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"More than just the internet - it's on the newspaper front pages, so the party spin doctors must be working hard to soften up public opinion. Stopping it for all pensioners was the right thing to do - one in 4 pensioners are millionaires. Totally agree with you , I am sure there will be an adjustment in the pipe line . But they set the bar too low, I think, and took it away from too many people. " | |||
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"There are too many old people wasting resources by keeping them warm, fed and healthy. Lazy, useless scroungers should be looking for work, not lounging around watching re runs of bargain hunt and drinking tea. Make them work in the care homes I say. If they refuse cut off their pensions! Feckless freeloaders the lot of em. " How very dare you. I don't like tea  | |||
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"Raise the tax threshold to lot will be paying tax on there pensions " You think we don't pay tax FFS. | |||
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"Raise the tax threshold to lot will be paying tax on there pensions " Just done my tax returns for 2024/25 and I will be paying more tax this year and even more next. My smallish private pension remains static but the state pension pushes me even further into the tax bracket. Seems the more they give the more they take away. | |||
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"We could put the pensioners on the beaches with canons . And if they sink a dingy they can have their cold weather payment back as a reward maybe "Are you referring to the Japanese brand, famous for its high quality cameras, printers and photocopiers, or the Christian title usually used to refer to a member of certain bodies in subject to an ecclesiastical rule? | |||
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"We could put the pensioners on the beaches with canons . And if they sink a dingy they can have their cold weather payment back as a reward maybe
Are you referring to the Japanese brand, famous for its high quality cameras, printers and photocopiers, or the Christian title usually used to refer to a member of certain bodies in subject to an ecclesiastical rule?"No I meant a cannon with big heavy balls | |||
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"There are too many old people wasting resources by keeping them warm, fed and healthy. Lazy, useless scroungers should be looking for work, not lounging around watching re runs of bargain hunt and drinking tea. Make them work in the care homes I say. If they refuse cut off their pensions! Feckless freeloaders the lot of em." If it wasn't for us poor pensioner Tops, we wouldn't have the time to fuck you bottoms. Its the only way we can generate enough warmth to stay alive sometimes. Hehehe! | |||
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" One in 4 pensioners are millionaires. " Do you have a verifiable source for that - certainly some pensioners are (but you cant include value of property) but I cant believe 1 in 4 are that well off. | |||
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" One in 4 pensioners are millionaires. Do you have a verifiable source for that - certainly some pensioners are (but you cant include value of property) but I cant believe 1 in 4 are that well off." Sell your homes!! You don't need 5 bedrooms at 80 | |||
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"There are too many old people wasting resources by keeping them warm, fed and healthy. Lazy, useless scroungers should be looking for work, not lounging around watching re runs of bargain hunt and drinking tea. Make them work in the care homes I say. If they refuse cut off their pensions! Feckless freeloaders the lot of em." Avocado munching, Netflix watching freeloaders | |||
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" One in 4 pensioners are millionaires. Do you have a verifiable source for that - certainly some pensioners are (but you cant include value of property) but I cant believe 1 in 4 are that well off." People's worth is defined by the total value of their estate, including property. But in the case of our pensioners, the largest single factor isn't property - it's the value of the personal pension they have accumulated. 27% are millionaires. | |||
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" One in 4 pensioners are millionaires. Do you have a verifiable source for that - certainly some pensioners are (but you cant include value of property) but I cant believe 1 in 4 are that well off." According to the latest ONS data, 27% of pensioners are asset rich in that the total value of their house, pensions and belongings are worth over a million pounds. That doesn’t mean they have lots of money to spend. I suspect that some people who demand that pensioners sell their hard earned assets are renters who are jealous. Renters who don’t buy a home will always have to pay rent, even in retirement. | |||
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" One in 4 pensioners are millionaires. Do you have a verifiable source for that - certainly some pensioners are (but you cant include value of property) but I cant believe 1 in 4 are that well off. People's worth is defined by the total value of their estate, including property. But in the case of our pensioners, the largest single factor isn't property - it's the value of the personal pension they have accumulated. 27% are millionaires." Having a pension worth a million doesn’t make you a millionaire. Unless you draw it all out and bank it of course. That would be very unwise. Potentially ruinous actually. | |||
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"I don't expect anyone to sell their home., millionaire or not. All I'm saying is that there are plenty who don't need you and I to be paying their leccy bill. " True. I’m 70 and I don’t need it. I’m happy for others to get my share. The problem is that the bar has been set at the wrong height. Some pensioners are suffering because of that. | |||
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"What threshold are we talking about here as the tax free allowance is £12570.00..." To keep up with inflation the free allowance should be £15,355.00. I paid no income tax in 2020 last year it was £700.00 plus I lost the winter fuel allowance which was another £200.00. To go from no tax to losing £900.00, is a lot. However I do agree with stopping the winter fuel payment. They could spend that money on making us energy independent, which in the long term would lower the energy prices. And just raies the tax free allowance by inflation. | |||
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" One in 4 pensioners are millionaires. Do you have a verifiable source for that - certainly some pensioners are (but you cant include value of property) but I cant believe 1 in 4 are that well off. According to the latest ONS data, 27% of pensioners are asset rich in that the total value of their house, pensions and belongings are worth over a million pounds. That doesn’t mean they have lots of money to spend. I suspect that some people who demand that pensioners sell their hard earned assets are renters who are jealous. Renters who don’t buy a home will always have to pay rent, even in retirement." I own my own home and still think crippled oaps don't need 5 bedrooms houses. Cash it in let people who want to grow their families have the house. | |||
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" Having a pension worth a million doesn’t make you a millionaire. Unless you draw it all out and bank it of course. That would be very unwise. Potentially ruinous actually. " When we talk of millionaires and billionaires, surely no-one thinks we are referring to the amount of cash in their bank account? No, these things are defined by the total value of their estate. Pension pots and property are included. Yachts. 2nd homes etc. | |||
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"There are ways around paying less tax, Amazon vouchers are a good way around it. The key is to pay as little tax as possible to this government as its only going to go on the international tramp community invading us in their dinghys " I thoroughly agree it’s look after yourself time . | |||
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"There are too many old people wasting resources by keeping them warm, fed and healthy. Lazy, useless scroungers should be looking for work, not lounging around watching re runs of bargain hunt and drinking tea. Make them work in the care homes I say. If they refuse cut off their pensions! Feckless freeloaders the lot of em." I hope by the time you reach retirement age .labour have raised it to 70 years old | |||
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"There are too many old people wasting resources by keeping them warm, fed and healthy. Lazy, useless scroungers should be looking for work, not lounging around watching re runs of bargain hunt and drinking tea. Make them work in the care homes I say. If they refuse cut off their pensions! Feckless freeloaders the lot of em.I hope by the time you reach retirement age .labour have raised it to 70 years old " It's not labour that's just a thing that has to happen given how much longer we're all living. Just make other provisions instead of depending on the state. Be your own master make enough money to be financially independent from the government. That measely 11000 a year will just be an added extra then | |||
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"There are ways around paying less tax, Amazon vouchers are a good way around it. The key is to pay as little tax as possible to this government as its only going to go on the international tramp community invading us in their dinghys I thoroughly agree it’s look after yourself time . " Oh yes indeed, better off in our pockets than the governments, especially this useless government who have managed to waste more money than any other in the shory space of time they've been in "power". I say power loosely as I don't class Starmer as a leader and more of a weak joke. | |||
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"I don't expect anyone to sell their home., millionaire or not. All I'm saying is that there are plenty who don't need you and I to be paying their leccy bill. " Bit like us paying for Liz Kendall's 'leccy bill'. She could easily pay for her it rather than claim on expenses. Snouts in the trough. | |||
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"I don't expect anyone to sell their home., millionaire or not. All I'm saying is that there are plenty who don't need you and I to be paying their leccy bill. Bit like us paying for Liz Kendall's 'leccy bill'. She could easily pay for her it rather than claim on expenses. Snouts in the trough. " Why pick on one MP? Don't they all get to claim costs for having a 2nd home? | |||
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"I don't expect anyone to sell their home., millionaire or not. All I'm saying is that there are plenty who don't need you and I to be paying their leccy bill. Bit like us paying for Liz Kendall's 'leccy bill'. She could easily pay for her it rather than claim on expenses. Snouts in the trough. Why pick on one MP? Don't they all get to claim costs for having a 2nd home? " To be fair, if you had to work away from home wouldn’t you expect the firm to pick up the tab? | |||
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"I don't expect anyone to sell their home., millionaire or not. All I'm saying is that there are plenty who don't need you and I to be paying their leccy bill. Bit like us paying for Liz Kendall's 'leccy bill'. She could easily pay for her it rather than claim on expenses. Snouts in the trough. Why pick on one MP? Don't they all get to claim costs for having a 2nd home? " I hope Starmer fits some sprinklers in his other homes 😆 | |||
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"I don't expect anyone to sell their home., millionaire or not. All I'm saying is that there are plenty who don't need you and I to be paying their leccy bill. Bit like us paying for Liz Kendall's 'leccy bill'. She could easily pay for her it rather than claim on expenses. Snouts in the trough. Why pick on one MP? Don't they all get to claim costs for having a 2nd home? To be fair, if you had to work away from home wouldn’t you expect the firm to pick up the tab?" No I would move nearer to my job it makes more sense | |||
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"I don't expect anyone to sell their home., millionaire or not. All I'm saying is that there are plenty who don't need you and I to be paying their leccy bill. Bit like us paying for Liz Kendall's 'leccy bill'. She could easily pay for her it rather than claim on expenses. Snouts in the trough. Why pick on one MP? Don't they all get to claim costs for having a 2nd home? To be fair, if you had to work away from home wouldn’t you expect the firm to pick up the tab?" Exactly. If my employer asked me to work out of London, I would not commute. I'd expect to recover the costs of staying in London from the employer. | |||
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"I don't expect anyone to sell their home., millionaire or not. All I'm saying is that there are plenty who don't need you and I to be paying their leccy bill. Bit like us paying for Liz Kendall's 'leccy bill'. She could easily pay for her it rather than claim on expenses. Snouts in the trough. Why pick on one MP? Don't they all get to claim costs for having a 2nd home? To be fair, if you had to work away from home wouldn’t you expect the firm to pick up the tab? No I would move nearer to my job it makes more sense" The job is their constituency. We ask them to travel to the legislature to represent the interests of their constituency. | |||
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"I don't expect anyone to sell their home., millionaire or not. All I'm saying is that there are plenty who don't need you and I to be paying their leccy bill. Bit like us paying for Liz Kendall's 'leccy bill'. She could easily pay for her it rather than claim on expenses. Snouts in the trough. Why pick on one MP? Don't they all get to claim costs for having a 2nd home? To be fair, if you had to work away from home wouldn’t you expect the firm to pick up the tab? No I would move nearer to my job it makes more sense The job is their constituency. We ask them to travel to the legislature to represent the interests of their constituency." We then they don’t need 2 houses they can stop in a cheap hotel | |||
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"I don't expect anyone to sell their home., millionaire or not. All I'm saying is that there are plenty who don't need you and I to be paying their leccy bill. Bit like us paying for Liz Kendall's 'leccy bill'. She could easily pay for her it rather than claim on expenses. Snouts in the trough. Why pick on one MP? Don't they all get to claim costs for having a 2nd home? To be fair, if you had to work away from home wouldn’t you expect the firm to pick up the tab? No I would move nearer to my job it makes more sense The job is their constituency. We ask them to travel to the legislature to represent the interests of their constituency. We then they don’t need 2 houses they can stop in a cheap hotel " These people are the ones who scream about freedoms but actually want to control everything | |||
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"I don't expect anyone to sell their home., millionaire or not. All I'm saying is that there are plenty who don't need you and I to be paying their leccy bill. Bit like us paying for Liz Kendall's 'leccy bill'. She could easily pay for her it rather than claim on expenses. Snouts in the trough. Why pick on one MP? Don't they all get to claim costs for having a 2nd home? To be fair, if you had to work away from home wouldn’t you expect the firm to pick up the tab? No I would move nearer to my job it makes more sense The job is their constituency. We ask them to travel to the legislature to represent the interests of their constituency. We then they don’t need 2 houses they can stop in a cheap hotel These people are the ones who scream about freedoms but actually want to control everything " We are all having to tighten our belts . They are not celebrities just doing a job . Be it not all that well. | |||
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"I don't expect anyone to sell their home., millionaire or not. All I'm saying is that there are plenty who don't need you and I to be paying their leccy bill. Bit like us paying for Liz Kendall's 'leccy bill'. She could easily pay for her it rather than claim on expenses. Snouts in the trough. Why pick on one MP? Don't they all get to claim costs for having a 2nd home? To be fair, if you had to work away from home wouldn’t you expect the firm to pick up the tab? No I would move nearer to my job it makes more sense The job is their constituency. We ask them to travel to the legislature to represent the interests of their constituency. We then they don’t need 2 houses they can stop in a cheap hotel These people are the ones who scream about freedoms but actually want to control everything We are all having to tighten our belts . They are not celebrities just doing a job . Be it not all that well. " If you don't pay people we'll you'll only get extremely rich and selfish people doing the job. If we provide them a decent pay with benefits it will attract a better class of people. Short-sightedness has been and continues to be the downfall of the UK population since circa 2016 | |||
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"More than just the internet - it's on the newspaper front pages, so the party spin doctors must be working hard to soften up public opinion. Stopping it for all pensioners was the right thing to do - one in 4 pensioners are millionaires. Totally agree with you , I am sure there will be an adjustment in the pipe line . But they set the bar too low, I think, and took it away from too many people. Am not a millionaire by far I wish I was " | |||
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"More than just the internet - it's on the newspaper front pages, so the party spin doctors must be working hard to soften up public opinion. Stopping it for all pensioners was the right thing to do - one in 4 pensioners are millionaires. Totally agree with you , I am sure there will be an adjustment in the pipe line . But they set the bar too low, I think, and took it away from too many people. Am not a millionaire by far I wish I was " Shoulda, woulda, couldas. Why should I or anyone from my generation pay your dotagi? | |||
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"There are too many old people wasting resources by keeping them warm, fed and healthy. Lazy, useless scroungers should be looking for work, not lounging around watching re runs of bargain hunt and drinking tea. Make them work in the care homes I say. If they refuse cut off their pensions! Feckless freeloaders the lot of em."  | |||
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"There are too many old people wasting resources by keeping them warm, fed and healthy. Lazy, useless scroungers should be looking for work, not lounging around watching re runs of bargain hunt and drinking tea. Make them work in the care homes I say. If they refuse cut off their pensions! Feckless freeloaders the lot of em." Won't be long until your one of them! | |||
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"Raise the tax threshold to lot will be paying tax on there pensions " ???????? | |||
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"There are too many old people wasting resources by keeping them warm, fed and healthy. Lazy, useless scroungers should be looking for work, not lounging around watching re runs of bargain hunt and drinking tea. Make them work in the care homes I say. If they refuse cut off their pensions! Feckless freeloaders the lot of em. Won't be long until your one of them! Hope so, get my freebies from working people " Surely you must be on some sort of disability already? I'm not being funny but you just come accross as a bit slower than the average person. | |||
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"There are too many old people wasting resources by keeping them warm, fed and healthy. Lazy, useless scroungers should be looking for work, not lounging around watching re runs of bargain hunt and drinking tea. Make them work in the care homes I say. If they refuse cut off their pensions! Feckless freeloaders the lot of em. Won't be long until your one of them!" Hope so get my freebies off working people | |||
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"There are too many old people wasting resources by keeping them warm, fed and healthy. Lazy, useless scroungers should be looking for work, not lounging around watching re runs of bargain hunt and drinking tea. Make them work in the care homes I say. If they refuse cut off their pensions! Feckless freeloaders the lot of em. Won't be long until your one of them! Hope so, get my freebies from working people Surely you must be on some sort of disability already? I'm not being funny but you just come accross as a bit slower than the average person." As old Maggie said, if they attack you personally, their loosing the argument | |||
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"One British pensioners who has fought for his or her country and paid taxes here their whole life is worth more to Britain than a thousand international tramps in dinghies. Case closed." Most are dead mate, when do you think the war was? | |||
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"One British pensioners who has fought for his or her country and paid taxes here their whole life is worth more to Britain than a thousand international tramps in dinghies. Case closed." And yet he says I'm the one that's simpler than the British average | |||
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"One British pensioners who has fought for his or her country and paid taxes here their whole life is worth more to Britain than a thousand international tramps in dinghies. Case closed. Most are dead mate, when do you think the war was?" Whose dead? The Falklands, NI, Korea, Malaya, Iraq, Bosnia, Afghanistan wasn't that long ago. | |||
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"I am 72 and therefore a pensioner and find so much offensive crap on hear the ignorance being displayed is beyond comprehension. I suggest that you all stop being so ignorant and do some volunteering with the old instead of wanking all day" | |||
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"As always any post turn in to a sad slanging match with bitterness from the same sad queens . " Bless | |||
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"There are too many old people wasting resources by keeping them warm, fed and healthy. Lazy, useless scroungers should be looking for work, not lounging around watching re runs of bargain hunt and drinking tea. Make them work in the care homes I say. If they refuse cut off their pensions! Feckless freeloaders the lot of em. Won't be long until your one of them! Hope so, get my freebies from working people Surely you must be on some sort of disability already? I'm not being funny but you just come accross as a bit slower than the average person. As old Maggie said, if they attack you personally, their loosing the argument " I'm quite certain Mrs.Thatcher said losing. | |||
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"One British pensioners who has fought for his or her country and paid taxes here their whole life is worth more to Britain than a thousand international tramps in dinghies. Case closed. Most are dead mate, when do you think the war was? Whose dead? The Falklands, NI, Korea, Malaya, Iraq, Bosnia, Afghanistan wasn't that long ago. " Oh! Bless!! Fetishising the army. | |||
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"I don't expect anyone to sell their home., millionaire or not. All I'm saying is that there are plenty who don't need you and I to be paying their leccy bill. Bit like us paying for Liz Kendall's 'leccy bill'. She could easily pay for her it rather than claim on expenses. Snouts in the trough. Why pick on one MP? Don't they all get to claim costs for having a 2nd home? To be fair, if you had to work away from home wouldn’t you expect the firm to pick up the tab?" MPs are different. Expenses are there to encourage people who could not otherwise afford the costs of being an MP to stand for election, not to give money to the already wealthy. | |||
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"There are too many old people wasting resources by keeping them warm, fed and healthy. Lazy, useless scroungers should be looking for work, not lounging around watching re runs of bargain hunt and drinking tea. Make them work in the care homes I say. If they refuse cut off their pensions! Feckless freeloaders the lot of em. Won't be long until your one of them! Hope so, get my freebies from working people Surely you must be on some sort of disability already? I'm not being funny but you just come accross as a bit slower than the average person." There's 'slow' ... and then backwards | |||
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"One British pensioners who has fought for his or her country and paid taxes here their whole life is worth more to Britain than a thousand international tramps in dinghies. Case closed. Most are dead mate, when do you think the war was? Whose dead? The Falklands, NI, Korea, Malaya, Iraq, Bosnia, Afghanistan wasn't that long ago. Oh! Bless!! Fetishising the army." Just proving you wrong again 😆 🤣 | |||
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"There are too many old people wasting resources by keeping them warm, fed and healthy. Lazy, useless scroungers should be looking for work, not lounging around watching re runs of bargain hunt and drinking tea. Make them work in the care homes I say. If they refuse cut off their pensions! Feckless freeloaders the lot of em. Won't be long until your one of them! Hope so, get my freebies from working people Surely you must be on some sort of disability already? I'm not being funny but you just come accross as a bit slower than the average person. There's 'slow' ... and then backwards " Or......you don't like the mirror I hold up to bigots | |||
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"There are too many old people wasting resources by keeping them warm, fed and healthy. Lazy, useless scroungers should be looking for work, not lounging around watching re runs of bargain hunt and drinking tea. Make them work in the care homes I say. If they refuse cut off their pensions! Feckless freeloaders the lot of em. Won't be long until your one of them! Hope so, get my freebies from working people Surely you must be on some sort of disability already? I'm not being funny but you just come accross as a bit slower than the average person. There's 'slow' ... and then backwards Or......you don't like the mirror I hold up to bigots " You are holding it the wrong way around ... that big bigoted face stares right back at you. The performative empathy act is looking very old and tired mate. | |||
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"Bigots? WantsMeets is a Labour supporter! He's one of you! "News to me!!! Never voted labour | |||
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"There are too many old people wasting resources by keeping them warm, fed and healthy. Lazy, useless scroungers should be looking for work, not lounging around watching re runs of bargain hunt and drinking tea. Make them work in the care homes I say. If they refuse cut off their pensions! Feckless freeloaders the lot of em. Won't be long until your one of them! Hope so, get my freebies from working people Surely you must be on some sort of disability already? I'm not being funny but you just come accross as a bit slower than the average person. There's 'slow' ... and then backwards Or......you don't like the mirror I hold up to bigots You are holding it the wrong way around ... that big bigoted face stares right back at you. The performative empathy act is looking very old and tired mate. " It would when you have no empathy for the other | |||
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"Bigots? WantsMeets is a Labour supporter! He's one of you!
News to me!!! Never voted labour "Well, assuming you vote, I'd be very interested to learn which party gets your support. | |||
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"Bigots? WantsMeets is a Labour supporter! He's one of you!
News to me!!! Never voted labour
Well, assuming you vote, I'd be very interested to learn which party gets your support. "I'm sure you would, my vote my choice. I'm from the left but I've never voted for labour | |||
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"As always any post turn in to a sad slanging match with bitterness from the same sad queens . Bless " Bless what? | |||
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"The weather cock is changing his mind again. Pathetic excuse of a government, pandering to the old and racist. No one has a clue what he stands for because he falls at everything." Wow. You've changed your tune. Is Sir Keir no longer your pin-up boy? | |||
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"The weather cock is changing his mind again. Pathetic excuse of a government, pandering to the old and racist. No one has a clue what he stands for because he falls at everything. Wow. You've changed your tune. Is Sir Keir no longer your pin-up boy?" He was never my pin up boy, I thought he was better than the tories. Still do!! However, he lost me after the island of strangers speech. I'll still support them if I think it's a good leftist policy but using the language of Farage and renaging on the winter fuel is pathetic! | |||
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" I own my own home and still think crippled oaps don't need 5 bedrooms houses. Cash it in let people who want to grow their families have the house." I wonder just how many OAPs live in 5 bedroom houses. Not that many at a guess. Even so if they have worked all their lives to pay for it why should they be forced out of their beloved family home. Obviously a 5 bed home takes some upkeep. Council tax, extra heating, lighting, cleaning etc. Many OAPs do downsize or at least try to. I did last year. Only went from a 3 bed to a 2 bed but actually paid £12k more for this house because it is in a nicer area and has off-street parking. Things are not always black and white. | |||
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" I own my own home and still think crippled oaps don't need 5 bedrooms houses. Cash it in let people who want to grow their families have the house. I wonder just how many OAPs live in 5 bedroom houses. Not that many at a guess. Even so if they have worked all their lives to pay for it why should they be forced out of their beloved family home. Obviously a 5 bed home takes some upkeep. Council tax, extra heating, lighting, cleaning etc. Many OAPs do downsize or at least try to. I did last year. Only went from a 3 bed to a 2 bed but actually paid £12k more for this house because it is in a nicer area and has off-street parking. Things are not always black and white." Ok say 3 bedroom home, they don't need it! People are choosing not to have children because they can't afford a bigger home. If people weren't so sentimental about bricks and mortar sold up made the market more fluid it would help with freeing up larger homes and make things cheaper as more property would be available. They clearly don't have to but in not doing they're being selfish, which absolutely rhymes with my experience of that generation | |||
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" I own my own home and still think crippled oaps don't need 5 bedrooms houses. Cash it in let people who want to grow their families have the house. I wonder just how many OAPs live in 5 bedroom houses. Not that many at a guess. Even so if they have worked all their lives to pay for it why should they be forced out of their beloved family home. Obviously a 5 bed home takes some upkeep. Council tax, extra heating, lighting, cleaning etc. Many OAPs do downsize or at least try to. I did last year. Only went from a 3 bed to a 2 bed but actually paid £12k more for this house because it is in a nicer area and has off-street parking. Things are not always black and white." You do live in a nice part of the country | |||
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" I own my own home and still think crippled oaps don't need 5 bedrooms houses. Cash it in let people who want to grow their families have the house. I wonder just how many OAPs live in 5 bedroom houses. Not that many at a guess. Even so if they have worked all their lives to pay for it why should they be forced out of their beloved family home. Obviously a 5 bed home takes some upkeep. Council tax, extra heating, lighting, cleaning etc. Many OAPs do downsize or at least try to. I did last year. Only went from a 3 bed to a 2 bed but actually paid £12k more for this house because it is in a nicer area and has off-street parking. Things are not always black and white. You do live in a nice part of the country" Where the men are men and the sheep run scared | |||
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"To be fair to Sir Kier, the "island of strangers" and "incalculable damage" were specifically in the context of the last term of the Tory administration, when they were letting up to 1.2 million people a year move here. Immigration at those levels is unsustainable, and that was the context of the remarks. It was not said about immigration in general." Yeah, and then there's the way it lands!! Terrible, absolutely terrible. Needs to go as does Yvette fetishising filming migrants being deported needs to be sacked | |||
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" One in 4 pensioners are millionaires. Do you have a verifiable source for that - certainly some pensioners are (but you cant include value of property) but I cant believe 1 in 4 are that well off. Sell your homes!! You don't need 5 bedrooms at 80" Lets say you live in London, a small house with far fewer than 5 bedrooms may easily be worth a million. So where is that person to move to to realise the capital? | |||
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"I always think of Powys as posh Wales because of Brecon. Powys and Monmouthshire 👍 " Brecon posh???lol Powys is massive. Monmouthshire is posh, lovely land | |||
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"To be fair to Sir Kier, the "island of strangers" and "incalculable damage" were specifically in the context of the last term of the Tory administration, when they were letting up to 1.2 million people a year move here. Immigration at those levels is unsustainable, and that was the context of the remarks. It was not said about immigration in general. Yeah, and then there's the way it lands!! Terrible, absolutely terrible. Needs to go as does Yvette fetishising filming migrants being deported needs to be sacked " No, I think the remarks, in the context they were said, will resonate with many people. 1.2m a year is too high | |||
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" One in 4 pensioners are millionaires. Do you have a verifiable source for that - certainly some pensioners are (but you cant include value of property) but I cant believe 1 in 4 are that well off. Sell your homes!! You don't need 5 bedrooms at 80 Lets say you live in London, a small house with far fewer than 5 bedrooms may easily be worth a million. So where is that person to move to to realise the capital? " If you sell a 5 bed house in London ilyou could buy a 5 bed house in Sheffield or how about a one bedroom flat in the same area but look within your budget!! | |||
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"To be fair to Sir Kier, the "island of strangers" and "incalculable damage" were specifically in the context of the last term of the Tory administration, when they were letting up to 1.2 million people a year move here. Immigration at those levels is unsustainable, and that was the context of the remarks. It was not said about immigration in general. Yeah, and then there's the way it lands!! Terrible, absolutely terrible. Needs to go as does Yvette fetishising filming migrants being deported needs to be sacked No, I think the remarks, in the context they were said, will resonate with many people. 1.2m a year is too high" Couldn't give a fuck about many, many are wrong and racist. | |||
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" One in 4 pensioners are millionaires. Neither can I Do you have a verifiable source for that - certainly some pensioners are (but you cant include value of property) but I cant believe 1 in 4 are that well off." | |||
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" One in 4 pensioners are millionaires. Do you have a verifiable source for that - certainly some pensioners are (but you cant include value of property) but I cant believe 1 in 4 are that well off. Sell your homes!! You don't need 5 bedrooms at 80 Lets say you live in London, a small house with far fewer than 5 bedrooms may easily be worth a million. So where is that person to move to to realise the capital? " True. A friend lives within walking distance of Wimbledon station, SW19, very expensive. Her house is in a terrace of former railway workers houses, very small, no private parking etc. Typical London terraced street. The house is valued over a million but she's lived there nearly 50 years. To move would be to move away from her support network of friends and downsizing would be difficult given the small 2 bed she's in now. Asset rich.. | |||
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" One in 4 pensioners are millionaires. Do you have a verifiable source for that - certainly some pensioners are (but you cant include value of property) but I cant believe 1 in 4 are that well off. Sell your homes!! You don't need 5 bedrooms at 80 Lets say you live in London, a small house with far fewer than 5 bedrooms may easily be worth a million. So where is that person to move to to realise the capital? True. A friend lives within walking distance of Wimbledon station, SW19, very expensive. Her house is in a terrace of former railway workers houses, very small, no private parking etc. Typical London terraced street. The house is valued over a million but she's lived there nearly 50 years. To move would be to move away from her support network of friends and downsizing would be difficult given the small 2 bed she's in now. Asset rich.. " Lovely one bed flat would do | |||
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" One in 4 pensioners are millionaires. Do you have a verifiable source for that - certainly some pensioners are (but you cant include value of property) but I cant believe 1 in 4 are that well off. Sell your homes!! You don't need 5 bedrooms at 80 Lets say you live in London, a small house with far fewer than 5 bedrooms may easily be worth a million. So where is that person to move to to realise the capital? True. A friend lives within walking distance of Wimbledon station, SW19, very expensive. Her house is in a terrace of former railway workers houses, very small, no private parking etc. Typical London terraced street. The house is valued over a million but she's lived there nearly 50 years. To move would be to move away from her support network of friends and downsizing would be difficult given the small 2 bed she's in now. Asset rich.. " Also not ok for the wealthy suburban to move away from their network but absolutely ok for people who want council houses to be shifted all over the country!! Talk about two tier | |||
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"I always think of Powys as posh Wales because of Brecon. Powys and Monmouthshire 👍 Brecon posh???lol Powys is massive. Monmouthshire is posh, lovely land " Parts of it are really nice I know a few who settled there, the pubs aren't posh. Monmouthshire is nice , lived near there in Chepstow , well on the border In Sedbury | |||
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"I can only just survive on my 56k combined pensions and would be grateful for a little extra help on cold winter days . " You can only just survive on £56k a year? Would you like to have another think about that? | |||
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"I always think of Powys as posh Wales because of Brecon. Powys and Monmouthshire 👍 Brecon posh???lol Powys is massive. Monmouthshire is posh, lovely land Parts of it are really nice I know a few who settled there, the pubs aren't posh. Monmouthshire is nice , lived near there in Chepstow , well on the border In Sedbury" Brecon is backwards, not quite like the valleys both suit people who hate migrants. Both have low tolerance and low migration. Usually the way | |||
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"I can only just survive on my 56k combined pensions and would be grateful for a little extra help on cold winter days . " Burn some tenners to keep you warm | |||
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"I can only just survive on my 56k combined pensions and would be grateful for a little extra help on cold winter days . " I hear your struggle!! | |||
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"I always think of Powys as posh Wales because of Brecon. Powys and Monmouthshire 👍 Brecon posh???lol Powys is massive. Monmouthshire is posh, lovely land Parts of it are really nice I know a few who settled there, the pubs aren't posh. Monmouthshire is nice , lived near there in Chepstow , well on the border In Sedbury Brecon is backwards, not quite like the valleys both suit people who hate migrants. Both have low tolerance and low migration. Usually the way " Posh parts of London only have wealthy doctors, lawyers and similar in terms of migrants. That's not the same as what you're insinuating! Move in a few refugees into somewhere like Kensington and Chelsea and see the reaction! | |||
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"I can only just survive on my 56k combined pensions and would be grateful for a little extra help on cold winter days . " Cut down on the takeaway booze and holidays in Clacton on Sea.Shop in Aldi or Lidl instead of Waitrose and don't buy Andrex toilet roll and you should be able to live on £56000 a year . | |||
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"I always think of Powys as posh Wales because of Brecon. Powys and Monmouthshire 👍 Brecon posh???lol Powys is massive. Monmouthshire is posh, lovely land Parts of it are really nice I know a few who settled there, the pubs aren't posh. Monmouthshire is nice , lived near there in Chepstow , well on the border In Sedbury Brecon is backwards, not quite like the valleys both suit people who hate migrants. Both have low tolerance and low migration. Usually the way Posh parts of London only have wealthy doctors, lawyers and similar in terms of migrants. That's not the same as what you're insinuating! Move in a few refugees into somewhere like Kensington and Chelsea and see the reaction!" No, you can't compare Kensington and Chelsea with Brecon and the valleys. Kensington and Chelsea would be about 70% white demographic Brecon and the valleys would be 99% white Be they British born, economic or asylum seekers. Brecon and the valleys have barely seen people of colour | |||
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"I always think of Powys as posh Wales because of Brecon. Powys and Monmouthshire 👍 " Powys has a lot of hidde rural poverty. Not much employment and generally quite low pay. Monmouth has a Waitrose. | |||
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"My point, BDE, is that white wealthy people with wealthy neighbours of colour can't say that their lived experience of immigration is the same as deprived areas where jobs, money and housing are scarce. Where do local authorities almost always end up housing refugees?" Don't think this is true, I think they try and house them where there's availability, rather than targeted areas. Might help those areas brake down barriers and get to know refugees if they housed them in the quantity you suggest | |||
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"BDE, you always answer the point you want and avoid everything else..." Because, what you usually suggest are lies and conspiracies spread by the terminally online | |||
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"It's not a lie to say wealthy people live in wealthy areas and that most have little exposure to poor people and refugees." Wealthy people live in wealthy people, accurate. However Britain has no segregated communities so to make the leap you then make is absolutely a lie and conspiracy | |||
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"It's not a lie to say wealthy people live in wealthy areas and that most have little exposure to poor people and refugees. Wealthy people live in wealthy people, accurate. However Britain has no segregated communities so to make the leap you then make is absolutely a lie and conspiracy " *Areas | |||
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"It's not a lie to say wealthy people live in wealthy areas and that most have little exposure to poor people and refugees." Where was Grenfell? | |||
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"It's not a lie to say wealthy people live in wealthy areas and that most have little exposure to poor people and refugees." It is human nature to cluster with people who share similar characteristics | |||
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"It's not a lie to say wealthy people live in wealthy areas and that most have little exposure to poor people and refugees. It is human nature to cluster with people who share similar characteristics " Exactly! Look at the Brits in Spain | |||
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"If people stopped bragging about spending the Winter fuel allowance on the Grand children's Christmas present instead of there electric or gas bill the government would not have taken it away ." Why do you see this as bragging when, quite simply, some people have just made a better job of planning their lives, and worked harder and smarter instead of spending every penny just as it comes in? | |||
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" I own my own home and still think crippled oaps don't need 5 bedrooms houses. Cash it in let people who want to grow their families have the house. I wonder just how many OAPs live in 5 bedroom houses. Not that many at a guess. Even so if they have worked all their lives to pay for it why should they be forced out of their beloved family home. Obviously a 5 bed home takes some upkeep. Council tax, extra heating, lighting, cleaning etc. Many OAPs do downsize or at least try to. I did last year. Only went from a 3 bed to a 2 bed but actually paid £12k more for this house because it is in a nicer area and has off-street parking. Things are not always black and white. You do live in a nice part of the country Where the men are men and the sheep run scared " Ah yes. The stock standard joke by city boys and the estuary English. | |||
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"I always think of Powys as posh Wales because of Brecon. Powys and Monmouthshire 👍 Brecon posh???lol Powys is massive. Monmouthshire is posh, lovely land Parts of it are really nice I know a few who settled there, the pubs aren't posh. Monmouthshire is nice , lived near there in Chepstow , well on the border In Sedbury Brecon is backwards, not quite like the valleys both suit people who hate migrants. Both have low tolerance and low migration. Usually the way Posh parts of London only have wealthy doctors, lawyers and similar in terms of migrants. That's not the same as what you're insinuating! Move in a few refugees into somewhere like Kensington and Chelsea and see the reaction! No, you can't compare Kensington and Chelsea with Brecon and the valleys. Kensington and Chelsea would be about 70% white demographic Brecon and the valleys would be 99% white Be they British born, economic or asylum seekers. Brecon and the valleys have barely seen people of colour " Wrong. Because of the Gurkhas there is a notable Nepalese population in Brecon and, of course, other nationalities because of the adjacent army bases. Quite a friendly area where everyone seems to get along with each other. | |||
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"I can only just survive on my 56k combined pensions and would be grateful for a little extra help on cold winter days . Cut down on the takeaway booze and holidays in Clacton on Sea.Shop in Aldi or Lidl instead of Waitrose and don't buy Andrex toilet roll and you should be able to live on £56000 a year ." I think what he is saying is his total pension pot is £56k, not £56k income. That's quite a small pension pot. To live comfortably you need a pot £ 400k ++++ | |||
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