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"I've just been told that anybody now going to the Greenhouse Darlaston will need a membership. You will need to provide either a driving licence or a passport. To provide photo identification. They will keep on record your date of birth and driving licence number or passport number. Please let me know how you feel about this. This identification membership will be needed for both entry and hotel room." For what reason? | |||
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" For what reason?" Their website says: Following a review of our premises license, you will now need ID to attend The Greenhouse Darlaston, whether it’s your first time or you’ve been coming 30 years, we will provide you with a membership card with your membership number on. Your details will NOT be shared with any third parties at any point. This will ensure a safe environment for all. _____________________ 1st line implies forced on them. I'd still like to know by whom and why it was felt necessary. | |||
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"Most Saunas operate a Membership Scheme as they operate as Members Clubs - they are just abiding by the Licencing Regs ….which is quite refreshing. where’s the problem ? I don’t see why OP needs to know our views - nosy parker ! " I don't need to know your views on anything. Your levels of ignorance are not in doubt. It's nothing to do with licensing regs. The other greenhouse saunas aren't mentioning a membership scheme. | |||
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" For what reason? Their website says: Following a review of our premises license, you will now need ID to attend The Greenhouse Darlaston, whether it’s your first time or you’ve been coming 30 years, we will provide you with a membership card with your membership number on. Your details will NOT be shared with any third parties at any point. This will ensure a safe environment for all. _____________________ 1st line implies forced on them. I'd still like to know by whom and why it was felt necessary. " I've had lots of people contacting me saying they're not going there any more. It's all a bit concerning. | |||
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" For what reason? Their website says: Following a review of our premises license, you will now need ID to attend The Greenhouse Darlaston, whether it’s your first time or you’ve been coming 30 years, we will provide you with a membership card with your membership number on. Your details will NOT be shared with any third parties at any point. This will ensure a safe environment for all. _____________________ 1st line implies forced on them. I'd still like to know by whom and why it was felt necessary. I've had lots of people contacting me saying they're not going there any more. It's all a bit concerning. " It's definitely going to affect the numbers going. Part of the experience is the anonymity and escapism. | |||
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" For what reason? Their website says: Following a review of our premises license, you will now need ID to attend The Greenhouse Darlaston, whether it’s your first time or you’ve been coming 30 years, we will provide you with a membership card with your membership number on. Your details will NOT be shared with any third parties at any point. This will ensure a safe environment for all. _____________________ 1st line implies forced on them. I'd still like to know by whom and why it was felt necessary. I've had lots of people contacting me saying they're not going there any more. It's all a bit concerning. " You can understand this. Anonymity is important to many visiting these establishments. Because it's a secret life for them. Many aren't open about their 'hobby' and many are married/straight acting. I bet for Shedazzle on Fridays the number of guys visiting will drop. Especially those who are in relationships. Less fun less numbers attending, surely. Maybe there was an incident at the sauna forcing this... | |||
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"Most Saunas operate a Membership Scheme as they operate as Members Clubs - they are just abiding by the Licencing Regs ….which is quite refreshing. where’s the problem ? I don’t see why OP needs to know our views - nosy parker ! " Let's say you have two saunas/clubs like Darlaston Greenhouse within walking distance of each other. Close proximity. One operates a membership policy where you have to give private personal details via photo ID. The other establishment is totally anonymous. Guess which one will undoubtedly be the busier? | |||
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"Most Saunas operate a Membership Scheme as they operate as Members Clubs - they are just abiding by the Licencing Regs ….which is quite refreshing. where’s the problem ? I don’t see why OP needs to know our views - nosy parker ! Let's say you have two saunas/clubs like Darlaston Greenhouse within walking distance of each other. Close proximity. One operates a membership policy where you have to give private personal details via photo ID. The other establishment is totally anonymous. Guess which one will undoubtedly be the busier? " Thank you for pointing out the obvious to professor dumbass! | |||
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"Most Saunas operate a Membership Scheme as they operate as Members Clubs - they are just abiding by the Licencing Regs ….which is quite refreshing. where’s the problem ? I don’t see why OP needs to know our views - nosy parker ! Let's say you have two saunas/clubs like Darlaston Greenhouse within walking distance of each other. Close proximity. One operates a membership policy where you have to give private personal details via photo ID. The other establishment is totally anonymous. Guess which one will undoubtedly be the busier? Thank you for pointing out the obvious to professor dumbass!" No problem, sexy...  | |||
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"Most Saunas operate a Membership Scheme as they operate as Members Clubs - they are just abiding by the Licencing Regs ….which is quite refreshing. where’s the problem ? I don’t see why OP needs to know our views - nosy parker ! I don't need to know your views on anything. Your levels of ignorance are not in doubt. It's nothing to do with licensing regs. The other greenhouse saunas aren't mentioning a membership scheme. " Licensing is operated by the local authority so one might apply the legislation more vigorously than the other. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a safeguarding issue. | |||
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"Most Saunas operate a Membership Scheme as they operate as Members Clubs - they are just abiding by the Licencing Regs ….which is quite refreshing. where’s the problem ? I don’t see why OP needs to know our views - nosy parker ! Let's say you have two saunas/clubs like Darlaston Greenhouse within walking distance of each other. Close proximity. One operates a membership policy where you have to give private personal details via photo ID. The other establishment is totally anonymous. Guess which one will undoubtedly be the busier? " If it's been introduced by the local licensing authority both businesses would be subject to the same criteria. | |||
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"I stick to £10 and no membership card at Spartan " Yep, Spartan is nicecenough  | |||
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"Doesn't the Basement in Manchester operate a membership scheme? I'm sure Bolts in B'ham used to, no idea if it still does. It could just be about ensuring all those attending are 18 and over." Basement always did yes, and charged a membership fee. | |||
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"I read on another site that the police were there on Sunday, maybe it’s linked to that." I would wager something has forced their hand into doing this. If an unsavoury incident occurs they have names. | |||
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"I read on another site that the police were there on Sunday, maybe it’s linked to that. I would wager something has forced their hand into doing this. If an unsavoury incident occurs they have names. " What do you think may have happened | |||
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"Most of these places have you on cctv, or some of you pay by card, so why are you bothered about them having your ID..lol" Try and think about all the trans girls who value their identity. They wish to be regarded as female. This is now a no go area for many girls. Why aren't you trying to support other girls? | |||
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"Been this morning and it was as busy as a normal Tuesday " That's good to hear. Did you have to submit your ID for a membership card? | |||
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"I did yes" OK good I'm glad this isn't just a rumour. I hope the membership card is worth having in my purse. | |||
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"They said it’s just on their system and won’t be shared with anyone else" Personally I would like that in writing from them. If anybody is going to make money out of my data. Then I would rather it's me. | |||
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"Interesting how casually some regard their future identity safety. So you have to give this place a photo of yourself and personal details. How strong will their data protection systems be that this data doesn't get out by accident or design?. So then you have your face linked unequivocally to a sexual entertainment venue. For some that isn't a problem but for some, probably the majority, that is not a risk worth taking. I wonder if this is a council or police initiative? And if so why? Well as the Dragons say "ahm oot!"" This is the type of place were security isn't going to be top notch and info could easily be leaked. If you were a 'straight' married business owner for example would you put yourself at risk? Of course it doesnt matter if you are out and you have nothing to lose. | |||
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"It’s credit card size and they write your membership number on the back " Did you show your drivers licence? | |||
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"Interesting how casually some regard their future identity safety. So you have to give this place a photo of yourself and personal details. How strong will their data protection systems be that this data doesn't get out by accident or design?. So then you have your face linked unequivocally to a sexual entertainment venue. For some that isn't a problem but for some, probably the majority, that is not a risk worth taking. I wonder if this is a council or police initiative? And if so why? Well as the Dragons say "ahm oot!" This is the type of place were security isn't going to be top notch and info could easily be leaked. If you were a 'straight' married business owner for example would you put yourself at risk? Of course it doesnt matter if you are out and you have nothing to lose. " No one is out to get you and expose that you’re gay / bi, I doubt anyone cares enough. | |||
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"It’s credit card size and they write your membership number on the back Did you show your drivers licence?" Yes I did and a guy in front of me showed a pic of his passport on his phone | |||
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"Interesting how casually some regard their future identity safety. So you have to give this place a photo of yourself and personal details. How strong will their data protection systems be that this data doesn't get out by accident or design?. So then you have your face linked unequivocally to a sexual entertainment venue. For some that isn't a problem but for some, probably the majority, that is not a risk worth taking. I wonder if this is a council or police initiative? And if so why? Well as the Dragons say "ahm oot!" This is the type of place were security isn't going to be top notch and info could easily be leaked. If you were a 'straight' married business owner for example would you put yourself at risk? Of course it doesnt matter if you are out and you have nothing to lose. No one is out to get you and expose that you’re gay / bi, I doubt anyone cares enough. " Of course it's unlikely but it could leave someone open to bl*ckmail in certain circumstances. It is rare but it has happened to others in the past. | |||
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"It’s credit card size and they write your membership number on the back Did you show your drivers licence? Yes I did and a guy in front of me showed a pic of his passport on his phone" I wonder what the hell happened to instigate this. But it's a big enough venue to survive. If a place like the Foxy has to do this I can see it closing down. Which would be sad. | |||
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"They said it’s just on their system and won’t be shared with anyone else" That's fine then, because it's impossible for them to be hacked or for management to be careless and lose their membership details. | |||
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"Interesting how casually some regard their future identity safety. So you have to give this place a photo of yourself and personal details. How strong will their data protection systems be that this data doesn't get out by accident or design?. So then you have your face linked unequivocally to a sexual entertainment venue. For some that isn't a problem but for some, probably the majority, that is not a risk worth taking. I wonder if this is a council or police initiative? And if so why? Well as the Dragons say "ahm oot!" This is the type of place were security isn't going to be top notch and info could easily be leaked. If you were a 'straight' married business owner for example would you put yourself at risk? Of course it doesnt matter if you are out and you have nothing to lose. No one is out to get you and expose that you’re gay / bi, I doubt anyone cares enough. " That's an incredibly naive way of looking at it. | |||
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"'Finished with my woman 'cause She couldn't help me with my mind People think I'm insane because I am frowning all the time All day long I think of things But nothing seems to satisfy Think I'll lose my mind If I don't find something to pacify Can you help me Occupy my brain? Oh yeah I need someone to show me The things in life that I can't find I can't see the things that make True happiness, I must be blind Make a joke and I will sigh And you will laugh and I will cry Happiness I cannot feel And love to me is so unreal And so as you hear these words Telling you now of my state I tell you to enjoy life I wish I could but it's too late'" Come now - you are just being paranoid😉 | |||
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"They said it’s just on their system and won’t be shared with anyone else That's fine then, because it's impossible for them to be hacked or for management to be careless and lose their membership details." Yes it was on a card index Id feel happier but if its on a PC network then its subject to the full GDPR regime for control but the track record of data breaches says GDPR counts for little. | |||
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"Interesting how casually some regard their future identity safety. So you have to give this place a photo of yourself and personal details. How strong will their data protection systems be that this data doesn't get out by accident or design?. So then you have your face linked unequivocally to a sexual entertainment venue. For some that isn't a problem but for some, probably the majority, that is not a risk worth taking. I wonder if this is a council or police initiative? And if so why? Well as the Dragons say "ahm oot!" This is the type of place were security isn't going to be top notch and info could easily be leaked. If you were a 'straight' married business owner for example would you put yourself at risk? Of course it doesnt matter if you are out and you have nothing to lose. " I was a "straight", married business owner! And Im very carefull about protecting my identity and my other life. But if you dont care you'll be fine..... | |||
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"They'll bring out a loyalty card promotion next. " the boiler room in Brighton used to do that don't know if they still do xxx | |||
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"They said it’s just on their system and won’t be shared with anyone else That's fine then, because it's impossible for them to be hacked or for management to be careless and lose their membership details." Exactly lol. I don't think saunas are associated with high-spec data security measures... | |||
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"Condition of getting licence in Scotland. Changes venue from being public entertainment to a private club. Better for everyone. I pay £9.00 a year. Not a lot for the safety" What safety are you referring to? | |||
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"I was building enough courage to go here. Looking for anon bb was a huge one for me. This has put me off now. " I think it's been done in a rather selfish way. They could've started telling people a month ago. To at least give reassurance to nervous customers. As I'm someone who is only allowed in on a Friday. I could've turned up next Friday without my passport or driving licence. After driving up from Bath. I'm not very keen on going there, and staying overnight,in one of the hotel rooms. Just to spend my time there trading insults with gay men. Which is what happened last week. I advise you to give it a month or so. To see if things change in your favour. Then either take the plunge there, or go to Northwich. Where no membership or personal details are required. | |||
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"I was building enough courage to go here. Looking for anon bb was a huge one for me. This has put me off now. I think it's been done in a rather selfish way. They could've started telling people a month ago. To at least give reassurance to nervous customers. As I'm someone who is only allowed in on a Friday. I could've turned up next Friday without my passport or driving licence. After driving up from Bath. I'm not very keen on going there, and staying overnight,in one of the hotel rooms. Just to spend my time there trading insults with gay men. Which is what happened last week. I advise you to give it a month or so. To see if things change in your favour. Then either take the plunge there, or go to Northwich. Where no membership or personal details are required. " They got hit with it pretty quick I’m afraid hence the sudden rush | |||
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"I was building enough courage to go here. Looking for anon bb was a huge one for me. This has put me off now. I think it's been done in a rather selfish way. They could've started telling people a month ago. To at least give reassurance to nervous customers. As I'm someone who is only allowed in on a Friday. I could've turned up next Friday without my passport or driving licence. After driving up from Bath. I'm not very keen on going there, and staying overnight,in one of the hotel rooms. Just to spend my time there trading insults with gay men. Which is what happened last week. I advise you to give it a month or so. To see if things change in your favour. Then either take the plunge there, or go to Northwich. Where no membership or personal details are required. " and a lot more cock lol xxx | |||
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" Come now - you are just being paranoid " Just thought it was appropriate to this forum. I daresay any data is vulnerable in the modern world. I'm just wondering why, given all the banks, building socities, retail outlets etc. etc. someone would think to hack gay sauna in Wolverhampton. | |||
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"They’re not going to give third parties access to their data, and they’re not going to expose that you go to gay saunas. Not that serious in my opinion. " yes just like you get yourself fleeced by some other dubious person,my god your so naive well your a nipper you go ahead give your details suffer the consequences later | |||
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"They said it’s just on their system and won’t be shared with anyone else" and have you heard of hackers or you been living under a rock , obviously living under a rock | |||
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"Interesting how casually some regard their future identity safety. So you have to give this place a photo of yourself and personal details. How strong will their data protection systems be that this data doesn't get out by accident or design?. So then you have your face linked unequivocally to a sexual entertainment venue. For some that isn't a problem but for some, probably the majority, that is not a risk worth taking. I wonder if this is a council or police initiative? And if so why? Well as the Dragons say "ahm oot!" This is the type of place were security isn't going to be top notch and info could easily be leaked. If you were a 'straight' married business owner for example would you put yourself at risk? Of course it doesnt matter if you are out and you have nothing to lose. " I agree hundred percent I wouldn't touch that place now with a barge pole | |||
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"Interesting how casually some regard their future identity safety. So you have to give this place a photo of yourself and personal details. How strong will their data protection systems be that this data doesn't get out by accident or design?. So then you have your face linked unequivocally to a sexual entertainment venue. For some that isn't a problem but for some, probably the majority, that is not a risk worth taking. I wonder if this is a council or police initiative? And if so why? Well as the Dragons say "ahm oot!" This is the type of place were security isn't going to be top notch and info could easily be leaked. If you were a 'straight' married business owner for example would you put yourself at risk? Of course it doesnt matter if you are out and you have nothing to lose. " What would be leaked? A six figure date of birth and a sixteen digit driving licence number? And then what? Soneone hacks into DVLA and makes a huge guess that you're a closet poof? Daft. Your digital footprint elsewhere is probably a big giveaway. It's just that you don't consider it. | |||
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"I've just been told that anybody now going to the Greenhouse Darlaston will need a membership. You will need to provide either a driving licence or a passport. To provide photo identification. They will keep on record your date of birth and driving licence number or passport number. Please let me know how you feel about this. This identification membership will be needed for both entry and hotel room." No way.! | |||
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"Club Zeus in Mansfield operate a membership policy - £5 - they say it’s to enable them to carry on offering a men only establishment- so are not discriminating - don’t know if true or not. " Bollocks. Just a way to make more money. Wouldn't mind if it was a pleasant place instead of a dump | |||
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"Age verification is coming for websites with sexual content. The most convenient and reliable way of verifying age is by driving licence or passport. I assume that there will be a mass exodus from this site when verification becomes a legal requirement." Yep. Gather Yee contacts.lol | |||
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" Come now - you are just being paranoid Just thought it was appropriate to this forum. I daresay any data is vulnerable in the modern world. I'm just wondering why, given all the banks, building socities, retail outlets etc. etc. someone would think to hack gay sauna in Wolverhampton." It's not in Wolverhampton! You can't even get that bit right. | |||
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"Hell of a journey. Must be murder if you use public transport. " I rely on public transport and would go to sauna sauna if it wasn't such a pain to get to. | |||
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"Hell of a journey. Must be murder if you use public transport. " I've heard that people go to Green Bank station then walk or use uber | |||
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"Are the aroma bottles free at the bar? Got my membership last Saturday usually have to pay for a bottle at reception but when I asked for one at the bar I wasn't charged. " It seems you got lucky. They're usually around £10 . | |||
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"I did think that but he didn't ask me to pay so didn't offer lol" The way it's going there. I wouldn't be surprised if it shuts down. Which would be sad. I've had some great times there. | |||
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"I was building enough courage to go here. Looking for anon bb was a huge one for me. This has put me off now. " There are other venues Not as big that don’t charge Heroes In Stourbridge or Spartan in Erdington for example | |||
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"I was building enough courage to go here. Looking for anon bb was a huge one for me. This has put me off now. " Just go to Sauna Sauna in Northwich | |||
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"I was building enough courage to go here. Looking for anon bb was a huge one for me. This has put me off now. Just go to Sauna Sauna in Northwich " Yeah it's handy for those close to Darlaston lol Easier to go to Sweet Wednesday and cheaper from Birmingham via train... The Attic too... | |||
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"Their sister site Chams have been downing memberships for decades, I’m sure they know what they are doing.. It’s part of their licensing requirements they are forced to do, it’s eaither that or lose the license. Think people are over reacting a bit here.. Your phones the biggest security risk any of you have.. how safe do you believe some of these sites and apps your visiting are… It’s the only sauna for miles that caters for all, CD TV Bears naked days.. Use it of risk loosing it!! " | |||
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"Their sister site Chams have been downing memberships for decades, I’m sure they know what they are doing.. It’s part of their licensing requirements they are forced to do, it’s eaither that or lose the license. Absolutely Think people are over reacting a bit here.. Your phones the biggest security risk any of you have.. how safe do you believe some of these sites and apps your visiting are… It’s the only sauna for miles that caters for all, CD TV Bears naked days.. Use it of risk loosing it!! " | |||
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"So will Luton be doing the same?" I'm not sure. But I wouldn't be surprised. | |||
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"So will Luton be doing the same?" Luton ask for id on Tuesdays as there may be women there. Been doing that for ages. Not sure about other days. | |||
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"Condition of getting licence in Scotland. Changes venue from being public entertainment to a private club. Better for everyone. I pay £9.00 a year. Not a lot for the safety What safety are you referring to? " Safe place to play, they have the right to eject trouble makers and can operate without fear of police raids unless there are reports of things that breach the licence conditions. Worth the membership. | |||
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"I’m thinking of paying a visit tonight, anyone tell me what a Sunday evening is like x" I understand its very relaxing and can be less busy than a Saturday. However you will not be allowed in dressed. Tgirl day is on a Friday. It was quite good last Friday. Tgirls, Trans, CDs, aren't allowed in on other days, as we tend to frighten the gay and bi men. | |||
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"It’s a shame they dont do a bi tv cd. Mf mixed night like northwhich each month . Think it would be popular as the northwich one is fab and gets extremely busy. " I agree x They do a similar thing at Newport. But not sure if it's any good. X | |||
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"I went last Friday and was given membership card, no hassle and straightforward. Good crowd there too, so looks like it's not putting people off." What ID did they ask for? Do they only accept passport/driver's license? | |||
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"It’s a shame they dont do a bi tv cd. Mf mixed night like northwhich each month . Think it would be popular as the northwich one is fab and gets extremely busy. " they do, sheDazzle every Friday | |||
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"It’s a shame they dont do a bi tv cd. Mf mixed night like northwhich each month . Think it would be popular as the northwich one is fab and gets extremely busy. they do, sheDazzle every Friday" No they don’t it’s male and tv only | |||
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