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By *non-ita OP   Man
3 days ago

Bristol

They want you to eat healthy but make all the unhealthy food really cheap and the healthy food really expensive.

I want his fruit and veg. It's not exactly fresh. It's normally stored in the gas which keeps it looking ripe For months. So an apple you're eating could be anything up to ten months+ old but still looks fresh and healthy. And if you drink fruit juices it's not fresh and healthy, even though it's fruit the added Sugar keeps it preserved longer And adds more flavour because the fruit lost its nutrition.

What are your thoughts on this? Should we Be complaining or just live the life of poor nutrition and an unhealthy lifestyle Obesity and other illnesses concerning lack of nutrition?

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By *udekeithMan
3 days ago

Loughborough

I eat seasonal and local fruit and veg, sometimes from the market and sometimes from a local farm. Meat comes from a good local butcher. Can’t get much fresher or more healthy than buying direct and generally it’s no more expensive than from a supermarket when you take into account the minimal wastage by buying just what is needed rather than, for example, 2.5kg potatoes when only 1.5kg is needed. Avoid processed and packaged foods, eat seasonally and it’s healthy.

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By *non-ita OP   Man
3 days ago

Bristol


"I eat seasonal and local fruit and veg, sometimes from the market and sometimes from a local farm. Meat comes from a good local butcher. Can’t get much fresher or more healthy than buying direct and generally it’s no more expensive than from a supermarket when you take into account the minimal wastage by buying just what is needed rather than, for example, 2.5kg potatoes when only 1.5kg is needed. Avoid processed and packaged foods, eat seasonally and it’s healthy."

Yes, I agree with that. But not everybody can not afford to eat that way. It's more expensive to buy in a butcher or local food shop than in the supermarket. You can blame the government for this.

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By *tar33Man
3 days ago

North London (outer)


"I eat seasonal and local fruit and veg, sometimes from the market and sometimes from a local farm. Meat comes from a good local butcher. Can’t get much fresher or more healthy than buying direct and generally it’s no more expensive than from a supermarket when you take into account the minimal wastage by buying just what is needed rather than, for example, 2.5kg potatoes when only 1.5kg is needed. Avoid processed and packaged foods, eat seasonally and it’s healthy.

Yes, I agree with that. But not everybody can not afford to eat that way. It's more expensive to buy in a butcher or local food shop than in the supermarket. You can blame the government for this. "

If true, why is it the government's fault that a butcher or local shop is more expensive than a supermarket? Also, I'm not convinced that such food is any better, it's more down to perception.

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By *owzerMan
3 days ago

Chester.....

If obese people just ate less, they would be thinner and it would be cheaper for them too.

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By *angtMan
3 days ago

Wednesfield /Wolverhampton

Fat people do buy local. The local Greggs, the local Maccies, the local chippie.

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By *non-ita OP   Man
3 days ago

Bristol


"If obese people just ate less, they would be thinner and it would be cheaper for them too."

It doesn't matter the amount of food you eat. It's the ingredients such as sugar, oils And preservatives that make you put on weight. A lot of food nowadays has oils that the body cannot break down very well, so it is stored as fat. food today is mainly sugar the body stores sugar as energy, which is fat. So it's not the amount of food you eat, it's the ingredients. Look at all the pictures back in the 70s. Everyone was thin because they ate healthily. There were hardly any sugars and oils in the foods unlike there is today. Do your research. All the calories we consume today are sugar, oils and preservatives, which are hard for the body to break down That's why there is a higher percentage of obese people and unhealthy people.

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By *uck73Man
3 days ago

Amsterdam,Netherlands

Grow your own

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By *non-ita OP   Man
3 days ago

Bristol


"Grow your own"
Love the sound of that

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By *orcester GuyMan
3 days ago

Worcestershire North

Food is expensive

But if people cooked more themselves they could eat healthier

A slow cooker is fantastic much better than an air fryer

You can cook meals to last for days

Not saying don’t have a take away

But for some you could give away veg & still wouldn’t eat it

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By *airFetishMan
3 days ago

Maldon


"They want you to eat healthy but make all the unhealthy food really cheap and the healthy food really expensive.

I want his fruit and veg. It's not exactly fresh. It's normally stored in the gas which keeps it looking ripe For months. So an apple you're eating could be anything up to ten months+ old but still looks fresh and healthy. And if you drink fruit juices it's not fresh and healthy, even though it's fruit the added Sugar keeps it preserved longer And adds more flavour because the fruit lost its nutrition.

What are your thoughts on this? Should we Be complaining or just live the life of poor nutrition and an unhealthy lifestyle Obesity and other illnesses concerning lack of nutrition?"

What you say may well be true for a lot of fruit and veg, but that’s what happens when we expect “permanent global summertime” so that we can buy strawberries in December and asparagus in August. Also, the manufacturers will be using the same food so …

Eat fresh veg cooked yourself, go vegetarian (or at least cut down on meat and fish) and your food bills will come down and you will eat better.

The difference between the 70s and a few decades later is we didn’t have microwave ready meals, and the few pre-prepared things as a main course were few and far between. People cooked, not just reheated and mixed packet stuff.

Also, look at all the kebab shops, pizza places, burger places, instant food delivery of those items and compare it to the 70s when they were almost non-existent. People have not changed since then but the take-away shops and ultra-processed food availability definitely has mushroomed since then.

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By *non-ita OP   Man
3 days ago

Bristol


"Food is expensive

But if people cooked more themselves they could eat healthier

A slow cooker is fantastic much better than an air fryer

You can cook meals to last for days

Not saying don’t have a take away

But for some you could give away veg & still wouldn’t eat it "

I agree. But like you said, food is expensive and cannot afford to buy healthy food. It's always processed. high in sugar, high in oils and high in preservatives.

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By *arlojoeMan
3 days ago

darlington

It's fairly,straightforward. Try to avoid processed food and excess sugar. Prepare and cook at home, no takeaways. Eat fruit and veg inseason, not that's covered more airmiles than Starmer to get here. Where possible try to grow your own food. I have an allotment that keeps my family in basic veg for most of the year. Oh and the shed is a handy and secluded spot, for!!

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By *rdinaryman99Man
3 days ago

Peterborough


"If obese people just ate less, they would be thinner and it would be cheaper for them too."

Alright Katie hopkins

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By *oodledoMan
3 days ago

Greenwich

I disagree with the OP. You can still eat healthily without breaking the bank. The problem is that only a few are prepared to have a basic but healthy diet. Majority "complain" they cannot afford the healthy foods and yet buy some more expensive junk foods because they are hostages of their taste buds. If you are really committed to eating healthily you can do it, and will be even cheaper - you just have to make the correct informed decisions. And don't be lazy to cook all your meals from scratch.

I pretty much eat the same things over and over again - i steam broccoli, carrots, swedes, have lettuce, tomatoes, cucumber, with chicken or fish that I grill myself- are you saying this is an expensive way to eat - do not think so.

If you are going for sweets, ready meals, convenience food, of course it will be unhealthy, but don't complain you cannot afford better options because you can - probably you are too lazy to prep the your own food, or you are not well I formed about nutrition.

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By *lasgow verse 60s guyMan
3 days ago

Glasgow

I use lots of frozen veg in my cooking. Buying smaller quantities of good quality meats and bulking it up with veg from the freezer. Not always the government's fault if farm prices are high, government can't control the weather

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By *oodledoMan
3 days ago

Greenwich


"If obese people just ate less, they would be thinner and it would be cheaper for them too.

It doesn't matter the amount of food you eat. It's the ingredients such as sugar, oils And preservatives that make you put on weight. A lot of food nowadays has oils that the body cannot break down very well, so it is stored as fat. food today is mainly sugar the body stores sugar as energy, which is fat. So it's not the amount of food you eat, it's the ingredients. Look at all the pictures back in the 70s. Everyone was thin because they ate healthily. There were hardly any sugars and oils in the foods unlike there is today. Do your research. All the calories we consume today are sugar, oils and preservatives, which are hard for the body to break down That's why there is a higher percentage of obese people and unhealthy people."

Hahahah, let me guess what foods you are shopping in the supermarket. Instead of complaining about all the sugar and oils (yes, your statement is true), try buying raw whole foods instead, and cook them yourself- simple.

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By *hiteroseMan
3 days ago

Neverwhere

The main problem with our diets today is what some nutritionists describe as 'ultra processed' food.

These can loosely be defined as products where the ingredients would not normally be found in the kitchen store cupboard. Things like modified starches, emulsifiers, diglycerides of fatty acids etc.

These products are often designed to be calorie dense, but easy to chew and swallow. Consequently we consume more calories than we require, and too quickly ... think Homer Simpson and doughnuts!

Take a look around the supermarket shelves and you will soon realise that this is what the manufacturers and supermarkets want to sell us. That's where the profit is. And that's why those foods are designed to be addictive.

But, once that has become your normal diet it is very difficult to break free from it. It not only requires a lot of effort, thought and will power, but also a basic level of culinary skill. I learnt those skills from my mother, but how many modern parents either possess those skills or are passing them on?

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By *ublinBottomGuyMan
3 days ago

London

It's not expensive to eat healthy, people just want the convenience that more processed food offers.

"They" are a handy scapegoat for people who can't be bothered to put in a bit of effort to eat more healthy balanced meals.

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By *tr8m8bfastMan
3 days ago

belfast


"If obese people just ate less, they would be thinner and it would be cheaper for them too."

How very dare you

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By *tr8m8bfastMan
3 days ago

belfast


"If obese people just ate less, they would be thinner and it would be cheaper for them too.

Alright Katie hopkins"

He's correct though.

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By *edwhiteandblue3Man
3 days ago

Hemel Hempstead


"The main problem with our diets today is what some nutritionists describe as 'ultra processed' food.

These can loosely be defined as products where the ingredients would not normally be found in the kitchen store cupboard. Things like modified starches, emulsifiers, diglycerides of fatty acids etc.

These products are often designed to be calorie dense, but easy to chew and swallow. Consequently we consume more calories than we require, and too quickly ... think Homer Simpson and doughnuts!

Take a look around the supermarket shelves and you will soon realise that this is what the manufacturers and supermarkets want to sell us. That's where the profit is. And that's why those foods are designed to be addictive.

But, once that has become your normal diet it is very difficult to break free from it. It not only requires a lot of effort, thought and will power, but also a basic level of culinary skill. I learnt those skills from my mother, but how many modern parents either possess those skills or are passing them on?"

This. In spades.

You've only to look at a simple food like bread. Bread should be just flour, water and yeast, right? And maybe some salt. But no, the big bread producers have put all sorts of other crap in it, preservatives, emulsifiers, god knows what else. Oh, and sugar! When did we start needing sugar in ordinary bread?

Consequently I no longer buy bread at all. My mother bakes her own and I eat that when I visit but otherwise they can keep it and all the crap they put in it.

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By *ompeytopMan
3 days ago

Chichester

Snacking is one of the biggest problems, years ago people didn't snack. You never saw people eating or drinking whilst on the move.

Fresh fruit and veg is much better for you but people like the convenience of prepared foods.

Eat less, move more. It's not difficult

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By *eepeter4Man
3 days ago

Bournemouth


"Snacking is one of the biggest problems, years ago people didn't snack. You never saw people eating or drinking whilst on the move.

Fresh fruit and veg is much better for you but people like the convenience of prepared foods.

Eat less, move more. It's not difficult

"

I am sure one Asian country bans people while walking on the pavement

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By *ornyfeckerMan
3 days ago

Dundee

I can assure that I have never seen a Government employee forcing cheap processed food down my throat etc. You make it all sound so simple . However, with such low benefits, people are forced down particular paths. I would just love to see the diet that can be afforded on benefits. More so if you have additional needs. I am not talking about a couple of weeks, see how the stress of years with real medical issues. No popping down the local farm shop for good food, it is an online delivery. But carry on looking at the world through your tinted specs rather than those at the sharp end.

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By *non-ita OP   Man
3 days ago

Bristol


"I eat seasonal and local fruit and veg, sometimes from the market and sometimes from a local farm. Meat comes from a good local butcher. Can’t get much fresher or more healthy than buying direct and generally it’s no more expensive than from a supermarket when you take into account the minimal wastage by buying just what is needed rather than, for example, 2.5kg potatoes when only 1.5kg is needed. Avoid processed and packaged foods, eat seasonally and it’s healthy.

Yes, I agree with that. But not everybody can not afford to eat that way. It's more expensive to buy in a butcher or local food shop than in the supermarket. You can blame the government for this.

If true, why is it the government's fault that a butcher or local shop is more expensive than a supermarket? Also, I'm not convinced that such food is any better, it's more down to perception."

Decent, healthy food is more expensive because the farmers and producers have to comply with strict rules to meet government rules. All these rules are very expensive, and farmers can't afford to live when they're following the government's rules.

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By *andomguy321Man
3 days ago

reading

If your'e fat and want to be in shape - Cut out snacking between meals and reduce portion sizes of meals

Move about more

Cut out alcohol

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By *0yguyMan
3 days ago

Cumberland

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By *non-ita OP   Man
3 days ago

Bristol

And since I started eating healthy food, non-processed food I've lost 4 stone. I am now 17 stone. I can afford it now I have a bit more money coming in. Sadly, a high percentage of people in the UK. Don't have a good income, so they have to eat processed and s*i* food.

Just blame the government for making healthy food really expensive and processed food really cheap.

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By *astguy7Man
3 days ago

Ross

Partly what you learn growing up. I've just made a very healthy tasty chicken soup, left over chicken from a roast meal. Added carrot, leeks, swede, parsnip, red pepper some red lentils. Will be enough for 2 or 3 meals, really cheap, low fat and packed with tasty vegetables. Much less expensive than a ready meal or pasties etc.

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By *non-ita OP   Man
3 days ago

Bristol


"Partly what you learn growing up. I've just made a very healthy tasty chicken soup, left over chicken from a roast meal. Added carrot, leeks, swede, parsnip, red pepper some red lentils. Will be enough for 2 or 3 meals, really cheap, low fat and packed with tasty vegetables. Much less expensive than a ready meal or pasties etc."

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By *otterthanthesunMan
3 days ago

London

It all has to do with having a bit of education around healthy eating, a bit of common sense, meal planning and not being lazy.

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By *terag5581Man
3 days ago

stirling


"Grow your own"

Got allotment

Grow absolutely grow loads of stuff

Admittedly quieter just now as winter season , but springs coming

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By *dambi00Man
17 hours ago

Leicester

It’s a little bit more expensive but not that much, I just think people are becoming more and more lazy.

People rather have food from the oven, ready meals, etc. instead of cooking their own meals with whole foods and fresh ingredients

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By *enjamin2018Man
17 hours ago

Halstead

I think buying fresh ingredients and cooking it at home can be cheaper and healthier,and shopping in Lidl or Aldi helps .

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By *dambi00Man
17 hours ago

Leicester


"If obese people just ate less, they would be thinner and it would be cheaper for them too.

It doesn't matter the amount of food you eat. It's the ingredients such as sugar, oils And preservatives that make you put on weight. A lot of food nowadays has oils that the body cannot break down very well, so it is stored as fat. food today is mainly sugar the body stores sugar as energy, which is fat. So it's not the amount of food you eat, it's the ingredients. Look at all the pictures back in the 70s. Everyone was thin because they ate healthily. There were hardly any sugars and oils in the foods unlike there is today. Do your research. All the calories we consume today are sugar, oils and preservatives, which are hard for the body to break down That's why there is a higher percentage of obese people and unhealthy people."

This actually isn’t true, losing weight is as simple as eating less calories than what your maintenance is.

For example, at my current weight and height, if I eat 2000 calories everyday then I’ll stay the same wait

If I eat 1800 everyday then I’ll lose 0.5lbs per week

If I eat 2200 everyday then I’ll put on 0.5lbs per week (paired with going to the gym then this will build into muscle rather than fat)

If I wanted to lose weight, it doesn’t necessarily matter what I eat, as long as I eat below my maintenance calories.

Mark Haub did a study on it, for 10 weeks his diet consisted of mainly twinkies and Doritos, and in those 10 weeks he lost 27lbs, because he was in a calorie deficit.

Of course if you eat a lot of high calorie foods such as chocolates, sweets, crisps, then you’ll just always be hungry, and naturally eat more calories then.

Whereas, if you want to eat lower calorie foods but still be satiated and full, that’s when you need to pay attention to the macronutrients. Eating low calorie but high fibre and protein meals will make you feel a lot more full.

A chicken salad and a bag of Doritos can have roughly the same calories, but you’ll feel a lot more full with the salad.

All in all, if your goal is to simply lose weight, then you need to be in a calorie deficit

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By *etterbiggerMan
17 hours ago

Scunthorpe


"And since I started eating healthy food, non-processed food I've lost 4 stone. I am now 17 stone. I can afford it now I have a bit more money coming in. Sadly, a high percentage of people in the UK. Don't have a good income, so they have to eat processed and s*i* food.

Just blame the government for making healthy food really expensive and processed food really cheap."

It's not the government it's the supermarkets and food manufacturers. Everything you buy in a supermarket has gone through a factory. Having worked in the food industry for years I know a lot of the wrinkles. Chicken is a healthy low fat meat right? Wrong when it's a supermarket processed sliced packet of sandwich meat. 23% fat in the cheapest form. It's made up of chicken skin imported from Brazil. Cheap and easy to process. Mix it with chicken muscle add various carcinogenic salts. Nitrates, polyphosphates which when water is added and the whole lot is macerated together forms a slurry. The salts helps keep the water in the emulsion. Put it into plastic skins and steam it. Once cooked and sliced it resembles meat. It cheap because you are buying fat, water and salt with I little added chicken. Delicious

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By *loryhole SuckMan
17 hours ago

Barrow-in-Furness


"If obese people just ate less, they would be thinner and it would be cheaper for them too."

A fat guy is well fed = successful and secure

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By *tar33Man
17 hours ago

North London (outer)


"Grow your own

Got allotment

Grow absolutely grow loads of stuff

Admittedly quieter just now as winter season , but springs coming"

I grow a few things in my garden, but an allotment is neither cost or time effective for the majority of people.

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By *edwhiteandblue3Man
17 hours ago

Hemel Hempstead


"And since I started eating healthy food, non-processed food I've lost 4 stone. I am now 17 stone. I can afford it now I have a bit more money coming in. Sadly, a high percentage of people in the UK. Don't have a good income, so they have to eat processed and s*i* food.

Just blame the government for making healthy food really expensive and processed food really cheap.

It's not the government it's the supermarkets and food manufacturers. Everything you buy in a supermarket has gone through a factory. Having worked in the food industry for years I know a lot of the wrinkles. Chicken is a healthy low fat meat right? Wrong when it's a supermarket processed sliced packet of sandwich meat. 23% fat in the cheapest form. It's made up of chicken skin imported from Brazil. Cheap and easy to process. Mix it with chicken muscle add various carcinogenic salts. Nitrates, polyphosphates which when water is added and the whole lot is macerated together forms a slurry. The salts helps keep the water in the emulsion. Put it into plastic skins and steam it. Once cooked and sliced it resembles meat. It cheap because you are buying fat, water and salt with I little added chicken. Delicious "

Interesting insight into the utter shit they sell us.

Even fresh meat is injected so full of water you can't fry it properly. Why are they allowed to do this?

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By *ildwestheroMan
17 hours ago

Llandrindod Wells


"Fat people do buy local. The local Greggs, the local Maccies, the local chippie."

Oh no we don't. I try to buy locally. I eat a lot of fruit and veg plus avoid a lot of 'fast food', pre-prepared food, sweets, biscuits, cakes etc. Don't avoid them altogether as that is almost impossible. I try to eat healthily but have had a weight problem all my life. Admittedly I am less mobile these days and don't get enough exercise, but even when I was fit e.g. working long hours, playing rugby, working out at the gym, going for long walks etc. I still constantly 'battled the bulge'

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By *hiteroseMan
17 hours ago

Neverwhere


"It's not the government it's the supermarkets and food manufacturers. Everything you buy in a supermarket has gone through a factory. Having worked in the food industry for years I know a lot of the wrinkles. Chicken is a healthy low fat meat right? Wrong when it's a supermarket processed sliced packet of sandwich meat. 23% fat in the cheapest form. It's made up of chicken skin imported from Brazil. Cheap and easy to process. Mix it with chicken muscle add various carcinogenic salts. Nitrates, polyphosphates which when water is added and the whole lot is macerated together forms a slurry. The salts helps keep the water in the emulsion. Put it into plastic skins and steam it. Once cooked and sliced it resembles meat. It cheap because you are buying fat, water and salt with I little added chicken. Delicious "

Excellent insight

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By *tainesMan
16 hours ago

_taines


"It's not the government it's the supermarkets and food manufacturers. Everything you buy in a supermarket has gone through a factory. Having worked in the food industry for years I know a lot of the wrinkles. Chicken is a healthy low fat meat right? Wrong when it's a supermarket processed sliced packet of sandwich meat. 23% fat in the cheapest form. It's made up of chicken skin imported from Brazil. Cheap and easy to process. Mix it with chicken muscle add various carcinogenic salts. Nitrates, polyphosphates which when water is added and the whole lot is macerated together forms a slurry. The salts helps keep the water in the emulsion. Put it into plastic skins and steam it. Once cooked and sliced it resembles meat. It cheap because you are buying fat, water and salt with I little added chicken. Delicious

Excellent insight "

Knowledgeable and sexy as ….. WOW

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By *nthebuffMan
16 hours ago

Liskeard

I make most meals from scratch and buy most produce from the local greengrocer and milk from the farm. I will on occasion buy a bag of mixed frozen supermarket veg but that's about it.

The milk is marginally more expensive but the fruit & veg comparable or cheaper than the supermarket.

The microwave meals and many of the ready made foods have added fats and sugars often hidden away (although listed in the ingredients).

Eating seasonal fruit & veg helps keep the diet varied.

I think when I grew up, the only takeaway in the village was the fish & chip shop and no burger or other restaurants nearby. Certainly no delivery. The food at home was good homemade food, made from scratch, which is probably why I cook from scratch now.

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By (user no longer on site)
16 hours ago


"They want you to eat healthy but make all the unhealthy food really cheap and the healthy food really expensive.

I want his fruit and veg. It's not exactly fresh. It's normally stored in the gas which keeps it looking ripe For months. So an apple you're eating could be anything up to ten months+ old but still looks fresh and healthy. And if you drink fruit juices it's not fresh and healthy, even though it's fruit the added Sugar keeps it preserved longer And adds more flavour because the fruit lost its nutrition.

What are your thoughts on this? Should we Be complaining or just live the life of poor nutrition and an unhealthy lifestyle Obesity and other illnesses concerning lack of nutrition?"

. If you can't afford to buy fresh local produce, tinned food is full of nutrients. That's the advantage of tinned food. It's sealed and retains all it's goodness

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By *rTongueTasticMan
16 hours ago

Close_To_Chichester

Like others have mentioned, I use my trusted slow cooker that my parents gave me in 1990.. ..

My local ( walking distance) farmshop is where I mostly get my food from & they aim to source within 20 miles. There service is excellent & when I factor in the 10 mile return to my local supermarket, on a par, price wise...

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By *odameMan
15 hours ago

Torremolinos, Spain NOT


"Just blame the government for making healthy food really expensive and processed food really cheap."

Zero to do with government, the UK is a free market economy.

The reason processed foods are cheaper is because manufacturers buy in bulk and mass produce using lower quality ingredients and cheap fillers to bulk them up, resulting in a poorer quality and less nutritious meal.

You can create exactly the same product using just the necessary ingredients, it will be tastier and healthier without preservatives and additives.

Loads of resources online for recipes to make good and low budget meals.

Cook in larger quantities and freeze.

Stick to seasonal products as that is when they are at their cheapest and better for your immune system because they are fresher, more nutritious, and contain higher levels of vitamins and minerals.

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By *enjamin2018Man
15 hours ago

Halstead

I bought 5 large jacket potatoes at the market for £3, they're very versatile and even when you factor in the topping it's still a cheap meal.

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By *eepeter4Man
15 hours ago

Bournemouth


"They want you to eat healthy but make all the unhealthy food really cheap and the healthy food really expensive.

I want his fruit and veg. It's not exactly fresh. It's normally stored in the gas which keeps it looking ripe For months. So an apple you're eating could be anything up to ten months+ old but still looks fresh and healthy. And if you drink fruit juices it's not fresh and healthy, even though it's fruit the added Sugar keeps it preserved longer And adds more flavour because the fruit lost its nutrition.

What are your thoughts on this? Should we Be complaining or just live the life of poor nutrition and an unhealthy lifestyle Obesity and other illnesses concerning lack of nutrition?. If you can't afford to buy fresh local produce, tinned food is full of nutrients. That's the advantage of tinned food. It's sealed and retains all it's goodness"

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By *airFetishMan
15 hours ago

Maldon

As another poster mentioned about bread - make it yourself.

I mix flour, salt, yeast and water in a bowl then cover & put it in the cupboard. Take it out, fold it four times and back in the cupboard- do that twice. Take out, roll into a ball and put in a basket in the cupboard. Later pop in the oven for 45 minutes. Remove, cool and enjoy.

The result is natural, real, tasty proper bread. So simple, and your time involvement is about 20 minutes total I’d reckon. I can’t believe that the majority of people eat the expensive plastic-wrapped pappy crap from supermarkets.

Try it and you’ll wonder why you don’t do it years ago.

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By *airFetishMan
15 hours ago

Maldon


"And since I started eating healthy food, non-processed food I've lost 4 stone. I am now 17 stone. I can afford it now I have a bit more money coming in. Sadly, a high percentage of people in the UK. Don't have a good income, so they have to eat processed and s*i* food.

Just blame the government for making healthy food really expensive and processed food really cheap.

It's not the government it's the supermarkets and food manufacturers. Everything you buy in a supermarket has gone through a factory. Having worked in the food industry for years I know a lot of the wrinkles. Chicken is a healthy low fat meat right? Wrong when it's a supermarket processed sliced packet of sandwich meat. 23% fat in the cheapest form. It's made up of chicken skin imported from Brazil. Cheap and easy to process. Mix it with chicken muscle add various carcinogenic salts. Nitrates, polyphosphates which when water is added and the whole lot is macerated together forms a slurry. The salts helps keep the water in the emulsion. Put it into plastic skins and steam it. Once cooked and sliced it resembles meat. It cheap because you are buying fat, water and salt with I little added chicken. Delicious "

THIS!

Most people don’t have a clue about the grim stuff that the food industry does and the power of the supermarkets to shape the country’s eating habits, farming, the livelihoods of farmers, local built environment and the availability of shopping alternatives.

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By *otmouth50Man
15 hours ago

Leek

There are millions of people to feed. We also eat in winter. Out of the growing season I am happy to eat vegetables and fruit in December. Thank you to science for helping us keep food preserved. Go to Aldi. Cabbage. Carrots. Taters. Leeks. Aubergines. Bananas..Oranges...FFS there's every veg and fruit under the sun. You can eat very healthy if you want toI. f you're a fatty there's only one person to blame....and it aint the PM. Stay away from the processed shit.

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By *ornyfeckerMan
14 hours ago

Dundee


"As another poster mentioned about bread - make it yourself.

I mix flour, salt, yeast and water in a bowl then cover & put it in the cupboard. Take it out, fold it four times and back in the cupboard- do that twice. Take out, roll into a ball and put in a basket in the cupboard. Later pop in the oven for 45 minutes. Remove, cool and enjoy.

The result is natural, real, tasty proper bread. So simple, and your time involvement is about 20 minutes total I’d reckon. I can’t believe that the majority of people eat the expensive plastic-wrapped pappy crap from supermarkets.

Try it and you’ll wonder why you don’t do it years ago. "

Once you taste real bread, there is no going bread. Look at the ingredients on a bought loaf, about 13. On a home made load, 5 or 6 natural ingredients.

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By *arlojoeMan
13 hours ago

darlington


"Grow your own

Got allotment

Grow absolutely grow loads of stuff

Admittedly quieter just now as winter season , but springs coming

I grow a few things in my garden, but an allotment is neither cost or time effective for the majority of people."

Yes if you cost what I grow against a supermarket,then its probably not cost effective.But I only grow veg that are expensive in the shops, no cabbages,lots of beans etc. I know how my veg was grown naturally ,without chemicals and without food miles.Having been to mine today and spent a morning digging,its also good exercise,which in turn aids health and well being.

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By *terag5581Man
12 hours ago

stirling


"Grow your own

Got allotment

Grow absolutely grow loads of stuff

Admittedly quieter just now as winter season , but springs coming

I grow a few things in my garden, but an allotment is neither cost or time effective for the majority of people. Yes if you cost what I grow against a supermarket,then its probably not cost effective.But I only grow veg that are expensive in the shops, no cabbages,lots of beans etc. I know how my veg was grown naturally ,without chemicals and without food miles.Having been to mine today and spent a morning digging,its also good exercise,which in turn aids health and well being."

Of course it's cost effective

The added bonus natural stuff that tastes like food!

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By *tr8m8bfastMan
12 hours ago

belfast


"There are millions of people to feed. We also eat in winter. Out of the growing season I am happy to eat vegetables and fruit in December. Thank you to science for helping us keep food preserved. Go to Aldi. Cabbage. Carrots. Taters. Leeks. Aubergines. Bananas..Oranges...FFS there's every veg and fruit under the sun. You can eat very healthy if you want toI. f you're a fatty there's only one person to blame....and it aint the PM. Stay away from the processed shit."

It's always someone else's fault.

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By *tar33Man
11 hours ago

North London (outer)


"Grow your own

Got allotment

Grow absolutely grow loads of stuff

Admittedly quieter just now as winter season , but springs coming

I grow a few things in my garden, but an allotment is neither cost or time effective for the majority of people. Yes if you cost what I grow against a supermarket,then its probably not cost effective.But I only grow veg that are expensive in the shops, no cabbages,lots of beans etc. I know how my veg was grown naturally ,without chemicals and without food miles.Having been to mine today and spent a morning digging,its also good exercise,which in turn aids health and well being.

Of course it's cost effective

"

Taking into account the low cost of fruit and veg, glut crops that don't keep, and the actual time it takes to plant, grow, water and tend to an allotment, how can it possibly be cost-effective?

People need to work for a living and also have family duties and chores to attend to. It seems as if no value is being given to people's time, I could earn at least 10 times the amount of money I could possibly save by growing my own.

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By *terag5581Man
11 hours ago

stirling


"Grow your own

Got allotment

Grow absolutely grow loads of stuff

Admittedly quieter just now as winter season , but springs coming

I grow a few things in my garden, but an allotment is neither cost or time effective for the majority of people. Yes if you cost what I grow against a supermarket,then its probably not cost effective.But I only grow veg that are expensive in the shops, no cabbages,lots of beans etc. I know how my veg was grown naturally ,without chemicals and without food miles.Having been to mine today and spent a morning digging,its also good exercise,which in turn aids health and well being.

Of course it's cost effective

Taking into account the low cost of fruit and veg, glut crops that don't keep, and the actual time it takes to plant, grow, water and tend to an allotment, how can it possibly be cost-effective?

People need to work for a living and also have family duties and chores to attend to. It seems as if no value is being given to people's time, I could earn at least 10 times the amount of money I could possibly save by growing my own."

You're hardly sitting on a seat 24/7 waiting for your plants to grow ffs

You ain't at allotment for hours

Better than sitting on your fat ass doing sweet fuck all

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By *tar33Man
9 hours ago

North London (outer)


"Grow your own

Got allotment

Grow absolutely grow loads of stuff

Admittedly quieter just now as winter season , but springs coming

I grow a few things in my garden, but an allotment is neither cost or time effective for the majority of people. Yes if you cost what I grow against a supermarket,then its probably not cost effective.But I only grow veg that are expensive in the shops, no cabbages,lots of beans etc. I know how my veg was grown naturally ,without chemicals and without food miles.Having been to mine today and spent a morning digging,its also good exercise,which in turn aids health and well being.

Of course it's cost effective

Taking into account the low cost of fruit and veg, glut crops that don't keep, and the actual time it takes to plant, grow, water and tend to an allotment, how can it possibly be cost-effective?

People need to work for a living and also have family duties and chores to attend to. It seems as if no value is being given to people's time, I could earn at least 10 times the amount of money I could possibly save by growing my own.

You're hardly sitting on a seat 24/7 waiting for your plants to grow ffs

You ain't at allotment for hours

Better than sitting on your fat ass doing sweet fuck all"

The previous poster said he was there all morning, and in the summer you sometimes have to visit twice a day.

Having a job where you earn far more than you could save by growing your own is far from 'sitting on your fat ass doing sweet fuck all'. Maybe that's just something you're not capable of achieving or understanding

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By *terag5581Man
7 hours ago

stirling


"Grow your own

Got allotment

Grow absolutely grow loads of stuff

Admittedly quieter just now as winter season , but springs coming

I grow a few things in my garden, but an allotment is neither cost or time effective for the majority of people. Yes if you cost what I grow against a supermarket,then its probably not cost effective.But I only grow veg that are expensive in the shops, no cabbages,lots of beans etc. I know how my veg was grown naturally ,without chemicals and without food miles.Having been to mine today and spent a morning digging,its also good exercise,which in turn aids health and well being.

Of course it's cost effective

Taking into account the low cost of fruit and veg, glut crops that don't keep, and the actual time it takes to plant, grow, water and tend to an allotment, how can it possibly be cost-effective?

People need to work for a living and also have family duties and chores to attend to. It seems as if no value is being given to people's time, I could earn at least 10 times the amount of money I could possibly save by growing my own.

You're hardly sitting on a seat 24/7 waiting for your plants to grow ffs

You ain't at allotment for hours

Better than sitting on your fat ass doing sweet fuck all

The previous poster said he was there all morning, and in the summer you sometimes have to visit twice a day.

Having a job where you earn far more than you could save by growing your own is far from 'sitting on your fat ass doing sweet fuck all'. Maybe that's just something you're not capable of achieving or understanding "

And as we know on here you're always right!

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By *angtMan
7 hours ago

Wednesfield /Wolverhampton

It’s ok saying grow your own or get an allotment, but not everyone is able to do that either through time, work or family constraints. It’s such a simplistic and unthinking answer it almost verges on being patronising.

Also people have much wider palates than just potatoes and beans these days. I mean can you grow avocados on your allotment? Bananas? How about water chestnuts or rice?

Anyhow, the problem is not that people can’t get hold of fresh food, more that they don’t know how to make a decent meal from basic ingredients.

Cooking or ‘home technology’ has all but disappeared from the school curriculum, and has been replaced with such useful stuff as PHSE or the like. That’s where the problem lies, not the availability of ingredients.

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By *omyorksMan
7 hours ago

Malton

Years ago there were sweet shops, now the chilled aisles of supermarkets have shelves full of sweetened yoghurts. 17g (more than three spoons) of sugar in a micro pot made for children!

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By *oosterladMan
6 hours ago

ipswich

My take regarding allotments in the forties it was dig baby dig. My grandfather got an allotment and it was a necessary lifestyle no other choice. Imports restricted by sea and rationing. He kept the family fed with fruit n veg and was doing it till aged over 90. In early years He went to the allotment at 6am to sort things then off on the train to work

at the London Bridge docks. When he came home he was a fire warden in the evenings. So we are spoilt today. The community spirit was good on the allotment the old boys taught him and later he taught the younger guys what to do. They shared produce and dug the other guys plot when they were unable to do so.

Moving on in the seventies when I was at school I got into the home economics class with one other lad the rest were girls we were lucky to do it. They taught us all the skills and cooking techniques and nutritional knowledge for cookery a really useful thing still to this day.

We should be teaching young people the same skills. If we dont they'll be dependent on pre packed stuff. I see it everyday in my supermarket.

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By *ldmanMan
6 hours ago

Howden


"My take regarding allotments in the forties it was dig baby dig. My grandfather got an allotment and it was a necessary lifestyle no other choice. Imports restricted by sea and rationing. He kept the family fed with fruit n veg and was doing it till aged over 90. In early years He went to the allotment at 6am to sort things then off on the train to work

at the London Bridge docks. When he came home he was a fire warden in the evenings. So we are spoilt today. The community spirit was good on the allotment the old boys taught him and later he taught the younger guys what to do. They shared produce and dug the other guys plot when they were unable to do so.

Moving on in the seventies when I was at school I got into the home economics class with one other lad the rest were girls we were lucky to do it. They taught us all the skills and cooking techniques and nutritional knowledge for cookery a really useful thing still to this day.

We should be teaching young people the same skills. If we dont they'll be dependent on pre packed stuff. I see it everyday in my supermarket.

"

Yes I got into allotment at a young age, and the old guys taught me how to dig, sow etc, and what to plant at what time of year.

All the allotments along the old railway line, 100s of them, are now gone.

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By *hymanabcMan
5 hours ago

blackburn

I know it’s been said on this thread but cook your own food. Control sugar, fats and quantities of the ingredients yourself. And cook smartly and batch cook a little more to reduce the cost. I’ve just fed 7 plus enough left for tomorrow meal for one for around £9 to £10 for the lot. Healthy meal, everyone happy with what they ate

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By *oosterladMan
5 hours ago

ipswich


"I know it’s been said on this thread but cook your own food. Control sugar, fats and quantities of the ingredients yourself. And cook smartly and batch cook a little more to reduce the cost. I’ve just fed 7 plus enough left for tomorrow meal for one for around £9 to £10 for the lot. Healthy meal, everyone happy with what they ate "

Yep just add a bit of pastry work and a bit of protein to your produce and you have all the pies tarts puddings pastries stewed fruit compote whatever all easy to do.

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By *oosterladMan
5 hours ago

ipswich

You cant beat a goot tart.

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By *hymanabcMan
5 hours ago

blackburn


"You cant beat a goot tart."

Who doesn’t

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