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"It's not difficult to type: "Hi, I like your profile, I also enjoy doing..." " No. Not difficult. But pointless if it is going to be ignored. | |||
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"It's not difficult to type: "Hi, I like your profile, I also enjoy doing..." No. Not difficult. But pointless if it is going to be ignored." I always ignore a one word message. If the guy makes an effort I will too, but if he can't be bothered why should I? Good manners cost nothing but time and if anyone expects me to invest my time in them I have a right to expect the same | |||
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"It's not difficult to type: "Hi, I like your profile, I also enjoy doing..." No. Not difficult. But pointless if it is going to be ignored." Any message would be ignored if received from a member with a very off-putting profile. ![]() | |||
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"I agree. It's kind of natural to open up a conversation with just 'hi!'. If after four or five exchanges the replies remain in single-syllables then I'd probably take flight, but as an opener i think it's adequate🤷🏽♂️" ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Nothing. This place is cursed with pretentious self important people sometimes. No manners. No charm. Avoid them! As thankfully there’s a load of good blokes too! " “Ooooh… get her!” | |||
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"No one requires a life story but "Hi" is lame and lazy and deserves no particular reply." Interesting notion, but some people are very nervous about making contact or have difficulty articulating what they are seeking. | |||
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"Perhaps the question is better expressed not so much as “What's wrong with just 'hi'?” as “What could be better than just ‘hi’?” Compare and contrast:- A] “Hello. I’m travelling in your area and saw your profile. I really liked your xxxxxx and saw we shared the same interest in yyyyyy. As well as the pictures on my profile here’s some face pictures of me attached. If you were free tonight and interested, please let me know.” Commentary: 1. That took all of 20 seconds to type. For those above saying, oh it’s not worth writing more than ‘hi’ until you know they are interested, I think you miss the point ENTIRELY. Some people are not going to be interested until you actually have something meaningful to say and they know exactly what you want. You invest that time to avoid the several next back and forths which would otherwise take up yet more time. 2. Only an absolute cunt would not send a reply to that. Now there are sadly absolute cunts online and indeed on FabGuys, so replies are not guaranteed, but if someone is too rude to acknowledge that sort of message then you are very much better off not hearing from them, let alone meeting them. 3. If the person writing anything like that is not my type, I would still reply courteously to say exactly that. If I was not available but otherwise might have been interested, I’ll reply to establish interest in case anything could happen in the future. The person who was clear-minded enough to send me such a message will have impressed me whatever. 4. Nothing has been lost by you writing that. But they have now no reason not to be able to make an informed decision about replying to you. They know what you look like; they know what you’re looking for and when; etc. B] “hi” Commentary: 1. My heart sinks. Genuinely. It’s a totally passive way to initiate something. You’re already expecting the person you’ve contacted to have to find out why you’re contacting them! 2. It took zero seconds. Are they lazy - how keen is their interest - are they going to be able to send any sort of meaningful replies - have they sent a hundred ‘hi’ messages out hoping at least one person replies?; etc. 3. I already know I need to fast forward through the several ongoing layers of guff that will come otherwise. “Wuu2” etc. I will often try to force the issue with a “Hello. How can I help?” Or “Why are you messaging me?” 4. That is why some people default to saying they will not bother to reply to one word messages or ‘hi’ etc. They have enough experience of 1, 2, 3 above. 5. If I get a rather feeble opening message from someone who looks eminently fuckable and whose profile looks interesting, the weakness of their opening gambit is easily forgiven. This is called human nature. If I get a rather feeble opener from someone who has no pictures and no info on their profile, I’m already feeling unimpressed. I’m not going to fall over myself to find out if they are hiding their light under a bushel. This is called human nature. " I'm sure some 'men' on here (I care not one jot) already consider me an "absolute cunt," but I'd consider answering your aforementioned opening message. I generally (with some exceptions, of course) have no interest in answering "hi" messages and you've done an exemplary job of explaining why 👍 😅 | |||
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"Some guys on here say they delete messages with just 'hi' in them. Why? It's an ice-breaker. You don't want to go to the trouble of writing a long message if it is just to be ignored! Also, you wouldn't go up to a stranger in a bar and let them know in detail what you're after. You would start with an ice-breaker. Like 'hi'..." Totally agree...it's a complete waste of time putting loads of effort into writing a long message, just to be ignored ![]() | |||
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"It's not difficult to type: "Hi, I like your profile, I also enjoy doing..." No. Not difficult. But pointless if it is going to be ignored." Spot on | |||
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" … Totally agree...it's a complete waste of time putting loads of effort into writing a long message, just to be ignored ![]() Why do you think you are going to be ignored? Are you often ignored? I do note that you cannot travel nor accommodate; haven’t met anyone from this site (or at least one that has verified you) though have been on the site some time; and your profile is full of a whole list in capitals of all the things you don’t like and the negative traits you see in others. I don’t write this in any way as a sort of critique or judgment: just observations. But we all make instant conclusions both conscious and unconscio*s from our learnt experiences. But based on the profile, if you sent me “hi”, I would think “This person is just wanting to chat - or having a wank - he’s not here actually to meet.” That could be totally erroneous and unfair, but it’s the way our brains are likely to default. Perhaps you are the most enjoyable and garrulous boon-companion of all time. And I will have missed out on that. If you sent me a message like the one I’ve outlined above, giving information, saying why you were contacting me and showing yourself, then I’d start to take you seriously as someone who might be looking to meet. I suppose all of this is predicate to what we’re trying to get out of the site. I’m not here to chat idly. I need to ascertain quickly and as painlessly as possible if my interlocutor is just here to chat idly. | |||
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" … Totally agree...it's a complete waste of time putting loads of effort into writing a long message, just to be ignored ![]() In actual fact, most guys on here are tissue wankers, and I meet at saunas. I just use this site for the forums when I get time. If anything else happens, that's a bonus...but I don't look for it in here. As for me not travelling or accommodating, you're cleary missing what I'm saying in my profile...and it's the tissue wanking majority on here that the caps are aimed at. So no, I'm not "often ignored"...it's just that I don't really look for meets on here, with all the "wasteoftimeguys". Give me a sauna anyday. How about you...are you often ignored? I'm so glad that you're not being judgemental or personally attacking another user for daring to have a difference of opinion to you, because a) that's against the rules on here, b) is boring and arrogant and c) is the sign of a troll...I hope you're not a troll? | |||
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" … Totally agree...it's a complete waste of time putting loads of effort into writing a long message, just to be ignored ![]() I agree totally with the post you are responding with. He's spot on, but you have taken insult. I'd say he isn't ignored looking at his verifications! | |||
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" … Totally agree...it's a complete waste of time putting loads of effort into writing a long message, just to be ignored ![]() Good for you...maybe you can hook up ![]() | |||
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"Tbh I lost interest in reading your profile within a couple of paragraphs. Most guys on here don't want to read the New Testament...they want to get to the "good stuff", i.e. what you like doing, etc. They don't want a life history. That's not an attack or a critique...just an observation ![]() That’s the wonder and beauty of FabGuys, sir. It allows very different people to use the same space. Sometimes rubbing shoulders unceremoniously but otherwise gliding straight past each other. | |||
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"Because the messages usually go Hi Hi Hi Yea, you said that already *offline*" Exactly this 🙈🙈🙈😂😂😂 | |||
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"I can't be arsed with one word/line messages. I state in my profile I won't respond, therefore I assume they either haven't read my profile,or are too thick to comprehend " Pretty much the same as this to be honest- I say in my profile that I won't respond to these lazy openers, and then continuing to do so anyway suggests to me you haven't read the profile properly; and if you are lazy about that, it implies you may be lazy in other areas- or just sitting there wanking with no intention to meet. On the few occasions I have responded to it- or indeed the equally hideous 'HowsU' - it's always been someone who just wants wank-fodder style chat and disappears after they have cum. | |||
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"It's not difficult to type: "Hi, I like your profile, I also enjoy doing..." " Exactly, and it's an indication towards towards how much effort the other party might put in. I've responded to 'hi' previously, only to be answered with another one word response. | |||
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"It's not difficult to type: "Hi, I like your profile, I also enjoy doing..." No. Not difficult. But pointless if it is going to be ignored." You don't get it, it's more than likely the whole reason it's being ignored. | |||
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"Perhaps the question is better expressed not so much as “What's wrong with just 'hi'?” as “What could be better than just ‘hi’?” Compare and contrast:- A] “Hello. I’m travelling in your area and saw your profile. I really liked your xxxxxx and saw we shared the same interest in yyyyyy. As well as the pictures on my profile here’s some face pictures of me attached. If you were free tonight and interested, please let me know.” Commentary: 1. That took all of 20 seconds to type. For those above saying, oh it’s not worth writing more than ‘hi’ until you know they are interested, I think you miss the point ENTIRELY. Some people are not going to be interested until you actually have something meaningful to say and they know exactly what you want. You invest that time to avoid the several next back and forths which would otherwise take up yet more time. 2. Only an absolute cunt would not send a reply to that. Now there are sadly absolute cunts online and indeed on FabGuys, so replies are not guaranteed, but if someone is too rude to acknowledge that sort of message then you are very much better off not hearing from them, let alone meeting them. 3. If the person writing anything like that is not my type, I would still reply courteously to say exactly that. If I was not available but otherwise might have been interested, I’ll reply to establish interest in case anything could happen in the future. The person who was clear-minded enough to send me such a message will have impressed me whatever. 4. Nothing has been lost by you writing that. But they have now no reason not to be able to make an informed decision about replying to you. They know what you look like; they know what you’re looking for and when; etc. B] “hi” Commentary: 1. My heart sinks. Genuinely. It’s a totally passive way to initiate something. You’re already expecting the person you’ve contacted to have to find out why you’re contacting them! 2. It took zero seconds. Are they lazy - how keen is their interest - are they going to be able to send any sort of meaningful replies - have they sent a hundred ‘hi’ messages out hoping at least one person replies?; etc. 3. I already know I need to fast forward through the several ongoing layers of guff that will come otherwise. “Wuu2” etc. I will often try to force the issue with a “Hello. How can I help?” Or “Why are you messaging me?” 4. That is why some people default to saying they will not bother to reply to one word messages or ‘hi’ etc. They have enough experience of 1, 2, 3 above. 5. If I get a rather feeble opening message from someone who looks eminently fuckable and whose profile looks interesting, the weakness of their opening gambit is easily forgiven. This is called human nature. If I get a rather feeble opener from someone who has no pictures and no info on their profile, I’m already feeling unimpressed. I’m not going to fall over myself to find out if they are hiding their light under a bushel. This is called human nature. " Superb analysis! You would receive a prompt, courteous reply, regardless of the outcome.... | |||
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"Perhaps the question is better expressed not so much as “What's wrong with just 'hi'?” as “What could be better than just ‘hi’?” Compare and contrast:- A] “Hello. I’m travelling in your area and saw your profile. I really liked your xxxxxx and saw we shared the same interest in yyyyyy. As well as the pictures on my profile here’s some face pictures of me attached. If you were free tonight and interested, please let me know.” Commentary: 1. That took all of 20 seconds to type. For those above saying, oh it’s not worth writing more than ‘hi’ until you know they are interested, I think you miss the point ENTIRELY. Some people are not going to be interested until you actually have something meaningful to say and they know exactly what you want. You invest that time to avoid the several next back and forths which would otherwise take up yet more time. 2. Only an absolute cunt would not send a reply to that. Now there are sadly absolute cunts online and indeed on FabGuys, so replies are not guaranteed, but if someone is too rude to acknowledge that sort of message then you are very much better off not hearing from them, let alone meeting them. 3. If the person writing anything like that is not my type, I would still reply courteously to say exactly that. If I was not available but otherwise might have been interested, I’ll reply to establish interest in case anything could happen in the future. The person who was clear-minded enough to send me such a message will have impressed me whatever. 4. Nothing has been lost by you writing that. But they have now no reason not to be able to make an informed decision about replying to you. They know what you look like; they know what you’re looking for and when; etc. B] “hi” Commentary: 1. My heart sinks. Genuinely. It’s a totally passive way to initiate something. You’re already expecting the person you’ve contacted to have to find out why you’re contacting them! 2. It took zero seconds. Are they lazy - how keen is their interest - are they going to be able to send any sort of meaningful replies - have they sent a hundred ‘hi’ messages out hoping at least one person replies?; etc. 3. I already know I need to fast forward through the several ongoing layers of guff that will come otherwise. “Wuu2” etc. I will often try to force the issue with a “Hello. How can I help?” Or “Why are you messaging me?” 4. That is why some people default to saying they will not bother to reply to one word messages or ‘hi’ etc. They have enough experience of 1, 2, 3 above. 5. If I get a rather feeble opening message from someone who looks eminently fuckable and whose profile looks interesting, the weakness of their opening gambit is easily forgiven. This is called human nature. If I get a rather feeble opener from someone who has no pictures and no info on their profile, I’m already feeling unimpressed. I’m not going to fall over myself to find out if they are hiding their light under a bushel. This is called human nature. " Id prefer just a “hi” than that message haha. We are all different ![]() | |||
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"Some guys on here say they delete messages with just 'hi' in them. Why? It's an ice-breaker. You don't want to go to the trouble of writing a long message if it is just to be ignored! Also, you wouldn't go up to a stranger in a bar and let them know in detail what you're after. You would start with an ice-breaker. Like 'hi'..." But a conversation in a bar would not go: Hi Hi (One day of silence) Hi It would be more like: Hi Hi I like your jacket / did I see you here last week? / I like the way you look / Can I get you a drink? But often the online exchange is the usual tired ping pong of pointless words. Not always though as it always depends on the other man. Writing “Hi, I like your profile” is no more effort than writing “Hi” and if that’s too much then I wouldn’t want a chat. | |||
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"Some guys on here say they delete messages with just 'hi' in them. Why? It's an ice-breaker. You don't want to go to the trouble of writing a long message if it is just to be ignored! Also, you wouldn't go up to a stranger in a bar and let them know in detail what you're after. You would start with an ice-breaker. Like 'hi'... But a conversation in a bar would not go: Hi Hi (One day of silence) Hi It would be more like: Hi Hi I like your jacket / did I see you here last week? / I like the way you look / Can I get you a drink? But often the online exchange is the usual tired ping pong of pointless words. Not always though as it always depends on the other man. Writing “Hi, I like your profile” is no more effort than writing “Hi” and if that’s too much then I wouldn’t want a chat. " Totally agree ... A simple 'Hi' signals a) you have not read anything about me so don't know what to say, b) it is one of dozens you have chucked out today/this moment | |||
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"I find an opening comment like ‘fancy a fuck?’ Or ‘meet me now’ too blunt and pushy. I didn’t realise how contentious meeting people could be until I read this thread. So many made up rules! " You see I don’t have a problem with a pushy opening that at least suggests they know what they want. “Fancy a fuck?” - would likely get a “Always. But with whom? Let’s see your pictures and know more” type response. It scores a 3 or 4. It suggests a bit of up-for-it attitude. From a younger lad I can find that spunkiness quite beguiling. But “hi”. It scores zero. It gives me ZERO to work with. Feeble. Inane. | |||
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"The immortal words of a woman called Shania spring to mind... " What - “Man… I feel like a woman”..?! Richey! What haven’t you been telling us…. | |||
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"I'm sure that some of them cut and paste a "hi" if they're sending out multiple messages. ![]() That’s genuinely made me hoot! 🤣 | |||
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"Treat it as a red flag. People who are offended by people only saying hi are people to avoid. If somebody is demanding and needy BEFORE meeting, what is it going to be like AFTER meeting them?" I agree with this. If someone makes the effort to reach out to you, using the widely used introductory term, and somehow it causes you offence, then take that broomstick out of your arse. | |||
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" … If someone makes the effort to reach out to you… " We’ll have to agree to disagree on sending out a pointless “hi” message as “making an effort” and “reaching out to you”… To me that’s exactly what it is NOT doing. It makes no effort and provides no attempt to try to reach out. | |||
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"Some guys on here say they delete messages with just 'hi' in them. Why? It's an ice-breaker. You don't want to go to the trouble of writing a long message if it is just to be ignored! Also, you wouldn't go up to a stranger in a bar and let them know in detail what you're after. You would start with an ice-breaker. Like 'hi'..." Nothing wrong with hi, so long as you don’t feel you are owed a reply. | |||
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"Treat it as a red flag" I do then press delete | |||
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"Treat it as a red flag. People who are offended by people only saying hi are people to avoid. If somebody is demanding and needy BEFORE meeting, what is it going to be like AFTER meeting them?" EXCELLENT, though inaccurate, approach: I'd be grateful if those who think it's "demanding and needy" to ignore "Hi/hi" messages end up avoiding my profile altogether 🙏👍 BTW; not offended, just indifferent, usually, but not always, depending on mood/time of day, battery level, … 😴 🫥 | |||
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"Treat it as a red flag. People who are offended by people only saying hi are people to avoid. If somebody is demanding and needy BEFORE meeting, what is it going to be like AFTER meeting them?" I am not offended in slightest by those sending just hi. I am indifferent to such messages. If it comes from profile without a pic I’ll delete without looking into profile. Red flag are these who expect and demand reply from a stranger to a meaningless message. | |||
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"A journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step,(Confucius)and a conversation likewise with a single word ,Hi is fine x" Confucius never got to spend much time on FabGuys. If he had, I think even his patient harmony would have been quite strained. And furthermore Confucianism is supposed to be founded on the notion of properly observed rituals and properly observed social etiquette being the mechanisms to maintain order and demonstrate your respect to your peers. Confucius would have thought an anonymous, impersonal, anodyne “hi” message very poor etiquette. | |||
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"A journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step,(Confucius)and a conversation likewise with a single word ,Hi is fine x Confucius never got to spend much time on FabGuys. If he had, I think even his patient harmony would have been quite strained. And furthermore Confucianism is supposed to be founded on the notion of properly observed rituals and properly observed social etiquette being the mechanisms to maintain order and demonstrate your respect to your peers. Confucius would have thought an anonymous, impersonal, anodyne “hi” message very poor etiquette. " Wow! Impressive. I never would have believed I would see a lecture on Confucianism on a gay hook up site. Genuinely surprised. | |||
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" … Wow! Impressive. I never would have believed I would see a lecture on Confucianism on a gay hook up site. Genuinely surprised… " Oh, we’re a motley crew in the Forum… from fashion tips to philosophical tropes… political commentary from left and right… | |||
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"A journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step,(Confucius)and a conversation likewise with a single word ,Hi is fine x Confucius never got to spend much time on FabGuys. If he had, I think even his patient harmony would have been quite strained. And furthermore Confucianism is supposed to be founded on the notion of properly observed rituals and properly observed social etiquette being the mechanisms to maintain order and demonstrate your respect to your peers. Confucius would have thought an anonymous, impersonal, anodyne “hi” message very poor etiquette. " did he tell you that ?or is that your assumption, as I fail to see how you could possibly know what he would say. | |||
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"A journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step,(Confucius)and a conversation likewise with a single word ,Hi is fine x Confucius never got to spend much time on FabGuys. If he had, I think even his patient harmony would have been quite strained. And furthermore Confucianism is supposed to be founded on the notion of properly observed rituals and properly observed social etiquette being the mechanisms to maintain order and demonstrate your respect to your peers. Confucius would have thought an anonymous, impersonal, anodyne “hi” message very poor etiquette. did he tell you that ?or is that your assumption, as I fail to see how you could possibly know what he would say. " Yes, Confucius and I chat all the time. You wouldn’t want to get him on to the subject of trans issues however. Disharmonious and disturbing of the patriarchy. The only third sex he understands is eunuchism. | |||
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"Hi is a simple way to get someone's attention. That person will take a loom at your profile to see if he likes you. The rest follows suit. " Sometimes …. | |||
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"Who would have thought that a little word like "hi" could, in some cases, be loaded with so much meaning! It makes me fear for my life when I go out in the day!" Don't go out in the day: stay in and compile the first Fabguys Dicktionary? ![]() | |||
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"Nothing wrong with a ‘hi’ it’s a start " You only get one chance to make a first impression, and sending one word consisting of two letters isn't likely to create a good one. Surely it's a chance to sell yourself, and/or offer a praiseworthy comment to the recipient. Just saying 'hi' indicates that you can't be bothered to make even the smallest effort. | |||
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"I don't mind "Hi" as an opening message, it's when I respond with something like "Hi, how's it going?" and their response is "ok" - that's when I tap out. " Lol. A hi followed by a hi how's it going. Amazing. | |||
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