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"That's an awful story - and the most demonstrable evidence ever of why capital punishment is for the hard of thinking. " I have friends who back the death penalty and I've never understood them. This case is another example of why the death penalty should stay a thing if the past | |||
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"That's an awful story - and the most demonstrable evidence ever of why capital punishment is for the hard of thinking. " I agree | |||
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"Ive been married for 40 years" Difference being that you can leave at any time. | |||
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"That's a disgrace. There is no way he should charged a penny." Lol He'll be owed a fair few! | |||
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"So they found dna that wasn't available 40 years ago which reprieved him. Thats good. We should question what happend then but the prosecutors most likely dead by now. Give him a hood life now. As we have much better evidence on camera these days and with dna then hanging for murderers with proper evidence becomes possible. " Until you factor in the possibility of AI intervention | |||
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"So they found dna that wasn't available 40 years ago which reprieved him. Thats good. We should question what happend then but the prosecutors most likely dead by now. Give him a hood life now. As we have much better evidence on camera these days and with dna then hanging for murderers with proper evidence becomes possible. Until you factor in the possibility of AI intervention " Or the possibility there was an accomplice. | |||
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"I've read a few reports on this case, his release is due to the conviction being ruled as 'unsafe'. This does NOT mean he didn't carry out the murder, there is still plenty of evidence pointing to the fact that he did." Well apart from the DNA which isn't his, I believe. It sounds like the police just found him guilty to close the case and wash their hands off it. There have been similar other cases, and 1 involving a well known presenter too. | |||
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"Ive been married for 40 years Difference being that you can leave at any time. " and you know were your bread is buttered as they say | |||
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"I've read a few reports on this case, his release is due to the conviction being ruled as 'unsafe'. This does NOT mean he didn't carry out the murder, there is still plenty of evidence pointing to the fact that he did." Other than the DNA from the semen that was found which proved it wasn't his DNA   xx | |||
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"The police dont look for the truth. They look for a conviction" They are under pressure yes, understandably because a grieving family deserves justice. I’d like to think these cases are genuine mistakes, rather than deliberate errors. It must be awful for the family to discover 38 years later they still don’t have justice, and someone got away with raaaape and murder | |||
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"The police dont look for the truth. They look for a conviction They are under pressure yes, understandably because a grieving family deserves justice. I’d like to think these cases are genuine mistakes, rather than deliberate errors. It must be awful for the family to discover 38 years later they still don’t have justice, and someone got away with raaaape and murder" Yes but the trouble is they find a likely weirdo and push for a conviction, because it looks good for them. It's not right. | |||
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"I've read a few reports on this case, his release is due to the conviction being ruled as 'unsafe'. This does NOT mean he didn't carry out the murder, there is still plenty of evidence pointing to the fact that he did. Other than the DNA from the semen that was found which proved it wasn't his DNA xx"Entirely possible if he was not acting alone. | |||
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" Entirely possible if he was not acting alone." Were the Police looking for an accomplice do you know? Do you know if the CoA have released the transcript yet? That would be interesting to read xx | |||
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"The police dont look for the truth. They look for a conviction They are under pressure yes, understandably because a grieving family deserves justice. I’d like to think these cases are genuine mistakes, rather than deliberate errors. It must be awful for the family to discover 38 years later they still don’t have justice, and someone got away with raaaape and murder Yes but the trouble is they find a likely weirdo and push for a conviction, because it looks good for them. It's not right." Home Secretaries demand conviction rates - it makes them look "tough on crime" during their term in office. | |||
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" Entirely possible if he was not acting alone. Were the Police looking for an accomplice do you know? Do you know if the CoA have released the transcript yet? That would be interesting to read xx"I've no idea if they were either looking for or discounting the fact that there may have been a second suspect, as I don't have access to the case papers. What I do know is that both prosecution, defence and the judge would have had access to all the evidence, and that the jury would have listened to that evidence, unless ruled inadmissible during voir dire, beore deciding he was guilty. The evidence included an admission of guilt which, although it was argued was made under duress, they still believed. | |||
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"The evidence included an admission of guilt which, although it was argued was made under duress, they still believed. " Interesting...I have just looked to see if the court transcript had been released but I couldn't find anything. I have taken early retirement and I don't have access to databases or websites as I would have had whilst in employment. I am sure it won't be long before the transcript is released, thanks xx | |||
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"Because the jury was full of idiots like u who will believe anything they were never lookin for a second person the bite marks an dna came from one man an it wasn’t peters " Using the 'reply +quote' option is obviously beyond your limited capacity. I will however refer you to my previous response: "You are quite clearly invested in the case, and seem to be lacking the mental capacity to consider the various alternatives." | |||
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"Because the jury was full of idiots like u who will believe anything they were never lookin for a second person the bite marks an dna came from one man an it wasn’t peters Using the 'reply +quote' option is obviously beyond your limited capacity. I will however refer you to my previous response: "You are quite clearly invested in the case, and seem to be lacking the mental capacity to consider the various alternatives."" I know the case unlike u who has just read a newspaper article an formed your own judgement you absolute fool | |||
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"How much will Peter Sullivan get charged for his prison board and lodgings?" Maybe they will let him stay in, I strongly suspect with the length of time he has been locked away, he will be in a steady routine which will help his mental illness I suspect the Stockholm syndrome will be high in his mind | |||
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"How much will Peter Sullivan get charged for his prison board and lodgings?" This is an astonishing case; it is difficult to find anyone who has experienced greater misfortune. Spending 38 years in prison for a crime one did not commit constitutes a significant portion of one's life. The opportunities for joy, such as raising children, nurturing family relationships, and exploring the world, are lost. Instead, one is forced to confront the harsh realities of life among other inmates, which underscores the flaws in the death penalty system. | |||
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"Because the jury was full of idiots like u who will believe anything they were never lookin for a second person the bite marks an dna came from one man an it wasn’t peters Using the 'reply +quote' option is obviously beyond your limited capacity. I will however refer you to my previous response: "You are quite clearly invested in the case, and seem to be lacking the mental capacity to consider the various alternatives."I know the case unlike u who has just read a newspaper article an formed your own judgement you absolute fool " The jury are the ones who formed their judgement after considering all available evidence, including his confession. That's how it works. | |||
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"That's an awful story - and the most demonstrable evidence ever of why capital punishment is for the hard of thinking. " correct | |||
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"How much will Peter Sullivan get charged for his prison board and lodgings? This is an astonishing case; it is difficult to find anyone who has experienced greater misfortune..." Do you not think that the victim and her family may have 'experienced greater misfortune'? Why do you think he didn't do it? The courts haven't said as much. | |||
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"How much will Peter Sullivan get charged for his prison board and lodgings? This is an astonishing case; it is difficult to find anyone who has experienced greater misfortune... Do you not think that the victim and her family may have 'experienced greater misfortune'? Why do you think he didn't do it? The courts haven't said as much." He was temporarily released unless there is a desire to deem him guilty; the victims endured a harrowing experience due to the case , yet this discussion initially centered on him rather than the victims. Should you seek my perspective on that matter, I suggest initiating a separate discussion focused on the victims of this case, as individuals are likely to engage with you. Best of luck | |||
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"How much will Peter Sullivan get charged for his prison board and lodgings? This is an astonishing case; it is difficult to find anyone who has experienced greater misfortune... Do you not think that the victim and her family may have 'experienced greater misfortune'? Why do you think he didn't do it? The courts haven't said as much. He was temporarily released unless there is a desire to deem him guilty...." The Crown won't be calling for a retrial, that's for sure as it clearly isn't in the public internet. Even if guilty he's served his time. | |||
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"How much will Peter Sullivan get charged for his prison board and lodgings? Maybe they will let him stay in, I strongly suspect with the length of time he has been locked away, he will be in a steady routine which will help his mental illness I suspect the Stockholm syndrome will be high in his mind " | |||
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