FabGuys.com forum: Are you upper, middle or working class?

By *tar33 OP Man
2 days ago

North London (outer)

I've no idea what I am, and to be honest I don't care. How do we determine people's class these days, and can it change during their lifetimes?

It's something I feel that many people are obsessed by, and it isn't uncommon for people to say they're proud of being working class although I don't understand why. I never hear anyone say they're proud of being middle-class.

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By *3versMan
2 days ago

glasgow

Think of your neighbours and how would you describe them.

You're likely to be whatever you think your neighbours are

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By *oycasebriskMan
2 days ago

Market Rasen

I can help determine your social class with a quiz.

1) Do you own any pairs of Birkin Stocks?

2) If you are greeted by a tradesman such as scaffolder or builder do you change your presentation?

3) What’s your ideal meal deal?

4) Are you aware that it's all a social construct because we ascribe a range of other identity factors around class status?

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By *ohnnyangerMan
2 days ago

Dorking

Let's be honest the British class structure is more of a caste structure. Everyone's view of themselves is essentially formed by their childhood associations and not by their material surroundings. We have millionaires claiming to be working class constantly.

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By *hubbyman10Man
2 days ago

Bloxwich

Thought this was going to be a rehash of the two ronnies sketch

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By *oycasebriskMan
2 days ago

Market Rasen

Exactly, millionaires are the minority now a days and even fewer billionaires. We need to protect them xoxo

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By *urious4cockMan
2 days ago

Withan

I've always thought of myself as working class, but like to think I have more class than some whom see themselves as "upper middle class". I tend to grade class by how people conduct themselves and rather shallower how they dress

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By *ittlecock321Man
2 days ago

Southwell

Who cares

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By *ildwestheroMan
2 days ago

Llandrindod Wells

Everything has got jumbled up now. Don't really think a genuine class system still exists apart from those that want it to in order to fit their agenda. 100 years ago my mother's family would have been regarded as upper-middle-class verging on upper-class. However this is no longer the case. Most of my relatives are now fairly ordinary people. Comfortably off but all working and live in fairly ordinary houses.

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By *dambi00Man
2 days ago

Leicester

There isn’t a clear class system anymore, now it’s either you’re wealthy or you’re not.

In 24, I have a pretty good salary above the average salary, I have a secure job with a lot of room for career growth. However, it’s very difficult for me to buy a house and get a mortgage

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By *en GerMan
2 days ago

PRENTON

I would class myself as working class, working hard to make a decent living and have few modern luxuries.

Always worked from the age of 11 cutting lawns, washing cars, to understand the value of money and it's real concept if you want something then work for it.

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By *ikes2bsuckedMan
2 days ago

near Edwardsville/trelewis

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By *ikes2bsuckedMan
2 days ago

near Edwardsville/trelewis

Reminds me of that old black and white sketch featuring the two Ronnie's and John Cleese

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By *ollywellMan
2 days ago

gateshead

No class. Just be yourself. It works honest lol

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By *0tterMan
2 days ago

Grange-over-Sands

"I've no idea what I am, and to be honest I don't care. How do we determine people's class these days, and can it change during their lifetimes?

While I agree a lot of people are obsessed with class, I also think we've taken our eye off the ball when it comes to class. What I mean by this is we don't think or care enough about poverty and how this affects not only individuals but whole communities.

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By *enjamin2018Man
2 days ago

Halstead

"There isn’t a clear class system anymore, now it’s either you’re wealthy or you’re not.

In 24, I have a pretty good salary above the average salary, I have a secure job with a lot of room for career growth. However, it’s very difficult for me to buy a house and get a mortgage"

I thought the whole class thing was largely an outdated concept until the current government brought it back into use . As for buying a house it's definitely harder now for your generation than it was for mine but that's not only due to house prices, other factors are also at play, for example,you have to go through many more hoops to get a mortgage nowadays, a smokescreen cooked up by the lenders as a way of blaming the public for the banking crisis a decade or so ago, when it largely caused by their own greed and ineptitude .But it's swings and roundabouts, when my parents died some 30 years ago I inherited very little , partly because house prices were comparatively low , but when I and my ex wife die my son will be very well off ,not because we're rich but because house values are so much higher .

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By *xtraoneMan
2 days ago

gloucester

There's a lot of guys on fab with no class.

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By *evon gnomeMan
2 days ago

international space station..can accommodate.

Can you go to Greggs and still be Upper Crust

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By *0tterMan
2 days ago

Grange-over-Sands

"There isn’t a clear class system anymore, now it’s either you’re wealthy or you’re not.

In 24, I have a pretty good salary above the average salary, I have a secure job with a lot of room for career growth. However, it’s very difficult for me to buy a house and get a mortgage

Yes, but that wealth transfer will only happen if : a. if the parents are comfortably off enough to have their own property and/or savings ; b. if long term social care of one or both parents doesn't need paying for. This is very different from being able to build up your own assets because you lived in a place and time where a typical wage allowed you to buy a property and save.

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By *ublinBottomGuyMan
2 days ago

Santry

Definitely born working class, dad was a welder. Not really sure I'm counted as working class now on my income but I certainly still think of myself as working class.

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By *astguy7Man
2 days ago

Ross on Wye

I've got granite worktops and a coffee machine, so definitely middle class.

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By *our-slaveMan
2 days ago

nottingham

I was brought up in a very poor but very loving family. We had no spare money and few material possessions but I had a fantastic childhood. My dad was a coal man. I’m the eldest of six children.

I did well at school and achieved a MSc in Physics at uni. Then a MBA while working. With a combination of hard work and financial prudence I’ve become relatively wealthy. I live among very high earning professionals such as barristers, surgeons etc. My neighbour drives a Bentley SUV.

Does this make me middle class, upper middle class etc? Nope. I’m just me, as I always have been. I don’t feel that I’m part of any particular class. Psychologically, I suppose I identify more as working class due to my background. My sense of humour and language certainly aren’t upper class! And I have a very strong Nottingham accent that I refuse to hide. I can’t be arsed.

I don’t think money confers class these days. As someone else said, you can earn a lot of money these days and be unable to buy a house.

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By *ammy aka SammyTV/TS
2 days ago

Bedford

I bleed the same colour as every other human so I am exactly the same as king or pauper . As for rich I'm in good health I have a nice home a beautiful wife and daughter, and two adorable grandchildren you can't get richer than that xxx

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By *laireKTV/TS
2 days ago

Manchester

Outdated terms.

Nowadays, it's first class, club class, then economy.

(Me? I'm in the hold)

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By *evon gnomeMan
2 days ago

international space station..can accommodate.

In the olden days...wouldn't it have been who(m) you voted for... defined your class..all changed now...

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By *ara JevoTV/TS
2 days ago

Bristol East

I’m just class.

Prefix not required.

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By *eepeter4Man
2 days ago

Bournemouth

"I’m just class.

Prefix not required.

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By *eepeter4Man
2 days ago

Bournemouth

"Reminds me of that old black and white sketch featuring the two Ronnie's and John Cleese"
I know my place

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By *inaCD66TV/TS
2 days ago

Wimbledon

Usually Bottom of the Class 😉

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By *entlad365Man
2 days ago

Dartford

I work full time in a 'low skilled' job and have little to show for it so I guess I'm working class?

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By *0yguyMan
2 days ago

Cumberland

I worked hard all my professional life, paid my taxes, I’m polite I think and talk intelligibly without a strong regional accent. I went to University on a full grant because my parents were poor and I’ve never inherited a penny. Everything I have I worked for. Retired with just enough to get by. What does that make me? Probably stupid.

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By *ndyfy7Man
2 days ago

Fleetwood

My definition of working class - if someone pays your wages / salaries- then you are

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By *aregay31Man
2 days ago

Marchwood Southampton

Depends if your connected to hyacinth bucket (pronounced bouquet)

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By *oodpeckerMan
2 days ago

Falkirk

I'm confidently 'upper class' on Fabguys 🤪, with a middle class lifestyle 🥂 and working class heritage on one side of my family: all in all, a (classless/clueless) mutt 🐶🌈

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By *ookingFor...Man
2 days ago

West Sussex

"My definition of working class - if someone pays your wages / salaries- then you are "

I'm not sure people who do very physical jobs, often for low wages eg binmen, refuse tip workers, road workers and so on would see it quite like that.

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By *itchianMan
2 days ago

Liverpool

Working class with a middle class life style?

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By *ountainMan
2 days ago

ipswich

Educated working class.

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By *ath NaturistMan
2 days ago

Bath

One needs to give this question due consideration.

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By *kigaiMan
2 days ago

Northampton

"Think of your neighbours and how would you describe them.

You're likely to be whatever you think your neighbours are"

OMG!!! I'm a lesbian couple with 3 children.

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By *evinmanMan
2 days ago

Dublin

Middle

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By *ubmanMan
2 days ago

Dublin 24

"Think of your neighbours and how would you describe them.

You're likely to be whatever you think your neighbours are"

Are you saying im a cunt?

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By *evon gnomeMan
2 days ago

international space station..can accommodate.

"Think of your neighbours and how would you describe them.

You're likely to be whatever you think your neighbours are"
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I'm next to a graveyard ..

I thought I wasn't feeling well

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By (user no longer on site)
2 days ago

I can be whatever you want.

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By *evon gnomeMan
2 days ago

international space station..can accommodate.

I'll ask my chauffeur

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By *estwillMan
2 days ago

Bracknell

My dad was a tool maker

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By *evon gnomeMan
2 days ago

international space station..can accommodate.

"My dad was a tool maker "
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Brilliant

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By *ycraveetMan
2 days ago

ashton i m

"Work is the curse of the drinking classes"

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By *amesmbi47Man
2 days ago

Norwich

In my opinion, you are the class that you grew up in...

I had a traditional, solid , working class background and I am now at a stage in my life where I have a nice house etc and amongst, other things, enjoy art and classical music...

Some frightfully nice people try and say that makes me middle class.. Like fuck does it and I take great joy in telling them how how they disrespect my father for even suggesting that I am now somehow better than he was...

Middle class people are scared of working class people who have something about them and they want us in their group so that we won't threaten their cosy existence...

Money does not decide your class... A premiership footballer can have had a poverty stricken upbringing but be earning millions of pounds a year by the age of 20. He does not suddenly become middle class although his future children may have such a life...

As you have seen I feel strongly about this subject but the question was asked......

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By *inaCD66TV/TS
2 days ago

Wimbledon

I think a lot of us grew up on coucil estates or such like and were classes as working class.

Fuck them i didnt care i went on to own houses etc and still can walk freely in those estates.

Also i can mix with the toffee nosed pimps of society.

money talks.. class is how you USE IT x

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By *ookingFor...Man
2 days ago

West Sussex

James Maggie T...

A lot of it may boil down to whether or not you can still identify with or understand working class people and maybe you do.

Many working class people voted Brexit, some say they got it over the line...but many don't understand or get why or how that happened.

For me, that's the disconnect between the middle class and the working class, especially the parliamentary Labour Party and its supporters.

They claim to support working people and yet they don't understand them.

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By *angtMan
1 day ago

Wednesfield /Wolverhampton

I live in a council house, on a council estate. Always have, always will. Both of my parents were factory workers, and we hardly could afford a pot to piss in.

However, if I wanted to buy a house, I have enough assets to do that tomorrow, I already have for 3 of my 4 kids, and will for the 4th when it’s needed.

I had a grammar school education and have a degree in economics.

I work in a low skilled job, but have worked as a high level professional in the past. I choose the low skilled job because I don’t do it for money and has little to no pressure attached.

I drive a 10 year old car because I couldn’t justify the cost when I bought a brand new one, and gave it away to my son.

If you met me on the street, you would automatically assume I had nothing, even though I could retire tomorrow and basically afford anything I wanted for the rest of my life.

I’d say I’m working class, my friends would say the same I hope, but my kids would disagree, as would my bank accounts, but that’s how I like to live my life, just as I always have done.

Class is about how you feel about yourself more than anything else.

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By *ammy aka SammyTV/TS
1 day ago

Bedford

I have no class I'm a scrubber xxx

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By *edsmanMan
1 day ago

kildare

Working class

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By *eekingcumsMan
1 day ago

Stoke/Stafford

Just a slut, I fuck anyone who's polite, able to hold a conversation and has a sense of humour.

Sometimes don't need those requirements to get tucked.

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By *ammy aka SammyTV/TS
1 day ago

Bedford

"Just a slut, I fuck anyone who's polite, able to hold a conversation and has a sense of humour.

Sometimes don't need those requirements to get tucked."
well hello

xxx

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By *LHANDSMan
1 day ago

scotland

Everyone lives in their own world, class is something people invented to make people in their world feel inferior, everyone misses yellow bleeds red n poos brown,life is for finding things to do to pass the time till they die.as long as you can find contentment n love in your life class can't affect you

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By *ichey6Man
1 day ago

aberdeen

Class does impact on your life. Postcode snobbery for example in terms of job-application.

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By *estafellaMan
1 day ago

Leicester

I don't want to attach a class label to myself. I try to live my life according to my own values and not concern myself too much with what others may think of me. A lot of people restrict and hinder their lives by being constantly worried about how they are judged by others. Let Hyacinth Bucket enjoy her candle light suppers, but if you want a chippy tea with Onslow and Daisy, then that's fine too.

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By *opowMan
1 day ago

Stratford-upon-Avon

British people are obsessed with class. It goes back to the Feudal System.

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By *LHANDSMan
1 day ago

scotland

"Class does impact on your life. Postcode snobbery for example in terms of job-application."
would you want to work for a company with that attitude

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By *ichey6Man
1 day ago

aberdeen

No. I should have stated problems pals have faced when applying for jobs...

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By *ookingFor...Man
1 day ago

West Sussex

"I live in a council house, on a council estate. Always have, always will. Both of my parents were factory workers, and we hardly could afford a pot to piss in.

However, if I wanted to buy a house, I have enough assets to do that tomorrow, I already have for 3 of my 4 kids, and will for the 4th when it’s needed....

Given the social housing shortage, you're OK with taking up a council house you don't need?

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By *orecockMan
1 day ago

East Shropshire

I always considered myself working class ,then I moved to Telford and realised I was actually middle class

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By *ara JevoTV/TS
1 day ago

Bristol East

Given the social housing shortage, you're OK with taking up a council house you don't need?"

It is a roof over his head - everyone needs a roof over their head.

The destruction of the social housing sector by right-wing dogma is not his fault.

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By *uffolkman22Man
1 day ago

lavenham

If you have to go to work

YOU ARE WORKING CLASS

It’s that simple

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By *ookingFor...Man
1 day ago

West Sussex

Given the social housing shortage, you're OK with taking up a council house you don't need?

It is a roof over his head - everyone needs a roof over their head.

The destruction of the social housing sector by right-wing dogma is not his fault.

Well, I was asking him...but everything is your business it seems.

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By *ecs72Man
1 day ago

Woodbridge

The traditional class labels don’t exist as far as I’m concerned. It’s just a way of labelling oneself to seem better than other people - and that desire covers everyone regardless of wealth or personal circumstances.

Rich or poor, living in social housing or a mansion etc etc, people are fundamentally all the same when it comes down to it.

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By *ookingFor...Man
1 day ago

West Sussex

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By *ookingFor...Man
1 day ago

West Sussex

"If you have to go to work

YOU ARE WORKING CLASS

It’s that simple "

Really...

So you think someone on a six-figure salary would fit in if they went to a rough area full of people that scrape by on minimum wage?

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By *ara JevoTV/TS
1 day ago

Bristol East

Given the social housing shortage, you're OK with taking up a council house you don't need?

It is a roof over his head - everyone needs a roof over their head.

The destruction of the social housing sector by right-wing dogma is not his fault.

Well, I was asking him...but everything is your business it seems. "

I'm wondering how you came to the conclusion that home ownership is the only acceptable tenure.

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By *ookingFor...Man
1 day ago

West Sussex

"The traditional class labels don’t exist as far as I’m concerned. It’s just a way of labelling oneself to seem better than other people - and that desire covers everyone regardless of wealth or personal circumstances.

Rich or poor, living in social housing or a mansion etc etc, people are fundamentally all the same when it comes down to it."

Some would say that working class values have all but disappeared.

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By *ookingFor...Man
1 day ago

West Sussex

Given the social housing shortage, you're OK with taking up a council house you don't need?

It is a roof over his head - everyone needs a roof over their head.

The destruction of the social housing sector by right-wing dogma is not his fault.

Well, I was asking him...but everything is your business it seems.

I'm wondering how you came to the conclusion that home ownership is the only acceptable tenure."

That's not what I said. I asked if someone is comfortable renting a social, not private, property when they could buy one and leave that property available for a family who couldn't afford privately rented properties or to get a mortgage.

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By *ichelle-hantsTV/TS
1 day ago

Hayling island, Hants

I ain't got no class.

Oink

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By *ara JevoTV/TS
1 day ago

Bristol East

You think Zangt should give up his home to someone in greater need.

It begs the question what you're doing with your home to help someone in greater need.

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By *ookingFor...Man
1 day ago

West Sussex

"You think Zangt should give up his home to someone in greater need.

It begs the question what you're doing with your home to help someone in greater need.

I'm not saying he should, I'm asking why he doesn't. He doesn't have to answer.

I have a one bedroom flat with a mortgage, so I'm not really in a position to help anyone.

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By *ildwestheroMan
24 hours ago

Llandrindod Wells

I suppose there is a big difference between being a member of a perceived class [working, lower, middle, upper-middle, upper etc] than having class. You can be as rich as a Rothchild, live in a fancy mansion and be chauffeur driven in a Rolls but still have no class. Alternatively you can live in a tiny house on a basic income yet still exude class. It's all a matter of taste and attitude.

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By *ig Bad JohnMan
24 hours ago

Farnborough

If, whilst eating, you handle your knife and fork like holding pens and you also hang your roll of toilet paper with the tissues against the wall - then you are definitely working class.

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By (user no longer on site)
24 hours ago

I honestly couldn't care less. Treat others as you wish to be treated

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By *estvMan
24 hours ago

Hull

"If, whilst eating, you handle your knife and fork like holding pens ."

I never quite understand why people do that but each to their own.

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By *b20Man
23 hours ago

Glasgow

I define people's class by how kind and polite they are

As someone else said, treat others the way you like to be treated yourself

It's nice to be nice, and it brings out the better side of most people

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By *uffolkman22Man
21 hours ago

lavenham

Americans do not have class most of them only eat a meal with a fork ! Even Donald Trump the leader of 65 million Americans

Ffs my kids were told off for doing that

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By *ammy aka SammyTV/TS
10 hours ago

Bedford

Class speaks for itself xxx

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By *tevejbMan
9 hours ago

Leeds

Having class, u mean style - but being in a social class - About 85% of us are working class. 0.1% are upper class (capitalists and landowners who employ more than 20 people, own the means of production, etc) About 15% are what Marx called petit bourgeois and could roughly be described as middle class. They are not waged to an employer. They may be self employed or employ a handful of workers. They may support either the working class or the upper (ruling class). I suppose I m petit bourgeois but I always support the working class and I am proud of that fact - why not be proud of it.

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By *oanne..TV/TS
9 hours ago

DONCASTER

Social classes are old fashioned

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By *enjamin2018Man
7 hours ago

Halstead

I'm not sure that using Marx as a reference lends credibility to a debate about the definition of class, not least because he died over 140 years ago when the world was a much different place.

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By *heo6SGMan
6 hours ago

Near Stamford

Upper middle

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By *ara JevoTV/TS
5 hours ago

Bristol East

If the person in front of me in the queue at the check-out in Lidl has a Daily Mail in their shopping basket, I call them pretendy posh.

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By *ammy aka SammyTV/TS
5 hours ago

Bedford

I'm top of the class

Oh hang on a minute no I'm I'm bottom xxx

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By *orks762014Man
2 hours ago

elland

Who cares. We all bleed and die at the end of the day

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By *ugged NorthernerMan
2 hours ago

Sunderland

From the North East proper Working Class

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By *odameMan
2 hours ago

Spain NOT

outdated hangover based on snobbery and being judgemental, perpetuating the use of it says a lot about a person's attitude to others

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By *om9Man
2 hours ago

Saint Helens

Well I'm a roofer worked with my hands all my life so I'm working class

But if you look at my house and I always have a new merc every couple of years some would think differently

But then I'm a biker and loads look down on bikers which ever I don't care I'm.happy who I am

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By *ugged NorthernerMan
2 hours ago

Sunderland

"Well I'm a roofer worked with my hands all my life so I'm working class

But if you look at my house and I always have a new merc every couple of years some would think differently

But then I'm a biker and loads look down on bikers which ever I don't care I'm.happy who I am"

Bikers are great bunch of people 👍

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By *izzzMan
2 minutes ago

Manchester

"Outdated terms.

Nowadays, it's first class, club class, then economy.

(Me? I'm in the hold)"

And there is premier economy as well. Yo get a bit more leg room.

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By *izzzMan
2 minutes ago

Manchester

"Outdated terms.

Nowadays, it's first class, club class, then economy.

(Me? I'm in the hold)"

And there is premier economy as well. You get a bit more leg room.

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