honest and non xenophobic and they just wanted lamp posts in power. And to give the vote to cats. Mx "Spoken like a true Scot Nat  | |||
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"Well at Least Reform are very unlikely to shovel loads of money abroad in foreign aid etc. instead of using it for the people who have paid in over the years . The retirement women have a good point. They have paid in during their working lives, Luxury hotels for migrants who have yet to pay anything in. This is the kind of point that will win millions of votes for Reform." | |||
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"I've lost all faith in politics. As a right-winger, I'll happily admit labour was left a pile of shit to deal with. But clearly, Starmer and Reeves are out of their depth and the country does not feel more positive 6 months into this Labour government. Inflation figures up today. Yesterday, emoyment figures showed that there are fewer people working than before. Labour was meant to restore hope. It hasn't. Did you seriously think it would all change in 6 months? I really hoped the country would be recovering-it isn't. People are full of doom and gloom. People are losing confidence in this government and who can blame them?Can I suggest you read Jess Phillips book on how being an MP works? Quite the eye opener on what goes on behind the scenes in terms of planning, the processes of government and how long things take with all the checks and balances. Major shifts in the law of frameworks are still being discussed and analysed 6 months in. This big stuff takes time, careful planning and deep analysis of unexpected consequences. " Yes, Jess Philips, great author  | |||
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"Unfortunately nothing like this surprises me. They lied to everyone else, why should these women be treated any differently? The "blackhole" excuse has long run out, but don't worry in about 3 years time they will be splashing YOUR cash to buy votes. I'll bet on student loans being cancelled to buy off the young voters. Anybody else want to make a prediction? Great idea to cancel student loans! I predict whatever they do, you'll be here to complain about it. On the contrary. I'm what was known as a floating voter, slightly to the right of center but with a very clear idea of what I believe to be social justice. I'm more than happy to agree that the tory government had to go and we needed change, Farage is a joke and the greens potentially dangerous. So what was left? Unfortunately we have labour at an all time low, they won because there was no other option. It's the first election that I can remember where people were voting against what they didn't want rather than voting for what they did want. And, so far, they have absolutely failed to impress. That is not just my opinion, have a good look at the news today. Inflation up again. More job losses. Winter fuel payments. Waspi women. Poor overseas reception. Slipping towards recession. Immigration getting worse. Crime rising. Hopefully they will get it right going forward but it's not looking good at the moment. " I might suggest the Johnson/Corben choice was one where people voted for lesser of 2 evils…..!? | |||
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"It's difficult to understand why anyone, no matter what the circumstances are, voting for any labor government. If you look at the life cycle of politics, it seems a natural cycle of labor and the Opposition getting into power, along with the same cycle of decline and wealth. It always seems to go that labor get in, destroy the countries economy and then the Tories or who ever come back and repair it. Then the labor gets in again and the same cycle of decline. You can follow the same routine with other countries. Look at Oz at the moment. The labor party got in and completely devastated the economy, the opposition came in and fixed and now the labor back in and the economy has gone through the floor boards. If anyone thinks the last pandemic and the war in Ukraine didn't cause this last economic decline is living in another world. But I would hate to have seen what would have happened if the labor party was in power when all that kicked off. You seem to have forgotten that under Blair and Brown the country had turn around the mess left by the tories. Then there was a worldwide crash. You can't say the pandemic ruin finances here if you can't accept the same thing happened back then. Oh dear more misremembering of the facts " Perhaps enlighten me. | |||
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"Unfortunately nothing like this surprises me. They lied to everyone else, why should these women be treated any differently? The "blackhole" excuse has long run out, but don't worry in about 3 years time they will be splashing YOUR cash to buy votes. I'll bet on student loans being cancelled to buy off the young voters. Anybody else want to make a prediction? Good spot. Add free movement with voting rights, plus migrant amnesty with voting rights. Anything to get a second term. This is Labour, its what the do" All of which Starmer has ruled out so far. Keep up boy. | |||
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"the lunatics might take over the asylum." If people vote Reform next time, yes. | |||
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""Doing a Starmer" a phrase fairly new to the English language meaning to constantly lie through your teeth, to trick the electorate into voting for you to gain power, then to renege on every single promise you ever made and using the phrase "£20 billion black-hole" and "14 years of Tory rule" as a smokescreen in a failed attempt to disguise how pathetically incompetent you are as a premier! He's as transparent as Pilkington's best! We need rid of and rid of NOW! " Any reason you're implying this was a lie? Nothing to do with this mentioned in the 2024 Labour manifesto. Before Labour released it's manifesto Reeves implied this was never happening. It was mentioned in the lib dem manifesto. | |||
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""Doing a Starmer" a phrase fairly new to the English language meaning to constantly lie through your teeth, to trick the electorate into voting for you to gain power, then to renege on every single promise you ever made and using the phrase "£20 billion black-hole" and "14 years of Tory rule" as a smokescreen in a failed attempt to disguise how pathetically incompetent you are as a premier! He's as transparent as Pilkington's best! We need rid of and rid of NOW! " How has he lied if it wasn't in the labour manifesto since Corbyn was leader. How's those 40 new hospitals and brexit benefits coming along? | |||
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"Where are all the lefties supporting Hatmer's decisions? They were very active before the election. Hundreds of posts. They must be hanging their heads in shame and bewilderment. or they are at work. Or not glued to these forums like sad cases." Just generalising them as lefties shows a lack of political noise lol 😂😂 | |||
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"People were led to believe things would be better and expected better. Instead, we get lies and hypocrisy. " ...... .... Selective amnesia re tory administrations and how they acted over 14 years. Hypocrisy.😭 | |||
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""Doing a Starmer" a phrase fairly new to the English language meaning to constantly lie through your teeth, to trick the electorate into voting for you to gain power, then to renege on every single promise you ever made and using the phrase "£20 billion black-hole" and "14 years of Tory rule" as a smokescreen in a failed attempt to disguise how pathetically incompetent you are as a premier! He's as transparent as Pilkington's best! We need rid of and rid of NOW! " .... ... He was elected with a clear mandate to govern for five years. Every single party that has won power after being in opposition mentions what came before (14 years). Selective amnesia is however prevalent in the denigration of Starmer. Osborne and Cameron banged on did they not about the alleged mess they inherited from Brown? Johnson turned the telling of porkies into an art-form. Again amnesia as utter hypocrisy....'Doing a Spaffer'... That'll include the sheer ineptitude... Transparency. I give you the nastiness that is patently at the heart of Kemikaze. Whataboutery? For sure. It's the only way to illuminate the breathtaking hypocrisy that is SDS.... | |||
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"People were led to believe things would be better and expected better. Instead, we get lies and hypocrisy. ...... .... Selective amnesia re tory administrations and how they acted over 14 years. Hypocrisy.😭" Nonsense. I accept the Conservatives left the country in a mess. But when Marie Curie, a cancer charity, is stating it has to cut back its services to people with cancer to pay the new employers national insurance hike, it makes you wonder what labour is up to. | |||
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"People were led to believe things would be better and expected better. Instead, we get lies and hypocrisy. ...... .... Selective amnesia re tory administrations and how they acted over 14 years. Hypocrisy.😭 Nonsense. I accept the Conservatives left the country in a mess. But when Marie Curie, a cancer charity, is stating it has to cut back its services to people with cancer to pay the new employers national insurance hike, it makes you wonder what labour is up to." They are looking into making hospices exempt. Did you worry about full time nurses needing food banks last year because they'd had virtual payouts for 10 years? | |||
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"People were led to believe things would be better and expected better. Instead, we get lies and hypocrisy. ...... .... Selective amnesia re tory administrations and how they acted over 14 years. Hypocrisy.😭 Nonsense. I accept the Conservatives left the country in a mess. But when Marie Curie, a cancer charity, is stating it has to cut back its services to people with cancer to pay the new employers national insurance hike, it makes you wonder what labour is up to." ... .. If there is an exemption would it not be nonsensical to use hospices to argue that Labour are going out of there way to make things difficult for different components of society. If the country was left in a mess as you agree, is it unreasonable therefore to say difficult decisions inevitably would follow. Pragmatic decisions rather than ideology playing it's part as it did with the instigation of austerity? | |||
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"Where are all the lefties supporting Hatmer's decisions? They were very active before the election. Hundreds of posts. They must be hanging their heads in shame and bewilderment. or they are at work. Or not glued to these forums like sad cases." Why are you so interested in British politics anyway? | |||
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"Where are all the lefties supporting Hatmer's decisions? They were very active before the election. Hundreds of posts. They must be hanging their heads in shame and bewilderment. or they are at work. Or not glued to these forums like sad cases. Why are you so interested in British politics anyway?" .... ... The forum is open to our Irish friends. Clearly the man has an interest in politics in the same way others are interested in American politics. In a similar way, people comment on issues around CD's/TV's when they are gay or bi. This can be considered in terms of 'free speech'.🇮🇪 | |||
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" Are you laughing at the pensioners who are going to die because they're cold? I bet you can afford your heating. Pensioners are the wealthiest demographic in the UK. I'm sure if the climate gets a bit harsh for them, they can opt to spend a few more weeks cruising the Pacific Ocean. that comment from you is sadly not helpful and certainly not true ." Look it up - 27% of pensioners in this country are in the millionaire bracket. Someone in their 60s on average is 9x wealthier than someone in their 30s. The richest demographic in the country. | |||
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"Unfortunately nothing like this surprises me. They lied to everyone else, why should these women be treated any differently? The "blackhole" excuse has long run out, but don't worry in about 3 years time they will be splashing YOUR cash to buy votes. I'll bet on student loans being cancelled to buy off the young voters. Anybody else want to make a prediction? Are you ok about them giving a billion quid to councils to end homelessness? After all, everyone one says "we shouldn't give money to others if we still have our own people on the streets." " . No I'm not ok with that. I assume you mean the alleged building programme. So no being the policy now is to carve up even more greenfield dite due to it being cheaper I'm not happy with it. Ill thought-out and seriously damaging our ability to support our own population with food on future. We need a sensible thought out programme of redevelopment. Not leaving derelict sites to blight our towns | |||
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" There are many of us who worked all our lives, saved hard and paid off our mortgage, so we could have a comfortable retirement.It has now become harder to live on pensions due to the actions of the idiots in charge. " About 15% of pensioners are defined as living in poverty. The policy is intended to protect the poorest pensioners but it's a legitimate question as to whether the threshold is set too low. To be fair to Sir Keir, he said repeatedly that the wealthiest in society would do more of the heavy lifting when it came to repairing the public finances. Pensioners are the wealthiest demographic. I recall a pensioner on here who repeatedly boasted of his £43k pension income, his private health-care, his 2 homes, his foreign trips - and thought the rest of us should continue paying his electric bill. | |||
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" Are you laughing at the pensioners who are going to die because they're cold? I bet you can afford your heating. Pensioners are the wealthiest demographic in the UK. I'm sure if the climate gets a bit harsh for them, they can opt to spend a few more weeks cruising the Pacific Ocean. that comment from you is sadly not helpful and certainly not true . Look it up - 27% of pensioners in this country are in the millionaire bracket. Someone in their 60s on average is 9x wealthier than someone in their 30s. The richest demographic in the country. " Not looking for a argument here, but where have you got these figures from 27% of pensioners are in the millionare bracket - sorry but bollocks Someone in their 60s in 9x wealthier than someone in their 30s - well they prob dont have a mortgage, flash car, kids to feed/school/etc. Doubt its 9x , but obviously they dont have nowhere near as many outgoings guessing these figures are from some gov dept to try and make people think pensioners dont need any more money, even though the state pension is well below the minumum the gov expects people to live off | |||
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"We are not rich and it's a silly statement to say the majority of pensioners are millionaires. This idiot govnmt is hell bent on punishing people for being old." No-one has said the majority of pensioners are millionaires. The figure is about one in every four. | |||
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"Your wealth is defined by the total value of all your assets, not just by how much cash you have in the bank. It's always been thus. 27% of pensioners fall into the millionaire bracket, compared to 4.8% of the UK adult population as a whole." ok,Yes, it's in property, so please explain where we are going to live | |||
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"Your wealth is defined by the total value of all your assets, not just by how much cash you have in the bank. It's always been thus. 27% of pensioners fall into the millionaire bracket, compared to 4.8% of the UK adult population as a whole.ok,Yes, it's in property, so please explain where we are going to live" Beat me too it. I would love to hear the answers to this Plus i would love to hear where these pensioners are in the million pound plus houses, ive never seen one | |||
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"Your wealth is defined by the total value of all your assets, not just by how much cash you have in the bank. It's always been thus. 27% of pensioners fall into the millionaire bracket, compared to 4.8% of the UK adult population as a whole." Mostly by benefiting from property price increases. It's a valid issue when it comes to longer term. It's got feck all to do with day to day living. Average UK pension income is less than 14K yet the suggestion here is that they can go on cruises. | |||
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"People's party my arse. Bunch of bare faced liars and when confronted roll out the old "this what we inherited bullshit.". The world is absolutely bonkers. Sorry for the rant. Oh, and it's free. Nothing is free. What did the Romans ever do for us...... I suppose they're just following the 14 years of liars we had in the Tory government, including the habitual liar they made their leader. People suddenly only care about liars now though... They all lie unfortunately. But this lot lie and still blame the other side. No I don't know the answer but there's got to be something. The Monster Raving Loony Party, at least you kinda know what you're getting with them. Bonkers from the off. I thought the monster raving looney party was rebranded as the labour party No that's Reform UK you are mistaking a monster raving nutter ( Farage) for a an everyday loony.At least the Monster Raving Looney party was honest and non xenophobic and they just wanted lamp posts in power. And to give the vote to cats. Mx
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"Your wealth is defined by the total value of all your assets, not just by how much cash you have in the bank. It's always been thus. 27% of pensioners fall into the millionaire bracket, compared to 4.8% of the UK adult population as a whole.. Well adults under the age of 35 are hardly likely to have earned a million. House prices account for people wealth. So your percentages are totally misleading. Why should someone who worked over 50; years have to sell there home because they cannot live? What's point of working or even life itself, if we don't care for those who provided for us when we needed it. Such heartless view" Pensioners (non-liquid) asset rich, cash poor in many cases | |||
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". 27% of pensioners fall into the millionaire bracket, compared to 4.8% of the UK adult population as a whole.. Well adults under the age of 35 are hardly likely to have earned a million. House prices account for people wealth. So your percentages are totally misleading. w" No they're not. Pensioners are the richest demographic in the UK. Over one in four fall into the millionaire bracket, compared to less than 1 in 20 for the population as a whole. Sir Keir always said the wealthiest would need to do more of the heavy lifting to repair the public finances, and he's been true to his word. Multi-millionaire land-owners losing their state-funded freebies, millionaire pensioners losing their state-funded freebies. | |||
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"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies. Marx (Groucho)." 😂😂😂😂 Mx | |||
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". 27% of pensioners fall into the millionaire bracket, compared to 4.8% of the UK adult population as a whole.. Well adults under the age of 35 are hardly likely to have earned a million. House prices account for people wealth. So your percentages are totally misleading. w No they're not. Pensioners are the richest demographic in the UK. Over one in four fall into the millionaire bracket, compared to less than 1 in 20 for the population as a whole. Sir Keir always said the wealthiest would need to do more of the heavy lifting to repair the public finances, and he's been true to his word. Multi-millionaire land-owners losing their state-funded freebies, millionaire pensioners losing their state-funded freebies. " Where did you read that? The Guardian? The Mirror? The [far from] Independent? Or was it Chairman Keir's Little Red Book of Lies? | |||
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"Give the woman their due compensation by withdrawing benefits from the illegal boat people. "They are not illegal, neither are they able to claim benefits. So much for that harebrained scheme. Where dya find that? In the Daily Mail comic? | |||
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". Where did you read that? The Guardian? The Mirror? The [far from] Independent? Or was it Chairman Keir's Little Red Book of Lies?" The only people affected by the policy change to Inheritance Tax exemptions are people whose estates are worth millions of £s. | |||
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". Where did you read that? The Guardian? The Mirror? The [far from] Independent? Or was it Chairman Keir's Little Red Book of Lies? The only people affected by the policy change to Inheritance Tax exemptions are people whose estates are worth millions of £s." | |||
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"Give the woman their due compensation by withdrawing benefits from the illegal boat people.
They are not illegal, neither are they able to claim benefits. So much for that harebrained scheme. Where dya find that? In the Daily Mail comic?" | |||
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"PM, after running the Justice system, is the 2nd time that this arse has had at ruining this Country. He ran the Judicial system by taking away justice from the victims and giving it to the benefit of criminals, solicitors and barristers and is now running the political system away from the people. Man of the year? What a legacy he is building. " 👎👎👎 | |||
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"Lol he did not run the judicial system lol. He was the country's top prosecutor - that is something different." Yeah and look what a great job Suella did of that. 😂 | |||
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"Your wealth is defined by the total value of all your assets, not just by how much cash you have in the bank. It's always been thus. 27% of pensioners fall into the millionaire bracket, compared to 4.8% of the UK adult population as a whole.. Well adults under the age of 35 are hardly likely to have earned a million. House prices account for people wealth. So your percentages are totally misleading. Why should someone who worked over 50; years have to sell their home because they cannot live? What's point of working or even life itself, if we don't care for those who provided for us when we needed it. Such heartless view Careful...you are beginning to sound like a socialist..." . I don't have a label lol. Don't share any of my private life on here. Other than I'm a Christian. But I will say I care about people. That's are first and most important teaching | |||
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"Your wealth is defined by the total value of all your assets, not just by how much cash you have in the bank. It's always been thus. 27% of pensioners fall into the millionaire bracket, compared to 4.8% of the UK adult population as a whole.. Well adults under the age of 35 are hardly likely to have earned a million. House prices account for people wealth. So your percentages are totally misleading. Why should someone who worked over 50; years have to sell their home because they cannot live? What's point of working or even life itself, if we don't care for those who provided for us when we needed it. Such heartless view Careful...you are beginning to sound like a socialist.... I don't have a label lol. Don't share any of my private life on here. Other than I'm a Christian. But I will say I care about people. That's are first and most important teaching" 👎👎👎👎 | |||
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"It's difficult to understand why anyone, no matter what the circumstances are, voting for any labor government. If you look at the life cycle of politics, it seems a natural cycle of labor and the Opposition getting into power, along with the same cycle of decline and wealth. It always seems to go that labor get in, destroy the countries economy and then the Tories or who ever come back and repair it. Then the labor gets in again and the same cycle of decline. You can follow the same routine with other countries. Look at Oz at the moment. The labor party got in and completely devastated the economy, the opposition came in and fixed and now the labor back in and the economy has gone through the floor boards. If anyone thinks the last pandemic and the war in Ukraine didn't cause this last economic decline is living in another world. But I would hate to have seen what would have happened if the labor party was in power when all that kicked off. Dude. You can't even spell Labour. Another armchair economist. Jfc." Insults don't cut it, you avoid countering the points he actually made. | |||
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"It's difficult to understand why anyone, no matter what the circumstances are, voting for any labor government. If you look at the life cycle of politics, it seems a natural cycle of labor and the Opposition getting into power, along with the same cycle of decline and wealth. It always seems to go that labor get in, destroy the countries economy and then the Tories or who ever come back and repair it. Then the labor gets in again and the same cycle of decline. You can follow the same routine with other countries. Look at Oz at the moment. The labor party got in and completely devastated the economy, the opposition came in and fixed and now the labor back in and the economy has gone through the floor boards. If anyone thinks the last pandemic and the war in Ukraine didn't cause this last economic decline is living in another world. But I would hate to have seen what would have happened if the labor party was in power when all that kicked off. Dude. You can't even spell Labour. Another armchair economist. Jfc. Insults don't cut it, you avoid countering the points he actually made. " 👎👎👎👎👎👎 | |||
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"Give the woman their due compensation by withdrawing benefits from the illegal boat people.
They are not illegal, neither are they able to claim benefits. So much for that harebrained scheme. Where dya find that? In the Daily Mail comic? "You can deny all you want but they entered the UK illegally and are given everything they need including visits by health professionals. Return them . Hope that clears that up for you | |||
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". 27% of pensioners fall into the millionaire bracket, compared to 4.8% of the UK adult population as a whole.. Well adults under the age of 35 are hardly likely to have earned a million. House prices account for people wealth. So your percentages are totally misleading. w No they're not. Pensioners are the richest demographic in the UK. Over one in four fall into the millionaire bracket, compared to less than 1 in 20 for the population as a whole. Sir Keir always said the wealthiest would need to do more of the heavy lifting to repair the public finances, and he's been true to his word. Multi-millionaire land-owners losing their state-funded freebies, millionaire pensioners losing their state-funded freebies. " Now what do we mean by 'rich' Many pensioners are "asset rich but cash poor" The fact that their long owned semi detached is now valued at £ 500k does not help them pay the energy bills. It follows that pensioners will have more value in their assets than say 30 year olds, simply because their property inflation has had longer to take hold. | |||
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"Yes, wealth is calculated by adding up all your assets and liabilities. More than 1 in 4 pensioners are millionaires. " Sorry but thats simply not true where did you find this information | |||
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". It follows that pensioners will have more value in their assets than say 30 year olds, simply because their property inflation has had longer to take hold. " It may surprise you to discover the value of their personal pensions exceeds the value of their property. | |||
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"Give the woman their due compensation by withdrawing benefits from the illegal boat people. "Sweetie you are too worry about rubber boats just enjoy the Labour Party dominating brexshitters xx | |||
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"Yes, wealth is calculated by adding up all your assets and liabilities. More than 1 in 4 pensioners are millionaires. Sorry but thats simply not true where did you find this information" The Office for National Statistics is the primary source. Google who are the wealthiest in Britain and you'll discover that more than 1 in 4 pensioners have accumulated wealth in excess of £1 million | |||
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"Give the woman their due compensation by withdrawing benefits from the illegal boat people.
They are not illegal, neither are they able to claim benefits. So much for that harebrained scheme. Where dya find that? In the Daily Mail comic?
You can deny all you want but they entered the UK illegally and are given everything they need including visits by health professionals.
Return them . Hope that clears that up for you ". If immigrants claim asylum upon arrival,under international law the manner of arrival is not classed as illegal.. | |||
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" 1 in 4 pensioners are millionares ? Sorry its simply not true Do you mean 1 in 4 of the richest people are at pension age - there is a massive difference" Look it up. One in 4 UK pensioners are millionaires. | |||
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" 1 in 4 pensioners are millionares ? Sorry its simply not true Do you mean 1 in 4 of the richest people are at pension age - there is a massive difference Look it up. One in 4 UK pensioners are millionaires. " . Don't talk stupid | |||
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"Your wealth is defined by the total value of all your assets, not just by how much cash you have in the bank. It's always been thus. 27% of pensioners fall into the millionaire bracket, compared to 4.8% of the UK adult population as a whole.. Well adults under the age of 35 are hardly likely to have earned a million. House prices account for people wealth. So your percentages are totally misleading. Why should someone who worked over 50; years have to sell there home because they cannot live? What's point of working or even life itself, if we don't care for those who provided for us when we needed it. Such heartless view" Spot On. Great reply to that envious person. | |||
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" 1 in 4 pensioners are millionares ? Sorry its simply not true Do you mean 1 in 4 of the richest people are at pension age - there is a massive difference Look it up. One in 4 UK pensioners are millionaires. . Don't talk stupid" 👎👎👎 | |||
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"Your wealth is defined by the total value of all your assets, not just by how much cash you have in the bank. It's always been thus. 27% of pensioners fall into the millionaire bracket, compared to 4.8% of the UK adult population as a whole.. Well adults under the age of 35 are hardly likely to have earned a million. House prices account for people wealth. So your percentages are totally misleading. Why should someone who worked over 50; years have to sell there home because they cannot live? What's point of working or even life itself, if we don't care for those who provided for us when we needed it. Such heartless view Spot On. Great reply to that envious person." Totally agree | |||
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" 1 in 4 pensioners are millionares ? Sorry its simply not true Do you mean 1 in 4 of the richest people are at pension age - there is a massive difference Look it up. One in 4 UK pensioners are millionaires. " and 2 in 4 are racists and homophobic | |||
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"Your wealth is defined by the total value of all your assets, not just by how much cash you have in the bank. It's always been thus. 27% of pensioners fall into the millionaire bracket, compared to 4.8% of the UK adult population as a whole.. Well adults under the age of 35 are hardly likely to have earned a million. House prices account for people wealth. So your percentages are totally misleading. Why should someone who worked over 50; years have to sell there home because they cannot live? What's point of working or even life itself, if we don't care for those who provided for us when we needed it. Such heartless view" Spot On. Great reply to that envious person. | |||
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