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" I'm not a bi man, so apologies for arguably hijacking this thread, but in reality I think it's mere semantics." thank you for sharing your life story, and so eloquently. the majority of us that now identify as gay will have used bi as a cover until we found the courage to be our true selves. hopefully someone reading your story will find strength in seeing how, despite that there will be awkward conversations and challenges, there is the opportunity for a fabulous future | |||
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"I'm at the stage i want to come out as gay I'm with my girlfriend but she has no clue about my gay side and she has been through loads of shit in her life i really don't want to add to it by telling her I'm gay I'm really struggling to hide it i almost told her the other day the feeling of being gay is very strong and I'm finding it very hard to contain it xx" Show her your arse hole. She’ll know ![]() | |||
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"I'm at the stage i want to come out as gay I'm with my girlfriend but she has no clue about my gay side and she has been through loads of shit in her life i really don't want to add to it by telling her I'm gay I'm really struggling to hide it i almost told her the other day the feeling of being gay is very strong and I'm finding it very hard to contain it xx" despite appearances and the sexual propensity of this forum, as you read above, there are many on here who have been in a similar situatuion, there is a community that supports you right here if you want to reach out living your life as YOU should be your absolute priority, loyalty or guilt for someone being upset at you for being you should not ace that coming out has its challenges but the outcome and happiness in being your true self far outweighs those my dm's are open if you need to talk m8 | |||
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"I am 60 I am married 2nd time round to same women she took my virginity at 24 I had few girl friends even went away breaks....." thanks for sharing, sounds like the sex therapist sessions were good for you, were they provided by the NHS? | |||
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"Have come close a few times but just not quite ready or sure at the moment." lgbt switchboard has a chat facility if you feel you need to talk it through with a professional | |||
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"If my wife knew I liked cock I am sure she would leave me but part of me wants that." Read what you wrote on your profile which is also about wanting the wife leaving you maybe reach out to one of the support organisations to discuss your feelings and create an exit strategy rather than hoping to be discovered and the drama that would create | |||
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"I'm at the stage i want to come out as gay I'm with my girlfriend but she has no clue about my gay side and she has been through loads of shit in her life i really don't want to add to it by telling her I'm gay I'm really struggling to hide it i almost told her the other day the feeling of being gay is very strong and I'm finding it very hard to contain it xx Show her your arse hole. She’ll know ![]() What a horrible thing to say ![]() | |||
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"Iv always hid who I was and denied it, my wife and I started swinging about a year ago and I found out who I was and why I’d had these feelings all my life. It was hard telling her that I like all genders, but she was and has been so amazing! Has even encouraged me to join here 🙂" great to hear you can now live as your true self with an understanding partner do you have any advice for others on how to start the conversation ? | |||
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"I'm at the stage i want to come out as gay I'm with my girlfriend but she has no clue about my gay side and she has been through loads of shit in her life i really don't want to add to it by telling her I'm gay I'm really struggling to hide it i almost told her the other day the feeling of being gay is very strong and I'm finding it very hard to contain it xx Show her your arse hole. She’ll know ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I haven't mentioned the cross dressing yet, one shock at a time." But then, is that a level of detail they need to know? I mean you wouldn't list your sexual interests to them, so why even mention the CD? I'd say, don't let the 'perfect' be the enemy of the good and risk undoing what you've just achieved. | |||
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"I haven't mentioned the cross dressing yet, one shock at a time. But then, is that a level of detail they need to know? I mean you wouldn't list your sexual interests to them, so why even mention the CD? I'd say, don't let the 'perfect' be the enemy of the good and risk undoing what you've just achieved." Sage advice, which I shall take time to consider. Since I have only recently started, I'll see where it goes, maybe try some meets as a cd, decide if it's a long term thing. If it were to come up in conversation I wouldn't deny it though. | |||
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"If I was to come out I’d literally have to start a new life as the fall out would be too much. It’s either start new life or top myself one of the two that’s for sure " Your description "starting a new life" is what it is. A step that shouldn't be taken lightly, only you have the inside knowledge of your marriage and understanding of how deep or truthful your commitment to your wife is versus your desire to live your life as your authentic self. It is a massive step that should have an exit strategy planned rather than expect the other person to accept the announcement, preparing time and space to allow all parties the opportunity to reflect, especially if children are part of the equation. Some marriages include family business connections that could cause dramatic financial implications besides family division and loss of friendships, any exit strategy should plan for the worst reaction and include financial independence. Preparing in advance your own support network of people that you have already made aware of your situation and who are aware of your plans is vital for your need to have mental health support during what would be challenging times. Most important is a post 'coming out' survival plan. Planning how you will enjoy the new life you have created as the reward for all your effort should be part of that. | |||
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"I was from an early age attracted to males but in the era I grew up in it was actually illegal to be gay so I married and led a “straight” life but never shied away from gay men or situations, then finally had my first real sex session in my mid 50s with a man (thank you David) who sucked me off and that broke down the barriers, my sexual contact with men increased and I lost all inhibitors to finally have an Adonis pop my cherry 8” of rock hard cock giving me pain that quickly turned to pure pleasure 🤪💋❤️ I am now totally bottom and love kisses and cuddles with masculine men. However I daren’t come out as being gay as I don’t know if I could handle the potential backlash🫣🥸 So I take my pleasures with men discreetly but would love to walk hand in hand in public with my male lover 💋💋💋" A testament to the pressures in society that young men from the older generation faced, but as the law decriminalising homosexuality was passed in 1967 it isn't really a valid point today, unless you are in your late 70s or 80s. For those born post 1950 the pressures in society on young men when they are more vulnerable to beng influenced, especially by family members voicing strong opinions, forced so many create a character and lifestyle that is a facade that they then built a life around and are unable to break away from, often due to a sense of loyalty, guilt and pride. The other social pressure of toxic masculinity can make it even harder for those more easily influenced by others opinions to break 'character', especially as gay men have historically been portrayed in such a negative way, effeminate homosexuals being the most prevelant representation in the media. Misogyny also fuels the prejudice that being gay/homosexual is somehow weaker than being heterosexual. Internalised homophobia created by the constant negativity can create self loathing and an inability to accept themselves and a belief they do not deserve to be happy. Thankfully representation is changing and controversy such as gay marriage has created awareness and open discussion plus support from unlikely allies. Those unlikely allies are the ones that are most mentioned in anecdotal testament to what gave guys the strength to create a happier life for themselves. Individual circumstances and personal conviction dictate if, how, and when any change is achievable and nobody denies it is difficult, claiming is it impossible is not being true to oneself. | |||
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"I’m too scared to come out " Have you considered writing down all the things that scare you about coming out, and then writing next to them the best and worst outcome? You may be surprised if you then compare them to all the worst outcomes you may have feared in the past that either did not happen, were not as bad as expected or that you survived and can look back on without the trauma you predicted. | |||
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"I was married to a woman for 15 years had 2 sons the youngest of whom died suddenly 9 years ago . I miss him terribly and think about him all of the time . My eldest son is 29 and found some emails I hadn't deleted, as a result of which he confronted me about my sexuality. I told him I wasn't prepared to discuss my sexuality with him and was annoyed that he felt the need to make it an issue whilst professing not to be bothered about it , and for a while we hardly spoke . About 5 months ago his attitude changed and we now chat regularly,and are back to how we were with each other before ,we'd always had a close relationship when he was growing up , and the subject isn't mentioned, although we both know the truth . I don't feel that I want to reopen the subject with him ,im his dad it's not a subject that I want to discuss with him and I don't see the benefit to either of us by talking about it... " Firstly, sympathy for your loss, losing a child must be unimaginable grief. You say your son 'confronted' you, that makes it sound like he had issues about either homosexuality, having a gay dad or how it related to your marriage/divorce and his mum, you say he has now changed his attitude, that you both know the truth but you don't want to discuss it with him, or see any benefit if you did. Perhaps consider how that may be better if it were to change as you begin this new life rather than it remain the elephant in the corner Not having transparency could be a strain if you develop a mm relationship, being someone's 'dirty secret' isn't a good place to be. Having a fully supportive son would be fantastic, just being open about your wishes and plans for your future would be a compromise but at the least it opens the door to future development of your relationship with him. Not wanting friends to know about intimate sexual acts is a normal expectation of privacy but good thinking people know it is more than sex. Although wanting to remain 'in the closet' to close friends may be some guilt from keeping it secret and the awkwardness of it being different to how you have learned to portay yourself, it may have its roots in some part of internalised homophobia that you may benefit from researching and seeing if you identify any of it in yourself. Again, any potential mm relationship would have pressure that could be avoided if you are already 'out', if you meet someone that has the same interests you enjoy with your friends that offers amazing possibilities, it would be a shame to have closed the door on that potential. Accepting and loving yourself is the first step. There are many support agencies out there that have a wealth of experience in helping mature men coming out, they can also sign post you to social groups of other men of a similar age and whose experiences match yours. | |||
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"You would be amazed what goes on behind the closed curtains of the UK where most assume neuro-typical domestic bliss. I've born witness to many a story of acceptance and tolerance and, sadly, equally as many of intolerance and rejection. The human capacity for both and to find ways in which to exist is quite extraordinary at times." Maybe its as well we don't know. We all need to find a coping mechanism! | |||
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