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"Those souls you care about, just not the ones fleeing war or persecution. Are your thoughts reserved for dead, only? Or is that too qualified?" You need to change whatever the fuck it is you're smoking | |||
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"Wasn't you who started immigrant hotel thens? Just certain souls.... right???? Hopes and prayers " Have a day off, fella, for f***s sake | |||
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"Wasn't you who started immigrant hotel thens? Just certain souls.... right???? Hopes and prayers Have a day off, fella, for f***s sake" | |||
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"If you find the reflection difficult to look at it's not the person holding the mirror you need to berat. Are souls now qualified? Can we feel sorry for Americans but not refugees?" Berat? What's a city in Albania got to do with anything?? | |||
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"If you find the reflection difficult to look at it's not the person holding the mirror you need to berat. Are souls now qualified? Can we feel sorry for Americans but not refugees? Berat? What's a city in Albania got to do with anything??" Blimey these people with no arguments love to pull people up on spelling or grammar Berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate Ten times enough? Have I drummed into me now? Is my spelling mistake enough of a stick for you to beat me with because I'm pointing out an uncomfortable truth? You feign sorrow for dead souls in America but not living ones fleeing war and seeking sanctuary and dying along the way? | |||
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"If you find the reflection difficult to look at it's not the person holding the mirror you need to berat. Are souls now qualified? Can we feel sorry for Americans but not refugees? Berat? What's a city in Albania got to do with anything?? Blimey these people with no arguments love to pull people up on spelling or grammar Berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate Ten times enough? Have I drummed into me now? Is my spelling mistake enough of a stick for you to beat me with because I'm pointing out an uncomfortable truth? You feign sorrow for dead souls in America but not living ones fleeing war and seeking sanctuary and dying along the way?" I'm confused. At what point did i show any sorrow for the US Air Crash victims?? Feigning or otherwise? And at what point did i comment that I had no sorrow for people fleeing conflict?? (Psst, it's at this point you click on the green arrow next to my profile name and try to find something contentious I've said in other forum threads). | |||
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"If you find the reflection difficult to look at it's not the person holding the mirror you need to berat. Are souls now qualified? Can we feel sorry for Americans but not refugees? Berat? What's a city in Albania got to do with anything?? Blimey these people with no arguments love to pull people up on spelling or grammar Berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate Ten times enough? Have I drummed into me now? Is my spelling mistake enough of a stick for you to beat me with because I'm pointing out an uncomfortable truth? You feign sorrow for dead souls in America but not living ones fleeing war and seeking sanctuary and dying along the way? I'm confused. At what point did i show any sorrow for the US Air Crash victims?? Feigning or otherwise? And at what point did i comment that I had no sorrow for people fleeing conflict?? (Psst, it's at this point you click on the green arrow next to my profile name and try to find something contentious I've said in other forum threads). " Your replying to me in a thread might want to know what your joining I have no interest in pressing your green button or any other | |||
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"If you find the reflection difficult to look at it's not the person holding the mirror you need to berat. Are souls now qualified? Can we feel sorry for Americans but not refugees? Berat? What's a city in Albania got to do with anything?? Blimey these people with no arguments love to pull people up on spelling or grammar Berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate Ten times enough? Have I drummed into me now? Is my spelling mistake enough of a stick for you to beat me with because I'm pointing out an uncomfortable truth? You feign sorrow for dead souls in America but not living ones fleeing war and seeking sanctuary and dying along the way? I'm confused. At what point did i show any sorrow for the US Air Crash victims?? Feigning or otherwise? And at what point did i comment that I had no sorrow for people fleeing conflict?? (Psst, it's at this point you click on the green arrow next to my profile name and try to find something contentious I've said in other forum threads). Your replying to me in a thread might want to know what your joining I have no interest in pressing your green button or any other " “You’re replying to me in a thread might want to know what you’re joining” what on earth are you trying to say? Did you miss some punctuation or did you mean to write jibberish? | |||
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"If you find the reflection difficult to look at it's not the person holding the mirror you need to berat. Are souls now qualified? Can we feel sorry for Americans but not refugees? Berat? What's a city in Albania got to do with anything?? Blimey these people with no arguments love to pull people up on spelling or grammar Berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate Ten times enough? Have I drummed into me now? Is my spelling mistake enough of a stick for you to beat me with because I'm pointing out an uncomfortable truth? You feign sorrow for dead souls in America but not living ones fleeing war and seeking sanctuary and dying along the way?" Tell us your anger is out of control without telling us your anger is out of control | |||
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"If you find the reflection difficult to look at it's not the person holding the mirror you need to berat. Are souls now qualified? Can we feel sorry for Americans but not refugees? Berat? What's a city in Albania got to do with anything?? Blimey these people with no arguments love to pull people up on spelling or grammar Berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate Ten times enough? Have I drummed into me now? Is my spelling mistake enough of a stick for you to beat me with because I'm pointing out an uncomfortable truth? You feign sorrow for dead souls in America but not living ones fleeing war and seeking sanctuary and dying along the way? Tell us your anger is out of control without telling us your anger is out of control" Sure thing, my sympathy isn't with those who righted in the summer. | |||
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"Those souls you care about, just not the ones fleeing war or persecution. Are your thoughts reserved for dead, only? Or is that too qualified?" It's not the point, and you bloody know it so don't be disingenuous. It's about humanity, promise and ended- futures, same as some poor fucker seeking refuge and meeting instead, death. Provocation doesn't elevate you. | |||
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"If you find the reflection difficult to look at it's not the person holding the mirror you need to berat. Are souls now qualified? Can we feel sorry for Americans but not refugees? Berat? What's a city in Albania got to do with anything?? Blimey these people with no arguments love to pull people up on spelling or grammar Berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate Ten times enough? Have I drummed into me now? Is my spelling mistake enough of a stick for you to beat me with because I'm pointing out an uncomfortable truth? You feign sorrow for dead souls in America but not living ones fleeing war and seeking sanctuary and dying along the way? Tell us your anger is out of control without telling us your anger is out of control Sure thing, my sympathy isn't with those who righted in the summer. " I don't mean to be rude but what the actual fuck are you rambling on about?! I'm kind of embarrassed for you. | |||
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"If it's about humanity then the author of this thread would extend it to those people on hotels in Britain " Which hotels? | |||
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"Those souls you care about, just not the ones fleeing war or persecution. Are your thoughts reserved for dead, only? Or is that too qualified?" I feel sorry for you. To turn around the initial post immediately with this. Sad. Chip shoulder! | |||
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"If it's about humanity then the author of this thread would extend it to those people on hotels in Britain " And you should extend it to wherever it is needed and cease your detached ibtellectual masturbation Some things are bigger than our differences. Most of us just know that by intuition. | |||
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"Are you the author of this? https://m.fabguys.com/forum/gay-lounge/1628278 You have no sympathy with other people here but apparently you do if they drop from an American sky " What has my questioning the priorities of our government got to do with a plane crash in the US? If you set your agenda aside for a sweet moment and actually read my post maybe you will see it was questioning the Labour Party. Please do feel free by all means to quote where I supposedly said I have no sympathy for those fleeing war. Oh that's right, I didn't did I! | |||
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"If it's about humanity then the author of this thread would extend it to those people on hotels in Britain " You’ve got issues you really need to personally address mate | |||
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"Are you the author of this? https://m.fabguys.com/forum/gay-lounge/1628278 You have no sympathy with other people here but apparently you do if they drop from an American sky What has my questioning the priorities of our government got to do with a plane crash in the US? If you set your agenda aside for a sweet moment and actually read my post maybe you will see it was questioning the Labour Party. Please do feel free by all means to quote where I supposedly said I have no sympathy for those fleeing war. Oh that's right, I didn't did I! " If we have money to house people who have broken the law in 4 star hotels, money to feed them and give them pocket money why don't we have money to give our vulnerable elderly their heating allowance? Absolutely none of that is true! If you want a discussion I'm here | |||
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"Are you the author of this? https://m.fabguys.com/forum/gay-lounge/1628278 You have no sympathy with other people here but apparently you do if they drop from an American sky What has my questioning the priorities of our government got to do with a plane crash in the US? If you set your agenda aside for a sweet moment and actually read my post maybe you will see it was questioning the Labour Party. Please do feel free by all means to quote where I supposedly said I have no sympathy for those fleeing war. Oh that's right, I didn't did I! If we have money to house people who have broken the law in 4 star hotels, money to feed them and give them pocket money why don't we have money to give our vulnerable elderly their heating allowance? Absolutely none of that is true! If you want a discussion I'm here " Leave Wales and come down to Peterborough. A mile down the road from me there's a 4 star hotel full of young men from Pakistan. What war are they fleeing? | |||
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" If we have money to house people who have broken the law in 4 star hotels, money to feed them and give them pocket money why don't we have money to give our vulnerable elderly their heating allowance? Absolutely none of that is true! If you want a discussion I'm here " Oh for Gods's sake. People who break the law are in prison or fined. People seeking asylum are given shelter and dignity. As is the law. As is common human decency FFS | |||
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"Are you the author of this? https://m.fabguys.com/forum/gay-lounge/1628278 You have no sympathy with other people here but apparently you do if they drop from an American sky What has my questioning the priorities of our government got to do with a plane crash in the US? If you set your agenda aside for a sweet moment and actually read my post maybe you will see it was questioning the Labour Party. Please do feel free by all means to quote where I supposedly said I have no sympathy for those fleeing war. Oh that's right, I didn't did I! If we have money to house people who have broken the law in 4 star hotels, money to feed them and give them pocket money why don't we have money to give our vulnerable elderly their heating allowance? Absolutely none of that is true! If you want a discussion I'm here Leave Wales and come down to Peterborough. A mile down the road from me there's a 4 star hotel full of young men from Pakistan. What war are they fleeing?" If it ever was a 4 star hotel it isn't once the government takes over. How do you know they're all from Pakistan? Spoken to them? What's your problem with Pakistani men? I was brought and bred in Cardiff! Your attitude towards Wales says everything, Cardiff is one of the most multicultureld cities in one of the most multicultureld countries. My grandad used to run the streets with Shirley bassey, my mother had a Welsh - Somali best friend, when I grew up with Hindu next door neighbour and a bajan woman opposite us I don't get what your worried/frightened of | |||
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"Are you the author of this? https://m.fabguys.com/forum/gay-lounge/1628278 You have no sympathy with other people here but apparently you do if they drop from an American sky What has my questioning the priorities of our government got to do with a plane crash in the US? If you set your agenda aside for a sweet moment and actually read my post maybe you will see it was questioning the Labour Party. Please do feel free by all means to quote where I supposedly said I have no sympathy for those fleeing war. Oh that's right, I didn't did I! If we have money to house people who have broken the law in 4 star hotels, money to feed them and give them pocket money why don't we have money to give our vulnerable elderly their heating allowance? Absolutely none of that is true! If you want a discussion I'm here Leave Wales and come down to Peterborough. A mile down the road from me there's a 4 star hotel full of young men from Pakistan. What war are they fleeing? If it ever was a 4 star hotel it isn't once the government takes over. How do you know they're all from Pakistan? Spoken to them? What's your problem with Pakistani men? I was brought and bred in Cardiff! Your attitude towards Wales says everything, Cardiff is one of the most multicultureld cities in one of the most multicultureld countries. My grandad used to run the streets with Shirley bassey, my mother had a Welsh - Somali best friend, when I grew up with Hindu next door neighbour and a bajan woman opposite us I don't get what your worried/frightened of " Yet again pushing your twisted agenda. I have no issue with Pakistani men. Far from it. I simply asked you to explain what war they are fleeing? Simple enough question. Similarly I have no idea what you think My opinion of wales is. I like Wales very much. If you're interested. | |||
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"People from Pakistan wouldn't be allowed asylum, Pakistan is safe democracy " Amazing how posts can get highjacked so quickly, with their own deep repeating agenda's. | |||
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"People from Pakistan wouldn't be allowed asylum, Pakistan is safe democracy Amazing how posts can get highjacked so quickly, with their own deep repeating agenda's." Some people just can't help themselves and have to hijack threads to promote their own agendas. All very sad but they have to get their attention and anger out somehow I guess | |||
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"Are you the author of this? https://m.fabguys.com/forum/gay-lounge/1628278 You have no sympathy with other people here but apparently you do if they drop from an American sky What has my questioning the priorities of our government got to do with a plane crash in the US? If you set your agenda aside for a sweet moment and actually read my post maybe you will see it was questioning the Labour Party. Please do feel free by all means to quote where I supposedly said I have no sympathy for those fleeing war. Oh that's right, I didn't did I! If we have money to house people who have broken the law in 4 star hotels, money to feed them and give them pocket money why don't we have money to give our vulnerable elderly their heating allowance? Absolutely none of that is true! If you want a discussion I'm here Leave Wales and come down to Peterborough. A mile down the road from me there's a 4 star hotel full of young men from Pakistan. What war are they fleeing?" Hotel full of men from Pakistan??? | |||
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"But so long as we hate those hotel Pakistani but those Americans in planes" Cray cray button, activated | |||
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"Sure thing sweetie I got receipts " I don't think any of us doubted that | |||
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"Maybe the Pakistani guys in that hotel are tourists, just soaking up all the many cultural attractions of Peterborough and the surrounding fenland." Or maybe their British and brown | |||
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"Yes it is very sad news and it is a tragedy and they are poor souls. So whoever argues with that or tries to weaponise it for political or any other agenda can kiss my arse. " In here, being a gay/bi site,… that amounts to an invitation  | |||
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"Yes it is very sad news and it is a tragedy and they are poor souls. So whoever argues with that or tries to weaponise it for political or any other agenda can kiss my arse. " people were killed... many of them children. This angry individual has hijacked the post for his sick reasons and has just told me to "blow up" Nice guy | |||
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"Yes it is very sad news and it is a tragedy and they are poor souls. So whoever argues with that or tries to weaponise it for political or any other agenda can kiss my arse. people were killed... many of them children. This angry individual has hijacked the post for his sick reasons and has just told me to "blow up" Nice guy"absolutely you watch that angry individual, boy is he mad . | |||
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"Maybe the Pakistani guys in that hotel are tourists, just soaking up all the many cultural attractions of Peterborough and the surrounding fenland. Or maybe their British and brown " Or maybe they are researching their family trees from the early 60's? When their great grandparents worked 12 to 16 hours a day in the brick yards and earned £5 to £6 a week. Most walked several kilometres (sometimes even up to 15 kilometres) to and from work on a daily basis. Or maybe looking at the direct, rampant racism, where people were racially abused, intimidated, threatened, chased whilst walking alone, physically attacked; so-called ‘Paki-bashing’ was a regular occurrence. Those earliest generations were very law-abiding, non-confrontational people and they generally accepted that racism was part of their everyday life to be endured. Hey, we are nearly 70 years on and still people are posting Paki bashing shit on a gay hook up site. | |||
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"Maybe the Pakistani guys in that hotel are tourists, just soaking up all the many cultural attractions of Peterborough and the surrounding fenland. Or maybe their British and brown Or maybe they are researching their family trees from the early 60's? When their great grandparents worked 12 to 16 hours a day in the brick yards and earned £5 to £6 a week. Most walked several kilometres (sometimes even up to 15 kilometres) to and from work on a daily basis. Or maybe looking at the direct, rampant racism, where people were racially abused, intimidated, threatened, chased whilst walking alone, physically attacked; so-called ‘Paki-bashing’ was a regular occurrence. Those earliest generations were very law-abiding, non-confrontational people and they generally accepted that racism was part of their everyday life to be endured. Hey, we are nearly 70 years on and still people are posting Paki bashing shit on a gay hook up site." I simply asked a question. Some of us are old enough to remember a time when you could still challenge something without fear of vexatious allegations | |||
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"If you find the reflection difficult to look at it's not the person holding the mirror you need to berat. Are souls now qualified? Can we feel sorry for Americans but not refugees?" I have read your inputs, normally with relief at a fellow traveller, but in this you are sounding like 30p Lee. Please take a break | |||
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"If you find the reflection difficult to look at it's not the person holding the mirror you need to berat. Are souls now qualified? Can we feel sorry for Americans but not refugees? I have read your inputs, normally with relief at a fellow traveller, but in this you are sounding like 30p Lee. Please take a break" | |||
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"Such sad news coming from the States. Those poor souls may the rest in peace " Sad beyond words, my thoughts are with the families and loved ones of those affected. May they find comfort and strength during this difficult time. To those who perished in this awful atrocity :- Requiescant In Pace. | |||
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"If you find the reflection difficult to look at it's not the person holding the mirror you need to berat. Are souls now qualified? Can we feel sorry for Americans but not refugees? Berat? What's a city in Albania got to do with anything?? Blimey these people with no arguments love to pull people up on spelling or grammar Berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate Ten times enough? Have I drummed into me now? Is my spelling mistake enough of a stick for you to beat me with because I'm pointing out an uncomfortable truth? You feign sorrow for dead souls in America but not living ones fleeing war and seeking sanctuary and dying along the way?" Its terrible the war in France gets no coverage in the news.  | |||
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"People from Pakistan wouldn't be allowed asylum, Pakistan is safe democracy " I can tell you a story about a young university student from Pakistan in Bristol, who fell for a guy here, was disowned by his family (who cut off his funding) and was granted asylum by the UK. He faced life imprisonment if he went back to Pakistan. | |||
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" Leave Wales and come down to Peterborough. A mile down the road from me there's a 4 star hotel full of young men from Pakistan. What war are they fleeing?" It's the job of the state to find out. Pakistan is a volatile place. Two weeks ago, a boat carrying migrants from the west coast of Africa to the Canary Islands capsized off Dakhla, Western Sahara. Of the 50 people who drowned, 44 were from Pakistan. Pakistan has flown home 22 nationals who survived. During 2024, Spain estimates 10,000 people drowned trying to make the crossing to the Canary Islands. | |||
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"So... no wars in Pakistan then. Everywhere is volatile in parts these days. Go to Tower hamlets dressed and totter down the high Street in your heels. See how warmly you are welcomed" I'm not disputing that there are volatile areas out there, but take out the "everywhere" and "these days" parts. Unless you can quantify that. Meanwhile, I completely agree about the airplane tragedy. | |||
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"Maybe the Pakistani guys in that hotel are tourists, just soaking up all the many cultural attractions of Peterborough and the surrounding fenland. Or maybe their British and brown Or maybe they are researching their family trees from the early 60's? When their great grandparents worked 12 to 16 hours a day in the brick yards and earned £5 to £6 a week. Most walked several kilometres (sometimes even up to 15 kilometres) to and from work on a daily basis. Or maybe looking at the direct, rampant racism, where people were racially abused, intimidated, threatened, chased whilst walking alone, physically attacked; so-called ‘Paki-bashing’ was a regular occurrence. Those earliest generations were very law-abiding, non-confrontational people and they generally accepted that racism was part of their everyday life to be endured. Hey, we are nearly 70 years on and still people are posting Paki bashing shit on a gay hook up site." So enlightened but couldn’t stop yourself using a racial slur to denote an action you so much got you pantys in a bunch over. So yes people are still posting this shit , it’s you  so far | |||
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WTF was a military helicopter doing flyi g through the civilian airport glide path approach of one of the busiest airports in the world? I hope they were not practicing war maneuvers with civilian aircraft? Once the investigation is complete their will need to be some very seriuos questions asked. | |||
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"If you find the reflection difficult to look at it's not the person holding the mirror you need to berat. Are souls now qualified? Can we feel sorry for Americans but not refugees? Berat? What's a city in Albania got to do with anything?? Blimey these people with no arguments love to pull people up on spelling or grammar Berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate Ten times enough? Have I drummed into me now? Is my spelling mistake enough of a stick for you to beat me with because I'm pointing out an uncomfortable truth? You feign sorrow for dead souls in America but not living ones fleeing war and seeking sanctuary and dying along the way? Its terrible the war in France gets no coverage in the news. "Lol I bet this guy believes, in freedoms!! Freedom of speech, freedom of expression freedom to choose, wait what they choose my country??!! | |||
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"Yeah RIP all the people that perished in that dreadful air crash, many that died were foreign nationals
WTF was a military helicopter doing flyi g through the civilian airport glide path approach of one of the busiest airports in the world? I hope they were not practicing war maneuvers with civilian aircraft? Once the investigation is complete their will need to be some very seriuos questions asked. "And those souls in the Med and and the English channel? Or not them? | |||
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"Yeah RIP all the people that perished in that dreadful air crash, many that died were foreign nationals
WTF was a military helicopter doing flyi g through the civilian airport glide path approach of one of the busiest airports in the world? I hope they were not practicing war maneuvers with civilian aircraft? Once the investigation is complete their will need to be some very seriuos questions asked.
And those souls in the Med and and the English channel? Or not them?"Out of curiosity, can a person not just be sorry for one death? Surely a person doesn't have to be sorry for every death ever? And surely that person can be sorry without being racist or xenophobic? Surely? | |||
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"Yeah RIP all the people that perished in that dreadful air crash, many that died were foreign nationals
WTF was a military helicopter doing flyi g through the civilian airport glide path approach of one of the busiest airports in the world? I hope they were not practicing war maneuvers with civilian aircraft? Once the investigation is complete their will need to be some very seriuos questions asked.
And those souls in the Med and and the English channel? Or not them?
Out of curiosity, can a person not just be sorry for one death? Surely a person doesn't have to be sorry for every death ever? And surely that person can be sorry without being racist or xenophobic? Surely? "Noooooo. Didn't you get the memo? If you show any remorse to incident where there were fatalities, you must also show remorse to refugees who die fleeing conflict/oppression. Otherwise you are labelled as feigning sympathy, or obviously not caring about them. 'Family of four killed in house fire' - how sad, my thoughts go out to them. Oh, and also any refugees who die fleeing conflict. 'School bus drives off bridge killing 14 children and driver' - such sad news, the poor parents. Oh, and of course the poor souls who died attempting to cross the channel. | |||
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"Yeah RIP all the people that perished in that dreadful air crash, many that died were foreign nationals
WTF was a military helicopter doing flyi g through the civilian airport glide path approach of one of the busiest airports in the world? I hope they were not practicing war maneuvers with civilian aircraft? Once the investigation is complete their will need to be some very seriuos questions asked.
And those souls in the Med and and the English channel? Or not them?
Out of curiosity, can a person not just be sorry for one death? Surely a person doesn't have to be sorry for every death ever? And surely that person can be sorry without being racist or xenophobic? Surely?
Noooooo. Didn't you get the memo?
If you show any remorse to incident where there were fatalities, you must also show remorse to refugees who die fleeing conflict/oppression.
Otherwise you are labelled as feigning sympathy, or obviously not caring about them.
'Family of four killed in house fire' - how sad, my thoughts go out to them. Oh, and also any refugees who die fleeing conflict.
'School bus drives off bridge killing 14 children and driver' - such sad news, the poor parents.
Oh, and of course the poor souls who died attempting to cross the channel."I did get the memo, I'm trying to find a loop hole, let's see what he comes back with, but I'm sure it won't end well for me. | |||
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"Yeah RIP all the people that perished in that dreadful air crash, many that died were foreign nationals
WTF was a military helicopter doing flyi g through the civilian airport glide path approach of one of the busiest airports in the world? I hope they were not practicing war maneuvers with civilian aircraft? Once the investigation is complete their will need to be some very seriuos questions asked.
And those souls in the Med and and the English channel? Or not them?
Out of curiosity, can a person not just be sorry for one death? Surely a person doesn't have to be sorry for every death ever? And surely that person can be sorry without being racist or xenophobic? Surely?
Noooooo. Didn't you get the memo?
If you show any remorse to incident where there were fatalities, you must also show remorse to refugees who die fleeing conflict/oppression.
Otherwise you are labelled as feigning sympathy, or obviously not caring about them.
'Family of four killed in house fire' - how sad, my thoughts go out to them. Oh, and also any refugees who die fleeing conflict.
'School bus drives off bridge killing 14 children and driver' - such sad news, the poor parents.
Oh, and of course the poor souls who died attempting to cross the channel.
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"Death is death, pray for them or don't they won't know What I'm trying to pierce is people's hioocrisy towards some deaths and not others because of the terms used, so a plane of Americans crashing conjures an image of....we feel sorry for, a boat with death of migrants...... crickets But it's still people dying needlessly, grieving family One is seen as sorrow the other as shouldn't of got on that boat But if you want to pretend this is anything else but cultural grooming that's up to you " Consider this: what if two people died, one of them you liked and grieve for, the other you didn't like and did not grieve for. You didn't like this person because of something they did, not because of anything to do with how they look or where they came from. Is that situation okay or not okay? | |||
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"Those souls you care about, just not the ones fleeing war or persecution. Are your thoughts reserved for dead, only? Or is that too qualified? "You need to change whatever the fuck it is you're smoking" | |||
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"So death is qualified? People we like and people we don't? Sorrow for those suffering around the good/bad dead???? Because after all they are the ones who see your feign sympathy for people you've never met " It seems the issue here is your terminology, what precisely do you mean by "qualified" please? | |||
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"So death is qualified? People we like and people we don't? Sorrow for those suffering around the good/bad dead???? Because after all they are the ones who see your feign sympathy for people you've never met It seems the issue here is your terminology, what precisely do you mean by "qualified" please? " Words have meaning look it up You deflecting from introspection | |||
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"If you find the reflection difficult to look at it's not the person holding the mirror you need to berat. Are souls now qualified? Can we feel sorry for Americans but not refugees? Berat? What's a city in Albania got to do with anything?? Blimey these people with no arguments love to pull people up on spelling or grammar Berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate Ten times enough? Have I drummed into me now? Is my spelling mistake enough of a stick for you to beat me with because I'm pointing out an uncomfortable truth? You feign sorrow for dead souls in America but not living ones fleeing war and seeking sanctuary and dying along the way? Its terrible the war in France gets no coverage in the news.
Lol I bet this guy believes, in freedoms!! Freedom of speech, freedom of expression freedom to choose, wait what they choose my country??!!"They choose also to get in the boat free choice , some choose in this country to question where some are coming from and the more envious how they have the latest Mobil phone and where’s the charging port in their dinghy . Not to mention they seem a little flaky with their family connections being predominantly younger males they have done a bunk leaving their families to face the conflicts and oppression they found so hard to bare. Not the type you want next to you at an away game at Millwall | |||
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"So death is qualified? People we like and people we don't? Sorrow for those suffering around the good/bad dead???? Because after all they are the ones who see your feign sympathy for people you've never met It seems the issue here is your terminology, what precisely do you mean by "qualified" please? Words have meaning look it up You deflecting from introspection " Fair point, I can look up the meaning, but I rather suspect that you not answering the question means that you dont understand the meaning, hence making little to no sense. As regards introspection, I am sad if someone I like dies, I am not sad if someone I don't like dies. That's just normal and there's nothing wrong with that. The circumstances of death are a different matter and I think that is what you're getting at here. | |||
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Lol I bet this guy believes, in freedoms!! Freedom of speech, freedom of expression freedom to choose, wait what they choose my country??!!
They choose also to get in the boat free choice , some choose in this country to question where some are coming from and the more envious how they have the latest Mobil phone and where’s the charging port in their dinghy .
Not to mention they seem a little flaky with their family connections being predominantly younger males they have done a bunk leaving their families to face the conflicts and oppression they found so hard to bare.
Not the type you want next to you at an away game at Millwall "A lot to unpack here, they choose the UK not on familial basis but on language predominantly.....holla at me empire but we're proud of that right? Do they have the latest mobile phone? You know many? And see this? Also you can't access the government without the mobile phone and Internet in 2025 so theirs that???? Younger males are more likely to survive and get money that's the answer to that it's an unsafe journey (but we only show sympathy for certain souls). They are precisely the type I want by me. Hard working, stamina, determination and people who do the right thing Bringing millwall with those historic ties shoes me who you are | |||
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"So death is qualified? People we like and people we don't? Sorrow for those suffering around the good/bad dead???? Because after all they are the ones who see your feign sympathy for people you've never met It seems the issue here is your terminology, what precisely do you mean by "qualified" please? Words have meaning look it up You deflecting from introspection Fair point, I can look up the meaning, but I rather suspect that you not answering the question means that you dont understand the meaning, hence making little to no sense. As regards introspection, I am sad if someone I like dies, I am not sad if someone I don't like dies. That's just normal and there's nothing wrong with that. The circumstances of death are a different matter and I think that is what you're getting at here. " Not for other people's loss your loss, that's your qualification? Americans we like migrants we don't? You know there are black and brown Americans? Grooming??????? | |||
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"So death is qualified? People we like and people we don't? Sorrow for those suffering around the good/bad dead???? Because after all they are the ones who see your feign sympathy for people you've never met It seems the issue here is your terminology, what precisely do you mean by "qualified" please? Words have meaning look it up You deflecting from introspection Fair point, I can look up the meaning, but I rather suspect that you not answering the question means that you dont understand the meaning, hence making little to no sense. As regards introspection, I am sad if someone I like dies, I am not sad if someone I don't like dies. That's just normal and there's nothing wrong with that. The circumstances of death are a different matter and I think that is what you're getting at here. Not for other people's loss your loss, that's your qualification? Americans we like migrants we don't? You know there are black and brown Americans? Grooming???????" I see, that makes more sense now. In which case, to answer your question, yes, death is qualified, for all people. Sorted. Let's put this argument to bed now and leave the thread for it's intended purpose, for people to express their sorrow at the loss of those particular lives, regardless of qualification. | |||
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"So death is qualified? People we like and people we don't? Sorrow for those suffering around the good/bad dead???? Because after all they are the ones who see your feign sympathy for people you've never met It seems the issue here is your terminology, what precisely do you mean by "qualified" please? Words have meaning look it up You deflecting from introspection Fair point, I can look up the meaning, but I rather suspect that you not answering the question means that you dont understand the meaning, hence making little to no sense. As regards introspection, I am sad if someone I like dies, I am not sad if someone I don't like dies. That's just normal and there's nothing wrong with that. The circumstances of death are a different matter and I think that is what you're getting at here. Not for other people's loss your loss, that's your qualification? Americans we like migrants we don't? You know there are black and brown Americans? Grooming??????? I see, that makes more sense now. In which case, to answer your question, yes, death is qualified, for all people. Sorted. Let's put this argument to bed now and leave the thread for it's intended purpose, for people to express their sorrow at the loss of those particular lives, regardless of qualification. " Oh!! One of those Life and conversation and introspection is an ever evolving process You can't draw a line under it, make you feel good and move on!! Because you need to acknowledge and work on the reasons why you qualify certain deaths? Is that a good or bad thing? Does that sit comfortably with your soul? Will your family be happy to know he only liked Americans? When they read your obituary? | |||
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"If you find the reflection difficult to look at it's not the person holding the mirror you need to berat. Are souls now qualified? Can we feel sorry for Americans but not refugees? Berat? What's a city in Albania got to do with anything?? Blimey these people with no arguments love to pull people up on spelling or grammar Berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate Ten times enough? Have I drummed into me now? Is my spelling mistake enough of a stick for you to beat me with because I'm pointing out an uncomfortable truth? You feign sorrow for dead souls in America but not living ones fleeing war and seeking sanctuary and dying along the way? Its terrible the war in France gets no coverage in the news.
Lol I bet this guy believes, in freedoms!! Freedom of speech, freedom of expression freedom to choose, wait what they choose my country??!!
They choose also to get in the boat free choice , some choose in this country to question where some are coming from and the more envious how they have the latest Mobil phone and where’s the charging port in their dinghy .
Not to mention they seem a little flaky with their family connections being predominantly younger males they have done a bunk leaving their families to face the conflicts and oppression they found so hard to bare.
Not the type you want next to you at an away game at Millwall
A lot to unpack here, they choose the UK not on familial basis but on language predominantly.....holla at me empire but we're proud of that right?
Do they have the latest mobile phone? You know many? And see this? Also you can't access the government without the mobile phone and Internet in 2025 so theirs that????
Younger males are more likely to survive and get money that's the answer to that it's an unsafe journey (but we only show sympathy for certain souls).
They are precisely the type I want by me.
Hard working, stamina, determination and people who do the right thing
Bringing millwall with those historic ties shoes me who you are"Ties shoes, and what will you be wearing | |||
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Lol I bet this guy believes, in freedoms!! Freedom of speech, freedom of expression freedom to choose, wait what they choose my country??!!
They choose also to get in the boat free choice , some choose in this country to question where some are coming from and the more envious how they have the latest Mobil phone and where’s the charging port in their dinghy .
Not to mention they seem a little flaky with their family connections being predominantly younger males they have done a bunk leaving their families to face the conflicts and oppression they found so hard to bare.
Not the type you want next to you at an away game at Millwall
A lot to unpack here, they choose the UK not on familial basis but on language predominantly.....holla at me empire but we're proud of that right?
Do they have the latest mobile phone? You know many? And see this? Also you can't access the government without the mobile phone and Internet in 2025 so theirs that????
Younger males are more likely to survive and get money that's the answer to that it's an unsafe journey (but we only show sympathy for certain souls).
They are precisely the type I want by me.
Hard working, stamina, determination and people who do the right thing
Bringing millwall with those historic ties shoes me who you are
Ties shoes, and what will you be wearing "As Maggie once never said when they attack your grammer But at least you can be who you are with trump in the white house and Reform in the assendance, your time is coming! Remember gravity is also real, the higher you fly the harder you fall I just hope I'm still alive to see it | |||
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"If you find the reflection difficult to look at it's not the person holding the mirror you need to berat. Are souls now qualified? Can we feel sorry for Americans but not refugees? Berat? What's a city in Albania got to do with anything?? Blimey these people with no arguments love to pull people up on spelling or grammar Berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate, berate Ten times enough? Have I drummed into me now? Is my spelling mistake enough of a stick for you to beat me with because I'm pointing out an uncomfortable truth? You feign sorrow for dead souls in America but not living ones fleeing war and seeking sanctuary and dying along the way? Selective grief is very telling 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽" And it's even weirder grief for people they don't know!!! But only so long as Americans conjur up whiteness | |||
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"We must show solidarity with mango Mussolini and the dead - who can not feel and do not know But shove every brown, Spanish person in a plane in Guantanamo and reinstate the Rwanda policy, feel sorry for dead people but persecute black and brown living people " Just start your own thread, it's not hard. | |||
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"We must show solidarity with mango Mussolini and the dead - who can not feel and do not know But shove every brown, Spanish person in a plane in Guantanamo and reinstate the Rwanda policy, feel sorry for dead people but persecute black and brown living people Just start your own thread, it's not hard. " Indeed it isn't, but also conversation takes on a life of it's own. You can't predict or dictate which way a thread/conversation goes. If you don't like it stop commenting, if you like it engage I have chosen to show this person's blatant hypocrisy feigning sorrow for dead plane people but wishing harm to people who arrive in boats. People are people??? No? | |||
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"We must show solidarity with mango Mussolini and the dead - who can not feel and do not know But shove every brown, Spanish person in a plane in Guantanamo and reinstate the Rwanda policy, feel sorry for dead people but persecute black and brown living people Just start your own thread, it's not hard. Indeed it isn't, but also conversation takes on a life of it's own. You can't predict or dictate which way a thread/conversation goes. If you don't like it stop commenting, if you like it engage I have chosen to show this person's blatant hypocrisy feigning sorrow for dead plane people but wishing harm to people who arrive in boats. People are people??? No?" Whatever drugs you are taking.STOP! Your assumptions have now evolved into simple lies. Please provide a direct quote where I suggested this... | |||
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"Those souls you care about, just not the ones fleeing war or persecution. Are your thoughts reserved for dead, only? Or is that too qualified?" What an absolute dick u R saying that | |||
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"We must show solidarity with mango Mussolini and the dead - who can not feel and do not know But shove every brown, Spanish person in a plane in Guantanamo and reinstate the Rwanda policy, feel sorry for dead people but persecute black and brown living people Just start your own thread, it's not hard. Indeed it isn't, but also conversation takes on a life of it's own. You can't predict or dictate which way a thread/conversation goes. If you don't like it stop commenting, if you like it engage I have chosen to show this person's blatant hypocrisy feigning sorrow for dead plane people but wishing harm to people who arrive in boats. People are people??? No? Whatever drugs you are taking.STOP! Your assumptions have now evolved into simple lies. Please provide a direct quote where I suggested this..." Absolutely - immigrant hotels I urge every one to read it, and then read the same guy posting this drivel!!! It's clear he's been groomed to have sympathy for Americans but not people crossing the channel | |||
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"We must show solidarity with mango Mussolini and the dead - who can not feel and do not know But shove every brown, Spanish person in a plane in Guantanamo and reinstate the Rwanda policy, feel sorry for dead people but persecute black and brown living people Just start your own thread, it's not hard. Indeed it isn't, but also conversation takes on a life of it's own. You can't predict or dictate which way a thread/conversation goes. If you don't like it stop commenting, if you like it engage I have chosen to show this person's blatant hypocrisy feigning sorrow for dead plane people but wishing harm to people who arrive in boats. People are people??? No? Whatever drugs you are taking.STOP! Your assumptions have now evolved into simple lies. Please provide a direct quote where I suggested this... Absolutely - immigrant hotels I urge every one to read it, and then read the same guy posting this drivel!!! It's clear he's been groomed to have sympathy for Americans but not people crossing the channel " Where's the quote wishing harm on people? Back up your allegations. But you can't can you? Your agendas plus inaccurate assumptions do not add up to facts. Flipping your own argument... do you not have sympathy for the victims of the plane crash?? You're aware they weren't all Americans? | |||
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"We must show solidarity with mango Mussolini and the dead - who can not feel and do not know But shove every brown, Spanish person in a plane in Guantanamo and reinstate the Rwanda policy, feel sorry for dead people but persecute black and brown living people Just start your own thread, it's not hard. Indeed it isn't, but also conversation takes on a life of it's own. You can't predict or dictate which way a thread/conversation goes. If you don't like it stop commenting, if you like it engage I have chosen to show this person's blatant hypocrisy feigning sorrow for dead plane people but wishing harm to people who arrive in boats. People are people??? No? Whatever drugs you are taking.STOP! Your assumptions have now evolved into simple lies. Please provide a direct quote where I suggested this... Absolutely - immigrant hotels I urge every one to read it, and then read the same guy posting this drivel!!! It's clear he's been groomed to have sympathy for Americans but not people crossing the channel Where's the quote wishing harm on people? Back up your allegations. But you can't can you? Your agendas plus inaccurate assumptions do not add up to facts. Flipping your own argument... do you not have sympathy for the victims of the plane crash?? You're aware they weren't all Americans? " Could not give a fuck!!! People die, we all will!! It's the living we should care about!!! And again I will direct everyone to your disgusting immigrant hotel post | |||
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"We must show solidarity with mango Mussolini and the dead - who can not feel and do not know But shove every brown, Spanish person in a plane in Guantanamo and reinstate the Rwanda policy, feel sorry for dead people but persecute black and brown living people Just start your own thread, it's not hard. Indeed it isn't, but also conversation takes on a life of it's own. You can't predict or dictate which way a thread/conversation goes. If you don't like it stop commenting, if you like it engage I have chosen to show this person's blatant hypocrisy feigning sorrow for dead plane people but wishing harm to people who arrive in boats. People are people??? No? Whatever drugs you are taking.STOP! Your assumptions have now evolved into simple lies. Please provide a direct quote where I suggested this... Absolutely - immigrant hotels I urge every one to read it, and then read the same guy posting this drivel!!! It's clear he's been groomed to have sympathy for Americans but not people crossing the channel Where's the quote wishing harm on people? Back up your allegations. But you can't can you? Your agendas plus inaccurate assumptions do not add up to facts. Flipping your own argument... do you not have sympathy for the victims of the plane crash?? You're aware they weren't all Americans? Could not give a fuck!!! People die, we all will!! It's the living we should care about!!! And again I will direct everyone to your disgusting immigrant hotel post " Still no quote... but cray cray button activated and more vile ramblings | |||
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"Feel sorry for people that die on the inflatables, but they know the inherent high risks they are taking by sneaking across the channel illegally. I do feel more sorry for the people on the plane, who were taking a relatively safe form of transport and then from nowhere were killed in an avoidable accident. How people in here have come to compare the two is beyond me, they are completely different situations." Big dick energy just has his own agenda and is intent on pushing it with lies, wrong assumptions and vexatious allegations. When asked to back himself up he can't. He's just proving that he is just massive dick ... does what it says on the tin I guess | |||
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"Feel sorry for people that die on the inflatables, but they know the inherent high risks they are taking by sneaking across the channel illegally. I do feel more sorry for the people on the plane, who were taking a relatively safe form of transport and then from nowhere were killed in an avoidable accident. How people in here have come to compare the two is beyond me, they are completely different situations." See the logic in this but it isn't the dead you should feel sorry for - they don't know It's the family, so people dying in a plane in America worthy of our symbolisms but people dying to try and improve their selves and family not so??? | |||
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"Feel sorry for people that die on the inflatables, but they know the inherent high risks they are taking by sneaking across the channel illegally. I do feel more sorry for the people on the plane, who were taking a relatively safe form of transport and then from nowhere were killed in an avoidable accident. How people in here have come to compare the two is beyond me, they are completely different situations. Big dick energy just has his own agenda and is intent on pushing it with lies, wrong assumptions and vexatious allegations. When asked to back himself up he can't. He's just proving that he is just massive dick ... does what it says on the tin I guess" The energy from his dick has clearly addled his mind! | |||
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"Feel sorry for people that die on the inflatables, but they know the inherent high risks they are taking by sneaking across the channel illegally. I do feel more sorry for the people on the plane, who were taking a relatively safe form of transport and then from nowhere were killed in an avoidable accident. How people in here have come to compare the two is beyond me, they are completely different situations. Big dick energy just has his own agenda and is intent on pushing it with lies, wrong assumptions and vexatious allegations. When asked to back himself up he can't. He's just proving that he is just massive dick ... does what it says on the tin I guess" Spend time in a quiet room with yourself and reflect | |||
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"Feel sorry for people that die on the inflatables, but they know the inherent high risks they are taking by sneaking across the channel illegally. I do feel more sorry for the people on the plane, who were taking a relatively safe form of transport and then from nowhere were killed in an avoidable accident. How people in here have come to compare the two is beyond me, they are completely different situations. Big dick energy just has his own agenda and is intent on pushing it with lies, wrong assumptions and vexatious allegations. When asked to back himself up he can't. He's just proving that he is just massive dick ... does what it says on the tin I guess Spend time in a quiet room with yourself and reflect" Come on, stop deflecting. Back up.your allegations with direct quotes. Now. Or go away, troll | |||
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"Feel sorry for people that die on the inflatables, but they know the inherent high risks they are taking by sneaking across the channel illegally. I do feel more sorry for the people on the plane, who were taking a relatively safe form of transport and then from nowhere were killed in an avoidable accident. How people in here have come to compare the two is beyond me, they are completely different situations. Big dick energy just has his own agenda and is intent on pushing it with lies, wrong assumptions and vexatious allegations. When asked to back himself up he can't. He's just proving that he is just massive dick ... does what it says on the tin I guess Spend time in a quiet room with yourself and reflect Come on, stop deflecting. Back up.your allegations with direct quotes. Now. Or go away, troll" Please read "immigrant hotel" Authored by this person. If your comfortable with that post he's your guy, if not comfortable with lumping all people who seek refuge as scroungers. Avoid " | |||
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"Feel sorry for people that die on the inflatables, but they know the inherent high risks they are taking by sneaking across the channel illegally. I do feel more sorry for the people on the plane, who were taking a relatively safe form of transport and then from nowhere were killed in an avoidable accident. How people in here have come to compare the two is beyond me, they are completely different situations. Big dick energy just has his own agenda and is intent on pushing it with lies, wrong assumptions and vexatious allegations. When asked to back himself up he can't. He's just proving that he is just massive dick ... does what it says on the tin I guess Spend time in a quiet room with yourself and reflect Come on, stop deflecting. Back up.your allegations with direct quotes. Now. Or go away, troll Please read "immigrant hotel" Authored by this person. If your comfortable with that post he's your guy, if not comfortable with lumping all people who seek refuge as scroungers. Avoid "" That's not a quote. And I didn't say that. Ever. | |||
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"Such sad news coming from the States. Those poor souls may the rest in peace " To get this thread back on track! Yes indeed dreadful accident, at that height it would be the collisions and impact that ‘hopefully’ took the souls quickly, it would be awful but possible not all were instantly killed, the relatives don’t need the political posturing and point scoring to deal with too! | |||
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"How about feeling sorry for ourselves ? Living in this shithole of a country run by lunatics " We voted for it... | |||
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"Feel sorry for people that die on the inflatables, but they know the inherent high risks they are taking by sneaking across the channel illegally. I do feel more sorry for the people on the plane, who were taking a relatively safe form of transport and then from nowhere were killed in an avoidable accident. How people in here have come to compare the two is beyond me, they are completely different situations. Big dick energy just has his own agenda and is intent on pushing it with lies, wrong assumptions and vexatious allegations. When asked to back himself up he can't. He's just proving that he is just massive dick ... does what it says on the tin I guess Spend time in a quiet room with yourself and reflect Come on, stop deflecting. Back up.your allegations with direct quotes. Now. Or go away, troll Please read "immigrant hotel" Authored by this person. If your comfortable with that post he's your guy, if not comfortable with lumping all people who seek refuge as scroungers. Avoid "" And yet, Big Dick Zenergy, I recall your comments about disabled older people in the forum about scrapping bus passes,where you emerge as callow, callous and glib. | |||
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"Feel sorry for people that die on the inflatables, but they know the inherent high risks they are taking by sneaking across the channel illegally. I do feel more sorry for the people on the plane, who were taking a relatively safe form of transport and then from nowhere were killed in an avoidable accident. How people in here have come to compare the two is beyond me, they are completely different situations. Big dick energy just has his own agenda and is intent on pushing it with lies, wrong assumptions and vexatious allegations. When asked to back himself up he can't. He's just proving that he is just massive dick ... does what it says on the tin I guess Spend time in a quiet room with yourself and reflect Come on, stop deflecting. Back up.your allegations with direct quotes. Now. Or go away, troll Please read "immigrant hotel" Authored by this person. If your comfortable with that post he's your guy, if not comfortable with lumping all people who seek refuge as scroungers. Avoid " And yet, Big Dick Zenergy, I recall your comments about disabled older people in the forum about scrapping bus passes,where you emerge as callow, callous and glib. " Yes.... he's a total troll. To him, the elderly and disabled are fair game. As are dead people and Americans, apparently | |||
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"Yes indeed dreadful accident, at that height it would be the collisions and impact that ‘hopefully’ took the souls quickly, it would be awful but possible not all were instantly killed, the relatives don’t need the political posturing and point scoring to deal with too!" Sadly it was a relatively slow impact that did not totally disintigrated the plane's fuselage. From 300 feet It took only around 4 seconds for the debris to hit the water. Those not killed by the initial impact will have been plunged into the river alive. This was a very sad incident and anyone making fun of it should be ashamed of themselves.  | |||
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"Those souls you care about, just not the ones fleeing war or persecution. Are your thoughts reserved for dead, only? Or is that too qualified?" I was not aware that any of our neighboring countries, or those in its immediate vicinity had a war or persecution going on.... A GENUINE Refugee registers in "the first safe country", geographically we are at the end of the line.... That makes the dingy wallahs Economic Migrants, seeking a free ride having used all their considerable funds on transport.... The people on that American Airlines flight were minding their own business, scamming no one, when they died, yes I feel very sorry for their families and their souls.... | |||
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" I was not aware that any of our neighboring countries, or those in its immediate vicinity had a war or persecution going on.... A GENUINE Refugee registers in "the first safe country", geographically we are at the end of the line.... " That may well be your opinion but it does not reflect the position in law - someone seeking refugee status can make their claim in any one of the 140-odd countries that have adopted the UN Convention into their law. There is NO obligation to settle in the nearest safe country, so your argument that anyone who seeks refuge further afield must be an economic migrant is false. The reality is most do resettle in their nearest country. Some do not. 3 million have left Sudan, for example, because of the latest civil war and most are being housed in UN-funded camps in Chad and South Sudan. | |||
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"This guy is clearly getting his kicks by being a knob and winding people up. Just ignor and he will soon get bored and go away. He feeding off your reactions to his confrontational rants." Which prompts me to remark that I reported his vile comments about old and disabled people five months ago but they did nothing. | |||
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" I was not aware that any of our neighboring countries, or those in its immediate vicinity had a war or persecution going on.... A GENUINE Refugee registers in "the first safe country", geographically we are at the end of the line.... That may well be your opinion but it does not reflect the position in law - someone seeking refugee status can make their claim in any one of the 140-odd countries that have adopted the UN Convention into their law. There is NO obligation to settle in the nearest safe country, so your argument that anyone who seeks refuge further afield must be an economic migrant is false. The reality is most do resettle in their nearest country. Some do not. 3 million have left Sudan, for example, because of the latest civil war and most are being housed in UN-funded camps in Chad and South Sudan." ... genuine question sara. Why do so many people risk their lives crossing on dinghys from France where they are safe? | |||
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" ... genuine question sara. Why do so many people risk their lives crossing on dinghys from France where they are safe?" For the simple reason the UK refuses to create any sort of safe route for someone to apply for asylum in the UK. So they become vulnerable to those offering sea passages on the black market. The law states that to seek asylum in the UK, the person must: a) set foot on UK soil b) present themselves to the authorities | |||
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" ... genuine question sara. Why do so many people risk their lives crossing on dinghys from France where they are safe? For the simple reason the UK refuses to create any sort of safe route for someone to apply for asylum in the UK. So they become vulnerable to those offering sea passages on the black market. The law states that to seek asylum in the UK, the person must: a) set foot on UK soil b) present themselves to the authorities" Some might argue that once they choose to leave a safe country like France, risking their lives at sea, their argument for leaving their homeland to be safe kind of flies out of the window and gives the perception that there are reasons other than being safe and alive why people prefer the uk to France | |||
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" I was not aware that any of our neighboring countries, or those in its immediate vicinity had a war or persecution going on.... A GENUINE Refugee registers in "the first safe country", geographically we are at the end of the line.... That may well be your opinion but it does not reflect the position in law - someone seeking refugee status can make their claim in any one of the 140-odd countries that have adopted the UN Convention into their law. There is NO obligation to settle in the nearest safe country, so your argument that anyone who seeks refuge further afield must be an economic migrant is false. The reality is most do resettle in their nearest country. Some do not. 3 million have left Sudan, for example, because of the latest civil war and most are being housed in UN-funded camps in Chad and South Sudan." Agreed, but spending money on being trafficked and electing your refuge doesn't suggest persecution or desperation. An overarching concern is the combined effect of a strain on strained resources, and what we're already seeunf, which is Reform cunts recruiting on this issue. One feeds the other... | |||
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"Wasn't you who started immigrant hotel thens? Just certain souls.... right???? Hopes and prayers " What the f*** is the matter with you ? | |||
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"Someone seeking asylum can choose from any one of 140-odd countries in which to present themselves. Once they make a decision to leave their homeland, they need to reach the destination they have chosen to make their application. The black market in sea passages across the English Channel has been created by the refusal of successive UK governments to take up an offer from France of land for a claims office at Calais. " This is pure nonsense and you know it. They don't arrive with tickets and id. They could choose any country out of those 140 where their lives wouldn't be at risk in the channel. But many don't. | |||
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"Someone seeking asylum can choose from any one of 140-odd countries in which to present themselves. Once they make a decision to leave their homeland, they need to reach the destination they have chosen to make their application. The black market in sea passages across the English Channel has been created by the refusal of successive UK governments to take up an offer from France of land for a claims office at Calais. This is pure nonsense and you know it. They don't arrive with tickets and id. They could choose any country out of those 140 where their lives wouldn't be at risk in the channel. But many don't. " What is nonsense about it? Someone decides they want to make a new life for themselves in the UK. The only way to get to the UK is to clamber into a boat and cross the Channel. The UK Government could eliminate the black market in sea passages tomorrow, but chooses not to for domestic political reasons. | |||
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"Someone seeking asylum can choose from any one of 140-odd countries in which to present themselves. Once they make a decision to leave their homeland, they need to reach the destination they have chosen to make their application. The black market in sea passages across the English Channel has been created by the refusal of successive UK governments to take up an offer from France of land for a claims office at Calais. This is pure nonsense and you know it. They don't arrive with tickets and id. They could choose any country out of those 140 where their lives wouldn't be at risk in the channel. But many don't. What is nonsense about it? Someone decides they want to make a new life for themselves in the UK. The only way to get to the UK is to clamber into a boat and cross the Channel. The UK Government could eliminate the black market in sea passages tomorrow, but chooses not to for domestic political reasons." I will totally agree with you that government has been totally incompetent. But if I was fleeing war and persecution I'd go anywhere safe. Probably somewhere I didn't have to risk my life getting to. Otherwise I may as well stay and die at home. If I'm not emigrating for those reasons I'd do it legitimately with the required papers. | |||
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"You are asking, I think, what the "pull factors" are. Why someone would choose to make their claim in UK rather than, say, Spain or Greece. There is a huge amount of research on this. The findings are all pretty similar. The 3 biggest "pull factors" are: - relatives already in UK - language familiarity - cultural familiarity Those who think it is the "generosity" of the UK welfare state clearly have never experienced that "generosity". The provision here is no different from the provision in places like France or Italy." Yeah but join it up Sara. Supposedly a housing shortage. There isn't. There's a shortage and preposterous prices in the south cos that's where the economy is. It's a political issue. But that's where UK politics is so pressure there drives national politics. All public services reduced since we bailed out banks in 2008. All living costs risen since. Wealthy/ not wealthy gap increased exponentially. Climate of pressured ' middles' financing incomers? Ripe for exploitation by right- wing. Lastly - and this is important in a climate of international terrorism - we should know who comes here. Today's conditions reflect Europe in the 1930s. | |||
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"No doubt many of us have sympathies with those in constant peril, being forced to flee their homes and some having to gamble with crossing large expanses of water to try and survive, and being aware that this is constantly happening means that we feel a consistent sense of despair for them. What happened in Washington DC last night is also a very sad, but also very new tragedy, and it seems to me that the author of this thread chose to address it because of it having just taken place. That doesn't take away from how he may feel about the people I started this comment with, and it doesn't mean that he doesn't care about them. It's simply that the crash in DC is a new event involving loss of life that he wanted to speak about." | |||
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"30,000 people arriving in little boats aren't sinking Britain, they aren't depriving the rest of us of the investment needed in services etc. It's the people dodging their taxes and vested interests who are doing that. That isn't an answer. The political impact is potentially frightful isn't it? Even if just a handful were harmful in direct or indirect ways it will be capitalised to recruit an electorate scared by uncontrollable events and financial uncertainty. It can be seen coming. " In every group of people, there will be the good, the bad and the ugly. The same applies to the 1.2 million the Tories let move into the UK during their last year in office. | |||
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"30,000 people arriving in little boats aren't sinking Britain, they aren't depriving the rest of us of the investment needed in services etc. It's the people dodging their taxes and vested interests who are doing that. That isn't an answer. The political impact is potentially frightful isn't it? Even if just a handful were harmful in direct or indirect ways it will be capitalised to recruit an electorate scared by uncontrollable events and financial uncertainty. It can be seen coming. In every group of people, there will be the good, the bad and the ugly. The same applies to the 1.2 million the Tories let move into the UK during their last year in office. " Don't make me defend the Tories but I'll wager we knew who they were. And yes - I acknowledge that authorised routes allow wealthy undesirables, but they are't en mass. Whoever achieves citizenship needs to have come through authorised systems and their provenance needs to be authenticated. | |||
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" Whoever achieves citizenship needs to have come through authorised systems and their provenance needs to be authenticated. They're applying for refugee status, not citizenship. Refugee status gives someone the right to stay for 5 years. " I think you understand my point and are deflecting. But pedantry? Ok: In 2024 it was 37,000 not 30,000. Since 2018 it's 150,000. Who need homes, local government support, processing, health care. Against the backdrop of publuc funding cuts, decreased services, and a bias to right- wing media that leads a bewildered electorate by the nose. Don't tell us this can be smoothed away. It is a problem. | |||
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" Whoever achieves citizenship needs to have come through authorised systems and their provenance needs to be authenticated. They're applying for refugee status, not citizenship. Refugee status gives someone the right to stay for 5 years. I think you understand my point and are deflecting. But pedantry? Ok: In 2024 it was 37,000 not 30,000. Since 2018 it's 150,000. Who need homes, local government support, processing, health care. Against the backdrop of publuc funding cuts, decreased services, and a bias to right- wing media that leads a bewildered electorate by the nose. Don't tell us this can be smoothed away. It is a problem. " A very small fraction of the 1.2 million who moved here in the last year of the Tory Government. | |||
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"Surely you can see that this government are wasting too much money on illegal immigrants. Why can France house them in tents and we have to supply hotels. Why should my taxes be used to look after a bunch of scrounging twats. Please don’t tell me they are fleeing from wars, they are moving around Europe seeing what they can get for nothing. Unfortunately our government are soft and so they will continue to come until we stop paying for them. " Careful. One of those "scrounging twats" might be the proctologist seeing to your anal fissure one day.... | |||
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" Whoever achieves citizenship needs to have come through authorised systems and their provenance needs to be authenticated. They're applying for refugee status, not citizenship. Refugee status gives someone the right to stay for 5 years. I think you understand my point and are deflecting. But pedantry? Ok: In 2024 it was 37,000 not 30,000. Since 2018 it's 150,000. Who need homes, local government support, processing, health care. Against the backdrop of publuc funding cuts, decreased services, and a bias to right- wing media that leads a bewildered electorate by the nose. Don't tell us this can be smoothed away. It is a problem. A very small fraction of the 1.2 million who moved here in the last year of the Tory Government." I respect your nouse Sara but that ain't an answer. You're in a nice area of enlightened and affluent folk. Where things are tougher,things get shittier. You know what I'm saying. That needs to be avoided. And NOTHING should fuel Farage. He's genuinely dangerous. | |||
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" I respect your nouse Sara but that ain't an answer. You're in a nice area of enlightened and affluent folk. Where things are tougher,things get shittier. You know what I'm saying. That needs to be avoided. And NOTHING should fuel Farage. He's genuinely dangerous. " The reality is we need to import people because of labour shortages and shortages of particular skills, but that issue becomes clouded by populist rhetoric that creates hysteria about ANYONE coming here | |||
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" I respect your nouse Sara but that ain't an answer. You're in a nice area of enlightened and affluent folk. Where things are tougher,things get shittier. You know what I'm saying. That needs to be avoided. And NOTHING should fuel Farage. He's genuinely dangerous. The reality is we need to import people because of labour shortages and shortages of particular skills, but that issue becomes clouded by populist rhetoric that creates hysteria about ANYONE coming here" So what's your plan to override populist rhetoric? Y' know - the kind that sways elections? Like the stupid Brexit referendum? | |||
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" Who need homes, local government support, processing, health care. Against the backdrop of publuc funding cuts, decreased services, and a bias to right- wing media that leads a bewildered electorate by the nose. Don't tell us this can be smoothed away. It is a problem. Why are asylum seekers always seen as a problem? They might well be the builders needed to build those homes, the person power needed to restore services after 14 years of Tory chaos and corruption, they will be the health care workers that wipe bums and operate on brain tumours etc. All the time working and paying taxes to fund the boomers triple locked pensions and other stuff" .. and there you have it, ladies and gentlemen. Gen z has spoken. The future of the uk right there... pro people entering the UK illegally and anti the pensioners. Just like our current government | |||
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" So what's your plan to override populist rhetoric? Y' know - the kind that sways elections? Like the stupid Brexit referendum? I don't have a plan and neither do I need one. Someone volunteers for that job once every 5 years and I'm one of 76,000 people on the interview panel." And you disintegrate. I'm probably joining. I know. | |||
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" Who need homes, local government support, processing, health care. Against the backdrop of publuc funding cuts, decreased services, and a bias to right- wing media that leads a bewildered electorate by the nose. Don't tell us this can be smoothed away. It is a problem. Why are asylum seekers always seen as a problem? They might well be the builders needed to build those homes, the person power needed to restore services after 14 years of Tory chaos and corruption, they will be the health care workers that wipe bums and operate on brain tumours etc. All the time working and paying taxes to fund the boomers triple locked pensions and other stuff" They are not a problem. They are asylum seekers. And you're twenty - five: my income paid your child benefit healthcare and education. That's the fkn system. | |||
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"So death is qualified? People we like and people we don't? Sorrow for those suffering around the good/bad dead???? Because after all they are the ones who see your feign sympathy for people you've never met It seems the issue here is your terminology, what precisely do you mean by "qualified" please? Words have meaning look it up You deflecting from introspection Fair point, I can look up the meaning, but I rather suspect that you not answering the question means that you dont understand the meaning, hence making little to no sense. As regards introspection, I am sad if someone I like dies, I am not sad if someone I don't like dies. That's just normal and there's nothing wrong with that. The circumstances of death are a different matter and I think that is what you're getting at here. Not for other people's loss your loss, that's your qualification? Americans we like migrants we don't? You know there are black and brown Americans? Grooming??????? I see, that makes more sense now. In which case, to answer your question, yes, death is qualified, for all people. Sorted. Let's put this argument to bed now and leave the thread for it's intended purpose, for people to express their sorrow at the loss of those particular lives, regardless of qualification. Oh!! One of those Life and conversation and introspection is an ever evolving process You can't draw a line under it, make you feel good and move on!! Because you need to acknowledge and work on the reasons why you qualify certain deaths? Is that a good or bad thing? Does that sit comfortably with your soul? Will your family be happy to know he only liked Americans? When they read your obituary?" They were not all Americans that perished, some were foreign nationals, many from an international ice skating tournament! | |||
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