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"This is a new Labour initiative. It's tempting if you have a couple of places to rent, and will probably offer a guarantee of income to the landlord. But is it going to distort the rental market? " Rent away mate if you want your property wrecked!! | |||
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"Should we not be getting them on planes and flying them back to their own country until they have been accepted. I wouldn't mind so much i we didn't have homeless British people living on the streets. If all our own people were housed and homelessness didn't exist in England anymore fine. But while we have our own on the streets we shouldn't be housing the migrants " I don't think it's a great solution, but I also think keeping these people in hotels is creating a future problem, with a lot of disgruntled guests. | |||
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"Rent fields, give them tents to live in until they are processed and if they don't have the relevant paperwork to prove who they are or the qualifications to get a good job to support themselves here then take them back to the beach they arrived on and tell them to get back in their dinghy and go elsewhere. " Agree 100% | |||
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"Should we not be getting them on planes and flying them back to their own country until they have been accepted. I wouldn't mind so much i we didn't have homeless British people living on the streets. If all our own people were housed and homelessness didn't exist in England anymore fine. But while we have our own on the streets we shouldn't be housing the migrants " I don’t think EasyJet fly to Kabul or Damascus. | |||
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"Rent fields, give them tents to live in until they are processed and if they don't have the relevant paperwork to prove who they are or the qualifications to get a good job to support themselves here then take them back to the beach they arrived on and tell them to get back in their dinghy and go elsewhere. " You used to be one of the left wing mafia on here...what happened? | |||
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"Rent fields, give them tents to live in until they are processed and if they don't have the relevant paperwork to prove who they are or the qualifications to get a good job to support themselves here then take them back to the beach they arrived on and tell them to get back in their dinghy and go elsewhere. " Exactly, we have our own homeless that are not being dealt with . . . . | |||
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"This is a new Labour initiative. It's tempting if you have a couple of places to rent, and will probably offer a guarantee of income to the landlord. But is it going to distort the rental market? Rent away mate if you want your property wrecked!!" Total prejudice there! | |||
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"This is a new Labour initiative. It's tempting if you have a couple of places to rent, and will probably offer a guarantee of income to the landlord. But is it going to distort the rental market? Rent away mate if you want your property wrecked!! Total prejudice there!" Prejudice maybe, but experience has sadly shown that rented properties often get trashed, it's a big problem in the property rental market and the problem extends way beyond those properties rented to migrants. | |||
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"Here in Bristol, the refugee rights charity has an LGBT project for asylum seekers who tick that box. A few years ago the city council appealed to residents to consider putting up applicants for a maximum stay of three months. I did think about offering my spare room to one on the LGBT spectrum. But I came to the conclusion I liked my own space too much and wasn’t sure I could cope with a lodger. A lot of these people state that they are gay as part of their plan to stay here. They know full well that if they claim to be gay and they come from an Islamic country they would be persecuted where they to be deported. The powers that be fall for it every time. So even if you did allow one to be your lodger, you might well find yourself decapitated for offending his sensibilties! | |||
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"This is a new Labour initiative. It's tempting if you have a couple of places to rent, and will probably offer a guarantee of income to the landlord. But is it going to distort the rental market? Rent away mate if you want your property wrecked!! Total prejudice there!" Absolutely and gutted to see such a comment . We are white and we are above them .. see if you know the multiplication by heart before you say that nonesense , you can dream to be better than me I would say .. come to me for an iq test let’s do it together .. see what you have in your brain . Imagine they could stay at their home if the west army didn’t put his dirty finger in that area make them homeless to bet for a shitty flat from stupid people . | |||
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"Rent fields, give them tents to live in until they are processed and if they don't have the relevant paperwork to prove who they are or the qualifications to get a good job to support themselves here then take them back to the beach they arrived on and tell them to get back in their dinghy and go elsewhere. " May be eat one steak less a day as it is much healthier | |||
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"Rent fields, give them tents to live in until they are processed and if they don't have the relevant paperwork to prove who they are or the qualifications to get a good job to support themselves here then take them back to the beach they arrived on and tell them to get back in their dinghy and go elsewhere. Agree 100%" I also agree 100% | |||
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"Here in Bristol, the refugee rights charity has an LGBT project for asylum seekers who tick that box. A few years ago the city council appealed to residents to consider putting up applicants for a maximum stay of three months. I did think about offering my spare room to one on the LGBT spectrum. But I came to the conclusion I liked my own space too much and wasn’t sure I could cope with a lodger. Really? The numbers are about 2 or 3% of all applicants, so your claim is false. It's a double-whammy being LGBT and an asylum-seeker. Shunned by the community for being an asylum-seeker, and shunned by other asylum-seekers for being LGBT. It takes a particularly cruel kind of prejudice to smear people seeking to make a new life for themselves as murderers. | |||
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"Should we not be getting them on planes and flying them back to their own country until they have been accepted. I wouldn't mind so much i we didn't have homeless British people living on the streets. If all our own people were housed and homelessness didn't exist in England anymore fine. But while we have our own on the streets we shouldn't be housing the migrants " Exactly 💯 | |||
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"We shouldn't be encouraging more to come by giving them handouts, send them back, the more who are given free accomodation and benefits , the more will see it as a haven. most migrants are young men , not people beneficial to our economy. More migrants means more crime and depravation. We should be like Australia." Why aren't young men potentially beneficial to our economy? | |||
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"Rent fields, give them tents to live in until they are processed and if they don't have the relevant paperwork to prove who they are or the qualifications to get a good job to support themselves here then take them back to the beach they arrived on and tell them to get back in their dinghy and go elsewhere. Exactly, we have our own homeless that are not being dealt with . . . . " That is totally nonsense .. all of homeless people who are sleeping in the street can move to a temporary accommodation if they want to. They are all in priority . 80 percent of them prefer to sleep outside and don’t move into accommodations. | |||
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"Should we not be getting them on planes and flying them back to their own country until they have been accepted. I wouldn't mind so much i we didn't have homeless British people living on the streets. If all our own people were housed and homelessness didn't exist in England anymore fine. But while we have our own on the streets we shouldn't be housing the migrants Exactly 💯 No won’t happen . Against the law and no one on here is above the law . They can dream of it | |||
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"This is a new Labour initiative. It's tempting if you have a couple of places to rent, and will probably offer a guarantee of income to the landlord. But is it going to distort the rental market? Rent away mate if you want your property wrecked!! Total prejudice there!" Quite possibly, but maybe it's just being realistic? Would you join up to this scheme if you had a suitable property? | |||
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"Should we not be getting them on planes and flying them back to their own country until they have been accepted. I wouldn't mind so much i we didn't have homeless British people living on the streets. If all our own people were housed and homelessness didn't exist in England anymore fine. But while we have our own on the streets we shouldn't be housing the migrants I don’t think EasyJet fly to Kabul or Damascus. " Then they should be flown to the closest airports to their own country. we need to put our own first. | |||
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"Here in Bristol, the refugee rights charity has an LGBT project for asylum seekers who tick that box. A few years ago the city council appealed to residents to consider putting up applicants for a maximum stay of three months. I did think about offering my spare room to one on the LGBT spectrum. But I came to the conclusion I liked my own space too much and wasn’t sure I could cope with a lodger. Make them prove they are gay. | |||
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"Should we not be getting them on planes and flying them back to their own country until they have been accepted. I wouldn't mind so much i we didn't have homeless British people living on the streets. If all our own people were housed and homelessness didn't exist in England anymore fine. But while we have our own on the streets we shouldn't be housing the migrants I don’t think EasyJet fly to Kabul or Damascus. Then they should be flown to the closest airports to their own country. we need to put our own first. " I do not think you understand how deportation works at all. It requires government-to-government agreement to return people to the country of their nationality. Even your idea of dropping them in a third country requires the agreement of that third country. Without that agreement, no plane is allowed to land. | |||
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"Here in Bristol, the refugee rights charity has an LGBT project for asylum seekers who tick that box. A few years ago the city council appealed to residents to consider putting up applicants for a maximum stay of three months. I did think about offering my spare room to one on the LGBT spectrum. But I came to the conclusion I liked my own space too much and wasn’t sure I could cope with a lodger. I think Mr Jevo has already signed up for that scheme! | |||
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"Well I don't think hotels are suitable long term accommodation. I've done it for a few months, never mind years." I here that where most of them came from,FRANCE, is very nice this time of year | |||
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"Should we not be getting them on planes and flying them back to their own country until they have been accepted. I wouldn't mind so much i we didn't have homeless British people living on the streets. If all our own people were housed and homelessness didn't exist in England anymore fine. But while we have our own on the streets we shouldn't be housing the migrants I don’t think EasyJet fly to Kabul or Damascus. Then they should be flown to the closest airports to their own country. we need to put our own first. I do not think you understand how deportation works at all. It requires government-to-government agreement to return people to the country of their nationality. Even your idea of dropping them in a third country requires the agreement of that third country. Without that agreement, no plane is allowed to land. " well maybe the way deportations are done needs to be looked at. We should not need permission from any country to deport what we don't want here. It's our country so nobody can tell us we can't deport the illegals. As for the planes landing with permission. If we don't get the permission we simply strap the illegal immigrants to parachutes and drop them out of the plane. Sara you just think about sex when it comes to the immigrants as you have proven in so many cases. Why would you care more about an immigrant than you would a British mum and kids who are homeless? Every time we give the illegals somewhere to stay we have given up a place that could have gone to a British person escaping dv | |||
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"Should we not be getting them on planes and flying them back to their own country until they have been accepted. I wouldn't mind so much i we didn't have homeless British people living on the streets. If all our own people were housed and homelessness didn't exist in England anymore fine. But while we have our own on the streets we shouldn't be housing the migrants I don’t think EasyJet fly to Kabul or Damascus. Then they should be flown to the closest airports to their own country. we need to put our own first. I do not think you understand how deportation works at all. It requires government-to-government agreement to return people to the country of their nationality. Even your idea of dropping them in a third country requires the agreement of that third country. Without that agreement, no plane is allowed to land. well maybe the way deportations are done needs to be looked at. We should not need permission from any country to deport what we don't want here. It's our country so nobody can tell us we can't deport the illegals. As for the planes landing with permission. If we don't get the permission we simply strap the illegal immigrants to parachutes and drop them out of the plane. Sara you just think about sex when it comes to the immigrants as you have proven in so many cases. Why would you care more about an immigrant than you would a British mum and kids who are homeless? Every time we give the illegals somewhere to stay we have given up a place that could have gone to a British person escaping dv" You'll have to change the laws of country first - the state is not permitted to murder people | |||
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"Yes, If I was a young British person desperately trying to find a place to stay, I might be pissed off at the impression my government is taking more care of foreign people in need of a home than me." 100% This sounds like a scheme that will give us the same issues Spain has with holiday homes pushing up purchase and rental prices Wonder when this country puts up the sorry we are full sign as if it doesn’t the cost of living crisis will never end imo | |||
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"Should we not be getting them on planes and flying them back to their own country until they have been accepted. I wouldn't mind so much i we didn't have homeless British people living on the streets. If all our own people were housed and homelessness didn't exist in England anymore fine. But while we have our own on the streets we shouldn't be housing the migrants I don’t think EasyJet fly to Kabul or Damascus. Then they should be flown to the closest airports to their own country. we need to put our own first. I do not think you understand how deportation works at all. It requires government-to-government agreement to return people to the country of their nationality. Even your idea of dropping them in a third country requires the agreement of that third country. Without that agreement, no plane is allowed to land. well maybe the way deportations are done needs to be looked at. We should not need permission from any country to deport what we don't want here. It's our country so nobody can tell us we can't deport the illegals. As for the planes landing with permission. If we don't get the permission we simply strap the illegal immigrants to parachutes and drop them out of the plane. Sara you just think about sex when it comes to the immigrants as you have proven in so many cases. Why would you care more about an immigrant than you would a British mum and kids who are homeless? Every time we give the illegals somewhere to stay we have given up a place that could have gone to a British person escaping dv" Are you suggesting that one can commit murder and remain unpunished? I have encountered numerous racists, yet they do not express themselves in such a manner. | |||
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"Who is going to foot the bill to repair the rented house after they have gone they won't be having one off me no matter how much they offer. sorry go home where they came from is all I can say " You are not exempt from the law, everyone remains within their designated boundaries until instructed otherwise.sorry | |||
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"Should we not be getting them on planes and flying them back to their own country until they have been accepted. I wouldn't mind so much i we didn't have homeless British people living on the streets. If all our own people were housed and homelessness didn't exist in England anymore fine. But while we have our own on the streets we shouldn't be housing the migrants I don’t think EasyJet fly to Kabul or Damascus. Then they should be flown to the closest airports to their own country. we need to put our own first. I do not think you understand how deportation works at all. It requires government-to-government agreement to return people to the country of their nationality. Even your idea of dropping them in a third country requires the agreement of that third country. Without that agreement, no plane is allowed to land. well maybe the way deportations are done needs to be looked at. We should not need permission from any country to deport what we don't want here. It's our country so nobody can tell us we can't deport the illegals. As for the planes landing with permission. If we don't get the permission we simply strap the illegal immigrants to parachutes and drop them out of the plane. Sara you just think about sex when it comes to the immigrants as you have proven in so many cases. Why would you care more about an immigrant than you would a British mum and kids who are homeless? Every time we give the illegals somewhere to stay we have given up a place that could have gone to a British person escaping dv You'll have to change the laws of country first - the state is not permitted to murder people" It's not murder you have given them a parachute. | |||
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"Should we not be getting them on planes and flying them back to their own country until they have been accepted. I wouldn't mind so much i we didn't have homeless British people living on the streets. If all our own people were housed and homelessness didn't exist in England anymore fine. But while we have our own on the streets we shouldn't be housing the migrants I don’t think EasyJet fly to Kabul or Damascus. Then they should be flown to the closest airports to their own country. we need to put our own first. I do not think you understand how deportation works at all. It requires government-to-government agreement to return people to the country of their nationality. Even your idea of dropping them in a third country requires the agreement of that third country. Without that agreement, no plane is allowed to land. well maybe the way deportations are done needs to be looked at. We should not need permission from any country to deport what we don't want here. It's our country so nobody can tell us we can't deport the illegals. As for the planes landing with permission. If we don't get the permission we simply strap the illegal immigrants to parachutes and drop them out of the plane. Sara you just think about sex when it comes to the immigrants as you have proven in so many cases. Why would you care more about an immigrant than you would a British mum and kids who are homeless? Every time we give the illegals somewhere to stay we have given up a place that could have gone to a British person escaping dv Are you suggesting that one can commit murder and remain unpunished? I have encountered numerous racists, yet they do not express themselves in such a manner." Where have I suggested murder. I've said to give them parachutes and throw them out the plane. Parachutes would save their lives. I'm suggesting stop all migration into the country until we have no homeless brits | |||
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"This is a new Labour initiative. It's tempting if you have a couple of places to rent, and will probably offer a guarantee of income to the landlord. But is it going to distort the rental market? Rent away mate if you want your property wrecked!! Total prejudice there!" Not at all. A lot of rental properties get wrecked. My mate's was even used as a cann abis factory whilst he was working in the states. Had to put new ceiling in all across the first floor. As for migrants hotels, I know a guy who does maintenance for two by me and he said they are both slowly getting destroyed. I know only two but I bet there's plenty more that are getting wrecked. | |||
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" Where have I suggested murder. I've said to give them parachutes and throw them out the plane. Parachutes would save their lives. I'm suggesting stop all migration into the country until we have no homeless brits" Have you considered putting yourself on the waiting list for an empathy transplant? | |||
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"Your willingness to inflict untold and fatal cruelty on other human beings is deeply troubling." Your willingness to accept them into Britain for your desires is more concerning. You show a lack of regard for your own country and it's citizens. You would rather have these immigrants come over who a lot of the time they are against the LGBTQ community as well as the British values. | |||
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" Where have I suggested murder. I've said to give them parachutes and throw them out the plane. Parachutes would save their lives. I'm suggesting stop all migration into the country until we have no homeless brits Have you considered putting yourself on the waiting list for an empathy transplant?" Not needed lol I have empathy for those who do things the right way. Not those that come over here illegally | |||
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"Should we not be getting them on planes and flying them back to their own country until they have been accepted. I wouldn't mind so much i we didn't have homeless British people living on the streets. If all our own people were housed and homelessness didn't exist in England anymore fine. But while we have our own on the streets we shouldn't be housing the migrants I don’t think EasyJet fly to Kabul or Damascus. Then they should be flown to the closest airports to their own country. we need to put our own first. I do not think you understand how deportation works at all. It requires government-to-government agreement to return people to the country of their nationality. Even your idea of dropping them in a third country requires the agreement of that third country. Without that agreement, no plane is allowed to land. well maybe the way deportations are done needs to be looked at. We should not need permission from any country to deport what we don't want here. It's our country so nobody can tell us we can't deport the illegals. As for the planes landing with permission. If we don't get the permission we simply strap the illegal immigrants to parachutes and drop them out of the plane. Sara you just think about sex when it comes to the immigrants as you have proven in so many cases. Why would you care more about an immigrant than you would a British mum and kids who are homeless? Every time we give the illegals somewhere to stay we have given up a place that could have gone to a British person escaping dv Are you suggesting that one can commit murder and remain unpunished? I have encountered numerous racists, yet they do not express themselves in such a manner. Where have I suggested murder. I've said to give them parachutes and throw them out the plane. Parachutes would save their lives. I'm suggesting stop all migration into the country until we have no homeless brits" I would promptly remove you from this forum if I were admin. You are fortunate to still have the privilege of participating in discussions here. Please leave and do not attempt to contact me again | |||
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" Where have I suggested murder. I've said to give them parachutes and throw them out the plane. Parachutes would save their lives. I'm suggesting stop all migration into the country until we have no homeless brits Have you considered putting yourself on the waiting list for an empathy transplant?" Somehow, Sara, despite our good intentions, I think this may well be a completely inappropriate place to discuss such a highly complex and emotive issue, especially given the evident total lack of empathy and understanding among many respondents. | |||
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" Where have I suggested murder. I've said to give them parachutes and throw them out the plane. Parachutes would save their lives. I'm suggesting stop all migration into the country until we have no homeless brits Have you considered putting yourself on the waiting list for an empathy transplant? Not needed lol I have empathy for those who do things the right way. Not those that come over here illegally " What has happened to you that made you lose all sense of humanity? Your willingness to inflict cruelty on other human beings is deeply worrying. | |||
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"Should we not be getting them on planes and flying them back to their own country until they have been accepted. I wouldn't mind so much i we didn't have homeless British people living on the streets. If all our own people were housed and homelessness didn't exist in England anymore fine. But while we have our own on the streets we shouldn't be housing the migrants " It's not the refugees fault that our country doesn't house the homeless How many of "our own" have you put up? | |||
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"This is a new Labour initiative. It's tempting if you have a couple of places to rent, and will probably offer a guarantee of income to the landlord. But is it going to distort the rental market? Rent away mate if you want your property wrecked!! Total prejudice there! Not at all. A lot of rental properties get wrecked. My mate's was even used as a cann abis factory whilst he was working in the states. Had to put new ceiling in all across the first floor. As for migrants hotels, I know a guy who does maintenance for two by me and he said they are both slowly getting destroyed. I know only two but I bet there's plenty more that are getting wrecked. " This risk should be known by the government and they should underwrite for damage or refurb. In theory, private rental is much cheaper than hotels. My initial post was not about the issue of migrants, but the most cost effective way of dealing with the issue we have right now. I think the costs will be high, but we already know that. | |||
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"We shouldn't be encouraging more to come by giving them handouts, send them back, the more who are given free accomodation and benefits , the more will see it as a haven. most migrants are young men , not people beneficial to our economy. More migrants means more crime and depravation. We should be like Australia. Why aren't young men potentially beneficial to our economy?" If they have sorted out accommodation and jobs for themselves when they arrived then, fair enough, they could be a great asset to this country. However just turning up on our shores and expecting the government to house them, feed them, clothe them, provide them with pocket money etc. is hardly beneficial to the economy. In fact it is a headache and a serious drain on taxpayers money. We don't know if they have any skills or even have any work ethics. | |||
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" Where have I suggested murder. I've said to give them parachutes and throw them out the plane. Parachutes would save their lives. I'm suggesting stop all migration into the country until we have no homeless brits Have you considered putting yourself on the waiting list for an empathy transplant? Not needed lol I have empathy for those who do things the right way. Not those that come over here illegally What has happened to you that made you lose all sense of humanity? Your willingness to inflict cruelty on other human beings is deeply worrying." And your lack of interest in helping our own before we help others is more worrying | |||
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"Should we not be getting them on planes and flying them back to their own country until they have been accepted. I wouldn't mind so much i we didn't have homeless British people living on the streets. If all our own people were housed and homelessness didn't exist in England anymore fine. But while we have our own on the streets we shouldn't be housing the migrants It's not the refugees fault that our country doesn't house the homeless How many of "our own" have you put up? " Over the years I've put up several homeless Brits and all of them managed to get into hostels and moved on to their own places after. | |||
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" Where have I suggested murder. I've said to give them parachutes and throw them out the plane. Parachutes would save their lives. I'm suggesting stop all migration into the country until we have no homeless brits Have you considered putting yourself on the waiting list for an empathy transplant? Not needed lol I have empathy for those who do things the right way. Not those that come over here illegally What has happened to you that made you lose all sense of humanity? Your willingness to inflict cruelty on other human beings is deeply worrying." The inability of the government to persuade the people that they have this situation under control is only going to push more people down the radical route imo. I think private rental is a pragmatic response but it will come at a cost. People should know about that cost, in terms of the effect on the rental market. | |||
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" And your lack of interest in helping our own before we help others is more worrying " What evidence do you have that I don't "help our own"? You know absolutely nothing about me. Classic straw man tactic. | |||
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" And your lack of interest in helping our own before we help others is more worrying What evidence do you have that I don't "help our own"? You know absolutely nothing about me. Classic straw man tactic." Much in the same way you know nothing about me. I agree with immigration if it is done the right way. Not on the small boats. And not in the numbers we have been taking them. I also don't understand why they get a place the moment they get here yet we have homeless British on the street for years. | |||
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"Surely it’s far cheaper to fly them back to the country of origin ! If the 2 million illegal immigrants are removed there would be no shortage of housing 89% of illegal immigrants are on benefits whilst 78% cannot speak English How can they integrate We have food banks they get free food plus benefits and free mobiles " Where did you get these alternative facts from Reform or EDL ? | |||
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"Surely it’s far cheaper to fly them back to the country of origin ! If the 2 million illegal immigrants are removed there would be no shortage of housing 89% of illegal immigrants are on benefits whilst 78% cannot speak English How can they integrate We have food banks they get free food plus benefits and free mobiles Where did you get these alternative facts from Reform or EDL ? " .... ... Spoon-fed by Katie Hopkins. Sadly there is no changing the mindset of these people. | |||
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" I have a lochside property that I currently rent out as a holiday accommodation, it i managed by an agency which takes a lot of the hassle out of it. Would I rent it to so-called 'asylum seekers' ? Absolutely not, it would be trashed and I would probably end up having to evict them to get them out. It' a no from me." It's no different from a landlord who says "No DSS" or whatever in their rental advert, I guess. | |||
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"We shouldn't be encouraging more to come by giving them handouts, send them back, the more who are given free accomodation and benefits , the more will see it as a haven. most migrants are young men , not people beneficial to our economy. More migrants means more crime and depravation. We should be like Australia. Why aren't young men potentially beneficial to our economy?" Generally they are sucking out mire than they put in and when they get money it gets shipped back to families That's the trouble the dollar had pre world war two and America was buying up gold to support the dollar. The more printed notes go abroad the more you have to print for the domestic market. So more notes in circulation means more gold needed in reserve. Don't forget printed money is only a promissory note! | |||
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"We shouldn't be encouraging more to come by giving them handouts, send them back, the more who are given free accomodation and benefits , the more will see it as a haven. most migrants are young men , not people beneficial to our economy. More migrants means more crime and depravation. We should be like Australia. Why aren't young men potentially beneficial to our economy? If they have sorted out accommodation and jobs for themselves when they arrived then, fair enough, they could be a great asset to this country. However just turning up on our shores and expecting the government to house them, feed them, clothe them, provide them with pocket money etc. is hardly beneficial to the economy. In fact it is a headache and a serious drain on taxpayers money. We don't know if they have any skills or even have any work ethics. " Many/most want to work but aren't allowed. Migrants are net contributors to the economy There are not even safe legal routes so how do you think it's possible for them to sort jobs and accommodation?? Maybe do some research before spouting off tired incorrect tropes! | |||
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"Rent fields, give them tents to live in until they are processed and if they don't have the relevant paperwork to prove who they are or the qualifications to get a good job to support themselves here then take them back to the beach they arrived on and tell them to get back in their dinghy and go elsewhere. Exactly, we have our own homeless that are not being dealt with . . . . " Yes until there isn't a single homeless veteran on our street then we aren't in a position to help foreigners. | |||
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"Rent fields, give them tents to live in until they are processed and if they don't have the relevant paperwork to prove who they are or the qualifications to get a good job to support themselves here then take them back to the beach they arrived on and tell them to get back in their dinghy and go elsewhere. Exactly, we have our own homeless that are not being dealt with . . . . Yes until there isn't a single homeless veteran on our street then we aren't in a position to help foreigners." .... .... Yet you voted to do so fully aware of the existence of ex-army fellas sleeping rough. | |||
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"Yes until there isn't a single homeless veteran on our street then we aren't in a position to help foreigners." Why don't you, and all the other dullards trotting this out, lobby your politicians, government and the armed forces who used them then left them to the streets?? Both groups can and should be helped. You're doing the divide and rule job for those in charge for free whilst they get away with blaming "foreigners" Punch up not down | |||
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"What's to guarantee that you'll get your property back in one piece? Especially your garden if you have one? " I believe the contract includes a full maintenance repair and reinstatement guarantee. A lot of fairly run-down hotels have actually been improved at tax-payers expense via similar schemes to rent hotel rooms. | |||
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"I have 3 flats I let out. I’d rather let to immigrants and get the guaranteed income. You should see the state some uk tenants leave the flats. Couldn’t be worse. " I've been lucky although I did have to redecorate after one tenant left [his bizarre colour scheme and murals] I know some home grown tenant leave rented property in an appalling state. I also know of one quite smart 3star hotel that was used to house immigrants. They trashed the place and it now stands empty and very dilapidated. | |||
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"So those happy to rent out to the government scheme are saying to the immigrants come in in I'll welcome you? " I think you are reading too much into this. A commercial provider of rental properties will look at this through the lens of risk and reward - the risk to their property (and perhaps reputation), versus the reward of how much they can coin in from the state. | |||
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"We are just encouraging more slum landlords , who keep their tenants in appalling conditions , while taking as much money as they can. " What if the assessment for acceptance into the UK included a review of how well they kept the rental place? It's the same with hotels. If certain migrants wreck a hotel are they really going to be good citizens? We should aim for best standards, not the worst. | |||
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"Hilarious, why does anyone in their right mind who is not a bigot or racist believe that just because people from a foreign land and different culture will automatically wreck the living accommodation they are given to shelter in and begin a new life in safety. Some people should remember their own experiences of being different sexually from the majority and the risks they have run. Pathetic, instead of shoving them out of aeroplanes with parachutes why not give peace a chance and get to the root of why they are displaced from their homeland and resolve that, or is there no profits to be made. Mx 🌺 " A lot of the military accommodation that was left when they vacated was handed over to migrants. It was destroyed, burned and had to be demolished. | |||
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"This is nonsense. If they treated everyone equally it would solve a lot of the problems, but by having different groups and parameters there is an impression of preferential treatment along side the clear graft on the part of the hotel trade. And Lloyd Bank, Mountview, Grainger and others with thousands of properties, then what? I think many people are jealous that their life decisions do not allow them to be in a place where they rent out properties. Dormitory accomodation owned by the council is the way forward. Equally council housing lists would be a lot shorter if the government stopped corporate speculation on the housing market. You have three properties to pray for retirement , that's fine, you have twenty? Your a speculator and should be taxed out of the market. " | |||
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"Hilarious, why does anyone in their right mind who is not a bigot or racist believe that just because people from a foreign land and different culture will automatically wreck the living accommodation they are given to shelter in and begin a new life in safety. Some people should remember their own experiences of being different sexually from the majority and the risks they have run. Pathetic, instead of shoving them out of aeroplanes with parachutes why not give peace a chance and get to the root of why they are displaced from their homeland and resolve that, or is there no profits to be made. Mx 🌺 " The majority of these people are single makes from male-dominated societies where men do nothing and the women and kids do all of the graft. Single men would be incapable of looking after themselves much less a living space which is why, in all probability, many of these proposed properties would soon degenerate into shitholes. They would have no regard or respect for fitting and fixtures and would expect anything and everything to be done for them, as it most probably will be. I have seen how FCO funded charities have worked in some of the countries these people have come from and know the mindset of the people running them. They seem to have the same outlook as the cretins running our Government at present. | |||
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"Hilarious, why does anyone in their right mind who is not a bigot or racist believe that just because people from a foreign land and different culture will automatically wreck the living accommodation they are given to shelter in and begin a new life in safety. Some people should remember their own experiences of being different sexually from the majority and the risks they have run. Pathetic, instead of shoving them out of aeroplanes with parachutes why not give peace a chance and get to the root of why they are displaced from their homeland and resolve that, or is there no profits to be made. Mx 🌺 A lot of the military accommodation that was left when they vacated was handed over to migrants. It was destroyed, burned and had to be demolished. " It's just cultural enrichment. We're better for it. | |||
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"We should do what Poland does. Basically you get told to fuck.off They let no.ome in" That’s because they built a fence to stop anyone setting foot on their soil. A fence won’t work in the English Channel. Also, they were the front line of Putin’s attempt to weaponise migration - he was transporting migrants in Syria and Turkey to Belarus, and dumping them on the border with Poland. Hence the huge fences | |||
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"The help available to veterans who are homeless is spelled out in detail on the UK gov website. Additional funding was announced in November. The numbers are tiny, about 0.3% of veterans." The support by local councils for homeless veterans or those requiring a safe place because of health issues relating to service or those fleeing domestic violence (yes make and female veterans fall into this category) is zero. | |||
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"This is a new Labour initiative. It's tempting if you have a couple of places to rent, and will probably offer a guarantee of income to the landlord. But is it going to distort the rental market? Rent away mate if you want your property wrecked!! Total prejudice there! Absolutely and gutted to see such a comment . We are white and we are above them .. see if you know the multiplication by heart before you say that nonesense , you can dream to be better than me I would say .. come to me for an iq test let’s do it together .. see what you have in your brain . Imagine they could stay at their home if the west army didn’t put his dirty finger in that area make them homeless to bet for a shitty flat from stupid people ." Christ on a cracker wtf is this nonsense | |||
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"This is a new Labour initiative. It's tempting if you have a couple of places to rent, and will probably offer a guarantee of income to the landlord. But is it going to distort the rental market? Rent away mate if you want your property wrecked!! Total prejudice there! Absolutely and gutted to see such a comment . We are white and we are above them .. see if you know the multiplication by heart before you say that nonesense , you can dream to be better than me I would say .. come to me for an iq test let’s do it together .. see what you have in your brain . Imagine they could stay at their home if the west army didn’t put his dirty finger in that area make them homeless to bet for a shitty flat from stupid people . Christ on a cracker wtf is this nonsense This response is for your lack of understanding; please let me know what you do not comprehend so that I can explain it to you. | |||
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"Hilarious, why does anyone in their right mind who is not a bigot or racist believe that just because people from a foreign land and different culture will automatically wreck the living accommodation they are given to shelter in and begin a new life in safety. " Fine we cannot assume but there is a fair chance. I know of one hotel where migrants were housed. It was completely trashed. They've gone but the owners had had to give up on the idea of gutting and refurbishing the place. It now stands boarded up and empty. I also know of an ex army camp [stationed there myself in the late '70s] where they were housed and only for a short while. It was extensively damaged and left in an appalling state once by the time they left. I'm sure these are not isolated incidents. And yes I am aware that some indigenous Brits leave tenancies in appalling states. | |||
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"Hilarious, why does anyone in their right mind who is not a bigot or racist believe that just because people from a foreign land and different culture will automatically wreck the living accommodation they are given to shelter in and begin a new life in safety. Fine we cannot assume but there is a fair chance. I know of one hotel where migrants were housed. It was completely trashed. They've gone but the owners had had to give up on the idea of gutting and refurbishing the place. It now stands boarded up and empty. I also know of an ex army camp [stationed there myself in the late '70s] where they were housed and only for a short while. It was extensively damaged and left in an appalling state once by the time they left. I'm sure these are not isolated incidents. And yes I am aware that some indigenous Brits leave tenancies in appalling states." I saw pictures on TV of hotels housing asylum seekers being trashed and set on fire | |||
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"We should do what Poland does. Basically you get told to fuck.off They let no come in That’s because they built a fence to stop anyone setting foot on their soil. A fence won’t work in the English Channel. Mines might ?" So a seance. Invoke the ghost of Sir Francis Drake. He'd soon stop them. | |||
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"Hilarious, why does anyone in their right mind who is not a bigot or racist believe that just because people from a foreign land and different culture will automatically wreck the living accommodation they are given to shelter in and begin a new life in safety. Fine we cannot assume but there is a fair chance. I know of one hotel where migrants were housed. It was completely trashed. They've gone but the owners had had to give up on the idea of gutting and refurbishing the place. It now stands boarded up and empty. I also know of an ex army camp [stationed there myself in the late '70s] where they were housed and only for a short while. It was extensively damaged and left in an appalling state once by the time they left. I'm sure these are not isolated incidents. And yes I am aware that some indigenous Brits leave tenancies in appalling states. I saw pictures on TV of hotels housing asylum seekers being trashed and set on fire " I share the same sentiment; however, it appears that they prefer not to discuss the matter, likely due to their prejudiced views. What else can one anticipate? When the cameraman captured footage inside that hotel, it resembled a prison to me. I would never wish for anyone to find themselves in such establishments, which are misleadingly referred to as hotels. It is quite astonishing. | |||
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"This is a new Labour initiative. It's tempting if you have a couple of places to rent, and will probably offer a guarantee of income to the landlord. But is it going to distort the rental market? Know someone who does it and makes a fortune from letting a cottage in beautiful rural East Lothian. He was a bit worried about letting as it needed rewired and the roof leaked. No problem , the govt got people in to do both free of charge. They get free taxis to into the nearest town, North Berwick every day, they just need to lift the phone. The neighbours are furious with the noise, smell, they prefer to wee in the garden than use the toilet and rubbish everywhere. To me , this is a governance issue. Any breach of noise or hygiene etc by these tenants should result in instant disqualification of their asylum application. We don't need more riff raff we have enough already. Keep the good ones, by all means . " If they don't get deported for r@pe, can't see them getting turfed out for pissing in a garden. | |||
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"This is a new Labour initiative. It's tempting if you have a couple of places to rent, and will probably offer a guarantee of income to the landlord. But is it going to distort the rental market? Know someone who does it and makes a fortune from letting a cottage in beautiful rural East Lothian. He was a bit worried about letting as it needed rewired and the roof leaked. No problem , the govt got people in to do both free of charge. They get free taxis to into the nearest town, North Berwick every day, they just need to lift the phone. The neighbours are furious with the noise, smell, they prefer to wee in the garden than use the toilet and rubbish everywhere. To me , this is a governance issue. Any breach of noise or hygiene etc by these tenants should result in instant disqualification of their asylum application. We don't need more riff raff we have enough already. Keep the good ones, by all means . If they don't get deported for r@pe, can't see them getting turfed out for pissing in a garden. " Sadly, there will be a bunch of ambulance chasing legals all too willing to defend them because they have a cat or something. I don't care. I'd throw them out and then let them write in to complain. But I'm not a wet MP in fear of bad press | |||
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"This is a new Labour initiative. It's tempting if you have a couple of places to rent, and will probably offer a guarantee of income to the landlord. But is it going to distort the rental market? Know someone who does it and makes a fortune from letting a cottage in beautiful rural East Lothian. He was a bit worried about letting as it needed rewired and the roof leaked. No problem , the govt got people in to do both free of charge. They get free taxis to into the nearest town, North Berwick every day, they just need to lift the phone. The neighbours are furious with the noise, smell, they prefer to wee in the garden than use the toilet and rubbish everywhere. I wonder if the local cat population has declined too" No worries there. In East Lothian the stray cats mysteriously all disappear during the midsomer and wickerman festivals. | |||
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"This is a new Labour initiative. It's tempting if you have a couple of places to rent, and will probably offer a guarantee of income to the landlord. But is it going to distort the rental market? Know someone who does it and makes a fortune from letting a cottage in beautiful rural East Lothian. He was a bit worried about letting as it needed rewired and the roof leaked. No problem , the govt got people in to do both free of charge. They get free taxis to into the nearest town, North Berwick every day, they just need to lift the phone. The neighbours are furious with the noise, smell, they prefer to wee in the garden than use the toilet and rubbish everywhere. I wonder if the local cat population has declined too No worries there. In East Lothian the stray cats mysteriously all disappear during the midsomer and wickerman festivals. " They're cullin' in Gullane | |||
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"This is a new Labour initiative. It's tempting if you have a couple of places to rent, and will probably offer a guarantee of income to the landlord. But is it going to distort the rental market? Know someone who does it and makes a fortune from letting a cottage in beautiful rural East Lothian. He was a bit worried about letting as it needed rewired and the roof leaked. No problem , the govt got people in to do both free of charge. They get free taxis to into the nearest town, North Berwick every day, they just need to lift the phone. The neighbours are furious with the noise, smell, they prefer to wee in the garden than use the toilet and rubbish everywhere. One of my close friends let their place out after being offered these tenants by the local council. They could never get in to inspect the property and when they finally got the tenants out which is nigh on impossible, the tenants had removed the kitchen and bathroom, the only thing left was the toilet which had to be replaced anyway because it looked like the one used in that scene in Trainspotting. The council’s response was that my friends should just claim through their landlord’s insurance. All the carpets had to be replaced because they were stained with dogs mess despite the lease being no pets. Every room needed a full redecoration the state the place was left in was heartbreaking, the garden was full of bags of trash, it was like they hadn’t put a bag in the bin the entire time they were there they just threw them into the garden. My friends are lovely people and wanted to be helpful and welcoming and they were rewarded with heartbreak and cost. They ended up selling the house and making a loss just to get rid of it because they couldn’t face renting it out again they were utterly broken by the whole thing. It wasn’t just my friends that suffered, the neighbours had to put up with the noise and mess and smell and whenever they complained they were made out to be racist and were threatened by the tenants. My wife and I are fortunate enough to have 2 rental properties, we use a letting agent to manage them and have strict criteria on the eligibility of tenants. I for one will never allow a council tenant into one of my properties because you have no control over who is in your property and the pathway to evicting them when things go wrong is long, expensive and painful, you are bound to the council’s terms and conditions not your own. I have worked too hard for too long to watch what I have worked for be destroyed by people who don’t care. The council make it seem like it is easy money but remember what they say about if it’s too good to be true…" Yes, well said, bottom line is some, particularly those getting the rent paid by council, couldn't give a fuck about your property! Be very carful about who you rent out to! | |||
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"This is a new Labour initiative. It's tempting if you have a couple of places to rent, and will probably offer a guarantee of income to the landlord. But is it going to distort the rental market? Know someone who does it and makes a fortune from letting a cottage in beautiful rural East Lothian. He was a bit worried about letting as it needed rewired and the roof leaked. No problem , the govt got people in to do both free of charge. They get free taxis to into the nearest town, North Berwick every day, they just need to lift the phone. The neighbours are furious with the noise, smell, they prefer to wee in the garden than use the toilet and rubbish everywhere. One of my close friends let their place out after being offered these tenants by the local council. They could never get in to inspect the property and when they finally got the tenants out which is nigh on impossible, the tenants had removed the kitchen and bathroom, the only thing left was the toilet which had to be replaced anyway because it looked like the one used in that scene in Trainspotting. The council’s response was that my friends should just claim through their landlord’s insurance. All the carpets had to be replaced because they were stained with dogs mess despite the lease being no pets. Every room needed a full redecoration the state the place was left in was heartbreaking, the garden was full of bags of trash, it was like they hadn’t put a bag in the bin the entire time they were there they just threw them into the garden. My friends are lovely people and wanted to be helpful and welcoming and they were rewarded with heartbreak and cost. They ended up selling the house and making a loss just to get rid of it because they couldn’t face renting it out again they were utterly broken by the whole thing. It wasn’t just my friends that suffered, the neighbours had to put up with the noise and mess and smell and whenever they complained they were made out to be racist and were threatened by the tenants. My wife and I are fortunate enough to have 2 rental properties, we use a letting agent to manage them and have strict criteria on the eligibility of tenants. I for one will never allow a council tenant into one of my properties because you have no control over who is in your property and the pathway to evicting them when things go wrong is long, expensive and painful, you are bound to the council’s terms and conditions not your own. I have worked too hard for too long to watch what I have worked for be destroyed by people who don’t care. The council make it seem like it is easy money but remember what they say about if it’s too good to be true… . . . Yes, well said, bottom line is some, particularly those getting the rent paid by council, couldn't give a fuck about your property! Be very carful about who you rent out to!" . . .No chance in he'll would we rent our holiday home out, once their in, you will never remove them. Especially in Scotland with Scottish Parliament rules. 7 Scottish army barracks are housing 380 afghan refugees per barrack right now and my friend who inspects them says the insides of the barracks will all have to be fully gutted right back to the brick and rebuilt once they're out due to the shocking mess they have made. I said afghan because it's only afghan men being housed there, no other nationalities | |||
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"Somebody on here said, fields and tents! I go for that, you cant trash a basic tent!!" You’ve obviously never been to Glastonbury | |||
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"Somebody on here said, fields and tents! I go for that, you cant trash a basic tent!! You’ve obviously never been to Glastonbury " Ha! Good point | |||
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"Will be interesting to see if there's a sudden change in policy, if Labour get a drubbing in the elections on Thursday." Already happening. They are saying that sex offending 'asylum seekers' will be deported. | |||
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"Rent fields, give them tents to live in until they are processed and if they don't have the relevant paperwork to prove who they are or the qualifications to get a good job to support themselves here then take them back to the beach they arrived on and tell them to get back in their dinghy and go elsewhere. Agree 100% I also agree 100% I'm never wrong, I should be PM LOL! I'd do a better job than Keir Spakka 😆 | |||
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"Will be interesting to see if there's a sudden change in policy, if Labour get a drubbing in the elections on Thursday. Already happening. They are saying that sex offending 'asylum seekers' will be deported." Do we really believe these scum bags only started sex offending when they arrived? Billhooks. They probably had a history back in their home country. This is why formal migration process is needed. To vet before arrival. But it's a free for all now. | |||
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"Will be interesting to see if there's a sudden change in policy, if Labour get a drubbing in the elections on Thursday. Already happening. They are saying that sex offending 'asylum seekers' will be deported. Do we really believe these scum bags only started sex offending when they arrived? Billhooks. They probably had a history back in their home country. This is why formal migration process is needed. To vet before arrival. But it's a free for all now. " They will still be allowed a right to appeal any decision and, as we all know, there are several layers of appeal that all take time to come around. This might sound good just before the upcoming by-election but as to whether it will actually work or not remains to be seen. | |||
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"So we have idiots going on about tent villages , not accepting council tenants and other tripe about Putin weaponizing migrants to clog up our ' British' way of life, clearly right wing clap trap from greedy self centered clowns. Time to wake up you narrow minded ones , the world has changed and you and your inaction caused it when our lot took away their peaceful existence with regime changes. Remember the Walk docu drama from channel 4 years ago, now those chickens are coming home to roost also. Mx 😜 " Who pays for all these migrants? And you better have a good answer | |||
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"…7 Scottish army barracks are housing 380 afghan refugees per barrack right now and my friend who inspects them says the insides of the barracks will all have to be fully gutted right back to the brick and rebuilt once they're out due to the shocking mess they have made." Almost every barracks I’ve ever stayed in was already in a shocking condition thanks to the previous (military) occupants and the governments approach to maintenance (ie never doing any). I’m amazed your ‘friend’ didn’t take this into account. | |||
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"Given its complexity, along with a strong legal framework, migration demands a multi-agency effort to manage such a complex, multi-faceted issue - far more complex than many appear to realise. This would require all the large UK institutions - UK government, the devolved powers, the church / faith communities, major companies, trade unions, and others plus overseas government cooperation - to work together towards an effective solution as the present attempts of dealing with migration are very clearly failing." Of course they are failing, stupid, short term, self serving politicians from most partys have signed us up to unrealistic human rights agreements and discrimination laws that have hog tied us and made our sovereignty a joke! Jonny foreigner knows this, and so do the criminals that run the migrant boats! They use our own laws and international agreements against us... We are on the road to hell if all this is all not stopped PDQ... Maybe we need a Trump type politician that can scrap all previous stupid made laws and agreements that are detrimental to the UK and it's citizens? Gawd... if you can't look after own first; whats the point of being British! | |||
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"I know that you want to push 1000s of people who have committed no crime out the back of an aeroplane at 30,000ft. That is sickening. Typical response from you sara, you miss out the fact they would be given parachutes and dropped back to their own country. Why are we allowing them all to come here. We don't need them and for the majority of it they don't want to live the way we do in our civilised country. Remember all the Muslims coming over here wanting Sharia law how about the ones who come over here and commit acts of terrorism. All this could have been avoided by not allowing it to start with. Again, you seem ignorant of the fact that a military aircraft entering the sovereign airspace of a foreign country without permission will be shot down. Britain regularly deploys its rapid-response fighter jet patrols whenever the Russian bears on patrol get too close to our airspace, for example. I think we have two RAF air bases - one in Scotland, one in England - where jets are in a permanent state of readiness to take down aircraft perceived to be a threat. They are deployed, too, whenever a civilian aircraft enters our airspace without contact or permission from air traffic control. The authority to shoot down the aircraft comes from the PM. Every country is the same. Though some also have SAM missiles to do the same job. Your idea is insane." It's not insane at all we could even send a couple of our jets out to fly with the plane carrying the migrants while we return what isn't ours. | |||
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"There is the stink of hypocrisy in this Govt's policy. They now want to bribe private landlords (who most lefties hate) to rent their places to migrants. But private landlords rarely have un occupied housing as they don't want voids. So the only way this scheme can work is if private landlords evict their present tenants to create empty units using Section 21 of the housing act. But, the Labour party have been opposed to Section 21 for years and are preparing a Bill to make it illegal. What the hell sort of Govt. is this that wants British families evicted to create spaces for people who walk up the beach?" I think that the government prefers the long term view, a situation in which major companies owned by big finance owns the housing stock. This is more common in mainland Europe. To do this they need to push out the small landlord sector. Tactics like this could be a way to encourage the smaller landlords to sell out. Maybe it's time to buy into the likes of Serco. | |||
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"So we have idiots going on about tent villages , not accepting council tenants and other tripe about Putin weaponizing migrants to clog up our ' British' way of life, clearly right wing clap trap from greedy self centered clowns. Time to wake up you narrow minded ones , the world has changed and you and your inaction caused it when our lot took away their peaceful existence with regime changes. Remember the Walk docu drama from channel 4 years ago, now those chickens are coming home to roost also. Mx 😜 Who pays for all these migrants? And you better have a good answer Illegal invaders is a bit strong, they are migrants escaping from war zones and poverty stricken countries created by the West, many farmers are millionaires and are quite rightly being taxed to help out the non millionaires of this country. Mx | |||
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"So we have idiots going on about tent villages , not accepting council tenants and other tripe about Putin weaponizing migrants to clog up our ' British' way of life, clearly right wing clap trap from greedy self centered clowns. Time to wake up you narrow minded ones , the world has changed and you and your inaction caused it when our lot took away their peaceful existence with regime changes. Remember the Walk docu drama from channel 4 years ago, now those chickens are coming home to roost also. Mx 😜 .... .... Indy2 methinks M... 🤪 I can't wait to see what a mess this particular SNP outfit makes of the independence call this time Richey, talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory,wee Nicola was our best hope to be shot of these clowns from down South and that imploded for personal reasons.Now I fear we are stuck with them as there is no Scottish politician worth their salt who has the wherewithal to extricate us from this farce of a Union and Trumps growing interest in our land.I despair. Mx That's a strange tangent to go off on when we're talking about migrants? What has Scottish Independence got to do with it? | |||
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" Who pays for all these migrants? And you better have a good answer Some may be escaping war zones but others definitely are not. Also when did 'we' make these countries 'poverty stricken'? Most have been independent for the last 50 or 60 years. Some were never our colonies anyway. Wonder how you would feel in a total stranger walked through an open door at Marisa Manor and expected you to feed him, find a room for him and give him pocket money for the foreseeable future. A lot of farmers are land rich but bank balance poor. Also tend to work, as a family, all sorts of ridiculous hours. Certainly not 9 to 5 with the weekends off. Yes there are exceptions like the Clarksons and Dysons who own farms but are not really farmers. | |||
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" You mean the inheritance tax which will force hard working farmers sons and daughters to sell off valuable food producing land to be build over for housing for illegal invaders!" Except they are not illegal. It has been written into UK law since the 1950s that anyone can set foot on UK soil for the purpose of seeking asylum. They are required to present themselves to th authorities upon arrival and the state has a duty to treat them humanely while their application is processed. Their presence here is wholly lawful. | |||
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"Ok, so three military aircraft will be shot down instead of one? Brilliant! Then what? We declare war and invade! That would be splendid! " So the choice is simple either fly them back and tell their own country they have no choice but to take them or blow them out of the water if they refuse to turn the boats around. And before you say it, it's not murder then if they refuse to turn the boat around that is self inflicted. Or we keep taking them in and stuff our own British born homeless people including families. | |||
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" You mean the inheritance tax which will force hard working farmers sons and daughters to sell off valuable food producing land to be build over for housing for illegal invaders! Except they are not illegal. It has been written into UK law since the 1950s that anyone can set foot on UK soil for the purpose of seeking asylum. They are required to present themselves to th authorities upon arrival and the state has a duty to treat them humanely while their application is processed. Their presence here is wholly lawful." It's not unheard of for laws to change. Not so long ago it was illegal to be gay | |||
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" You mean the inheritance tax which will force hard working farmers sons and daughters to sell off valuable food producing land to be build over for housing for illegal invaders! Except they are not illegal. It has been written into UK law since the 1950s that anyone can set foot on UK soil for the purpose of seeking asylum. They are required to present themselves to th authorities upon arrival and the state has a duty to treat them humanely while their application is processed. Their presence here is wholly lawful." Vist Dover and tell the locals that. | |||
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"Ok, so three military aircraft will be shot down instead of one? Brilliant! Then what? We declare war and invade! That would be splendid! So the choice is simple either fly them back and tell their own country they have no choice but to take them or blow them out of the water if they refuse to turn the boats around. And before you say it, it's not murder then if they refuse to turn the boat around that is self inflicted. Or we keep taking them in and stuff our own British born homeless people including families." Nope, that's still murder. | |||
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" You mean the inheritance tax which will force hard working farmers sons and daughters to sell off valuable food producing land to be build over for housing for illegal invaders! Except they are not illegal. It has been written into UK law since the 1950s that anyone can set foot on UK soil for the purpose of seeking asylum. They are required to present themselves to th authorities upon arrival and the state has a duty to treat them humanely while their application is processed. Their presence here is wholly lawful. Vist Dover and tell the locals that." The legal position on this is the same in Dover as it is Dundee or anywhere else. | |||
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" The legal position on this is the same in Dover as it is Dundee or anywhere else. " Not really the same, in Dundee the pehs are much better | |||
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" You mean the inheritance tax which will force hard working farmers sons and daughters to sell off valuable food producing land to be build over for housing for illegal invaders! Except they are not illegal. It has been written into UK law since the 1950s that anyone can set foot on UK soil for the purpose of seeking asylum. They are required to present themselves to th authorities upon arrival and the state has a duty to treat them humanely while their application is processed. Their presence here is wholly lawful. Vist Dover and tell the locals that. The legal position on this is the same in Dover as it is Dundee or anywhere else. " You know full well the point being made, but as usual, Mr Jevo, you choose to ignore. You're happy with filling this country with the potentially dangerous. | |||
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