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By *im125 OP   Man
2 weeks ago

Perth

Very interesting!! Westminster Govt are stepping in to save Scunthorpe blast furnaces and hopefully nationalizing it. Removing the Chinese. I mean who the fuck even allows such a British industry to be owned by the bloody Chinese??

Apparently (according to our oriental friends)losing £700,000 a day!!I

Now then what about maybe nationalising Grangemouth refinery losing £350,000 a day (allegedly) or does that not matter because it's jobs in Scotland??

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By *oringblokeMan
2 weeks ago

Holyhead


"Very interesting!! Westminster Govt are stepping in to save Scunthorpe blast furnaces and hopefully nationalizing it. Removing the Chinese. I mean who the fuck even allows such a British industry to be owned by the bloody Chinese??

Apparently (according to our oriental friends)losing £700,000 a day!!I

Now then what about maybe nationalising Grangemouth refinery losing £350,000 a day (allegedly) or does that not matter because it's jobs in Scotland??"

Jobs at any price?

We will have to see.

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By *igDickEnergyMan
2 weeks ago

cardiff

Not about jobs or profits, a country that can't produce steel can't defend itself.

It's about being safe and staying relevant

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By *0yguyMan
2 weeks ago

Cumberland


"Not about jobs or profits, a country that can't produce steel can't defend itself.

It's about being safe and staying relevant "

A country that can’t refine oil can’t defend itself either.

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By *im125 OP   Man
2 weeks ago

Perth


"Very interesting!! Westminster Govt are stepping in to save Scunthorpe blast furnaces and hopefully nationalizing it. Removing the Chinese. I mean who the fuck even allows such a British industry to be owned by the bloody Chinese??

Apparently (according to our oriental friends)losing £700,000 a day!!I

Now then what about maybe nationalising Grangemouth refinery losing £350,000 a day (allegedly) or does that not matter because it's jobs in Scotland??

Jobs at any price?

We will have to see. "

It's not at any price, it's keeping hard working guys in work, giving them pride,letting them provide for family and giving them a reason to get up in the morning. Think, seriously about the money squandered on shit by governments (like HS2, like housing immigrants, like a hundred other "projects" . Ffs Socialist Government????

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By *igDickEnergyMan
2 weeks ago

cardiff

What's your point?

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By *igDickEnergyMan
2 weeks ago

cardiff


"Not about jobs or profits, a country that can't produce steel can't defend itself.

It's about being safe and staying relevant

A country that can’t refine oil can’t defend itself either."

What's your point? Who's closing oil refineries?

Oil isn't owned by the government it's floated on the market and bought by the highest bidder no matter where it's found.

We also have enough oil in barrels to last humanity but if we switch off the taps it becomes a luxury product.

Your comparing apples with melons

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By *im125 OP   Man
2 weeks ago

Perth


"Not about jobs or profits, a country that can't produce steel can't defend itself.

It's about being safe and staying relevant

A country that can’t refine oil can’t defend itself either.

What's your point? Who's closing oil refineries?

Oil isn't owned by the government it's floated on the market and bought by the highest bidder no matter where it's found.

We also have enough oil in barrels to last humanity but if we switch off the taps it becomes a luxury product.

Your comparing apples with melons "

I'm not disputing who owns the oil I'm talking about processng it!! Don't you get that?

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By *oringblokeMan
2 weeks ago

Holyhead


"Not about jobs or profits, a country that can't produce steel can't defend itself.

It's about being safe and staying relevant "

Very True, but unless we bring back many if not all the infrastructure that was privatised back in the day we are screwed anyway as most of the UK is owned by overseas companies/governments.

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By *igDickEnergyMan
2 weeks ago

cardiff

No arguments from me there, foreign governments don't have our national interest at heart.

We haven't built a damn since 1992 our population has exploded. And paying through our noses for Chinese and Canadian pensioners to live.

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By *ara JevoTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Bristol East

Some industries need to be in public ownership. The Tories should never have sold them off.

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By *akemeMan
2 weeks ago

ayrshire

Who owns steel certainly not UK so don't talk shite 95 % of oil comes from Scotland we normally have fuck all refineries and England has six go figure

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By *tagman6930Man
2 weeks ago

SW London


"I mean who the fuck even allows such a British industry to be owned by the bloody Chinese??"

That would have been the Selfservatives.

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By *im125 OP   Man
2 weeks ago

Perth


"Who owns steel certainly not UK so don't talk shite 95 % of oil comes from Scotland we normally have fuck all refineries and England has six go figure"

Could you come back on here tomorrow minus the vodka and rephrase your comment please ?

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By *elly10000TV/TS
2 weeks ago

Leeds/Fuengirola

Good luck to the workers. A unionised shop able to nudge government like the rail and transport unions. There are national security reasons for keeping a steel industry in the UK. Government just needs to decide how much that is worth.

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By *itherneitherTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Burnham on sea

So the Liberal elite have been instructed to actually like war and some bod has informed them that to actually fight wars you need industrial capacity and above all you need steel.

Funny how there's not enough money to build hospitals ( remember Blairs public private partnerships), build critical infrastructure ( Hinkley C,France and China, guaranteed over market value for their investment) plus countless other examples.

Yet to support banking,or financing wars there's an endless supply of printed money.

This 'debt' is created, and is a burden for future generations, until inflated away, or seemingly more likely by the day, defaulted on at some future date.

Literally every facet of life is being gamed and nudged these days, and with the advent of AI this is becoming more apparent and prevalent by the day.

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By *3versMan
2 weeks ago

glasgow


"Very interesting!! Westminster Govt are stepping in to save Scunthorpe blast furnaces and hopefully nationalizing it. Removing the Chinese. I mean who the fuck even allows such a British industry to be owned by the bloody Chinese??

Apparently (according to our oriental friends)losing £700,000 a day!!I

Now then what about maybe nationalising Grangemouth refinery losing £350,000 a day (allegedly) or does that not matter because it's jobs in Scotland??

Jobs at any price?

We will have to see.

It's not at any price, it's keeping hard working guys in work, giving them pride,letting them provide for family and giving them a reason to get up in the morning. Think, seriously about the money squandered on shit by governments (like HS2, like housing immigrants, like a hundred other "projects" . Ffs Socialist Government????"

Where do you expect asylum seekers to live, note the majority of immigrants come to the UK legally and sort out their own housing?

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By *lim_sportyMan
2 weeks ago

stevenage


"So the Liberal elite have been instructed to actually like war and some bod has informed them that to actually fight wars you need industrial capacity and above all you need steel.

Funny how there's not enough money to build hospitals ( remember Blairs public private partnerships), build critical infrastructure ( Hinkley C,France and China, guaranteed over market value for their investment) plus countless other examples.

Yet to support banking,or financing wars there's an endless supply of printed money.

This 'debt' is created, and is a burden for future generations, until inflated away, or seemingly more likely by the day, defaulted on at some future date.

Literally every facet of life is being gamed and nudged these days, and with the advent of AI this is becoming more apparent and prevalent by the day."

Your point being?

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By *iFlyGuyMan
2 weeks ago

Visiting


"Not about jobs or profits, a country that can't produce steel can't defend itself.

It's about being safe and staying relevant "

Wait till you find out who owns the power stations and power networks....

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By *oxtrot1471Man
2 weeks ago

oxford

Makes sense to secure it for future use of British based government contracts, should be made to use British steel.

Does not matter if it costs more as once we can't make it we have to hope a friendly government will supply it.

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By *over40Man
2 weeks ago

aberdeen


"Very interesting!! Westminster Govt are stepping in to save Scunthorpe blast furnaces and hopefully nationalizing it. Removing the Chinese. I mean who the fuck even allows such a British industry to be owned by the bloody Chinese??

Apparently (according to our oriental friends)losing £700,000 a day!!I

Now then what about maybe nationalising Grangemouth refinery losing £350,000 a day (allegedly) or does that not matter because it's jobs in Scotland??

Jobs at any price?

We will have to see.

It's not at any price, it's keeping hard working guys in work, giving them pride,letting them provide for family and giving them a reason to get up in the morning. Think, seriously about the money squandered on shit by governments (like HS2, like housing immigrants, like a hundred other "projects" . Ffs Socialist Government????"

Don't forget the money wasted by the government supporting Scottish pensioners who had one mars bar supper too many....

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By *ngel50TV/TS
6 days ago

Kinross


"Makes sense to secure it for future use of British based government contracts, should be made to use British steel.

Does not matter if it costs more as once we can't make it we have to hope a friendly government will supply it.

"

Exactly, keep our Coal Fires Burning 🔥 🔥❤️❤️

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By *ichey6Man
6 days ago

aberdeen

Rubber Soul.

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By *ngel50TV/TS
6 days ago

Kinross


"Not about jobs or profits, a country that can't produce steel can't defend itself.

It's about being safe and staying relevant "

Open up our mines again and keep the coal burning 🔥 🔥 ⛏️⚒️ 🔥 🔥

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By *eefandfurMan
6 days ago

Edinburgh

UK governments' policies have made it virtually economically inviable to run energy-intensive, high CO2 emitting manufacturing here. They don't seem to understand the meaning of the word "Global"; doesn't matter if the C02 is emitted here or China.

No long-term or strategic planning.

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By *usan 749ukTV/TS
6 days ago

Bangor

We have enough oil, gas and coal in our own country but we spend millions on importing it. Start drilling and mining again, that’s what a country needs for its security and prosperity.

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By *laireKTV/TS
6 days ago

Manchester


"UK governments' policies have made it virtually economically inviable to run energy-intensive, high CO2 emitting manufacturing here. They don't seem to understand the meaning of the word "Global"; doesn't matter if the C02 is emitted here or China.

No long-term or strategic planning. "

It's because your average politician is stupid when it comes to business or technology.

They don't understand what a plan would mean.

People question Musks motivation, but in terms of vision be pisses all over our bunch of incompetents.

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By *im125 OP   Man
6 days ago

Perth

What fuckin arsehole(s) even considered allowing the yellow peril to buy/own major industries in the UK. ? It can only be backhanders in a huge way!!

Fuckin unbelievable if you sit down anthink.about it logically!!!

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By *3versMan
6 days ago

glasgow


"Very interesting!! Westminster Govt are stepping in to save Scunthorpe blast furnaces and hopefully nationalizing it. Removing the Chinese. I mean who the fuck even allows such a British industry to be owned by the bloody Chinese??

Apparently (according to our oriental friends)losing £700,000 a day!!I

Now then what about maybe nationalising Grangemouth refinery losing £350,000 a day (allegedly) or does that not matter because it's jobs in Scotland??"

It's very difficult to restart a blast furnace once it's mothballed - stepping in was the only way to prevent this happening as the current owners had sold of and not reordered any of the raw materials. Scunthorpe was time critical Grangemouth is not.

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By *im125 OP   Man
6 days ago

Perth


"Very interesting!! Westminster Govt are stepping in to save Scunthorpe blast furnaces and hopefully nationalizing it. Removing the Chinese. I mean who the fuck even allows such a British industry to be owned by the bloody Chinese??

Apparently (according to our oriental friends)losing £700,000 a day!!I

Now then what about maybe nationalising Grangemouth refinery losing £350,000 a day (allegedly) or does that not matter because it's jobs in Scotland??

It's very difficult to restart a blast furnace once it's mothballed - stepping in was the only way to prevent this happening as the current owners had sold of and not reordered any of the raw materials. Scunthorpe was time critical Grangemouth is not."

I partly agree with what you say from an engineering point of view re Scunthorpe but try telling the guys about to lose their jobs that Grangemouth isn't time critical!!

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By *3versMan
6 days ago

glasgow


"Very interesting!! Westminster Govt are stepping in to save Scunthorpe blast furnaces and hopefully nationalizing it. Removing the Chinese. I mean who the fuck even allows such a British industry to be owned by the bloody Chinese??

Apparently (according to our oriental friends)losing £700,000 a day!!I

Now then what about maybe nationalising Grangemouth refinery losing £350,000 a day (allegedly) or does that not matter because it's jobs in Scotland??

It's very difficult to restart a blast furnace once it's mothballed - stepping in was the only way to prevent this happening as the current owners had sold of and not reordered any of the raw materials. Scunthorpe was time critical Grangemouth is not.

I partly agree with what you say from an engineering point of view re Scunthorpe but try telling the guys about to lose their jobs that Grangemouth isn't time critical!!"

If it was that important to the Scottish government they could step in and fund it. Surely a little more tax on something that is deemed so important would be a good use of money, maybe they could pause the baby boxes...

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By *all bald guyMan
6 days ago

godalming

It’s losing 500 million a year…

Half a billion.! Loss.!

It needs radically changing if it’s to be kept running.

Can’t expect the taxpayer to keep it going endlessly.

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By *jw58Man
5 days ago

Newport

Labour bending over backwards to save Scunthorpe in England, yet only a few months ago were quite happy to see Port Talbot in Wales close down.

Shame on them especially Steven Kinnock there useless labour job for life MP

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By *ardforall56Man
5 days ago

belfast

Your Tory government sold every asset in country and did not give a fuck who to.Started in thatchers times and the Labour Party are guilty to.They sold the Belfast ship yard for few quid hoping the new owners would keep it running first thing the owners did was break it up and flog what they could.They sold other yards and industrial complex’s the same way.Its not the fault the buyers like the chinks etc but your government.Ffs they sold the fucking Royal Mail to some oversea buyer.Sorry for the rant

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By *ngel50TV/TS
5 days ago

Kinross


"We have enough oil, gas and coal in our own country but we spend millions on importing it. Start drilling and mining again, that’s what a country needs for its security and prosperity. "

Well said, North Sea oil & gas Exploration should be reinstated

And if any mines can be re-opened then why not.

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By *ary1066Man
5 days ago

Preston

We hear a lot about the importance of keeping Scunthorpe open for defence reasons ,

Does this foundry actually make sheet steel or is it girders/ rails .

If so it won’t have the capability to change so we are being misled

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By *elly10000TV/TS
5 days ago

Leeds/Fuengirola

There are 6 oil refineries in the UK. There is only one virgin steel plant (Scunthorpe).

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By *ngel50TV/TS
5 days ago

Kinross


"We hear a lot about the importance of keeping Scunthorpe open for defence reasons ,

Does this foundry actually make sheet steel or is it girders/ rails .

If so it won’t have the capability to change so we are being misled "

Coke coal is essential for High Carbon Steel

We need far more Coal furnaces for Virgin Steel and High Carbon Steel

Electric arc furnaces use only recycle steel crap and nowhere as strong as high carbon steel from iron ore blast furnaces

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By *hedebaucheeMan
5 days ago

Carlisle

Who could’ve foreseen that when the Tories sold off the family silver it would be a bad thing?

Anyone with half a brain, that’s who.

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By *ary1066Man
5 days ago

Preston


"We hear a lot about the importance of keeping Scunthorpe open for defence reasons ,

Does this foundry actually make sheet steel or is it girders/ rails .

If so it won’t have the capability to change so we are being misled

Coke coal is essential for High Carbon Steel

We need far more Coal furnaces for Virgin Steel and High Carbon Steel

Electric arc furnaces use only recycle steel crap and nowhere as strong as high carbon steel from iron ore blast furnaces "

The question I was trying to put is does Scunthorpe only makes steel for rails and construction which would still leave a gaping hole in sheet metal production that I believe was until recently made at port talbot

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By *ickie76xxxMan
5 days ago

dartford


"We hear a lot about the importance of keeping Scunthorpe open for defence reasons ,

Does this foundry actually make sheet steel or is it girders/ rails .

If so it won’t have the capability to change so we are being misled "

This is it in a nutshell. There is only one place now that can do heavy plate via the reverse mill process and that’s the mill in Motherwell Scotland. The problem is that the plate used to do this is made from steel slab and the last place to produce that was Scunthorpe but that was stopped a while ago and meant all steel slab was then imported. On top of this all and iron ore is now also imported.

Basically we haven’t produced plate in the uk for a while and as you say the mills only roll sections which is due to the systematic destruction of the steel industry and to sum it up we are completely reliant on import and completely fucked. There are companies that still specialise in armour plate but again all reliant on import.

One thing is for sure though is we would of been even more fucked without the blast furnaces but again will still be reliant on import but if they shut them down then that would be it as they can’t be restarted.

It’s too far gone to recover and if it did come to it and we needed it for a war (god forbid) we would be up against it as the rest of Europe would be in a similar situation.

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By *espectdueMan
5 days ago

Stratford-Upon-Avon


"Very interesting!! Westminster Govt are stepping in to save Scunthorpe blast furnaces and hopefully nationalizing it. Removing the Chinese. I mean who the fuck even allows such a British industry to be owned by the bloody Chinese??

Apparently (according to our oriental friends)losing £700,000 a day!! "

I believe that would be our old friend Boris, who also got a Russian company to built number 10s news briefing room (because of course we trust russia?)

What a guy!

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By *50xxxMan
5 days ago

Wolverhampton

Now how about nationalising brum bin men !

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By *laireKTV/TS
5 days ago

Manchester

It's far too late to blame Boris.

We have not had a sustainable industrial strategy for decades.

I knew lots of manufacturing engineers who saw the way things were going and left the sector in the 90s.

I had people telling me that the future lay in marketing and finance.

They were being short sighted and naive imo.

China will not give up their manufacturing base without a mighty fight.

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By *avewill1Man
5 days ago

wilts


"Very interesting!! Westminster Govt are stepping in to save Scunthorpe blast furnaces and hopefully nationalizing it. Removing the Chinese. I mean who the fuck even allows such a British industry to be owned by the bloody Chinese??

Apparently (according to our oriental friends)losing £700,000 a day!!

I believe that would be our old friend Boris, who also got a Russian company to built number 10s news briefing room (because of course we trust russia?)

What a guy! "

. Another cheap remark. British steel then as well as now was and is a very bad investment. As the Chinese have discovered. No other business worldwide were willing to take them on. I'm glad to see it back in UK hands,BUT we are going to pay a massive price for the privilege. Money we clearly don't have. Labour are bleeding money on a scale we have never experienced. Scary times ahead

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By *im125 OP   Man
5 days ago

Perth


"There are 6 oil refineries in the UK. There is only one virgin steel plant (Scunthorpe). "

Ah right, so bollocks to the Scottish oil refinery and bollocks to Port Talbot in Wales! "There'll always be an England"

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By *lim_sportyMan
4 days ago

stevenage


"Very interesting!! Westminster Govt are stepping in to save Scunthorpe blast furnaces and hopefully nationalizing it. Removing the Chinese. I mean who the fuck even allows such a British industry to be owned by the bloody Chinese??

Apparently (according to our oriental friends)losing £700,000 a day!!

I believe that would be our old friend Boris, who also got a Russian company to built number 10s news briefing room (because of course we trust russia?)

What a guy! . Another cheap remark. British steel then as well as now was and is a very bad investment. As the Chinese have discovered. No other business worldwide were willing to take them on. I'm glad to see it back in UK hands,BUT we are going to pay a massive price for the privilege. Money we clearly don't have. Labour are bleeding money on a scale we have never experienced. Scary times ahead"

Totally agree. The reason being security in home grown steel production. Meanwhile they have no home grown coking coal. So in short there is no security in the home grown steel production. This was political at a high cost.

Governments of all kinds have no long commercial strategy.

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By *d sometimesTV/TS
4 days ago

Melton Mowbray

Huge money pit on a massive scale. The losses will probably double up as governments know nothing about running the foundary on this scale. If those that do know how to run a foundary carnt make it pay what chance has amateurs got.

I understand the reasons but it's impossible.

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By *espectdueMan
4 days ago

Stratford-Upon-Avon


"Very interesting!! Westminster Govt are stepping in to save Scunthorpe blast furnaces and hopefully nationalizing it. Removing the Chinese. I mean who the fuck even allows such a British industry to be owned by the bloody Chinese??

Apparently (according to our oriental friends)losing £700,000 a day!!

I believe that would be our old friend Boris, who also got a Russian company to built number 10s news briefing room (because of course we trust russia?)

What a guy! . Another cheap remark. British steel then as well as now was and is a very bad investment. As the Chinese have discovered. No other business worldwide were willing to take them on. I'm glad to see it back in UK hands,BUT we are going to pay a massive price for the privilege. Money we clearly don't have. Labour are bleeding money on a scale we have never experienced. Scary times ahead"

How is it labours fault if this has been allowed to happen when we had the tories in charge for 14yrs.

Silly comment again.

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By *ozyDeeMan
4 days ago

Middlesbrough

Closed Redcar blast furnace in I think 2015, owned by Thailand's SSI.

I believe it was then the biggest in Europe, had millions spent on it, with powdered coal injection.

SSI walked away with massive losses and Tory boy Hesseltine was drafted in to carve up what was left.

Only steel on Teesside now comes from Scunthorpe and is rolled into H section beams.

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By *ogwhammerMan
4 days ago

Rainham KENT

Since the 70s the Tories have systematically and deliberately destroyed British heavy industry and ham strung or sold the tech industry. Initially it was to reduce trade union power and then to pump up “invisibles”. Once they and their chums were minted they dropped all pretence an sold us out to foreign investors eg Arm, the PO etc

Cameron set up NHS England to make it easier to flog the NHS too

Liz Truss had the Fiz with Liz parties where she smoozed with the very people who made a fortune out of her mini budget

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By *ew trixTV/TS
4 days ago

doncaster

Scunthorpe sits on top of some of the biggest coal fields in the uk but the tories and thatcher made sure that all the collieries were shut down , then started to import coal from abroad , they then sold off the steel industries to foreigners who have sysematically run them down while also receiving govenment hand outs over the years — the Tories started to take the Great out of Britain’s in the 70s

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By *ngel50TV/TS
4 days ago

Kinross


"Very interesting!! Westminster Govt are stepping in to save Scunthorpe blast furnaces and hopefully nationalizing it. Removing the Chinese. I mean who the fuck even allows such a British industry to be owned by the bloody Chinese??

Apparently (according to our oriental friends)losing £700,000 a day!!

I believe that would be our old friend Boris, who also got a Russian company to built number 10s news briefing room (because of course we trust russia?)

What a guy! . Another cheap remark. British steel then as well as now was and is a very bad investment. As the Chinese have discovered. No other business worldwide were willing to take them on. I'm glad to see it back in UK hands,BUT we are going to pay a massive price for the privilege. Money we clearly don't have. Labour are bleeding money on a scale we have never experienced. Scary times ahead

How is it labours fault if this has been allowed to happen when we had the tories in charge for 14yrs.

Silly comment again."

Well Labour now has the chance to fix everything that's wrong in the UK, let's see what they cut next..

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By *espectdueMan
4 days ago

Stratford-Upon-Avon


"Very interesting!! Westminster Govt are stepping in to save Scunthorpe blast furnaces and hopefully nationalizing it. Removing the Chinese. I mean who the fuck even allows such a British industry to be owned by the bloody Chinese??

Apparently (according to our oriental friends)losing £700,000 a day!!

I believe that would be our old friend Boris, who also got a Russian company to built number 10s news briefing room (because of course we trust russia?)

What a guy! . Another cheap remark. British steel then as well as now was and is a very bad investment. As the Chinese have discovered. No other business worldwide were willing to take them on. I'm glad to see it back in UK hands,BUT we are going to pay a massive price for the privilege. Money we clearly don't have. Labour are bleeding money on a scale we have never experienced. Scary times ahead

How is it labours fault if this has been allowed to happen when we had the tories in charge for 14yrs.

Silly comment again.

Well Labour now has the chance to fix everything that's wrong in the UK, let's see what they cut next.."

Even if they could, it'll take a long time.

The person i was replying to seemed upset that I was pointing out Boris's use of communist countries in building things here. They seemed to think this was a silly response when I was actually answering the posters first question.

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By *ickeMan
4 days ago

watford

Their be going on strike soon . Give it year to close down .

Our government have to pay out millions in Redundancy payouts , not Chinese .

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By *speedoMan
4 days ago

eastbourne

If Typhoo put the tea in Britain, who put the cunt in Scunthorpe ?

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By *attersbyMan
4 days ago

cotswold


"If Typhoo put the tea in Britain, who put the cunt in Scunthorpe ? "

Probably Boris Johnson

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By *etterbiggerMan
4 days ago

Scunthorpe


"Not about jobs or profits, a country that can't produce steel can't defend itself.

It's about being safe and staying relevant "

It needs the electric arc furnace. A huge consumer of electricity. We don't have enough spare capacity. After nationalisation we will still be dependant on foreign countries to produce steel. The existing furnaces burn from coal. We closed all our coal mines so can't produce our own. So that has to be imported. The British steel coking plant produced it own on site. A major polluter the coking plant closed because of the massive fines imposed on British steel by the plants new owners ie the government. So no fuel, coal or electricity. Massive fines for pollution. All as a direct interference by the plants new owners, the government. You can't make it up

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By *ngel50TV/TS
4 days ago

Kinross


"Not about jobs or profits, a country that can't produce steel can't defend itself.

It's about being safe and staying relevant

It needs the electric arc furnace. A huge consumer of electricity. We don't have enough spare capacity. After nationalisation we will still be dependant on foreign countries to produce steel. The existing furnaces burn from coal. We closed all our coal mines so can't produce our own. So that has to be imported. The British steel coking plant produced it own on site. A major polluter the coking plant closed because of the massive fines imposed on British steel by the plants new owners ie the government. So no fuel, coal or electricity. Massive fines for pollution. All as a direct interference by the plants new owners, the government. You can't make it up"

So it's Goodbye High Carbon Steel when they go electric

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By *obbertMan
4 days ago

In a world of my own

Coal, steel, ship building, car manufacturing, a 1001 skilled trades all gone over the last half century, Britain once the powerhouse of the world, whittled down to huge warehouse and dumping ground by successive governments of all persuasion.

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By *0yguyMan
4 days ago

Cumberland

I had to laugh at the title of this thread: British steel Scunhorpe.

I know it’s a guy’s site but why take the cunt out of Scunthorpe?

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By *im125 OP   Man
4 days ago

Perth


"I had to laugh at the title of this thread: British steel Scunhorpe.

I know it’s a guy’s site but why take the cunt out of Scunthorpe?"

Because it's a spelling error, simple. !

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By *igDickEnergyMan
3 days ago

cardiff


"We have enough oil, gas and coal in our own country but we spend millions on importing it. Start drilling and mining again, that’s what a country needs for its security and prosperity. "

Manifest 1850!!!

Backwards is the way

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By *0yguyMan
3 days ago

Cumberland


"I had to laugh at the title of this thread: British steel Scunhorpe.

I know it’s a guy’s site but why take the cunt out of Scunthorpe?

Because it's a spelling error, simple. !

"

Doh! Who’d have thought it.

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By *avewill1Man
3 days ago

wilts


"Very interesting!! Westminster Govt are stepping in to save Scunthorpe blast furnaces and hopefully nationalizing it. Removing the Chinese. I mean who the fuck even allows such a British industry to be owned by the bloody Chinese??

Apparently (according to our oriental friends)losing £700,000 a day!!

I believe that would be our old friend Boris, who also got a Russian company to built number 10s news briefing room (because of course we trust russia?)

What a guy! . Another cheap remark. British steel then as well as now was and is a very bad investment. As the Chinese have discovered. No other business worldwide were willing to take them on. I'm glad to see it back in UK hands,BUT we are going to pay a massive price for the privilege. Money we clearly don't have. Labour are bleeding money on a scale we have never experienced. Scary times ahead

How is it labours fault if this has been allowed to happen when we had the tories in charge for 14yrs.

Silly comment again."

Only silly part is you getting confused. no one blamed labour. I was simply remarking that it will come at a very massive price. whether its a good idea to nationalize or not.I dont pretend to know. But Tories retained british steel by allowing chinese to buy it out. no real cost to the taxpayer. Lets see now if Labour can find a buyer. if so happy days. If not, Ouch! it will hurt

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By *igDickEnergyMan
3 days ago

cardiff


"Very interesting!! Westminster Govt are stepping in to save Scunthorpe blast furnaces and hopefully nationalizing it. Removing the Chinese. I mean who the fuck even allows such a British industry to be owned by the bloody Chinese??

Apparently (according to our oriental friends)losing £700,000 a day!!

I believe that would be our old friend Boris, who also got a Russian company to built number 10s news briefing room (because of course we trust russia?)

What a guy! . Another cheap remark. British steel then as well as now was and is a very bad investment. As the Chinese have discovered. No other business worldwide were willing to take them on. I'm glad to see it back in UK hands,BUT we are going to pay a massive price for the privilege. Money we clearly don't have. Labour are bleeding money on a scale we have never experienced. Scary times ahead

How is it labours fault if this has been allowed to happen when we had the tories in charge for 14yrs.

Silly comment again. Only silly part is you getting confused. no one blamed labour. I was simply remarking that it will come at a very massive price. whether its a good idea to nationalize or not.I dont pretend to know. But Tories retained british steel by allowing chinese to buy it out. no real cost to the taxpayer. Lets see now if Labour can find a buyer. if so happy days. If not, Ouch! it will hurt"

No cost to the taxpayer, expect we could never build a war ship or a spoon again thanks to that torie sell out

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By *ary1066Man
3 days ago

Preston


"Very interesting!! Westminster Govt are stepping in to save Scunthorpe blast furnaces and hopefully nationalizing it. Removing the Chinese. I mean who the fuck even allows such a British industry to be owned by the bloody Chinese??

Apparently (according to our oriental friends)losing £700,000 a day!!

I believe that would be our old friend Boris, who also got a Russian company to built number 10s news briefing room (because of course we trust russia?)

What a guy! . Another cheap remark. British steel then as well as now was and is a very bad investment. As the Chinese have discovered. No other business worldwide were willing to take them on. I'm glad to see it back in UK hands,BUT we are going to pay a massive price for the privilege. Money we clearly don't have. Labour are bleeding money on a scale we have never experienced. Scary times ahead

How is it labours fault if this has been allowed to happen when we had the tories in charge for 14yrs.

Silly comment again. Only silly part is you getting confused. no one blamed labour. I was simply remarking that it will come at a very massive price. whether its a good idea to nationalize or not.I dont pretend to know. But Tories retained british steel by allowing chinese to buy it out. no real cost to the taxpayer. Lets see now if Labour can find a buyer. if so happy days. If not, Ouch! it will hurt

No cost to the taxpayer, expect we could never build a war ship or a spoon again thanks to that torie sell out "

And we still won’t be able too, Scunthorpe do not make sheet steel and have not got the capability to ever make that.

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By *igDickEnergyMan
3 days ago

cardiff


"Very interesting!! Westminster Govt are stepping in to save Scunthorpe blast furnaces and hopefully nationalizing it. Removing the Chinese. I mean who the fuck even allows such a British industry to be owned by the bloody Chinese??

Apparently (according to our oriental friends)losing £700,000 a day!!

I believe that would be our old friend Boris, who also got a Russian company to built number 10s news briefing room (because of course we trust russia?)

What a guy! . Another cheap remark. British steel then as well as now was and is a very bad investment. As the Chinese have discovered. No other business worldwide were willing to take them on. I'm glad to see it back in UK hands,BUT we are going to pay a massive price for the privilege. Money we clearly don't have. Labour are bleeding money on a scale we have never experienced. Scary times ahead

How is it labours fault if this has been allowed to happen when we had the tories in charge for 14yrs.

Silly comment again. Only silly part is you getting confused. no one blamed labour. I was simply remarking that it will come at a very massive price. whether its a good idea to nationalize or not.I dont pretend to know. But Tories retained british steel by allowing chinese to buy it out. no real cost to the taxpayer. Lets see now if Labour can find a buyer. if so happy days. If not, Ouch! it will hurt

No cost to the taxpayer, expect we could never build a war ship or a spoon again thanks to that torie sell out

And we still won’t be able too, Scunthorpe do not make sheet steel and have not got the capability to ever make that.

"

It makes virgin steel which is in everything.

Try harder

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By *ary1066Man
3 days ago

Preston


"Very interesting!! Westminster Govt are stepping in to save Scunthorpe blast furnaces and hopefully nationalizing it. Removing the Chinese. I mean who the fuck even allows such a British industry to be owned by the bloody Chinese??

Apparently (according to our oriental friends)losing £700,000 a day!!

I believe that would be our old friend Boris, who also got a Russian company to built number 10s news briefing room (because of course we trust russia?)

What a guy! . Another cheap remark. British steel then as well as now was and is a very bad investment. As the Chinese have discovered. No other business worldwide were willing to take them on. I'm glad to see it back in UK hands,BUT we are going to pay a massive price for the privilege. Money we clearly don't have. Labour are bleeding money on a scale we have never experienced. Scary times ahead

How is it labours fault if this has been allowed to happen when we had the tories in charge for 14yrs.

Silly comment again. Only silly part is you getting confused. no one blamed labour. I was simply remarking that it will come at a very massive price. whether its a good idea to nationalize or not.I dont pretend to know. But Tories retained british steel by allowing chinese to buy it out. no real cost to the taxpayer. Lets see now if Labour can find a buyer. if so happy days. If not, Ouch! it will hurt

No cost to the taxpayer, expect we could never build a war ship or a spoon again thanks to that torie sell out

And we still won’t be able too, Scunthorpe do not make sheet steel and have not got the capability to ever make that.

It makes virgin steel which is in everything.

Try harder "

So your saying Scunthorpe does make steel sheet metal, if so that’s something the owners , British government and every media outlet that has reported on this arrangement has said they don’t .

Get yourself on the phone and let starmer know he’s bought a keeper , it’s not every day you buy a pig in a poke and get more than you paid for

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By *reme1Man
3 days ago

dursley

As an ex employee of British Steel I can assure you that the Chinese and India have been ravaging this industry since 1985…and not one political party has ever defended it, protected or invested in it, and that’s fact.

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By *igDickEnergyMan
3 days ago

cardiff


"Very interesting!! Westminster Govt are stepping in to save Scunthorpe blast furnaces and hopefully nationalizing it. Removing the Chinese. I mean who the fuck even allows such a British industry to be owned by the bloody Chinese??

Apparently (according to our oriental friends)losing £700,000 a day!!

I believe that would be our old friend Boris, who also got a Russian company to built number 10s news briefing room (because of course we trust russia?)

What a guy! . Another cheap remark. British steel then as well as now was and is a very bad investment. As the Chinese have discovered. No other business worldwide were willing to take them on. I'm glad to see it back in UK hands,BUT we are going to pay a massive price for the privilege. Money we clearly don't have. Labour are bleeding money on a scale we have never experienced. Scary times ahead

How is it labours fault if this has been allowed to happen when we had the tories in charge for 14yrs.

Silly comment again. Only silly part is you getting confused. no one blamed labour. I was simply remarking that it will come at a very massive price. whether its a good idea to nationalize or not.I dont pretend to know. But Tories retained british steel by allowing chinese to buy it out. no real cost to the taxpayer. Lets see now if Labour can find a buyer. if so happy days. If not, Ouch! it will hurt

No cost to the taxpayer, expect we could never build a war ship or a spoon again thanks to that torie sell out

And we still won’t be able too, Scunthorpe do not make sheet steel and have not got the capability to ever make that.

It makes virgin steel which is in everything.

Try harder

So your saying Scunthorpe does make steel sheet metal, if so that’s something the owners , British government and every media outlet that has reported on this arrangement has said they don’t .

Get yourself on the phone and let starmer know he’s bought a keeper , it’s not every day you buy a pig in a poke and get more than you paid for "

Babe step away, Google the difference virgin and blanket steel

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By *ary1066Man
3 days ago

Preston


"Very interesting!! Westminster Govt are stepping in to save Scunthorpe blast furnaces and hopefully nationalizing it. Removing the Chinese. I mean who the fuck even allows such a British industry to be owned by the bloody Chinese??

Apparently (according to our oriental friends)losing £700,000 a day!!

I believe that would be our old friend Boris, who also got a Russian company to built number 10s news briefing room (because of course we trust russia?)

What a guy! . Another cheap remark. British steel then as well as now was and is a very bad investment. As the Chinese have discovered. No other business worldwide were willing to take them on. I'm glad to see it back in UK hands,BUT we are going to pay a massive price for the privilege. Money we clearly don't have. Labour are bleeding money on a scale we have never experienced. Scary times ahead

How is it labours fault if this has been allowed to happen when we had the tories in charge for 14yrs.

Silly comment again. Only silly part is you getting confused. no one blamed labour. I was simply remarking that it will come at a very massive price. whether its a good idea to nationalize or not.I dont pretend to know. But Tories retained british steel by allowing chinese to buy it out. no real cost to the taxpayer. Lets see now if Labour can find a buyer. if so happy days. If not, Ouch! it will hurt

No cost to the taxpayer, expect we could never build a war ship or a spoon again thanks to that torie sell out

And we still won’t be able too, Scunthorpe do not make sheet steel and have not got the capability to ever make that.

It makes virgin steel which is in everything.

Try harder

So your saying Scunthorpe does make steel sheet metal, if so that’s something the owners , British government and every media outlet that has reported on this arrangement has said they don’t .

Get yourself on the phone and let starmer know he’s bought a keeper , it’s not every day you buy a pig in a poke and get more than you paid for

Babe step away, Google the difference virgin and blanket steel "

Condescension is not your forte Babe give it up

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By *enardeMan
3 days ago

Barnsley


"Very interesting!! Westminster Govt are stepping in to save Scunthorpe blast furnaces and hopefully nationalizing it. Removing the Chinese. I mean who the fuck even allows such a British industry to be owned by the bloody Chinese??

Apparently (according to our oriental friends)losing £700,000 a day!!I

Now then what about maybe nationalising Grangemouth refinery losing £350,000 a day (allegedly) or does that not matter because it's jobs in Scotland??

Jobs at any price?

We will have to see.

It's not at any price, it's keeping hard working guys in work, giving them pride,letting them provide for family and giving them a reason to get up in the morning. Think, seriously about the money squandered on shit by governments (like HS2, like housing immigrants, like a hundred other "projects" . Ffs Socialist Government????"

Have to agree

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By *enardeMan
3 days ago

Barnsley


"Some industries need to be in public ownership. The Tories should never have sold them off."

They had to the unions were running them all down

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By *im125 OP   Man
3 days ago

Perth


"Some industries need to be in public ownership. The Tories should never have sold them off.

They had to the unions were running them all down "

Crap. The unions wanted decent wages nothng more

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By *lim_sportyMan
3 days ago

stevenage

I find this relationship with steel strange.

Energy has to be the top of the list for a nation's security, as practically everything is dependent on it. Then food.

But this country has no problem sourcing these globally.

Stop the steel romance.

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