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"Black communities. I remember a documentary by the gay comedian Steven K Amos about homophobia in the black community. Pretty shocking. Some of these African and Caribbean countries, gay men are literally at risk of their lives if exposed. "You may have a point there, in particular amongst those who follow religion, or at least claim to. | |||
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"The common denominator is male. Beyond that, it's not possible to categorise." As someone with a penchant for young black men, what sort of percentage would you say were 'out'? | |||
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"The common denominator is male. Beyond that, it's not possible to categorise." I actually found it to be females they make out there ok but faced with it there the opposit | |||
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"A certain religious group. Must not say who or I will be accused of ******phobia. "I don't mind saying it - Christianity | |||
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"A certain religious group. Must not say who or I will be accused of ******phobia.
I don't mind saying it - Christianity "Very funny. These days quite a few Christian denominations---in civilised countries at least--are quite welcoming of gay people. | |||
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"A certain religious group. Must not say who or I will be accused of ******phobia.
I don't mind saying it - Christianity
Very funny. These days quite a few Christian denominations---in civilised countries at least--are quite welcoming of gay people."Interesting how they can band their own rules of ‘ interpretation ‘ ( the greyest of all behaviours ‘ when they need to. | |||
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"Difficult to point out really but ???? Putin, Kim Jon um, Lukashenko, and other despots, Trump.Vance Iran and Hamas and the like. Houtis, ??? Not sure about some catholic or Christian clergy. It's very easy for some of them to tsk tsk homosexuality to throw of the scent on them?? I feel sometimes we are going backwards and is it because too much is paraded in your face? I just don't know, I am openly gay to whom I'm close to and people I know have no problem with. Dr and surgery are all ok. but I do keep myself to myself. " Hebrew Bible and Talmud are quite clear on homosexuality, so orthodox Rabbis would also fit into this category. Famously the Noam party in Israel whose MO is against LGBT. | |||
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"Difficult to point out really but ???? Putin, Kim Jon um, Lukashenko, and other despots, Trump.Vance Iran and Hamas and the like. Houtis, ??? Not sure about some catholic or Christian clergy. It's very easy for some of them to tsk tsk homosexuality to throw of the scent on them?? I feel sometimes we are going backwards and is it because too much is paraded in your face? I just don't know, I am openly gay to whom I'm close to and people I know have no problem with. Dr and surgery are all ok. but I do keep myself to myself. " Trump was the first US president to take up office while being supportive of gay marriage. Even Obama was still pushing the "between a man and a woman" message. He has hosted same-sex weddings at Mar-a-Lago.  | |||
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"A certain religious group. Must not say who or I will be accused of ******phobia.
I don't mind saying it - Christianity
Very funny. These days quite a few Christian denominations---in civilised countries at least--are quite welcoming of gay people.
Interesting how they can band their own rules of ‘ interpretation ‘ ( the greyest of all behaviours ‘ when they need to. "True Christianity is based upon the Gospels and not the Old Testament man man rules for a desert people. Or even the letter of that rather over-zealous Jonny-come-lately St Paul for that matter. The Gospels are silent on the subject. | |||
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"From experience who or which group of society have you found to be the most phobic towards LGBTQI+ people. Wives!!!!" How many have you had? | |||
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"The common denominator is male. Beyond that, it's not possible to categorise. As someone with a penchant for young black men, what sort of percentage would you say were 'out'?" I have a penchant for fit young tops. White, black or Asian, they are all down-low, straight-acting bi guys. | |||
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"A certain religious group. Must not say who or I will be accused of ******phobia.
I don't mind saying it - Christianity
Very funny. These days quite a few Christian denominations---in civilised countries at least--are quite welcoming of gay people."Looking forward to the next Lesbian Pope. | |||
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"Black communities. I remember a documentary by the gay comedian Steven K Amos about homophobia in the black community. Pretty shocking. Some of these African and Caribbean countries, gay men are literally at risk of their lives if exposed. "Yes I agree with this. Black culture is very homophobic Jamaica / Nigeria are atrocious with it | |||
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"Black communities. I remember a documentary by the gay comedian Steven K Amos about homophobia in the black community. Pretty shocking. Some of these African and Caribbean countries, gay men are literally at risk of their lives if exposed. "Yes being black and gay can be difficult, at least until you establish a good friend base | |||
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"Ironically the so-called LGBT++++ community can be very homophobic towards gays if you don't instantly embrace trans, non-binary, gender-fluid and all the many groups they've dragged under the ever expanding umbrella. Then they accuse the likes of me as being homophobic just because I don't care for things like drag." I must be getting more (c)onservative how often I find myself agreeing with you | |||
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"Ironically the so-called LGBT++++ community can be very homophobic towards gays if you don't instantly embrace trans, non-binary, gender-fluid and all the many groups they've dragged under the ever expanding umbrella. Then they accuse the likes of me as being homophobic just because I don't care for things like drag. I must be getting more (c)onservative how often I find myself agreeing with you "Just give in Sara and you twojust get a room….  | |||
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"A certain religious group. Must not say who or I will be accused of ******phobia. "I will say it Islamist forbid Homosexuality . Throw you off building , as we seen with Islamic state. Their cultist religion of hate & violence But most religions will not like it . But tolerate it . We all know there’s distaste in world for anyone that’s not ( so called normal ) | |||
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"A certain religious group. Must not say who or I will be accused of ******phobia.
I will say it Islamist forbid Homosexuality . Throw you off building , as we seen with Islamic state.
Their cultist religion of hate & violence
But most religions will not like it .
But tolerate it .
We all know there’s distaste in world for anyone that’s not ( so called normal )
"But I.S. is not representative of all Muslims Just the same as K.K.K. is not representative of all Christians | |||
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"Those who cite Christians as "most phobic" seem to forget the fact that Muslims will kill you for being gay. Or is it not PC to say that?" I’ll ask the fella sat next to me, his babies swirling in my ass, if he wants to kill me
I suspect the answer may show YOU are the one with the phobia. | |||
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"Those who cite Christians as "most phobic" seem to forget the fact that Muslims will kill you for being gay. Or is it not PC to say that?" When I lived in Accrington the taxi drivers would kill to get me in their taxi 🚕 to take me home xx | |||
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"The fact that he's in your bed, Mr Jevo, would indicate he's not homophobic. Try asking his parents and wider family. " You’ve been watching too much porn - being gangbanged by the whole family is weird | |||
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"A certain religious group. Must not say who or I will be accused of ******phobia.
I will say it Islamist forbid Homosexuality . Throw you off building , as we seen with Islamic state.
Their cultist religion of hate & violence
But most religions will not like it .
But tolerate it .
We all know there’s distaste in world for anyone that’s not ( so called normal )
But I.S. is not representative of all Muslims
Just the same as K.K.K. is not representative of all Christians"Whilst this is true and there are, of course, gay Muslims, how many Islamic countries gave tolerant laws towards gay people? In most of them it is illegal and punishable by imprisonment or worse. In Iran they give you the choice of long term imprisonment, execution or a sex change. None of which the average gay man would want. | |||
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"Those who cite Christians as "most phobic" seem to forget the fact that Muslims will kill you for being gay. Or is it not PC to say that?" It's far safer to be gay in Islamic Turkey than Christian Uganda. | |||
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"But we're not living in Iran. The question was about the UK, I think. Generally, I find people brought in the UK are immersed in UK values. Sure, there are some who hold views you and I consider extreme. But that's the same for every ideology. Some people find comfort in extreme views, because they do not need to face up to their own insecurities." Fair enough though the OP did not specify. Plus it is a fact that some immigrants have come here to escape prosecution simply for being gay. However some who come here are quite homophobic. Even some of the East Europeans, who were coming over here legitimately to work a few years back, had strong views on the subject. Probably dating back to the Soviet Bloc era when being gay was totally taboo | |||
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"Difficult to point out really but ???? Putin, Kim Jon um, Lukashenko, and other despots, Trump.Vance Iran and Hamas and the like. Houtis, ??? Not sure about some catholic or Christian clergy. It's very easy for some of them to tsk tsk homosexuality to throw of the scent on them?? I feel sometimes we are going backwards and is it because too much is paraded in your face? I just don't know, I am openly gay to whom I'm close to and people I know have no problem with. Dr and surgery are all ok. but I do keep myself to myself. Trump was the first US president to take up office while being supportive of gay marriage. Even Obama was still pushing the "between a man and a woman" message. He has hosted same-sex weddings at Mar-a-Lago. "$- That doesn't mean he supports them . Good for his image and votes | |||
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"The over 65s " Total nonsense. Do you think that gayness is a recent invention? | |||
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"Difficult to point out really but ???? Putin, Kim Jon um, Lukashenko, and other despots, Trump.Vance Iran and Hamas and the like. Houtis, ??? Not sure about some catholic or Christian clergy. It's very easy for some of them to tsk tsk homosexuality to throw of the scent on them?? I feel sometimes we are going backwards and is it because too much is paraded in your face? I just don't know, I am openly gay to whom I'm close to and people I know have no problem with. Dr and surgery are all ok. but I do keep myself to myself. Trump was the first US president to take up office while being supportive of gay marriage. Even Obama was still pushing the "between a man and a woman" message. He has hosted same-sex weddings at Mar-a-Lago. $-
That doesn't mean he supports them .
Good for his image and votes "I agree, all it means is that his PA team says he supports them. Trump doesn't have a genuine bone in his body. | |||
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"From experience who or which group of society have you found to be the most phobic towards LGBTQI+ people. Not looking to rallying an uprising just curious as to where people perceive the most judgement comes from. " In my experience I find that homophobia still exists fairly widely in various forms and seems to be influenced by factors such as cultural backgrounds, religion, personal beliefs, bigotry and just plain ignorance. | |||
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"I find it interesting that there are still virtually zero male footballers who have come out as gay. Women's football though, which is becoming increasingly popular, has a large number of openly gay players and no-one seems to bat an eyelid. There's also less cheating and childishness from the players, which I like." Your very valid point makes a mockery of those above who seem more intent on making racial slurs. | |||
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"I find it interesting that there are still virtually zero male footballers who have come out as gay. Women's football though, which is becoming increasingly popular, has a large number of openly gay players and no-one seems to bat an eyelid. There's also less cheating and childishness from the players, which I like. Your very valid point makes a mockery of those above who seem more intent on making racial slurs. " I would say that most of the comments towards various races, and religions for that matter, appear to be observations rather than slurs. In this thread, anyway. | |||
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"The over 65s " Obviously some do but I don't think it is an age thing. My niece [only 8 years my junior] is deputy head at a large edge of city comprehensive school. She says homophobia has been rife there. The favourite insult amongst pupils is to call each other gay or queer. She is currently leading a group to tackle the problem. | |||
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"Go to Palestine or countries like Libya, Zambia, Iran, Somalia, the Yemen and proclaim you are gay Then you will see who is "phobic" well at least until they sentence you to death (Source humandignitytrust)" Thats not phobia, that's religious indoctrination. | |||
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"Daily mail (Frail) reader's " Guardian and Daily Mirror readers with their false support of LGBT just because it's trendy. | |||
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"Go to Palestine or countries like Libya, Zambia, Iran, Somalia, the Yemen and proclaim you are gay Then you will see who is "phobic" well at least until they sentence you to death (Source humandignitytrust) Thats not phobia, that's religious indoctrination." Oh, well, that's alright then. | |||
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"Go to Palestine or countries like Libya, Zambia, Iran, Somalia, the Yemen and proclaim you are gay Then you will see who is "phobic" well at least until they sentence you to death (Source humandignitytrust) Thats not phobia, that's religious indoctrination. Oh, well, that's alright then." It's not okay but it's not a phobia either. It's incredibly sad that religious indoctrination still affects so many | |||
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"Go to Palestine or countries like Libya, Zambia, Iran, Somalia, the Yemen and proclaim you are gay Then you will see who is "phobic" well at least until they sentence you to death (Source humandignitytrust) Thats not phobia, that's religious indoctrination. Oh, well, that's alright then. It's not okay but it's not a phobia either. It's incredibly sad that religious indoctrination still affects so many" It's a cop-out to suggest that a lack of natural morality can be forgiven due to religious indoctrination. How is it any different from societal or familial indoctrination. If you hate gays it doesn't matter if it's because all you friend do, or your parents told you to of your holy book tells you to; it's the same hatred, no excuse. | |||
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"Think this example just highlights the double standard that exists in society. It’s much less of a talking point to be a lesbian than it is to be a homosexual. It’s the social backlash against men who are homosexual that prevents men in public view from coming out and living the life they want to live as they fear that the career that affords them an incredible lifestyle will be taken away when the fans turn on them. " Totally agree with you. Mx  | |||
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"In my experience as a bisexual guy, I have only felt judged by gay men who have said I’m really just gay and in denial. This has happened a number of times over the years" Have experienced this too. Seems that some gay-guys project / promote a hierarchy to gayness, with bi-guys being seen as “not quite one of us” by a vocal minority of gay-guys. Further, as I sometimes wear lingerie, I’m also occasionally reminded I'm not a real man… whatever that is meant to be! But do I care? Errrrrr, no…. After all, there’s enough guys wanting to play with a “half-gay” like me lol | |||
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"In my experience as a bisexual guy, I have only felt judged by gay men who have said I’m really just gay and in denial. This has happened a number of times over the years" It's a similar experience being a CD/TV on fabguys. There is a chunk of the membership who would deny my right to be here. It's like the only acceptable Gayness for them is 'proper, manly gays'. | |||
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"Go to Palestine or countries like Libya, Zambia, Iran, Somalia, the Yemen and proclaim you are gay Then you will see who is "phobic" well at least until they sentence you to death (Source humandignitytrust) Thats not phobia, that's religious indoctrination. Oh, well, that's alright then. It's not okay but it's not a phobia either. It's incredibly sad that religious indoctrination still affects so many" Too many people hide behind religion to justify THEIR prejudice. Everyone is quite capable of ignoring the biblical instruction to execute people for eating shellfish, or wearing the wrong type of clothing, or selling their daughter to the highest bidder etc. But it seems some lose control of their own mind when it comes to punching down on anyone who is not heterosexual. It is THEIR prejudice. They own it. | |||
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"Klingons "Absolutely not. It would be dishonourable and honour is everything to the Klingons. | |||
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"It's far safer to be gay in Islamic Turkey than Christian Uganda." No Ugandan barbers in my town. There’s a mosque though. Ugandans aren’t a problem in this country. They aren’t the ones who’ll be throwing you off the Shard. | |||
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"It's far safer to be gay in Islamic Turkey than Christian Uganda. No Ugandan barbers in my town. There’s a mosque though. Ugandans aren’t a problem in this country. They aren’t the ones who’ll be throwing you off the Shard." I'll include the original post I responded to this time: "Those who cite Christians as "most phobic" seem to forget the fact that Muslims will kill you for being gay. Or is it not PC to say that?" It's far safer to be gay in Islamic Turkey than Christian Uganda." How many Turkish/Kurdish barbers, who may or may not be Muslim, have targeted or killed gay people in the UK? I know of a number of well-known gay murderers, Stephen Port, Dennis Nilsen & Colin Ireland for example. There was also the Admiral Duncan, carried out by neo-nazi David Copeland. None of these people are/were Muslim. | |||
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"It's far safer to be gay in Islamic Turkey than Christian Uganda. No Ugandan barbers in my town. There’s a mosque though. Ugandans aren’t a problem in this country. They aren’t the ones who’ll be throwing you off the Shard." The only person who's thrown anyone off a building in London was a white British guy called Jonty Bravery who was 17 and in the care of social services. Now serving 15 years in jail. Are you afraid of white British guys now? | |||
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