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"I eat seasonal and local fruit and veg, sometimes from the market and sometimes from a local farm. Meat comes from a good local butcher. Can’t get much fresher or more healthy than buying direct and generally it’s no more expensive than from a supermarket when you take into account the minimal wastage by buying just what is needed rather than, for example, 2.5kg potatoes when only 1.5kg is needed. Avoid processed and packaged foods, eat seasonally and it’s healthy." Yes, I agree with that. But not everybody can not afford to eat that way. It's more expensive to buy in a butcher or local food shop than in the supermarket. You can blame the government for this. | |||
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"I eat seasonal and local fruit and veg, sometimes from the market and sometimes from a local farm. Meat comes from a good local butcher. Can’t get much fresher or more healthy than buying direct and generally it’s no more expensive than from a supermarket when you take into account the minimal wastage by buying just what is needed rather than, for example, 2.5kg potatoes when only 1.5kg is needed. Avoid processed and packaged foods, eat seasonally and it’s healthy. Yes, I agree with that. But not everybody can not afford to eat that way. It's more expensive to buy in a butcher or local food shop than in the supermarket. You can blame the government for this. " If true, why is it the government's fault that a butcher or local shop is more expensive than a supermarket? Also, I'm not convinced that such food is any better, it's more down to perception. | |||
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"If obese people just ate less, they would be thinner and it would be cheaper for them too." It doesn't matter the amount of food you eat. It's the ingredients such as sugar, oils And preservatives that make you put on weight. A lot of food nowadays has oils that the body cannot break down very well, so it is stored as fat. food today is mainly sugar the body stores sugar as energy, which is fat. So it's not the amount of food you eat, it's the ingredients. Look at all the pictures back in the 70s. Everyone was thin because they ate healthily. There were hardly any sugars and oils in the foods unlike there is today. Do your research. All the calories we consume today are sugar, oils and preservatives, which are hard for the body to break down That's why there is a higher percentage of obese people and unhealthy people. | |||
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"They want you to eat healthy but make all the unhealthy food really cheap and the healthy food really expensive. I want his fruit and veg. It's not exactly fresh. It's normally stored in the gas which keeps it looking ripe For months. So an apple you're eating could be anything up to ten months+ old but still looks fresh and healthy. And if you drink fruit juices it's not fresh and healthy, even though it's fruit the added Sugar keeps it preserved longer And adds more flavour because the fruit lost its nutrition. What are your thoughts on this? Should we Be complaining or just live the life of poor nutrition and an unhealthy lifestyle Obesity and other illnesses concerning lack of nutrition?" What you say may well be true for a lot of fruit and veg, but that’s what happens when we expect “permanent global summertime” so that we can buy strawberries in December and asparagus in August. Also, the manufacturers will be using the same food so … Eat fresh veg cooked yourself, go vegetarian (or at least cut down on meat and fish) and your food bills will come down and you will eat better. The difference between the 70s and a few decades later is we didn’t have microwave ready meals, and the few pre-prepared things as a main course were few and far between. People cooked, not just reheated and mixed packet stuff. Also, look at all the kebab shops, pizza places, burger places, instant food delivery of those items and compare it to the 70s when they were almost non-existent. People have not changed since then but the take-away shops and ultra-processed food availability definitely has mushroomed since then. | |||
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"Food is expensive But if people cooked more themselves they could eat healthier A slow cooker is fantastic much better than an air fryer You can cook meals to last for days Not saying don’t have a take away But for some you could give away veg & still wouldn’t eat it " I agree. But like you said, food is expensive and cannot afford to buy healthy food. It's always processed. high in sugar, high in oils and high in preservatives. | |||
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"If obese people just ate less, they would be thinner and it would be cheaper for them too." Alright Katie hopkins | |||
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"If obese people just ate less, they would be thinner and it would be cheaper for them too. It doesn't matter the amount of food you eat. It's the ingredients such as sugar, oils And preservatives that make you put on weight. A lot of food nowadays has oils that the body cannot break down very well, so it is stored as fat. food today is mainly sugar the body stores sugar as energy, which is fat. So it's not the amount of food you eat, it's the ingredients. Look at all the pictures back in the 70s. Everyone was thin because they ate healthily. There were hardly any sugars and oils in the foods unlike there is today. Do your research. All the calories we consume today are sugar, oils and preservatives, which are hard for the body to break down That's why there is a higher percentage of obese people and unhealthy people." Hahahah, let me guess what foods you are shopping in the supermarket. Instead of complaining about all the sugar and oils (yes, your statement is true), try buying raw whole foods instead, and cook them yourself- simple. | |||
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"If obese people just ate less, they would be thinner and it would be cheaper for them too." How very dare you | |||
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"If obese people just ate less, they would be thinner and it would be cheaper for them too. Alright Katie hopkins" He's correct though. | |||
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"The main problem with our diets today is what some nutritionists describe as 'ultra processed' food. These can loosely be defined as products where the ingredients would not normally be found in the kitchen store cupboard. Things like modified starches, emulsifiers, diglycerides of fatty acids etc. These products are often designed to be calorie dense, but easy to chew and swallow. Consequently we consume more calories than we require, and too quickly ... think Homer Simpson and doughnuts! Take a look around the supermarket shelves and you will soon realise that this is what the manufacturers and supermarkets want to sell us. That's where the profit is. And that's why those foods are designed to be addictive. But, once that has become your normal diet it is very difficult to break free from it. It not only requires a lot of effort, thought and will power, but also a basic level of culinary skill. I learnt those skills from my mother, but how many modern parents either possess those skills or are passing them on?" This. In spades. You've only to look at a simple food like bread. Bread should be just flour, water and yeast, right? And maybe some salt. But no, the big bread producers have put all sorts of other crap in it, preservatives, emulsifiers, god knows what else. Oh, and sugar! When did we start needing sugar in ordinary bread? Consequently I no longer buy bread at all. My mother bakes her own and I eat that when I visit but otherwise they can keep it and all the crap they put in it. | |||
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"Snacking is one of the biggest problems, years ago people didn't snack. You never saw people eating or drinking whilst on the move. Fresh fruit and veg is much better for you but people like the convenience of prepared foods. Eat less, move more. It's not difficult " I am sure one Asian country bans people while walking on the pavement | |||
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"I eat seasonal and local fruit and veg, sometimes from the market and sometimes from a local farm. Meat comes from a good local butcher. Can’t get much fresher or more healthy than buying direct and generally it’s no more expensive than from a supermarket when you take into account the minimal wastage by buying just what is needed rather than, for example, 2.5kg potatoes when only 1.5kg is needed. Avoid processed and packaged foods, eat seasonally and it’s healthy. Yes, I agree with that. But not everybody can not afford to eat that way. It's more expensive to buy in a butcher or local food shop than in the supermarket. You can blame the government for this. If true, why is it the government's fault that a butcher or local shop is more expensive than a supermarket? Also, I'm not convinced that such food is any better, it's more down to perception." Decent, healthy food is more expensive because the farmers and producers have to comply with strict rules to meet government rules. All these rules are very expensive, and farmers can't afford to live when they're following the government's rules. | |||
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"Partly what you learn growing up. I've just made a very healthy tasty chicken soup, left over chicken from a roast meal. Added carrot, leeks, swede, parsnip, red pepper some red lentils. Will be enough for 2 or 3 meals, really cheap, low fat and packed with tasty vegetables. Much less expensive than a ready meal or pasties etc." | |||
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"Grow your own" Got allotment Grow absolutely grow loads of stuff Admittedly quieter just now as winter season , but springs coming | |||
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"If obese people just ate less, they would be thinner and it would be cheaper for them too. It doesn't matter the amount of food you eat. It's the ingredients such as sugar, oils And preservatives that make you put on weight. A lot of food nowadays has oils that the body cannot break down very well, so it is stored as fat. food today is mainly sugar the body stores sugar as energy, which is fat. So it's not the amount of food you eat, it's the ingredients. Look at all the pictures back in the 70s. Everyone was thin because they ate healthily. There were hardly any sugars and oils in the foods unlike there is today. Do your research. All the calories we consume today are sugar, oils and preservatives, which are hard for the body to break down That's why there is a higher percentage of obese people and unhealthy people." This actually isn’t true, losing weight is as simple as eating less calories than what your maintenance is. For example, at my current weight and height, if I eat 2000 calories everyday then I’ll stay the same wait If I eat 1800 everyday then I’ll lose 0.5lbs per week If I eat 2200 everyday then I’ll put on 0.5lbs per week (paired with going to the gym then this will build into muscle rather than fat) If I wanted to lose weight, it doesn’t necessarily matter what I eat, as long as I eat below my maintenance calories. Mark Haub did a study on it, for 10 weeks his diet consisted of mainly twinkies and Doritos, and in those 10 weeks he lost 27lbs, because he was in a calorie deficit. Of course if you eat a lot of high calorie foods such as chocolates, sweets, crisps, then you’ll just always be hungry, and naturally eat more calories then. Whereas, if you want to eat lower calorie foods but still be satiated and full, that’s when you need to pay attention to the macronutrients. Eating low calorie but high fibre and protein meals will make you feel a lot more full. A chicken salad and a bag of Doritos can have roughly the same calories, but you’ll feel a lot more full with the salad. All in all, if your goal is to simply lose weight, then you need to be in a calorie deficit | |||
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"And since I started eating healthy food, non-processed food I've lost 4 stone. I am now 17 stone. I can afford it now I have a bit more money coming in. Sadly, a high percentage of people in the UK. Don't have a good income, so they have to eat processed and s*i* food. Just blame the government for making healthy food really expensive and processed food really cheap." It's not the government it's the supermarkets and food manufacturers. Everything you buy in a supermarket has gone through a factory. Having worked in the food industry for years I know a lot of the wrinkles. Chicken is a healthy low fat meat right? Wrong when it's a supermarket processed sliced packet of sandwich meat. 23% fat in the cheapest form. It's made up of chicken skin imported from Brazil. Cheap and easy to process. Mix it with chicken muscle add various carcinogenic salts. Nitrates, polyphosphates which when water is added and the whole lot is macerated together forms a slurry. The salts helps keep the water in the emulsion. Put it into plastic skins and steam it. Once cooked and sliced it resembles meat. It cheap because you are buying fat, water and salt with I little added chicken. Delicious | |||
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"If obese people just ate less, they would be thinner and it would be cheaper for them too." A fat guy is well fed = successful and secure | |||
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"Grow your own Got allotment Grow absolutely grow loads of stuff Admittedly quieter just now as winter season , but springs coming" I grow a few things in my garden, but an allotment is neither cost or time effective for the majority of people. | |||
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"And since I started eating healthy food, non-processed food I've lost 4 stone. I am now 17 stone. I can afford it now I have a bit more money coming in. Sadly, a high percentage of people in the UK. Don't have a good income, so they have to eat processed and s*i* food. Just blame the government for making healthy food really expensive and processed food really cheap. It's not the government it's the supermarkets and food manufacturers. Everything you buy in a supermarket has gone through a factory. Having worked in the food industry for years I know a lot of the wrinkles. Chicken is a healthy low fat meat right? Wrong when it's a supermarket processed sliced packet of sandwich meat. 23% fat in the cheapest form. It's made up of chicken skin imported from Brazil. Cheap and easy to process. Mix it with chicken muscle add various carcinogenic salts. Nitrates, polyphosphates which when water is added and the whole lot is macerated together forms a slurry. The salts helps keep the water in the emulsion. Put it into plastic skins and steam it. Once cooked and sliced it resembles meat. It cheap because you are buying fat, water and salt with I little added chicken. Delicious " Interesting insight into the utter shit they sell us. Even fresh meat is injected so full of water you can't fry it properly. Why are they allowed to do this? | |||
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"Fat people do buy local. The local Greggs, the local Maccies, the local chippie." Oh no we don't. I try to buy locally. I eat a lot of fruit and veg plus avoid a lot of 'fast food', pre-prepared food, sweets, biscuits, cakes etc. Don't avoid them altogether as that is almost impossible. I try to eat healthily but have had a weight problem all my life. Admittedly I am less mobile these days and don't get enough exercise, but even when I was fit e.g. working long hours, playing rugby, working out at the gym, going for long walks etc. I still constantly 'battled the bulge' | |||
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"It's not the government it's the supermarkets and food manufacturers. Everything you buy in a supermarket has gone through a factory. Having worked in the food industry for years I know a lot of the wrinkles. Chicken is a healthy low fat meat right? Wrong when it's a supermarket processed sliced packet of sandwich meat. 23% fat in the cheapest form. It's made up of chicken skin imported from Brazil. Cheap and easy to process. Mix it with chicken muscle add various carcinogenic salts. Nitrates, polyphosphates which when water is added and the whole lot is macerated together forms a slurry. The salts helps keep the water in the emulsion. Put it into plastic skins and steam it. Once cooked and sliced it resembles meat. It cheap because you are buying fat, water and salt with I little added chicken. Delicious " Excellent insight | |||
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"It's not the government it's the supermarkets and food manufacturers. Everything you buy in a supermarket has gone through a factory. Having worked in the food industry for years I know a lot of the wrinkles. Chicken is a healthy low fat meat right? Wrong when it's a supermarket processed sliced packet of sandwich meat. 23% fat in the cheapest form. It's made up of chicken skin imported from Brazil. Cheap and easy to process. Mix it with chicken muscle add various carcinogenic salts. Nitrates, polyphosphates which when water is added and the whole lot is macerated together forms a slurry. The salts helps keep the water in the emulsion. Put it into plastic skins and steam it. Once cooked and sliced it resembles meat. It cheap because you are buying fat, water and salt with I little added chicken. Delicious Excellent insight " Knowledgeable and sexy as ….. WOW | |||
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"Just blame the government for making healthy food really expensive and processed food really cheap." Zero to do with government, the UK is a free market economy. The reason processed foods are cheaper is because manufacturers buy in bulk and mass produce using lower quality ingredients and cheap fillers to bulk them up, resulting in a poorer quality and less nutritious meal. You can create exactly the same product using just the necessary ingredients, it will be tastier and healthier without preservatives and additives. Loads of resources online for recipes to make good and low budget meals. Cook in larger quantities and freeze. Stick to seasonal products as that is when they are at their cheapest and better for your immune system because they are fresher, more nutritious, and contain higher levels of vitamins and minerals. | |||
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"They want you to eat healthy but make all the unhealthy food really cheap and the healthy food really expensive. I want his fruit and veg. It's not exactly fresh. It's normally stored in the gas which keeps it looking ripe For months. So an apple you're eating could be anything up to ten months+ old but still looks fresh and healthy. And if you drink fruit juices it's not fresh and healthy, even though it's fruit the added Sugar keeps it preserved longer And adds more flavour because the fruit lost its nutrition. What are your thoughts on this? Should we Be complaining or just live the life of poor nutrition and an unhealthy lifestyle Obesity and other illnesses concerning lack of nutrition?. If you can't afford to buy fresh local produce, tinned food is full of nutrients. That's the advantage of tinned food. It's sealed and retains all it's goodness" 👇👇👇👇👇👇 | |||
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"And since I started eating healthy food, non-processed food I've lost 4 stone. I am now 17 stone. I can afford it now I have a bit more money coming in. Sadly, a high percentage of people in the UK. Don't have a good income, so they have to eat processed and s*i* food. Just blame the government for making healthy food really expensive and processed food really cheap. It's not the government it's the supermarkets and food manufacturers. Everything you buy in a supermarket has gone through a factory. Having worked in the food industry for years I know a lot of the wrinkles. Chicken is a healthy low fat meat right? Wrong when it's a supermarket processed sliced packet of sandwich meat. 23% fat in the cheapest form. It's made up of chicken skin imported from Brazil. Cheap and easy to process. Mix it with chicken muscle add various carcinogenic salts. Nitrates, polyphosphates which when water is added and the whole lot is macerated together forms a slurry. The salts helps keep the water in the emulsion. Put it into plastic skins and steam it. Once cooked and sliced it resembles meat. It cheap because you are buying fat, water and salt with I little added chicken. Delicious " THIS! Most people don’t have a clue about the grim stuff that the food industry does and the power of the supermarkets to shape the country’s eating habits, farming, the livelihoods of farmers, local built environment and the availability of shopping alternatives. | |||
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"As another poster mentioned about bread - make it yourself. I mix flour, salt, yeast and water in a bowl then cover & put it in the cupboard. Take it out, fold it four times and back in the cupboard- do that twice. Take out, roll into a ball and put in a basket in the cupboard. Later pop in the oven for 45 minutes. Remove, cool and enjoy. The result is natural, real, tasty proper bread. So simple, and your time involvement is about 20 minutes total I’d reckon. I can’t believe that the majority of people eat the expensive plastic-wrapped pappy crap from supermarkets. Try it and you’ll wonder why you don’t do it years ago. " Once you taste real bread, there is no going bread. Look at the ingredients on a bought loaf, about 13. On a home made load, 5 or 6 natural ingredients. | |||
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"Grow your own Got allotment Grow absolutely grow loads of stuff Admittedly quieter just now as winter season , but springs coming I grow a few things in my garden, but an allotment is neither cost or time effective for the majority of people." Yes if you cost what I grow against a supermarket,then its probably not cost effective.But I only grow veg that are expensive in the shops, no cabbages,lots of beans etc. I know how my veg was grown naturally ,without chemicals and without food miles.Having been to mine today and spent a morning digging,its also good exercise,which in turn aids health and well being. | |||
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"Grow your own Got allotment Grow absolutely grow loads of stuff Admittedly quieter just now as winter season , but springs coming I grow a few things in my garden, but an allotment is neither cost or time effective for the majority of people. Yes if you cost what I grow against a supermarket,then its probably not cost effective.But I only grow veg that are expensive in the shops, no cabbages,lots of beans etc. I know how my veg was grown naturally ,without chemicals and without food miles.Having been to mine today and spent a morning digging,its also good exercise,which in turn aids health and well being." Of course it's cost effective The added bonus natural stuff that tastes like food! | |||
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"There are millions of people to feed. We also eat in winter. Out of the growing season I am happy to eat vegetables and fruit in December. Thank you to science for helping us keep food preserved. Go to Aldi. Cabbage. Carrots. Taters. Leeks. Aubergines. Bananas..Oranges...FFS there's every veg and fruit under the sun. You can eat very healthy if you want toI. f you're a fatty there's only one person to blame....and it aint the PM. Stay away from the processed shit." It's always someone else's fault. | |||
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"Grow your own Got allotment Grow absolutely grow loads of stuff Admittedly quieter just now as winter season , but springs coming I grow a few things in my garden, but an allotment is neither cost or time effective for the majority of people. Yes if you cost what I grow against a supermarket,then its probably not cost effective.But I only grow veg that are expensive in the shops, no cabbages,lots of beans etc. I know how my veg was grown naturally ,without chemicals and without food miles.Having been to mine today and spent a morning digging,its also good exercise,which in turn aids health and well being. Of course it's cost effective " Taking into account the low cost of fruit and veg, glut crops that don't keep, and the actual time it takes to plant, grow, water and tend to an allotment, how can it possibly be cost-effective? People need to work for a living and also have family duties and chores to attend to. It seems as if no value is being given to people's time, I could earn at least 10 times the amount of money I could possibly save by growing my own. | |||
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"Grow your own Got allotment Grow absolutely grow loads of stuff Admittedly quieter just now as winter season , but springs coming I grow a few things in my garden, but an allotment is neither cost or time effective for the majority of people. Yes if you cost what I grow against a supermarket,then its probably not cost effective.But I only grow veg that are expensive in the shops, no cabbages,lots of beans etc. I know how my veg was grown naturally ,without chemicals and without food miles.Having been to mine today and spent a morning digging,its also good exercise,which in turn aids health and well being. Of course it's cost effective Taking into account the low cost of fruit and veg, glut crops that don't keep, and the actual time it takes to plant, grow, water and tend to an allotment, how can it possibly be cost-effective? People need to work for a living and also have family duties and chores to attend to. It seems as if no value is being given to people's time, I could earn at least 10 times the amount of money I could possibly save by growing my own." You're hardly sitting on a seat 24/7 waiting for your plants to grow ffs You ain't at allotment for hours Better than sitting on your fat ass doing sweet fuck all | |||
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"Grow your own Got allotment Grow absolutely grow loads of stuff Admittedly quieter just now as winter season , but springs coming I grow a few things in my garden, but an allotment is neither cost or time effective for the majority of people. Yes if you cost what I grow against a supermarket,then its probably not cost effective.But I only grow veg that are expensive in the shops, no cabbages,lots of beans etc. I know how my veg was grown naturally ,without chemicals and without food miles.Having been to mine today and spent a morning digging,its also good exercise,which in turn aids health and well being. Of course it's cost effective Taking into account the low cost of fruit and veg, glut crops that don't keep, and the actual time it takes to plant, grow, water and tend to an allotment, how can it possibly be cost-effective? People need to work for a living and also have family duties and chores to attend to. It seems as if no value is being given to people's time, I could earn at least 10 times the amount of money I could possibly save by growing my own. You're hardly sitting on a seat 24/7 waiting for your plants to grow ffs You ain't at allotment for hours Better than sitting on your fat ass doing sweet fuck all" The previous poster said he was there all morning, and in the summer you sometimes have to visit twice a day. Having a job where you earn far more than you could save by growing your own is far from 'sitting on your fat ass doing sweet fuck all'. Maybe that's just something you're not capable of achieving or understanding | |||
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"Grow your own Got allotment Grow absolutely grow loads of stuff Admittedly quieter just now as winter season , but springs coming I grow a few things in my garden, but an allotment is neither cost or time effective for the majority of people. Yes if you cost what I grow against a supermarket,then its probably not cost effective.But I only grow veg that are expensive in the shops, no cabbages,lots of beans etc. I know how my veg was grown naturally ,without chemicals and without food miles.Having been to mine today and spent a morning digging,its also good exercise,which in turn aids health and well being. Of course it's cost effective Taking into account the low cost of fruit and veg, glut crops that don't keep, and the actual time it takes to plant, grow, water and tend to an allotment, how can it possibly be cost-effective? People need to work for a living and also have family duties and chores to attend to. It seems as if no value is being given to people's time, I could earn at least 10 times the amount of money I could possibly save by growing my own. You're hardly sitting on a seat 24/7 waiting for your plants to grow ffs You ain't at allotment for hours Better than sitting on your fat ass doing sweet fuck all The previous poster said he was there all morning, and in the summer you sometimes have to visit twice a day. Having a job where you earn far more than you could save by growing your own is far from 'sitting on your fat ass doing sweet fuck all'. Maybe that's just something you're not capable of achieving or understanding " And as we know on here you're always right! | |||
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"My take regarding allotments in the forties it was dig baby dig. My grandfather got an allotment and it was a necessary lifestyle no other choice. Imports restricted by sea and rationing. He kept the family fed with fruit n veg and was doing it till aged over 90. In early years He went to the allotment at 6am to sort things then off on the train to work at the London Bridge docks. When he came home he was a fire warden in the evenings. So we are spoilt today. The community spirit was good on the allotment the old boys taught him and later he taught the younger guys what to do. They shared produce and dug the other guys plot when they were unable to do so. Moving on in the seventies when I was at school I got into the home economics class with one other lad the rest were girls we were lucky to do it. They taught us all the skills and cooking techniques and nutritional knowledge for cookery a really useful thing still to this day. We should be teaching young people the same skills. If we dont they'll be dependent on pre packed stuff. I see it everyday in my supermarket. " Yes I got into allotment at a young age, and the old guys taught me how to dig, sow etc, and what to plant at what time of year. All the allotments along the old railway line, 100s of them, are now gone. | |||
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"I know it’s been said on this thread but cook your own food. Control sugar, fats and quantities of the ingredients yourself. And cook smartly and batch cook a little more to reduce the cost. I’ve just fed 7 plus enough left for tomorrow meal for one for around £9 to £10 for the lot. Healthy meal, everyone happy with what they ate " Yep just add a bit of pastry work and a bit of protein to your produce and you have all the pies tarts puddings pastries stewed fruit compote whatever all easy to do. | |||
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