FabGuys.com forum: Doctor Who: Joy to the World

By *arla999 OP Man
over a year ago

glasgow

Definitely Steven Moffat has lost the plot(if you can excuse the pun)

Are we Whovians not fed up with silly plots that would be better on the silly soaps like Corrie, Eastenders etc.

We want adventure not watered down nostalgia or an insight into the troubled dysfunctional personality of the Doctor's new associates.

N'Cuti is the most emotional Doctor ever and a good actor and a so sexy man, but really has he been given a good exciting adventure to thwart the deadliest of aliens in the Whoinverse? No he hasn't.

Where is the great adventurers typified by Tennant, Baker(Tom), Pertwee , Capaldi, Smith just to name a few.

Where are the frightening creatures from the depth of space that want to obliterate our planet and want to assimilate mankind to their way of life

Where?

Bringing out the occasional dinosaur, like in the Christmas adventure is child's play

Where are the great companions like Rose Tyler, Jamie McCrimmon, Amy Pond etc.

No wonder there is doubt about another series after next years

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By *oosterladMan
over a year ago

ipswich

Yep I agree. I havent hid behind the sofa with a cushion in fear for years and years since I was eight. Bloody BBC wokeness.

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By *evanianMan
over a year ago

Gogledd Ddwyrain Cymru

For a series that dates back over 60 years, perhaps every story theme and variations of themes have now been exhausted to do it any justice in today's world? Maybe it's gone past its time especially as the quality entertainment factor it once had has since been lost and it's time to close the book.

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By *raig_KJMan
over a year ago

Southport

Dr Who is aimed at a different audience now.

Dr Who works better with monsters, it’s trying to modernise. Which means boring.

Bring on the WokeFlake Monster.

It’s is possible to show respect to everyone without, laying inclusivity on with a trowel.

I use to be an avid viewer. Now I rarely watch it.

Its supposed to be SI-FI not Nonsense FI.

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By *adwolf75Man
over a year ago

Grantham

Doctor Who isn't always about monsters and invasions...It's different things to different people from comedy,drama,musicals,adventure,tragedy...it's in the storytelling not in following a format.Its diversity as a show means there is enough for everyone and why it's lasted

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By *oosterladMan
over a year ago

ipswich

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By *oosterladMan
over a year ago

ipswich

Woke and unentertaining as I said. That's why its finished.

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By *amie2018cMan
over a year ago

N Cambs, W Norf

Having watched doctor who since 1973 did not enJoy the Christmas offering

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By *raig_KJMan
over a year ago

Southport

One of my favourite stories was.

THE PYRAMIDS OF MARS.l

I watched it first time round as a child.

This along with GENESIS OF THE DALEKS are Classics.

Today’s efforts are not in the same league.

Dr Who is heading towards retirement.

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By *adwolf75Man
over a year ago

Grantham

It's a cash cow for the BBC,sixth most watched programme of the day,,,

Oh and in other news Tom Baker now has an MBE to his name

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By *arla999 OP Man
over a year ago

glasgow

"Doctor Who isn't always about monsters and invasions...It's different things to different people from comedy,drama,musicals,adventure,tragedy...it's in the storytelling not in following a format.Its diversity as a show means there is enough for everyone and why it's lasted"

It's just a soap and diversity is it's death knell

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By *adwolf75Man
over a year ago

Grantham

Except it isnt

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By *artin1963Man
over a year ago

London

My take is that Doctor Who has a large young fan base who don't give a fuck what anyone who watched it 20 years ago think about it now.

That's what's driving the numbers of viewers up.

(Also it really is not that bad in comparison to some stuff from the past)

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By *atrina KaisarionTV/TS
over a year ago

lichfield

I thought the xmas special was good,Dr who isn't just about monsters and being scary the 60,s and 70,s was a different time Daleks and cybermen arnt scary anymore, But the fear of loneliness and loss and fear of aging as his companions do now that's scary, I could go on and on about why Dr who is as good today as it ever was but it's all in the eye of the beholder opions are like assholes everybody has one.

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By *laireKTV/TS
over a year ago

Manchester

"I thought the xmas special was good,Dr who isn't just about monsters and being scary the 60,s and 70,s was a different time Daleks and cybermen arnt scary anymore, But the fear of loneliness and loss and fear of aging as his companions do now that's scary, I could go on and on about why Dr who is as good today as it ever was but it's all in the eye of the beholder opions are like assholes everybody has one."

This is true.

Maybe Dr Who had to go in a different direction, and it's my tastes which no longer align.

That's fine.

We are blessed with choice nowadays. In the distant past, that wasn't the case.

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By *upSamMan
over a year ago

Evesham

I did not enjoy it. Not really enjoyed the Xmas episodes . Stick to the series n bring back the monsters

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By *ublinBottomGuyMan
over a year ago

Dublin

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By *fourjMan
over a year ago

Here, there or somewhere nearish March

I’ve watched every episode since it began when I was eight. That’s one of the advantages of being old. I love to see all the different ways the character has been taken over the past sixty odd years. So far I’ve watched the Christmas special twice and enjoyed it even more the second time. I’m sorry when I see so many people who don’t like anything different happening. May Doctor Who outlive me and continue to surprise. I love it.

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By *andomguy321Man
over a year ago

reading

It's become the Mrs Brown's Boys of Sci-fi ... Only much browner

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By *estwillMan
over a year ago

Bracknell

Oh, and the DrWho Christmas special was mediocre at best.

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By *raig_KJMan
over a year ago

Southport

"I’ve watched every episode since it began when I was eight. That’s one of the advantages of being old. I love to see all the different ways the character has been taken over the past sixty odd years. So far I’ve watched the Christmas special twice and enjoyed it even more the second time. I’m sorry when I see so many people who don’t like anything different happening. May Doctor Who outlive me and continue to surprise. I love it. "

I’ve no issues with Dr Who being different and evolving, it’s the writing that’s been dreadful.

If you had to write an Essay on a Classic episode you could easily fill a few pages. You would struggle to write a Paragraph on the latest effort.

If I’d never seen Dr WHO, and had just seen the Christmas Special, I’d of switched off in the first ten minutes.

I don’t care if they make any more. I have IPlayer to watch Dr Who if I’m ever so inclined.

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By *airythighs61Man
over a year ago

nr, Sheringham

What a load of bollocks !

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By *adwolf75Man
over a year ago

Grantham

S9 many childish comments

Did anyone actually pay attention to the dialogue or are they just too busy attempting to trigger responses on here

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By *fourjMan
over a year ago

Here, there or somewhere nearish March

I’ve no issues with Dr Who being different and evolving, it’s the writing that’s been dreadful.

If you had to write an Essay on a Classic episode you could easily fill a few pages. You would struggle to write a Paragraph on the latest effort.

If I’d never seen Dr WHO, and had just seen the Christmas Special, I’d of switched off in the first ten minutes.

I don’t care if they make any more. I have IPlayer to watch Dr Who if I’m ever so inclined."

Each to their own, of course, and I am enjoying Doctor Who immensely.

Peter Capaldi and particularly Jodie Whittaker were let down by less good writing, but I have not found that to be the case with Ncuti Gatwa so far. What serves Doctor Who poorly is the decision taken before the reboot that each episode must be self-contained. Having to to cram the exposition, development and resolution of a plot into a single episode may fit a current aesthetic, but it does little to encourage the viewer to become invested in the series.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s a shadow of its former self I lasted 10 mins before I turned it off

Have a tradition of watching past Christmas specials if you do you’ll see how far the show has fallen

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By *ensualblokeMan
over a year ago

London /Colchester

For me, it died as a series when Davison's Doctor died on Androzani Minor in 1984, and it never recovered. I tried watching the re-boot, but it just seemed 'off' tonally: ie the comedy and Buffy inspired 'snarky' one liner stuff, it wasn't for me. Obviously I have seen clips of the latest iteration of the show, and it seems even further away from the show I loved as a kid, and not for me.

To be honest I preferred Blake's Seven.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Daleks as a kid were great baddies.

The Weeping Angels creeped me out too.

I doubt an institution like the BBC could produce an edgy enough sci-fi series anymore to entertain the jaded cynical masses these days.

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By *umlover71Man
over a year ago

Lowestoft

From Capaldi in, the whole franchise took a massive dive.

Time this joke of a program was put out of its misery for good.

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By *adwolf75Man
over a year ago

Grantham

"For me, it died as a series when Davison's Doctor died on Androzani Minor in 1984, and it never recovered. I tried watching the re-boot, but it just seemed 'off' tonally: ie the comedy and Buffy inspired 'snarky' one liner stuff, it wasn't for me. Obviously I have seen clips of the latest iteration of the show, and it seems even further away from the show I loved as a kid, and not for me.

To be honest I preferred Blake's Seven."

Davison "died" in the TARDIS not Androzani Minor

Blakes 7 had plenty of snarkiness in Avon and series A is out on bluray

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

send this worn out franchise back (or forward) in time forever

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By *tevedcMan
over a year ago

Chepstow

This was a very disappointing episode, poor loose rehash of ‘Voyage of the Damned’, agree that Ncuti Gatwa plays a great character, but suffering from poor writing…fingers crossed for the next series…

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By *haz1972TV/TS
over a year ago

North TA20 (A303), FL, CN, SH

Agreed - Super disappointed after seeing it! Hoping for a lot more and left thinking "meh".

Lazy script writing again.

Though my young nieces absolutely loved it so go figure!!!

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By *liceCDTV/TS
over a year ago

Hatfield

This current Dr is dreadful sooner he regenerates the better

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By *ichey6Man
over a year ago

aberdeen

If it was a choice of listening to Coldplay or watching an episode of Dr Who, I guess it would have to be Dr Who.

But only just.

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By *astDevonGuyMan
over a year ago

Seaton

Awful episode , terrible nonsensical plot. Seemed more like the Ncuti Gatwa show, than Doctor Who, time to send him to Trenzalore for a very long time.

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By *optobottomrctMan
over a year ago

RCT

I am old enough to remember the first episode and was a fan for many years. But it was always supposed to be a kids show and it's many many years ago when I was a kid. I can't even name all the doctors now. Lost interest some years ago and from bits of promos I've seen there's no incentive for me to watch again. Now when they do get around to casting a vegan lesbian dolphin as the Dr I may tune in to watch.

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By *optobottomrctMan
over a year ago

RCT

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By *raig_KJMan
over a year ago

Southport

"I am old enough to remember the first episode and was a fan for many years. But it was always supposed to be a kids show and it's many many years ago when I was a kid. I can't even name all the doctors now. Lost interest some years ago and from bits of promos I've seen there's no incentive for me to watch again. Now when they do get around to casting a vegan lesbian dolphin as the Dr I may tune in to watch. "

The First Episode was in 1963, and your age was?

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By *astDevonGuyMan
over a year ago

Seaton

The First Episode was in 1963, and your age was?

They must have repeated the early series too , as I remember watching the William Hartnell episodes and hiding behind the sofa , was living in Bristol so I reckon it was around 1965 . Troughton is still the quintessential Doctor though …

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By *arla999 OP Man
over a year ago

glasgow

Hope to see N'Cuti Gatwa aka Dr Who in his kilt in the new series, so sexy in it the last time especially with his gorgeous big smile

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By *ayleMidsTV/TS
over a year ago

Loughbrough

I stopped watching when Jodie Whittaker took over, rubbish. Tried again when Tennant came back for the special and I could not believe he signed up for such woke drivel.

However watched war games in colour 1969 where Trouton goes to Pertwee loved it. Never saw it first time but started watching in the Pertwee era and wondered how he got banished.

Its time to either review and revamp or kill it. But Disney has it so just more drivel

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By *raig_KJMan
over a year ago

Southport

All real Dr Who fans want it to be good. It’s a sad fact that nonsense scripts and a lack of interesting stories, means it is boring for us old Stawarts. It’s written for a new Generation. The inclusivity, and morality themes are not of interest to people who already respect other peoples rights to be part of mainstream entertainment. It’s meant that those who are actually good and excel at what they do, are excluded. This is part of the reason, why the program is of poor quality. It’s ticking all the boxes for some people, who desire a utopia.

Fashions Change, and money always wins.

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By *entlad365Man
over a year ago

Dartford

Haven't really enjoyed the Christmas specials since The Husbands of River Song. In my opinion there's just something lacking in the story that just makes me lose interest halfway through.

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By *aregay31Man
over a year ago

Marchwood Southampton

Doctor who has always evolved around its primary target audience. Sometimes for the better sometimes for the worst. Those who grew up during the original run and those that have grown up during the RTD 1 and Moffat eras will always hark bark to those times saying it was the best eras etc. However times change. I could come up with a season featuring nothing but classic monsters however I'm not a bbc show runner. So unless your a bbc executive you have a simple choice if you've outgrown the show your don't have to watch it.

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By *raig_KJMan
over a year ago

Southport

"Doctor who has always evolved around its primary target audience. Sometimes for the better sometimes for the worst. Those who grew up during the original run and those that have grown up during the RTD 1 and Moffat eras will always hark bark to those times saying it was the best eras etc. However times change. I could come up with a season featuring nothing but classic monsters however I'm not a bbc show runner. So unless your a bbc executive you have a simple choice if you've outgrown the show your don't have to watch it. "

Dr Who was ‘back in the day’ a show that appealed to a wide demographic. The writers were clever then.

Now it’s a show for Children with nothing in the narrative for adults to relate to.

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By *issy SiMan
over a year ago

Horsham

So you've heard the rumours about the vegan lesbian dolphin as well then...?

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By *inkybi99Man
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Pish woke BBC

Vegan Daleks with pronouns don't cut it. It's a no from me.

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By *hristine_JTV/TS
over a year ago

Anglesey

I don't know, amoral killers that don't eat animal products sounds totally ruthless to me

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By *arla999 OP Man
over a year ago

glasgow

Have to admit, Jamie has always been the most sexy of all his companions, looked great in his kilt

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By *at1_4uMan
over a year ago

Bristol

You are viewing it as an adult but dreaming of being young and scared.

Maybe then 1 hr story lines it needs to run over a serries ( not seasons as the yanks say ).

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By *raig_KJMan
over a year ago

Southport

Regeneration Scene filmed for the latest Dr in only his second season.

Talk about it being Shelved.

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By *andomguy321Man
over a year ago

reading

"Regeneration Scene filmed for the latest Dr in only his second season.

Talk about it being Shelved."

What's he going to turn into this time then? .... They're running out of progressive cliches.

(and an audience)

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By *airyverscubMan
over a year ago

Near You

"Having watched doctor who since 1973 did not enJoy the Christmas offering "

I’ve not watched it since Jodie Whittaker took over in 2017. The show completely lost its way then. Sadly it’s to far gone now.

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By *ublinBottomGuyMan
over a year ago

Dublin

"Having watched doctor who since 1973 did not enJoy the Christmas offering

I’ve not watched it since Jodie Whittaker took over in 2017. The show completely lost its way then. Sadly it’s to far gone now. "

If you haven't watched it in over 8 years, how the fuck do you know how far it's gone?v

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By *airyverscubMan
over a year ago

Near You

"If it was a choice of listening to Coldplay or watching an episode of Dr Who, I guess it would have to be Dr Who.

But only just."

If they were my only choices now. I’d have to choose a third options, an industrial catering toaster in a hot tube full of Epsom salts.

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By *leepflowerMan
over a year ago

Leek

The Doctor isn't the only thing that regenerates around here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Been watching it on BBC iPlayer every night in bed just to see what boots the lovely Amy Pond is wearing

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By *omo-ErectusMan
over a year ago

Bolton

There has never been a bad Doctor (even Cushing was good), just bad writing.

Remember when 4th Doctor fell off the aeriel and just before he morphed into 5th, the odd white figure had to jump in him first?

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By *ichey6Man
over a year ago

aberdeen

"The Doctor isn't the only thing that regenerates around here. "

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Haha... Hurty words, grim ideologies and volte-faces re football teams supported.

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By *exartMan
over a year ago

Benfleet

Well,they've stripped the sets and put the studio spaces up for hire so i gues the production with either be moving to another studio,or thats the end of that.

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By *ensualblokeMan
over a year ago

London /Colchester

"Well,they've stripped the sets and put the studio spaces up for hire so i gues the production with either be moving to another studio,or thats the end of that."

This. And it started a couple of months ago- so the writing was very much on the wall. People having to sign NDA's about isn't a good sign either.

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By *raig_KJMan
over a year ago

Southport

They messed with the formula

They alienated its key supporters

It’s ended up being extremely boring and badly written.

I feel sorry for the technical crew and the actors, I feel sorry for the fans.

The Writers and the producers are incompetent and their agenda has been catastrophic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It peaked with Tom Baker and that generation of viewers. Very old hat nonsense now.

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By *raig_KJMan
1 week ago

Southport

Finally after a long wait, RTD and Badwolf productions give up on Doctor Who.

Perhaps and it’s only perhaps. A new direction with better writers, will be pursued.

Good Riddance RTD and BWP

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By *arla999 OP Man
7 days ago

glasgow

"Finally after a long wait, RTD and Badwolf productions give up on Doctor Who.

Perhaps and it’s only perhaps. A new direction with better writers, will be pursued.

Good Riddance RTD and BWP"

N'Cuti Gatwa was good as Doctor Who, good looking and sexy, particularly in the episode he wore his kilt, but the scripts were rotten, boring abd too woke

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By *wej1Man
7 days ago

Grantham

The best thing to happen as the show needs a non fan with an inflated ego to run it,with a wide selection of writers to push the envelope

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By *atemate101Man
7 days ago

Crosby

Cwej1.

The perfect solution.

Make it Dark Who, like Black Mirror.

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By *odomyLoverMan
6 days ago

coulsdon

"One of my favourite stories was.

THE PYRAMIDS OF MARS.l

I watched it first time round as a child.

This along with GENESIS OF THE DALEKS are Classics.

Today’s efforts are not in the same league.

Genesis if the Daleks was a brilliant long running story.

They should go back to those

Dr Who is heading towards retirement."

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By *raig_KJMan
6 days ago

Southport

"One of my favourite stories was.

THE PYRAMIDS OF MARS.l

I watched it first time round as a child.

This along with GENESIS OF THE DALEKS are Classics.

Today’s efforts are not in the same league.

Genesis of the Daleks was a brilliant long running story.

They should go back to those

Dr Who is heading towards retirement."

It’s certainly not looked good for a few years.

Scrap Mrs Browns Boy, and use the cash for a Doctor Who Revival.

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By *xmareMan
6 days ago

Norwich

It's cheap to make, it fills the schedules and it is for some unknown reason a national institution. Could be written and produced by AI, and perhaps it already is. So why bother innovating?

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By *andballerMan
4 days ago

leek

Never really been a who fan,tom baker was the doctor when i was young...I much prefered space 1999 or ufo...

It is a shame though that another institution has been destroyed by the bbc,s wokeness.....A great pity.

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By *ichey6Man
4 days ago

aberdeen

"The best thing to happen as the show needs a non fan with an inflated ego to run it,with a wide selection of writers to push the envelope"

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I'm in. Malcolm Tucker will seem like a meek choir boy. No more fannying around to appease the woke. The Doctor is to be reinvented as an axe-murdering reform voter...

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By *wej1Man
4 days ago

Grantham

"It's cheap to make, it fills the schedules and it is for some unknown reason a national institution. Could be written and produced by AI, and perhaps it already is. So why bother innovating?"

Who said its cheap to make

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By *ichey6Man
4 days ago

aberdeen

From here on in it's a shoestring. Back to basics. Where's my Guinness?

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By *ampshire biMan
4 days ago

Alton

Never been the same since Jenna Coleman left. The impossible girl.

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By *artokMan
4 days ago

Wokingham

"From here on in it's a shoestring. Back to basics. Where's my Guinness? "

I think you have something there.

(No, not the guinness)

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