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"Was taking atorvostatin 90mg for year and a half . Aches and pains around joints and muscle weakness for me . Ended up detatching .y bicep moving a box in the back of my van and have lifted heavy items all my life . Back on a different one now at 5mg . Everyone different im afraid " | |||
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"Apart from the unpleasant leg cramps I’ve not really noticed much. " . I've been taking them 20 years. They do cause tiredness, just means you have to ride over it and crack on. Aldo my breast size has increased. Heart specialist said the statins cause this. Hormone thing. Strangely some guys find it attractive on me lol | |||
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"Apart from the unpleasant leg cramps I’ve not really noticed much. . I've been taking them 20 years. They do cause tiredness, just means you have to ride over it and crack on. Aldo my breast size has increased. Heart specialist said the statins cause this. Hormone thing. Strangely some guys find it attractive on me lol" Big tit? | |||
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"Do you have to be subscribed them or can you get them over the counter?" You have to be prescribed them. Your GP will assess your need based on cholesterol level, blood pressure, age and other risk factors. The whole lot goes into a calculation which assesses your risk of heart attack or stroke. If your risk factor is around 10% or higher then your GP will then prescribe accordingly. It could be statins, or other medication designed to lower blood pressure. There will also be some discussion around lifestyle, diet, exercise, smoking habits etc. | |||
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"From personal and family experience I would advise that anyone avoids statins as far as possible. They are not 'the panacea for all ails' that the medical profession would have you believe. Over the last 20 years i have been on all of them and suffered the same from each. Mainly muscle weakness, with problems walking any distance. Even my doctor said ' i had a pronounced gait', so he agreed that I should give them up. Never felt better and can walk properly. Also through diet lowered my cholesterol. don't forget they get paid good money for prescribing them." Completely disagree with this post. There's alot of drama about cramp and muscle pain, recent study shows it's unsound. I've been on them for 5 years and totally no side affects apart from reducing cholesterol. They are a no brainier. | |||
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"Hi. Just to put into context about GPs being paid to prescribe statins. GPs in England get paid about £155 per patient on their list per year. It is irrelevant if you see your GP once a year or weekly. Or never. There is a “bonus” scheme - this is a top for working in specific ways usually which improve the health of the population (like vaccines) or save money (like doing minor ops in the practice rather than sending fur hospital care). There is one on statins and that is for patients with Type 1 diabetes which has been diagnosed first more than 10 years in patients of any age or in anyone over 40. They get a one off payment of £208 (on average - prices vary slightly by region). If you are on statins and you don’t have diabetes there is no top up payment. That one off £208 pays for the 6 prescriptions per year for as long as the patient is treated. It is unusual as most of the incentive schemes under the Quality Outcomes Framework give bonuses for reducing activity - statins are viewed as reducing burden of intervention by replacing one heart attack with 100% chance of major impacts with 10 people on tablets that have a less than 1% of moderate/major side effects each. That does not mean the person suffering a major side effect requiring him being taken off the drugs doesn’t suffer. But for every one with significant cramps or gait issues or insomnia etc, ten people will have avoided a heart attack and so 3 deaths are avoided. In general GPs are not make significant uplifts prescribing more drugs. Full disclosure - I am a health care workers who does not work in cardiac services, diabetes or GP services or indeed finance. I work in standards of care in in-hospital settings for non-doctor clinical staff. " | |||
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"Hi. Just to put into context about GPs being paid to prescribe statins. GPs in England get paid about £155 per patient on their list per year. It is irrelevant if you see your GP once a year or weekly. Or never. There is a “bonus” scheme - this is a top for working in specific ways usually which improve the health of the population (like vaccines) or save money (like doing minor ops in the practice rather than sending fur hospital care). There is one on statins and that is for patients with Type 1 diabetes which has been diagnosed first more than 10 years in patients of any age or in anyone over 40. They get a one off payment of £208 (on average - prices vary slightly by region). If you are on statins and you don’t have diabetes there is no top up payment. That one off £208 pays for the 6 prescriptions per year for as long as the patient is treated. It is unusual as most of the incentive schemes under the Quality Outcomes Framework give bonuses for reducing activity - statins are viewed as reducing burden of intervention by replacing one heart attack with 100% chance of major impacts with 10 people on tablets that have a less than 1% of moderate/major side effects each. That does not mean the person suffering a major side effect requiring him being taken off the drugs doesn’t suffer. But for every one with significant cramps or gait issues or insomnia etc, ten people will have avoided a heart attack and so 3 deaths are avoided. In general GPs are not make significant uplifts prescribing more drugs. Full disclosure - I am a health care workers who does not work in cardiac services, diabetes or GP services or indeed finance. I work in standards of care in in-hospital settings for non-doctor clinical staff. " "That one off £208 pays for the 6 prescriptions per year for as long as the patient is treated". That statement doesn't make sense, one off vs for as long as! Nah you sound like you have an axe to grind. Why do original posts seeking advice end quickly into conspiracy theory? What was your theory on covid vaccines? On no please spare us all. | |||
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"From personal and family experience I would advise that anyone avoids statins as far as possible. They are not 'the panacea for all ails' that the medical profession would have you believe. Over the last 20 years i have been on all of them and suffered the same from each. Mainly muscle weakness, with problems walking any distance. Even my doctor said ' i had a pronounced gait', so he agreed that I should give them up. Never felt better and can walk properly. Also through diet lowered my cholesterol. don't forget they get paid good money for prescribing them. Completely disagree with this post. There's alot of drama about cramp and muscle pain, recent study shows it's unsound. I've been on them for 5 years and totally no side affects apart from reducing cholesterol. They are a no brainier." Strange post,disagreeing with my GP,do you know my medical history better tnan him? He wrote about my 'gait' in my notes after watching me walk to his office. I can only speak for myselff and say that I can now walk properly and distance. No cramps or leg pains. I stear cleer of statins. | |||
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"A side effect of travel insurance premiums increasing as soon as you tell them you are taking statins. " Yes, one of the many prescription drugs you are obliged to tell any insurance company, both life insurance AND car insurance too, also if you are a lorry driver, train driver, ambulance driver, taxi driver, and also travel/holiday insurance too! | |||
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"Has anyone informed "ALL" their insurance companies that they are taking prescription drugs, as it does say, especially for motor vehicles insurance?" "Has anyone informed "ALL" their insurance companies that they are taking prescription drugs, as it does say, especially for motor vehicles insurance?" Mine says prescription drugs as recommended by the DVLA. Statins are not on that list. | |||
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"Reading through this thread I see a few of you are attributing such things as joint aches, muscle cramps, stomach cramps, brain fog etc to statins. Do wonder if they are in fact due to the natural ageing process. I suffer most of the afore mentioned. However they have only really kicked in in about the last 3 years yet I've been taking statins for at least 15 years and, apart from some initial itching and minor rashes, had none of these side affects. The only one I will say is that you are recommended to take them at night. If I take them immediately before bed I do get a bit of stomach discomfort and trouble getting to sleep. I now tend to take them 2 to 3 hours before going to bed." Taking statins on an evening is only necessary if the specific statin is 'short acting'. Atorvastatin (for example) is long acting and has a long half-life in the body. There is therefore no merit in taking it at night. | |||
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"Been on artovastin for 18months my blood sugar levels were 4.9 results last week were 2.4 doc was shocked by the results and happy for me to stay on them as an insurance policy as he described it, not really seen any side effects " Statins don't affect blood sugar levels. A blood sugar level of 2.4 is hypo in a medical emergency or worse. 3.8 would be a normal low level and around 8 a high after meals. You must be talking cholesterol. | |||
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"Reading through this thread I see a few of you are attributing such things as joint aches, muscle cramps, stomach cramps, brain fog etc to statins. Do wonder if they are in fact due to the natural ageing process. I suffer most of the afore mentioned. However they have only really kicked in in about the last 3 years yet I've been taking statins for at least 15 years and, apart from some initial itching and minor rashes, had none of these side affects. The only one I will say is that you are recommended to take them at night. If I take them immediately before bed I do get a bit of stomach discomfort and trouble getting to sleep. I now tend to take them 2 to 3 hours before going to bed. Taking statins on an evening is only necessary if the specific statin is 'short acting'. Atorvastatin (for example) is long acting and has a long half-life in the body. There is therefore no merit in taking it at night. " Your body produces most cholesterol at night, atorvastatin is quickly absorbed by the body and reaches peak concentration 1-2 hours after taking it - there is merit in taking atorvastatin at night. | |||
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" The only one I will say is that you are recommended to take them at night. If I take them immediately before bed I do get a bit of stomach discomfort and trouble getting to sleep. I now tend to take them 2 to 3 hours before going to bed. Taking statins on an evening is only necessary if the specific statin is 'short acting'. Atorvastatin (for example) is long acting and has a long half-life in the body. There is therefore no merit in taking it at night. " So many different statins. The ones I take are Pravastatins. Recommended you take them at night. Says so on the box. Also consulted GP on the subject. | |||
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