FabGuys.com forum: Thieves is after the poor again

By *ranford cruiser OP TV/TS
38 weeks ago

Heathrow

What joke she is

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By *ausagesMan
38 weeks ago

carlisle

"What joke she is"

But she’s not remotely funny

Rebecca Long Bailey (an MP I don’t like) touched upon chronic sick & disabled folk fearing losing PIP support & contemplating suicide

How on earth has it come to this?

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By *rTee69Man
38 weeks ago

I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement.

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement."

.....but let's conveniently forget about the cost of COVID to the country's finances....

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By *rTee69Man
38 weeks ago

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement.

.....but let's conveniently forget about the cost of COVID to the country's finances....

and the ridiculous sums spent on tory friends and donors for track & trace, PPE, etc.

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By *end over 4 uMan
38 weeks ago

Brecon

Tories had to sort out labours mess in 2008. When GB sold all our gold reserves etc . The famous letter saying there is no money left good luck

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By *ew trixTV/TS
38 weeks ago

doncaster

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement."
they allegedly inherited a 20 billion black hole , what the first thing you do when you’re finances are in trouble,, Oh yes Borrow more money and dug yourself deeper into debt

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By *reakazoidMan
38 weeks ago

Leeds

Well she has to pay the MPs pay rise

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By *orwdMan
38 weeks ago

Sheffield

There was massive fraud in furlough most of which will never be recovered.

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By *hino nealMan
38 weeks ago

neath

Rather than cut / freeze benefits, why not stop ALL payments to illegal immigrants, put them on a boat and return them to France, we don’t want the feckers

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

This thread isn't even worth commenting on, we've heard all the racist and anti left lies in the previous threads, and most of them from the same dozen or so folk.

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"This thread isn't even worth commenting on....

....and yet you did.....and added nothing of worth...

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement."

What a load of cack

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement.they allegedly inherited a 20 billion black hole , what the first thing you do when you’re finances are in trouble,, Oh yes Borrow more money and dug yourself deeper into debt "

That is an absolute farce its proven that there was no 22 billion black hole it was 9 billion,the rest went on huge pay rises to train drivers and the nhs/doctors

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

It's austerity, it's caused a downward spiral, once you cut everything by 40% the services they cut that provided unscene or felt benefits in society has a knock on effect and becomes ever more expensive to treat when they have to be treated.

Rather than spending the money early, sure start gave young and poor mothers help to raise well fed and gave attention to their young now we have stabbings and Robbins and no police and full prisons.

A minor ailment could be treated and people back in work quickly now they lounge on waiting lists worsening the ailment to the point where they can't work or pay taxes.

Same now foreign aid is being cut so hiv, ebola and mpox numbers will increase and the world will worsen.

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

Average London wage...£45k.....tube driver £70k...and want a 4 day week...hours reduced from 35 to 32....and priority access to cheap housing...

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By *laireKTV/TS
38 weeks ago

Manchester

I think a Musk robot will be about 30K dollars.

Do you think it can drive a train?

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"Average London wage...£45k.....tube driver £70k...and want a 4 day week...hours reduced from 35 to 32....and priority access to cheap housing...

You might want to watch how the trade union negotiate and then measure it against the art of the orange steal

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By *mbatmanMan
38 weeks ago

west end, southampton

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement.

.....but let's conveniently forget about the cost of COVID to the country's finances....

You mean the cost caused by decisions the tories made?

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

Borrowing to keep people alive is fine, because you don't have a country let alone an economy without them.

It's the state of the NHS, the housing, the councils, the police, the courts on and on die to austerity and now we continue that spiral.

Not even capitalism Central America did austerity like the UK

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By *adBod1986Man
38 weeks ago

Runcorn

"Tories had to sort out labours mess in 2008. When GB sold all our gold reserves etc . The famous letter saying there is no money left good luck"

This again! It's a running joke between incoming/departing governments! It was done before and surely will be again. But let's ignore that cus it suits the narrative that Labour can't run the economy.

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By *our-slaveMan
38 weeks ago

nottingham

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement.

.....but let's conveniently forget about the cost of COVID to the country's finances....

Just about every country in the world suffered from the effects of COVID. Financially, most seem to be recovering better than we are. The Tories and their Brexit have caused irreparable damage to the UK.

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"What joke she is"

TBF although forecasts show a 50% cut to 1% in 2025 every year after has been revised up and borrowing falling. Minimal granted but better than expected.

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement.

.....but let's conveniently forget about the cost of COVID to the country's finances....

Austerity

Seeing things as cost is wrong the government isn't a business it's investment to ensure that we have free and healthy lives.

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By *laireKTV/TS
38 weeks ago

Manchester

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement.

.....but let's conveniently forget about the cost of COVID to the country's finances....

Wasn't it the entire Parliament which voted on the Brexit deal agreed?

It wasn't good, but they all knew what they were voting on.

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

Someone is revising how febrile that period was.

Joe Cox?

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By *opcock58Man
38 weeks ago

Helston

I'm old enough to have lived through numerous labour governments and it's the same story every time. Nothing is ever their fault, excuses excuses until they nearly bankrupt the country.

They are lying. We know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, but still they keep lying to cover up the previous lies. Wish we had mid term election like the yanks.

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

Want to put some flesh on those lying bones?

Facts are different from opinions

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By *andomguy321Man
38 weeks ago

reading

It used to be cycles of Boom & Bust

This time - Weak & Wrecked

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"It used to be cycles of Boom & Bust

This time - Weak & Wrecked "

Agreed!!

Recession is part of a capitalist state!!

But now no body wants that and I can see the sense of it during 2008 financial crash and COVID, they truly were too big to fail.

But businesses being subsidised, farmers being subsidised, or wages roped up by the state. Bailing water or train companies out!!

No mate, buy back critical infrastructure and let the rest burn.

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

*topped

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By *ndrew40Man
38 weeks ago

hartlebury

Stop sending money abroad. We should not send a single penny abroad let’s look after our country first

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"Stop sending money abroad. We should not send a single penny abroad let’s look after our country first "

They've heard you we've stopped.

But don't come crying to the NHS when hiv, ebola, mpox or any other exotic diseases wash up on our shores!!

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By *avewill1Man
38 weeks ago

melksham

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement."
if only that was true

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By *avewill1Man
38 weeks ago

melksham

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement.

.....but let's conveniently forget about the cost of COVID to the country's finances....

and the ridiculous sums spent on tory friends and donors for track & trace, PPE, etc. "
. Which is false accusations

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement. if only that was true"

Whatever you smoke or whatever rock you hide under can you provide links?

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement.

.....but let's conveniently forget about the cost of COVID to the country's finances....

and the ridiculous sums spent on tory friends and donors for track & trace, PPE, etc. . Which is false accusations"

Baroness mone

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By *avewill1Man
38 weeks ago

melksham

"I'm old enough to have lived through numerous labour governments and it's the same story every time. Nothing is ever their fault, excuses excuses until they nearly bankrupt the country.

They are lying. We know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, but still they keep lying to cover up the previous lies. Wish we had mid term election like the yanks."
. Your absolutely right. Starmer will run this country back into the ground. Tories spend another ten years trying to recover the damage. Same old when thatcher took over

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

Can someone send a telegram to that smoking rock?

Yeah?

Tell him it's not 1979

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

...wreck it Ralf and fix it Felix....

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By *eepeter4Man
38 weeks ago

Bournemouth

"I'm old enough to have lived through numerous labour governments and it's the same story every time. Nothing is ever their fault, excuses excuses until they nearly bankrupt the country.

They are lying. We know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, but still they keep lying to cover up the previous lies. Wish we had mid term election like the yanks.. Your absolutely right. Starmer will run this country back into the ground. Tories spend another ten years trying to recover the damage. Same old when thatcher took over"
👎👎👎

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By *avewill1Man
38 weeks ago

melksham

"Can someone send a telegram to that smoking rock?

Yeah?

Tell him it's not 1979"
. History has a habit of repeating itself. And you lot better hope it does before the twits push us to far over the edge

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

Only a person who doesn't understand history would say that!

You study history to learn the signs, but it never repeats only rhymes.

I suggest we currently run a rhythm with 1934 to 1936

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By *ruemaleMan
38 weeks ago

Gedling

"I'm old enough to have lived through numerous labour governments and it's the same story every time. Nothing is ever their fault, excuses excuses until they nearly bankrupt the country.

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"I'm old enough to have lived through numerous labour governments and it's the same story every time. Nothing is ever their fault, excuses excuses until they nearly bankrupt the country.

Statistics aren't proving that at this moment though

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By *espectdueMan
38 weeks ago

Stratford-Upon-Avon

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement.

.....but let's conveniently forget about the cost of COVID to the country's finances....

Only if the tories stop saying Labour left no money after a worldwide banking crash.

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By *espectdueMan
38 weeks ago

Stratford-Upon-Avon

"Tories had to sort out labours mess in 2008. When GB sold all our gold reserves etc . The famous letter saying there is no money left good luck"

Caused by a worldwide banking crash, not labours fault.

We would have been in much deeper problems if it wasn't for Brown's actions.

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By *espectdueMan
38 weeks ago

Stratford-Upon-Avon

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement.

.....but let's conveniently forget about the cost of COVID to the country's finances....

Wasn't it the entire Parliament which voted on the Brexit deal agreed?

It wasn't good, but they all knew what they were voting on.

No, Boris closed parliament down so that they couldn't vote to get his deal through.

Although it wasn't actually a deal.

Well done to all the planks that voted for him.

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By *50xxxMan
38 weeks ago

Wolverhampton

"Average London wage...£45k.....tube driver £70k...and want a 4 day week...hours reduced from 35 to 32....and priority access to cheap housing...

Boycott the tube ....

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By *lim_sportyMan
38 weeks ago

stevenage

"Tories had to sort out labours mess in 2008. When GB sold all our gold reserves etc . The famous letter saying there is no money left good luck

Caused by a worldwide banking crash, not labours fault.

We would have been in much deeper problems if it wasn't for Brown's actions."

To be fair you are both correct. The 2008 crash wasn't browns fault and he did a good job of reducing the blow.

But he made a big mistake selling boe gold and moving to US dollars.

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

Lime bikes are good and woke

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By *ranford cruiser OP TV/TS
38 weeks ago

Heathrow

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement."
pmsl this lot have been spending money like it's going out of fashion and they given them selves a pay rise she tanked the economy

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement. pmsl this lot have been spending money like it's going out of fashion and they given them selves a pay rise she tanked the economy "

At some point , surely, reality encounters this

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By *evanianMan
38 weeks ago

Flintshire

"I'm old enough to have lived through numerous labour governments and it's the same story every time. Nothing is ever their fault, excuses excuses until they nearly bankrupt the country.

They are lying. We know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, but still they keep lying to cover up the previous lies. Wish we had mid term election like the yanks."

Having lived through five Labour governments, I'm dismayed to see the current administration repeating the very same economic mistakes. Their refusal to take responsibility and instead blame others or make excuses is not only frustrating but also erodes trust.

The Labour Party's track record on economic management is woefully inadequate, and it's time for a change. We need a government that's transparent, accountable, and prioritises the country's best interests.

Introducing mid-term elections, similar to those in the US, would provide a much-needed check on their power and ensure they're held accountable for their actions. This would help prevent the same economic mistakes from being made over and over.

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"What joke she is

But she’s not remotely funny

Rebecca Long Bailey (an MP I don’t like) touched upon chronic sick & disabled folk fearing losing PIP support & contemplating suicide

How on earth has it come to this?"
its the money spent on illegals and whats being sent to other countrys. Wake up uk full spineless runts sit an watch an whinge

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By *adBod1986Man
38 weeks ago

Runcorn

It was already tanked thanks to Liz the lettuce, and the pay rise was rexxommended by an independent body, not by MPs themselves (not that I think they deserve one, just stating the facts).

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By *espectdueMan
38 weeks ago

Stratford-Upon-Avon

"What joke she is

But she’s not remotely funny

Rebecca Long Bailey (an MP I don’t like) touched upon chronic sick & disabled folk fearing losing PIP support & contemplating suicide

How on earth has it come to this? its the money spent on illegals and whats being sent to other countrys. Wake up uk full spineless runts sit an watch an whinge"

Bingo! Full house on reform clap trap.

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"What joke she is

But she’s not remotely funny

Rebecca Long Bailey (an MP I don’t like) touched upon chronic sick & disabled folk fearing losing PIP support & contemplating suicide

How on earth has it come to this? its the money spent on illegals and whats being sent to other countrys. Wake up uk full spineless runts sit an watch an whinge"

Bridget philipson has her work cut out

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By *now manMan
38 weeks ago

near

"What joke she is

But she’s not remotely funny

Rebecca Long Bailey (an MP I don’t like) touched upon chronic sick & disabled folk fearing losing PIP support & contemplating suicide

How on earth has it come to this?"

Because they rather give the money we and our forefathers have paid into the system to the influx of foreigners

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

Lol!!! Another one who hates his country but understands nothing

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By *etterbiggerMan
38 weeks ago

Scunthorpe

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement.

.....but let's conveniently forget about the cost of COVID to the country's finances....

And Brexit. I thought the 350million a week saved that Johnson and Gove promised us would have paid for that by now. We should be in the black then. Shouldn't we

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"This thread isn't even worth commenting on, we've heard all the racist and anti left lies in the previous threads, and most of them from the same dozen or so folk."

All the something for nothing lefties now being shafted by one of their own.

It’s what happens when brain dead student politics gets confronted by the real world.

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"This thread isn't even worth commenting on, we've heard all the racist and anti left lies in the previous threads, and most of them from the same dozen or so folk.

All the something for nothing lefties now being shafted by one of their own.

It’s what happens when brain dead student politics gets confronted by the real world. "

All disabled people are lefties and getting shafted?

All old people lefties and getting shafted?

Or much needed "change"

I mean thinking is rare in 2025

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"This thread isn't even worth commenting on, we've heard all the racist and anti left lies in the previous threads, and most of them from the same dozen or so folk.

All the something for nothing lefties now being shafted by one of their own.

It’s what happens when brain dead student politics gets confronted by the real world.

All disabled people are lefties and getting shafted?

All old people lefties and getting shafted?

Or much needed "change"

I mean thinking is rare in 2025"

Exactly and i can see you are very confused.

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"This thread isn't even worth commenting on, we've heard all the racist and anti left lies in the previous threads, and most of them from the same dozen or so folk.

All the something for nothing lefties now being shafted by one of their own.

It’s what happens when brain dead student politics gets confronted by the real world.

All disabled people are lefties and getting shafted?

All old people lefties and getting shafted?

Or much needed "change"

I mean thinking is rare in 2025

Exactly and i can see you are very confused."

Indeed, if it's one thing about me, it's I don't know my own mind!!

But as a thought experiment. Elaborate

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By *uy near ArundelMan
38 weeks ago

Nr Arundel

All disabled people are lefties and getting shafted?

No, I got shafted last week. I don't know if he was leftie

All old people lefties and getting shafted?

No they like shafting me.

Or much needed "change"

I mean thinking is rare in 2025

Definitely. Practically non existent.

Xmuch lovex

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By *ocbigMan
38 weeks ago

Birmingham

"I'm old enough to have lived through numerous labour governments and it's the same story every time. Nothing is ever their fault, excuses excuses until they nearly bankrupt the country.

They are lying. We know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, but still they keep lying to cover up the previous lies. Wish we had mid term election like the yanks.

The system as we have it presently encourages short termism, this may be why Labour are acting as they are, get the bad stuff out of the way early, because within the next year or so, the focus will change to getting re elected .. focus on the ‘what have you done for me lately’ rather than long term. Mid terms might make that even more pronounced.

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By *ildwestheroMan
38 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells

All I could think of yesterday when the dozy bint was delivering her Spring Statement, was @ If a Tory chancellor had delivered this there would be a riot@

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By *ranford cruiser OP TV/TS
38 weeks ago

Heathrow

Why are labour shit at managing money and the tories are not not as as if labour Mps wen't privately educated

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

We seem to be forgetting the last 14 years

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

No the right wingers are loosing their mind because a women has managed the economy better then the last 14 years. That's the howl your hearing

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By *lackbootzMan
38 weeks ago

Hayes, Middx

"No the right wingers are loosing their mind because a women has managed the economy better then the last 14 years. That's the howl your hearing "

From Ipsos… “Rachel Reeves popularity declines: … Only 16% are positive, giving her the worst net rating since taking office…”

Awful lot of howling right-wingers… up to 84% of the country according to your logic…

Or perhaps it’s not a case of your simple sock puppet left is good and right is bad politics.

The woman has shown herself to be an over-promoted turkey and is not convincing anyone on either side of the political divide she is on top of the job.

Apart from you, it seems.

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By *ichey6Man
38 weeks ago

aberdeen

Indy2 please. The need for a clean break is so obvious.

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By *ig paul 321Man
38 weeks ago

Blackpool

This is a 1 tier goverment no way will they ever get in again.but they wont care cause they will all be millionaires.but they are going to have so much blood on there hands with people dying through.being cold.poverty.suicide.this goverment are as bad as the conservatives.starmer hates this country hes the new hitler.hopes people die so he can look after all the imagrents give them houses and money and make sure they are looked after while our own people suffer.love my country hate politicians.

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By *ichey6Man
38 weeks ago

aberdeen

The new Hitler.... C'mon be....um..... reasonable?

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By *eepeter4Man
38 weeks ago

Bournemouth

Question ❓ Can Restauranters, Shopkeeper and Publicans (Landlords ) refuse to serve anyone in Government (MPs etc)

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By *ichey6Man
38 weeks ago

aberdeen

"I think a Musk robot will be about 30K dollars.

Do you think it can drive a train?

...

Programmed to give a nazi salute when heading east?

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By *astersteve906Man
38 weeks ago

Near Lutterworth

Too many thieving c***s not working ripping the country off

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By *ildwestheroMan
38 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells

"No the right wingers are loosing their mind because a women has managed the economy better then the last 14 years. That's the howl your hearing "

Her sex/gender/whatever its called these days, has absolutely nothing to do with it. I'm sure there are plenty of ladies quite capable of handling the economy from all political hues. As for managing it better that is only in your Labour rose-tinted dream world. So far she has hit the pensioners, the disabled and the most vulnerable. Pushed even more small businesses to close or on the brink of closure. Plus caused the economy to stagnate.

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By *astersteve906Man
38 weeks ago

Near Lutterworth

"No the right wingers are loosing their mind because a women has managed the economy better then the last 14 years. That's the howl your hearing

When I got my first mortgage in 1985 Thatcher was PM, basic income tax was 30% and my mortgage interest rate was 14.5%, how things have changed

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"No the right wingers are loosing their mind because a women has managed the economy better then the last 14 years. That's the howl your hearing

Like a fish to water

Let her cut from the scroungers

Work if you can support if you can't

And yet here we arena bleeding heart liberal...... conservative

Pull the other one

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"No the right wingers are loosing their mind because a women has managed the economy better then the last 14 years. That's the howl your hearing

When I got my first mortgage in 1985 Thatcher was PM, basic income tax was 30% and my mortgage interest rate was 14.5%, how things have changed "

Again you omit you salary to purchase value

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By *ichey6Man
38 weeks ago

aberdeen

Follow the money to the chicanery re the departmental budgets in 23/first half of 24. Tory fan-boys should do some research.

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

I've said it once and I'll say it again. The howls you hear from them aging queens - is that a woman has made the economy work

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By *ichey6Man
38 weeks ago

aberdeen

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement.

.....but let's conveniently forget about the cost of COVID to the country's finances....

...

Ah the cost that has been conveniently overplayed time after time by tory fanboys.... What about the more recent chicanery from the likes of Jeremy Hunt?

Paul Johnson in The Times 5/8/24:

'It was not credible for Jeremy Hunt to claim that planned departmental budgets would hold'

Including the £6.4b black hole that emerged re the Home Office Departmental Budget.

Traps were clearly laid. Shamefully so.

'Yes the tories left Labour a mess to clear up'

Paul Johnson

In other words, the tories should be up to their necks in the blamegame...

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By *ichey6Man
38 weeks ago

aberdeen

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement. if only that was true"

...

Revisit the tory press, in the aftermath of the Labour Victory. Politicians and commentators were universal in their belief that mismanagement had taken place. Trusseconomics being the prime example.

Now the dust has settled, normal service has resumed in said circles. Tories are blameless;it's all Reeves fault.

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By *lue555Man
38 weeks ago

harrow

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement."

Funny the debt started going crazy under Blair & brown selling off half our gold close to all time low didn’t help either.

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By *eefandfurMan
38 weeks ago

Edinburgh

Time for D.O.G.E. Find out where all the money is actually going. Neither of the two choices we are given seem capable or willing to fix anything.

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

Those people who told you Brexit was great, then Boris, truss budget was the greatest every......those guyse,? People still believe them

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement.

Funny the debt started going crazy under Blair & brown selling off half our gold close to all time low didn’t help either. "

Except you lie

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"Time for D.O.G.E. Find out where all the money is actually going. Neither of the two choices we are given seem capable or willing to fix anything. "

Keep your eyes peeled, it's not going how you think

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By *lue555Man
38 weeks ago

harrow

I lied about what?

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"I lied about what?"

You who?

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By *lue555Man
38 weeks ago

harrow

You’re too dumb to talk too.

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"You’re too dumb to talk too. "

And yet

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By *ocbigMan
38 weeks ago

Birmingham

Since we are past the worst of the cold weather, has there been any analysis of how the changing of the winter fuel payment has impacted the elderly? Interested to see projected impact on deaths versus reality

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

Less of the fuckers will die

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By *over40Man
38 weeks ago

aberdeen

"I think a Musk robot will be about 30K dollars.

Do you think it can drive a train?

Won't the automated Nazi salutes interfere with train operations?

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By *over40Man
38 weeks ago

aberdeen

"Tories had to sort out labours mess in 2008. When GB sold all our gold reserves etc . The famous letter saying there is no money left good luck

It also ignore the petty detail that Western Govts were led by Gordon Brown to avert a global financial crisis after the Bank Crash

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By *ildwestheroMan
38 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells

"No the right wingers are loosing their mind because a women has managed the economy better then the last 14 years. That's the howl your hearing

Like a fish to water

Let her cut from the scroungers

Work if you can support if you can't

And yet here we arena bleeding heart liberal...... conservative

Pull the other one "

O silly me. Always thought you were a socialist as in the the Labour Party. Turns out you're a socialist as in National Socialist. Kill off the old buggers or send them to the workhouse. Same with the disabled. No doubt they can still hew coal from the coalface whilst sitting in a wheelchair. Wonder who will be next on your list of scroungers and undesirables? Gays perhaps? Noticed you made a scathing remark about 'old queens' in another one of your diatribes

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By *ichey6Man
38 weeks ago

aberdeen

The tories of course are renowned for looking after the poor....

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By *ary1066Man
38 weeks ago

Preston

"Tories had to sort out labours mess in 2008. When GB sold all our gold reserves etc . The famous letter saying there is no money left good luck

It also ignore the petty detail that Western Govts were led by Gordon Brown to avert a global financial crisis after the Bank Crash"

Would that be the leviathan of finance that handed British accounts over to Santander bank ? a Spanish bank in serious trouble at the time in its own country ,while letting British building societies go to the wall .

Cheers Gordon you complete prat

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By *ichey6Man
38 weeks ago

aberdeen

Re the response to the crash, the praise he received from those with much much greater expertise than any of us in this chamber will do for me.

Gordon's Freudian Slip at PMQ'S when he talked of 'saving the world' was a beaut.

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By *oxtrot1471Man
38 weeks ago

oxford

I'm working class I don't get benefits I just pay for them.

A lot of these people cheered when OAP's lost the winter fule allowance because "boomers are bad" are now going to lose their benefits, just goes to show because careful what you wish for

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By *andomguy321Man
38 weeks ago

reading

"CRISIS ... WHAT CRISIS?"

[Just repeat this ad nauseam until you actually start to believe it ... Never underestimate the power of creative denial]

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By *eepeter4Man
38 weeks ago

Bournemouth

Small businesses now need to get there own back by refusing to serve MPs are at least charge them double

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By *ildwestheroMan
38 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells

"The tories of course are renowned for looking after the poor...."

Not going to pretend they are/were perfect by any means but they looked after the poor as well as any other government

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By *149guyMan
38 weeks ago

West Norfolk

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement.

.....but let's conveniently forget about the cost of COVID to the country's finances....

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By *ocbigMan
38 weeks ago

Birmingham

"The tories of course are renowned for looking after the poor....

Not going to pretend they are/were perfect by any means but they looked after the poor as well as any other government"

Looked after the poor baronesses, the poor bloke down the pub who didn’t have a PPE business, the poor ferry company with no ferries, the poor non doms, Osborne helped the poor by beginning this austerity nonsense… but at least was honest about it, Cameron helped poor Faridge and UKIP…

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By *astersteve906Man
38 weeks ago

Near Lutterworth

The easiest way to increase income is to raise VAT and remove VAT free for business

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By *herover0512Man
38 weeks ago

Southampton

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement."

Lets not forget the eyewatering salaries and expenses these parasites get when they come into power and give themselves a payrise that is daylight robbery for ordinary people in this country

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By *ichey6Man
38 weeks ago

aberdeen

"The tories of course are renowned for looking after the poor....

Not going to pretend they are/were perfect by any means but they looked after the poor as well as any other government"

....

...

Rough sleepers....

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By *airythighs61Man
38 weeks ago

North Norfolk

So true ..at last someone with a bit of sense

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By *usan 749ukTV/TS
38 weeks ago

Bangor

"This thread isn't even worth commenting on, we've heard all the racist and anti left lies in the previous threads, and most of them from the same dozen or so folk."

I haven’t read any racist comments and the left and lies go hand in hand

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By *ocbigMan
38 weeks ago

Birmingham

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement.

Lets not forget the eyewatering salaries and expenses these parasites get when they come into power and give themselves a payrise that is daylight robbery for ordinary people in this country

Your point about expenses is a good one, I don’t get any ‘expenses’ but I still have to travel to work, feed myself when I get there, can’t get my power/swimming pool/duck house/ Kit Kat/ clothes/glasses paid for.

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By *ichey6Man
38 weeks ago

aberdeen

"This thread isn't even worth commenting on, we've heard all the racist and anti left lies in the previous threads, and most of them from the same dozen or so folk.

I haven’t read any racist comments and the left and lies go hand in hand "

...

Boris Johnson. The man who led the charming Arlene down a path.

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By *ildwestheroMan
38 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells

"The tories of course are renowned for looking after the poor....

Not going to pretend they are/were perfect by any means but they looked after the poor as well as any other government

....

...

Rough sleepers...."

There were rough sleepers throughout the Blair/Brown years. Doubt they've miraculously disappeared during the last eight months either.

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By *ildwestheroMan
38 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells

"The tories of course are renowned for looking after the poor....

Not going to pretend they are/were perfect by any means but they looked after the poor as well as any other government

Like I said they weren't perfect but your wondrous government is hardly helping the poor either. Probably creating more.

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By *ichey6Man
38 weeks ago

aberdeen

Obviously. The figures increased dramatically during austerity though.

I'm pleased you mentioned Gordon Brown. His mission as a politician was to lift people out of poverty and he had success in doing so.

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By *lexieMan
38 weeks ago

Just north of Southampton

"Stop sending money abroad. We should not send a single penny abroad let’s look after our country first "

lel, you can't do that... any politician that has climbed the greasy pole and got to be PM, wants to strut his stuff on world the stage and pretend they are Chuchill; that means short changing their own poor people while they make themselves look good bestowing it to foreign countries and dubious war zones!

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By *lexieMan
38 weeks ago

Just north of Southampton

"I'm old enough to have lived through numerous labour governments and it's the same story every time. Nothing is ever their fault, excuses excuses until they nearly bankrupt the country.

They are lying. We know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, but still they keep lying to cover up the previous lies. Wish we had mid term election like the yanks.

...and just where is this alternative life and country saving government coming from? Who are they? Put a name to your fantasy wish list...

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By *lexieMan
38 weeks ago

Just north of Southampton

"No the right wingers are loosing their mind because a women has managed the economy better then the last 14 years. That's the howl your hearing

You're right... but isn't that what tories do! What we need is a government in power with genuine Labour principles...

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By *lexieMan
38 weeks ago

Just north of Southampton

"I've said it once and I'll say it again. The howls you hear from them aging queens - is that a woman has made the economy work "

Oh, Where's that then?

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By *evanianMan
38 weeks ago

Flintshire

"I'm old enough to have lived through numerous labour governments and it's the same story every time. Nothing is ever their fault, excuses excuses until they nearly bankrupt the country.

They are lying. We know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, but still they keep lying to cover up the previous lies. Wish we had mid term election like the yanks.

...and just where is this alternative life and country saving government coming from? Who are they? Put a name to your fantasy wish list..."

The qualities I mentioned – transparency, accountability, and prioritising the country's best interests – are fundamental to good governance, yet they seem to be in short supply in UK politics.

There's a growing concern about the lack of transparency and accountability in government. This can lead to a culture of blame-shifting rather than constructive criticism.

We need a government that's open, honest, and truly accountable to the people.

Contrary to what you are inferring, this isn't a fantasy wish list; it's all about recognising the need for meaningful change and working towards a better, more responsive government.

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By *ildwestheroMan
38 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells

" Wish we had mid term election like the yanks.

Unless we change the constitution and have a directly elected prime minister and cabinet we cannot have mid term elections. Suppose we could have a general election every two years which would probably lead to constant changes of government with no long term strategies and probably even more apathy amongst voters.

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By *ildwestheroMan
38 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells

"Obviously. The figures increased dramatically during austerity though.

I'm pleased you mentioned Gordon Brown. His mission as a politician was to lift people out of poverty and he had success in doing so.

It may well have been his intention as indeed it is of many politicians, from all parties, who are not just in it for their self glory. Sadly dear old Boom 'n Bust Brown failed.

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By *laireKTV/TS
38 weeks ago

Manchester

Brown borrowed using pfi.

Criminal in my view

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By *m3232Man
38 weeks ago

maidenhead

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement."

Rubbish they have given away more than they are trying to save

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

"Brown borrowed using pfi.

Criminal in my view"

But it was such a good idea....get private money to build schools and hospitals out of high quality materials and have well funded fixed contracts in order to maintain these buildings to a high standard and a rapid resolution if faults or repairs are needed.....what could possibly go wrong...

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By *vmarisaTV/TS
38 weeks ago

Motherwell

At least John Major got to shag Edwina Currie .. allegedly (I can't be arsed looking it up for accuracy) and I found neither party attractive in the least.

Mx 👿

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By *ocbigMan
38 weeks ago

Birmingham

"Brown borrowed using pfi.

Criminal in my view

I know… who could have foreseen that profit hungry private companies would use the contracts to do little, get a lot and get to keep the train set.

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By *evanianMan
38 weeks ago

Flintshire

" Wish we had mid term election like the yanks.

I agree _ildwesthero, the UK's electoral and constitutional systems are outdated, complex, and unfair. They disenfranchise certain groups and lack representation. It's time for reform. The Electoral Reform Society urges updating our systems to restore faith in politics and better serve modern UK

The current system is built on 19th-century infrastructure, and issues like photo ID requirements have already turned away over 40,000 voters. The UK also has a totally unelected second chamber and a binary voting system, which is unusual among advanced democracies.

To address these problems, reforms like automatic voter registration, standardised electoral law, and more flexible voting options are needed. Moving towards proportional representation would also help ensure a more representative system.

A reformed second chamber should be an elected body comprising experienced individuals from diverse backgrounds, including parliamentarians, lawyers, academics, civil society representatives, and business leaders. This would provide a robust revising chamber to scrutinise laws and keep the lower chamber in check.

Furthermore, the Palace of Westminster building itself where MPs work, is outdated and no longer fit for purpose. MPs often have to work in corridors due to lack of office space, which is inconvenient and a security risk. A new, purpose-built Parliament in a central UK green-field location would provide modern, accessible, and sustainable spaces for MPs to work and engage with the public.

Although a new Parliament building would be hugely expensive, it would be a modern and long-term investment in the country's democracy and future.

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38 weeks ago

Somewhere central to all the parliamentary constuancies with a good road and railway connection...HS2.. Birmingham area would be good, plenty of brown and green field places to build...

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By *eterpiperMan
38 weeks ago

fife

To many migrants getting in , that's why welfare bill is increasing , most don't work or do anything beneficial but take the benefits,

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By *evanianMan
38 weeks ago

Flintshire

"Somewhere central to all the parliamentary constuancies with a good road and railway connection...HS2.. Birmingham area would be good, plenty of brown and green field places to build...

Thanks Chloe, although Lancashire and Yorkshire are actually geographically considered to be central UK locations, moreso than the English Midlands, making them potential sites for a new parliament building.

Locating a new Parliament building in the north could bring economic benefits to the region, create jobs and stimulate local growth, and help rebalance the UK economy by moving the highlights and wealth away from London and the south east.

Possible locations would include Preston, Leeds and Bradford. These cities offer good transportation links, strong economies and cultural significance, making them viable options for a new Parliament building.

I doubt whether we will ever see such progress on our lifetimes to be honest, but I do think it is what is required to overhaul and improve the archaic system which is totally inadequate for a modern, forward thinking country.

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38 weeks ago

I'm sure I read somewhere the geographical centre is Dunsop bridge ...a half hour drive from here...anyhoo...the palace of Westminster is falling down...soft stonework...lots of expensive problems found in surveys....only the Elizabeth tower looks spick and span....but it took time and lots of money...the cost of repairs would easily pay for a new political base....with the lessons learnt from the building of the Scottish holyrood parliament the budgeted spend would be under better scrutiny...

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By *ravyMan
38 weeks ago

stockton

…with the lessons learnt from the building of the Scottish holyrood parliament the budgeted spend would be under better scrutiny...

Somehow I doubt that!

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By *evanianMan
38 weeks ago

Flintshire

"I'm sure I read somewhere the geographical centre is Dunsop bridge ...a half hour drive from here...anyhoo...the palace of Westminster is falling down...soft stonework...lots of expensive problems found in surveys....only the Elizabeth tower looks spick and span....but it took time and lots of money...the cost of repairs would easily pay for a new political base....with the lessons learnt from the building of the Scottish holyrood parliament the budgeted spend would be under better scrutiny...

Dunsop Bridge is often referred to as the geographic centre of Great Britain, although to be precise the exact point is actually located 4.5 miles north of the village.

However, it's worth noting that Dunsop Bridge is situated within the beautiful Forest of Bowland, an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty. This makes it an unlikely and unsuitable candidate for a new Parliament building, as it's essential to preserve and protect such sensitive environments.

That being said, Lancashire and Yorkshire do offer alternative locations that could be well-suited for a new Parliament building. Cities such as Preston, Leeds, or Bradford could provide a more central and accessible location, while also offering opportunities for urban regeneration and economic growth, they also have sufficient communication links too.

Given the significant repair costs facing the Palace of Westminster, it's certainly worth exploring options for a new Parliament building.

By learning from the experiences of the Scottish Parliament building project at Holyrood, we could create a modern, efficient, and cost-effective facility that would adequately serve theneeds of our democracy far into the future.

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By *opcock58Man
38 weeks ago

Helston

Dunsop Bridge is often referred to as the geographic centre of Great Britain, although to be precise the exact point is actually located 4.5 miles north of the village.

Given the significant repair costs facing the Palace of Westminster, it's certainly worth exploring options for a new Parliament building.

Assuming for one moment that parliament did re locate what would you suggest they do with their current home? Let it fall into the Thames? No! So as a very historic building it will need repairs anyway. So why move?

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By *ary1066Man
38 weeks ago

Preston

Since Angela and starmer has insisted that every county has to accept a devolution deal surely there will be many historic county council buildings that will be made redundant.

You can’t demolish so get some use while Westminster gets refurbished .

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By *evanianMan
38 weeks ago

Flintshire

"Assuming for one moment that parliament did re locate what would you suggest they do with their current home? Let it fall into the Thames? No! So as a very historic building it will need repairs anyway. So why move?"

Relocating Parliament to a new, modern facility doesn't necessarily mean abandoning the historic Palace of Westminster. The current building's repair costs are indeed staggering, and its 19th-century design is no longer suitable for a modern, progressive country.

A new Parliament building could incorporate reforms to the constitutional and electoral systems, making it more efficient, accessible, and cost-effective. This approach would also allow for the preservation of the Palace of Westminster's history and cultural significance, potentially repurposing it as a museum, heritage centre, or even a new home for the Supreme Court.

Interestingly, the Palace of Westminster has been the seat of the UK Parliament since the 13th century, and its design has influenced the development of parliamentary systems in other countries.

Relocating Parliament might be a long shot, but it's an intriguing idea to consider for the future.

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By *evanianMan
38 weeks ago

Flintshire

"Since Angela and starmer has insisted that every county has to accept a devolution deal surely there will be many historic county council buildings that will be made redundant.

You can’t demolish so get some use while Westminster gets refurbished .

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The UK's size means devolved parliaments are unnecessary and costly. County councils can handle local affairs, so a single central government can focus on national matters.

Streamlining government in this way would reduce costs, simplify decision-making, and eliminate confusion caused by multiple layers of government.

England's existing arrangement, where it's governed directly by the UK Parliament, demonstrates that this approach can work effectively.

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By *ildwestheroMan
38 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells

In the late '60s/early '70s there was a suggestion of building a new purpose built Houses of Parliament somewhere in the region of Windsor. Never got beyond the 'fanciful' stage. Probably would make sense especially since the Commons chamber cannot accommodate all MPs as it is. Obviously the existing Palace of Westminster would still exist and would have to still be restored as it is such an iconic building even if no longer really fit for 21st century parliamentary usage.

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By (user no longer on site)
38 weeks ago

You could give it to the Muslim council...they could have a call to prayer from the Elizabeth tower...

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By *lexieMan
38 weeks ago

Just north of Southampton

"Somewhere central to all the parliamentary constuancies with a good road and railway connection...HS2.. Birmingham area would be good, plenty of brown and green field places to build...

Birmingham can't even collect its bins let alone run a country... Perhaps your right though... the UK and Birmingham probably deserve each other!

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By *lexieMan
38 weeks ago

Just north of Southampton

Dunsop Bridge is often referred to as the geographic centre of Great Britain, although to be precise the exact point is actually located 4.5 miles north of the village.

Given the significant repair costs facing the Palace of Westminster, it's certainly worth exploring options for a new Parliament building.

We have enough sewage in the Thames as it is... and you want to add more!

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By *evanianMan
38 weeks ago

Flintshire

"In the late '60s/early '70s there was a suggestion of building a new purpose built Houses of Parliament somewhere in the region of Windsor. Never got beyond the 'fanciful' stage. Probably would make sense especially since the Commons chamber cannot accommodate all MPs as it is. Obviously the existing Palace of Westminster would still exist and would have to still be restored as it is such an iconic building even if no longer really fit for 21st century parliamentary usage."

I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiments expressed _ildwesthero!

The idea of building a new, purpose-built Parliament is indeed intriguing, especially considering the current limitations of the Commons chamber. It's fascinating to note that this concept was first floated in the late '60s and early '70s, albeit in the Windsor region.

The existing Palace of Westminster is an iconic building that warrants preservation and restoration, regardless of its suitability for modern parliamentary needs. A new building could provide a more functional and efficient space for MPs to conduct their duties.

Other countries have successfully navigated similar challenges. For instance, India recently inaugurated a new Parliament building in New Delhi, which boasts a seating capacity of 1,272 members and incorporates various sustainable design elements.

It's particularly noteworthy that the UK, often referred to as the "Mother of Parliaments," has played a significant role in introducing the concept of parliamentary constitution to many parts of the world. It's ironic that countries like India, which have adopted and modernised this concept, are now ahead of the UK in terms of parliamentary infrastructure.

Perhaps it's time for the UK to reconsider the idea of a new Parliament building, one that blends tradition with modernity and provides a fitting space for the country's lawmakers. This could also involve exploring alternative locations or temporary solutions, such as relocating to other parts of the UK or utilising innovative, sustainable designs.

Sadly, I don't think we will see it in our lifetimes, but hopefully future generations will! 😊

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By *ildwestheroMan
38 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells

I might add to the suggestion that a new 21st century state-of-the-art parliament building could be constructed, the existing Palace of Westminster would continue as a tourist attraction and, of course, still be used for state events and ceremonies such as the state opening of parliament.

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38 weeks ago

"No the right wingers are loosing their mind because a women has managed the economy better then the last 14 years. That's the howl your hearing

Like a fish to water

Let her cut from the scroungers

Work if you can support if you can't

And yet here we arena bleeding heart liberal...... conservative

Pull the other one

When they accuse the left of snowflakery but seem to be triggered by words????

Free speech for me but not for thee??

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By *ookingFor...Man
38 weeks ago

West Sussex

Middle-class socialism at its very best.

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By *evanianMan
38 weeks ago

Flintshire

"I might add to the suggestion that a new 21st century state-of-the-art parliament building could be constructed, the existing Palace of Westminster would continue as a tourist attraction and, of course, still be used for state events and ceremonies such as the state opening of parliament."

I think that's a sensible and practical idea, as it would allow for a modern and efficient parliamentary building, equipped with the latest technology and facilities, to support the work of parliamentarians and staff, while still preserving the historical significance and cultural importance of the Palace of Westminster, which could then be maintained and showcased as a vital part of the country's heritage, and continue to be used for ceremonial and symbolic events, such as the state opening of parliament, and other high-profile occasions.

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By *ichey6Man
38 weeks ago

aberdeen

"Middle-class socialism at its very best.

....

Assumptions re class.... Lazy thinking?

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By *ildwestheroMan
38 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells

Let her cut from the scroungers

Work if you can support if you can't

And yet here we arena bleeding heart liberal...... conservative

Pull the other one

When they accuse the left of snowflakery but seem to be triggered by words????

Free speech for me but not for thee??"

Hilarious. Or at least it would be if anyone could make any sense of what you say. Of course you are entitled to free speech. I definitely would not deny you that even though I reckon you might try to deny me. My point is that one minute you claim to be a bit supporter of this government and claim to have a social conscience. Yet the next minute you are condemning pensioners and the unemployed and disabled and claiming they are all scroungers. Are you sure Mr Farage isn't your secret hero?

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By *ookingFor...Man
38 weeks ago

West Sussex

"Middle-class socialism at its very best.

....

Assumptions re class.... Lazy thinking?"

No, I don't think so.

I didn't change. The Labour did.

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By *ookingFor...Man
38 weeks ago

West Sussex

*The Labour Party.

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By *ichey6Man
38 weeks ago

aberdeen

Society changed.

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By *ichey6Man
38 weeks ago

aberdeen

Re the assumption, was it not directed at an individual poster?

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By *ausagesMan
35 weeks ago

carlisle

Does anyone else think that some (not all) leading Labour women MPs sound so angry when they’re interviewed

Rachel Reeves is robotic - a dalek

Ellie Reeves (Rachel’s sister)

Angela Rayner- fishwife

Lucy Powell -

growls

Liz Kendall - monstrous

Emily Thornberry - snobby scathing

I quite like Lisa Nandy & Yvette Cooper who are pretty rational when being interviewed but the others aforementioned I find truly gross especially Reeves who makes me swear as much as Maggie Thatcher - by the way Starmer makes me swear too

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By *ausagesMan
35 weeks ago

carlisle

"*The Labour Party. "

Now so right wing they’re outdoing the Conservatives & Hitlers Nazis

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By *oaq2Man
35 weeks ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement."

It doesn't matter which party is in. They are all cunts.

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By *espectdueMan
35 weeks ago

Stratford-Upon-Avon

"Tories had to sort out labours mess in 2008. When GB sold all our gold reserves etc . The famous letter saying there is no money left good luck"

If we forget the world wide crash that affected the entire western world.

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By *espectdueMan
35 weeks ago

Stratford-Upon-Avon

That could actually work, especially if it had apartments for them all to live in so that they couldn't then claim for second houses etc.

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By *antsMeetsMan
35 weeks ago

uxbridge

I spoke to a pensioners in his 80s last week, he hasn't been able to keep warm since Labour took away his heating benefits. He even wrote to a Labour councillor pleading his case and basically got told to man, buy a jacket as his benefits are needed to home immigrants now. Sad times.

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By *auraTV/TS
35 weeks ago

Rugby

"Rather than cut / freeze benefits, why not stop ALL payments to illegal immigrants, put them on a boat and return them to France, we don’t want the feckers"
won't happen they are the future liebour voters.

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By *imrobMan
35 weeks ago

leeds

Cool story bro

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By *over40Man
35 weeks ago

aberdeen

"I'm old enough to have lived through numerous labour governments and it's the same story every time. Nothing is ever their fault, excuses excuses until they nearly bankrupt the country.

They are lying. We know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, but still they keep lying to cover up the previous lies. Wish we had mid term election like the yanks."

Needless to say your news sources have been constant over this period?

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By *over40Man
35 weeks ago

aberdeen

"Tories had to sort out labours mess in 2008. When GB sold all our gold reserves etc . The famous letter saying there is no money left good luck

If we forget the world wide crash that affected the entire western world."

Let's also ignore the petty detail that leading economies turned to Gordon Brown to get the world economy turning again

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By *over40Man
35 weeks ago

aberdeen

"*The Labour Party.

Now so right wing they’re outdoing the Conservatives & Hitlers Nazis "

Tell me Sausages where do you get these ideas from?

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By *rojan horseMan
35 weeks ago

hull

Kick Prince Andrew out of his house and use that for a Parliament building, he doesn’t need a house that big for him and Fergie

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By *fcdTV/TS
35 weeks ago

Southend

"Tories had to sort out labours mess in 2008. When GB sold all our gold reserves etc . The famous letter saying there is no money left good luck"
What Labour mess was that? Are you suggesting the global crash was their fault? As for gold reserves, it was an all time low, most countries were offloading it, we were hardly unique. I won’t dignify the last point with comment.

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By *avewill1Man
35 weeks ago

melksham

"I guess its the thankless task of somehow having to recoup the country's finances after 14 years of tory mismanagement."
. Stop using the Tories as an excuse.Persecuting the elderly, the disabled and the chronically sick is not normal. Feeding this money to the unions, and to finance record illegal immigrants is even more pitiful. The wealthy in this country are leaving at an alarming rate. Businesses are closing. Is bringing this country to a low level not seen since the war. Sooner or later she will have to increase taxes. Then we can here your support then

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By *fcdTV/TS
35 weeks ago

Southend

"Tories had to sort out labours mess in 2008. When GB sold all our gold reserves etc . The famous letter saying there is no money left good luck

If we forget the world wide crash that affected the entire western world.

Let's also ignore the petty detail that leading economies turned to Gordon Brown to get the world economy turning again"
Exactly. We [uk) were roundly praised for quickly realising the situation and pulling together an international task force to put a plan in place.

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By *avewill1Man
35 weeks ago

melksham

"Tories had to sort out labours mess in 2008. When GB sold all our gold reserves etc . The famous letter saying there is no money left good luck

If we forget the world wide crash that affected the entire western world."
. Like you forgetting the worldwide oil crisis, or the worldwide pandemic, or the world wide Suez crisis. Your usual selective memory. Labour brought us to such a low level that when the crash came we were in such a devastating position following it. Hence Tories bailing the country out again.

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By *avewill1Man
35 weeks ago

melksham

"Tories had to sort out labours mess in 2008. When GB sold all our gold reserves etc . The famous letter saying there is no money left good luck

If we forget the world wide crash that affected the entire western world.

Let's also ignore the petty detail that leading economies turned to Gordon Brown to get the world economy turning again"

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By *outhbound1000Man
35 weeks ago

Newbridge

It’s not just come to this. It’s been going on for years. It all started with IDS. Numerous people committed suicide when they brought in pip assessments

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By *ookingFor...Man
35 weeks ago

West Sussex

If you voted Labour, you're part of the problem.

I hope you get the help you clearly desperately need.

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By *ary1066Man
35 weeks ago

Preston

"Tories had to sort out labours mess in 2008. When GB sold all our gold reserves etc . The famous letter saying there is no money left good luck

If we forget the world wide crash that affected the entire western world.

Let's also ignore the petty detail that leading economies turned to Gordon Brown to get the world economy turning againExactly. We [uk) were roundly praised for quickly realising the situation and pulling together an international task force to put a plan in place."
Handing British customers accounts from what the fiscal colossus brown said where failing building societies to Santander a bank that was at the time close to collapse in Spain, total bloody neep

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