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... But this time we actually don't have any democratic input, far less a veto. Oh!
I thought Starmer was the smart one. | |||
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"Rejoin the EU? Yeah!
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I thought Starmer was the smart one."We haven’t rejoined, just reducing some of the red tape and costs that stopped our companies from trading with their biggest market. | |||
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"Just wondering what members think of the brexit reset deal, is it a good thing or a betrayal to everyone who voted in the referendum? " It is imperative to consider the challenges we face in attracting individuals back to the workforce post-Brexit. Who among the retired Brexit supporters is willing to drive the economy forward? | |||
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"Rejoin the EU? Yeah!
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I thought Starmer was the smart one.
We haven’t rejoined, just reducing some of the red tape and costs that stopped our companies from trading with their biggest market."Is Gary happy about this? | |||
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"I think generally it is a good thing and whilst i understand the fishing community is very unhappy ... which politician can deliver everything that everyone wants? What i crave most of all is a solution/end to illegal immigration/small boat crossings." Brexit has deceived its supporters in two significant ways: first, the expectation that we would effectively manage our own borders; after a decade, what has been achieved? Second, the desire for a blue passport has led to complaints about the necessity of waiting in line during travel. I sometimes wish I could be oblivious to the rhetoric of Farage and his associates. | |||
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"I think generally it is a good thing and whilst i understand the fishing community is very unhappy ... which politician can deliver everything that everyone wants? What i crave most of all is a solution/end to illegal immigration/small boat crossings. Brexit has deceived its supporters in two significant ways: first, the expectation that we would effectively manage our own borders; after a decade, what has been achieved? Second, the desire for a blue passport has led to complaints about the necessity of waiting in line during travel. I sometimes wish I could be oblivious to the rhetoric of Farage and his associates." Just about everything that Farage and his ilk promised, the opposite has happened. Migration may be the most obvious example. He claimed leaving the EU would stop it. It hasn't. Immigration - regular and irregular - has soared. | |||
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"I think generally it is a good thing and whilst i understand the fishing community is very unhappy ... which politician can deliver everything that everyone wants? What i crave most of all is a solution/end to illegal immigration/small boat crossings. Brexit has deceived its supporters in two significant ways: first, the expectation that we would effectively manage our own borders; after a decade, what has been achieved? Second, the desire for a blue passport has led to complaints about the necessity of waiting in line during travel. I sometimes wish I could be oblivious to the rhetoric of Farage and his associates. Just about everything that Farage and his ilk promised, the opposite has happened. Migration may be the most obvious example. He claimed leaving the EU would stop it. It hasn't. Immigration - regular and irregular - has soared."  | |||
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"Only Starmer would surrender to the surrender monkeys 😆! Useless bustard he is, need to get rid of him before he does more damage." 👎👎👎👎 | |||
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"It’s a start Looking forward to Gammon heads exploding. Then there will be even less of them. So we’ll be able to rejoin sooner " | |||
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"Erm, did the country not vote to leave the EU" We did. Did you also want to stop all trade and travel, too? | |||
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"I'd be more interested to know why, nine years after the event, people on a MSM hookup site still feel the need to bang on and on about it 🙄🙄🙄" Because it is current news with re negotiating in process… | |||
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"Farage is a lieing bastard with a knack of getting naive people to believe him." Thick people, let’s be fair. Thick as a whale egg omelette. | |||
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"Only Starmer would surrender to the surrender monkeys 😆! Useless bustard he is, need to get rid of him before he does more damage." Struggling to understand the point being made.. | |||
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"Erm, did the country not vote to leave the EU" And we did, and we are still not a member. | |||
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"Why do so many of you hate the United Kingdom so much?" ? | |||
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"Why do so many of you hate the United Kingdom so much?" 70 million people, and each and every one is allowed their own vision of what they’d like the UK to be | |||
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"Trading with the EU is one thing but will we dictated to as before? " If you want to sell your product in a foreign market, it has to meet the safety standards of that market. Businesses here are spending billions of £s every year on tests and certificates to show their product meets those standards. Not any more, because our standards in sectors like food in future will align with those of the single market. Billions of £s of red tape removed. | |||
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"Trading with the EU is one thing but will we dictated to as before? " Donald wants you to eat chlorinated Chicken. I’d rather have fresh British food Primarily Then German French Italian Or Spanish Any day of the week. | |||
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"Awful ! Other countries exporting their youth unemployment to here. Will just depress wages here. A 34 year old is hardly a youth either. Norway protects its fishing by renewing its fishing deals a year at a time. We do 12 years. Reform are going to clean up in coastal constituencies. " I can’t take Nigel seriously, he still draws his EU pension. That’s not the sign of a trusted politician. He will say anything to please the popular vote as long as his bank account benefits. | |||
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"Only Starmer would surrender to the surrender monkeys 😆! Useless bustard he is, need to get rid of him before he does more damage. Struggling to understand the point being made.." It's curious that he expects foreigners to be fluent in English if they wish to remain in the UK. | |||
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"Only Starmer would surrender to the surrender monkeys 😆! Useless bustard he is, need to get rid of him before he does more damage. Struggling to understand the point being made.. It's curious that he expects foreigners to be fluent in English if they wish to remain in the UK. " Most Europeans speak English, it’s one of our greatest exports. | |||
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"Only Starmer would surrender to the surrender monkeys 😆! Useless bustard he is, need to get rid of him before he does more damage. Struggling to understand the point being made.. It's curious that he expects foreigners to be fluent in English if they wish to remain in the UK. " Well yes, if you move to another country then you learn the language and fit in 👍 | |||
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"Only Starmer would surrender to the surrender monkeys 😆! Useless bustard he is, need to get rid of him before he does more damage. Struggling to understand the point being made.. It's curious that he expects foreigners to be fluent in English if they wish to remain in the UK. Most Europeans speak English, it’s one of our greatest exports." All Europeans communicate in their native languages; they use English when one cannot converse in their language. | |||
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"Only Starmer would surrender to the surrender monkeys 😆! Useless bustard he is, need to get rid of him before he does more damage. Struggling to understand the point being made.. It's curious that he expects foreigners to be fluent in English if they wish to remain in the UK. Well yes, if you move to another country then you learn the language and fit in 👍 " | |||
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"Only Starmer would surrender to the surrender monkeys 😆! Useless bustard he is, need to get rid of him before he does more damage. Struggling to understand the point being made.. It's curious that he expects foreigners to be fluent in English if they wish to remain in the UK. Most Europeans speak English, it’s one of our greatest exports. All Europeans communicate in their native languages; they use English when one cannot converse in their language." Quite correct The French learn English to Speak to German, Italians etc. If we still had the opportunity to live in Italy, I would learn Italian. CAIO Sadly that’s not an option anymore. | |||
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"Don't think the fishermen are happy... Aside from that, anything that makes trade easier with the EU is a good thing. EU membership should've been about trading in good and services, not people." Farmers and fishermen are never happy, miserable bunch. | |||
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"Only Starmer would surrender to the surrender monkeys 😆! Useless bustard he is, need to get rid of him before he does more damage. Struggling to understand the point being made.. It's curious that he expects foreigners to be fluent in English if they wish to remain in the UK. Most Europeans speak English, it’s one of our greatest exports. All Europeans communicate in their native languages; they use English when one cannot converse in their language. Quite correct The French learn English to Speak to German, Italians etc. If we still had the opportunity to live in Italy, I would learn Italian. CAIO Sadly that’s not an option anymore." I find it puzzling why a French person would learn English just to communicate with a German, instead of picking up German since they might not even speak English? | |||
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"Just wondering what members think of the brexit reset deal, is it a good thing or a betrayal to everyone who voted in the referendum? " its typical starmer stabbing in the back tactics,, same as the winter fuel payments and tax rises,,, | |||
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"Seems good to me. But plenty won't. " You dont mind your government lying to u then | |||
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"I think generally it is a good thing and whilst i understand the fishing community is very unhappy ... which politician can deliver everything that everyone wants? What i crave most of all is a solution/end to illegal immigration/small boat crossings. Brexit has deceived its supporters in two significant ways: first, the expectation that we would effectively manage our own borders; after a decade, what has been achieved? Second, the desire for a blue passport has led to complaints about the necessity of waiting in line during travel. I sometimes wish I could be oblivious to the rhetoric of Farage and his associates. Just about everything that Farage and his ilk promised, the opposite has happened. Migration may be the most obvious example. He claimed leaving the EU would stop it. It hasn't. Immigration - regular and irregular - has soared." Dont critiscise nigel farage,he is not in power,well not yet anyway,but when he is i guarantee things will change | |||
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"I'd be more interested to know why, nine years after the event, people on a MSM hookup site still feel the need to bang on and on about it 🙄🙄🙄" Because they have the intelligence to understand the damage that Brexit has done and are pleased that our government are trying to improve our economy by having closer ties with the EU. | |||
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"Erm, did the country not vote to leave the EU" Yes but it’s been proven to be a big mistake. | |||
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"Only Starmer would surrender to the surrender monkeys 😆! Useless bustard he is, need to get rid of him before he does more damage. Struggling to understand the point being made.. It's curious that he expects foreigners to be fluent in English if they wish to remain in the UK. Most Europeans speak English, it’s one of our greatest exports. All Europeans communicate in their native languages; they use English when one cannot converse in their language. Quite correct The French learn English to Speak to German, Italians etc. If we still had the opportunity to live in Italy, I would learn Italian. CAIO Sadly that’s not an option anymore. I find it puzzling why a French person would learn English just to communicate with a German, instead of picking up German since they might not even speak English?" You need to travel more | |||
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"I think generally it is a good thing and whilst i understand the fishing community is very unhappy ... which politician can deliver everything that everyone wants? What i crave most of all is a solution/end to illegal immigration/small boat crossings. Brexit has deceived its supporters in two significant ways: first, the expectation that we would effectively manage our own borders; after a decade, what has been achieved? Second, the desire for a blue passport has led to complaints about the necessity of waiting in line during travel. I sometimes wish I could be oblivious to the rhetoric of Farage and his associates. Just about everything that Farage and his ilk promised, the opposite has happened. Migration may be the most obvious example. He claimed leaving the EU would stop it. It hasn't. Immigration - regular and irregular - has soared. Dont critiscise nigel farage,he is not in power,well not yet anyway,but when he is i guarantee things will change" | |||
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"I'd be more interested to know why, nine years after the event, people on a MSM hookup site still feel the need to bang on and on about it 🙄🙄🙄" Same reason they rush out to hug tree's | |||
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"I think generally it is a good thing and whilst i understand the fishing community is very unhappy ... which politician can deliver everything that everyone wants? What i crave most of all is a solution/end to illegal immigration/small boat crossings. Brexit has deceived its supporters in two significant ways: first, the expectation that we would effectively manage our own borders; after a decade, what has been achieved? Second, the desire for a blue passport has led to complaints about the necessity of waiting in line during travel. I sometimes wish I could be oblivious to the rhetoric of Farage and his associates. Just about everything that Farage and his ilk promised, the opposite has happened. Migration may be the most obvious example. He claimed leaving the EU would stop it. It hasn't. Immigration - regular and irregular - has soared. Dont critiscise nigel farage,he is not in power,well not yet anyway,but when he is i guarantee things will change" He never assumes power, resembling a timid mouse that retreats to its hole when faced with serious situations, much like his behaviour following Brexit. | |||
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"I think generally it is a good thing and whilst i understand the fishing community is very unhappy ... which politician can deliver everything that everyone wants? What i crave most of all is a solution/end to illegal immigration/small boat crossings. Brexit has deceived its supporters in two significant ways: first, the expectation that we would effectively manage our own borders; after a decade, what has been achieved? Second, the desire for a blue passport has led to complaints about the necessity of waiting in line during travel. I sometimes wish I could be oblivious to the rhetoric of Farage and his associates. Just about everything that Farage and his ilk promised, the opposite has happened. Migration may be the most obvious example. He claimed leaving the EU would stop it. It hasn't. Immigration - regular and irregular - has soared. Dont critiscise nigel farage,he is not in power,well not yet anyway,but when he is i guarantee things will change" Have you actually seen the plans for the NHS, as proposed by The New Tory Party (The Reform Party 2025 Limited) | |||
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"I think generally it is a good thing and whilst i understand the fishing community is very unhappy ... which politician can deliver everything that everyone wants? What i crave most of all is a solution/end to illegal immigration/small boat crossings. Brexit has deceived its supporters in two significant ways: first, the expectation that we would effectively manage our own borders; after a decade, what has been achieved? Second, the desire for a blue passport has led to complaints about the necessity of waiting in line during travel. I sometimes wish I could be oblivious to the rhetoric of Farage and his associates. Just about everything that Farage and his ilk promised, the opposite has happened. Migration may be the most obvious example. He claimed leaving the EU would stop it. It hasn't. Immigration - regular and irregular - has soared. Dont critiscise nigel farage,he is not in power,well not yet anyway,but when he is i guarantee things will change He never assumes power, resembling a timid mouse that retreats to its hole when faced with serious situations, much like his behaviour following Brexit." He took on the whole of the EU and won. If you criticise Nigel, perhaps you should first look into the mirror at your own disastrous life. | |||
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"Only Starmer would surrender to the surrender monkeys 😆! Useless bustard he is, need to get rid of him before he does more damage. Struggling to understand the point being made.. It's curious that he expects foreigners to be fluent in English if they wish to remain in the UK. Most Europeans speak English, it’s one of our greatest exports. All Europeans communicate in their native languages; they use English when one cannot converse in their language. Quite correct The French learn English to Speak to German, Italians etc. If we still had the opportunity to live in Italy, I would learn Italian. CAIO Sadly that’s not an option anymore. I find it puzzling why a French person would learn English just to communicate with a German, instead of picking up German since they might not even speak English? You need to travel more" I have undoubtedly travelled more than you | |||
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"I think generally it is a good thing and whilst i understand the fishing community is very unhappy ... which politician can deliver everything that everyone wants? What i crave most of all is a solution/end to illegal immigration/small boat crossings. Brexit has deceived its supporters in two significant ways: first, the expectation that we would effectively manage our own borders; after a decade, what has been achieved? Second, the desire for a blue passport has led to complaints about the necessity of waiting in line during travel. I sometimes wish I could be oblivious to the rhetoric of Farage and his associates. Just about everything that Farage and his ilk promised, the opposite has happened. Migration may be the most obvious example. He claimed leaving the EU would stop it. It hasn't. Immigration - regular and irregular - has soared. Dont critiscise nigel farage,he is not in power,well not yet anyway,but when he is i guarantee things will change" 👎👎👎👎 | |||
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"Only Starmer would surrender to the surrender monkeys 😆! Useless bustard he is, need to get rid of him before he does more damage. Struggling to understand the point being made.. It's curious that he expects foreigners to be fluent in English if they wish to remain in the UK. Most Europeans speak English, it’s one of our greatest exports. All Europeans communicate in their native languages; they use English when one cannot converse in their language. Quite correct The French learn English to Speak to German, Italians etc. If we still had the opportunity to live in Italy, I would learn Italian. CAIO Sadly that’s not an option anymore. I find it puzzling why a French person would learn English just to communicate with a German, instead of picking up German since they might not even speak English? You need to travel more I have undoubtedly travelled more than you "Do you get charged extra for your seat, on travel? | |||
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"I think generally it is a good thing and whilst i understand the fishing community is very unhappy ... which politician can deliver everything that everyone wants? What i crave most of all is a solution/end to illegal immigration/small boat crossings. Brexit has deceived its supporters in two significant ways: first, the expectation that we would effectively manage our own borders; after a decade, what has been achieved? Second, the desire for a blue passport has led to complaints about the necessity of waiting in line during travel. I sometimes wish I could be oblivious to the rhetoric of Farage and his associates. Just about everything that Farage and his ilk promised, the opposite has happened. Migration may be the most obvious example. He claimed leaving the EU would stop it. It hasn't. Immigration - regular and irregular - has soared. Dont critiscise nigel farage,he is not in power,well not yet anyway,but when he is i guarantee things will change" He won a vote with a slogan. He had no plan, and the whole country was paralysed for years as a result. Where is his plan now? He fucked us over once before, and he’ll do it again. | |||
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"Only Starmer would surrender to the surrender monkeys 😆! Useless bustard he is, need to get rid of him before he does more damage. Struggling to understand the point being made.. It's curious that he expects foreigners to be fluent in English if they wish to remain in the UK. Most Europeans speak English, it’s one of our greatest exports. All Europeans communicate in their native languages; they use English when one cannot converse in their language. Quite correct The French learn English to Speak to German, Italians etc. If we still had the opportunity to live in Italy, I would learn Italian. CAIO Sadly that’s not an option anymore. I find it puzzling why a French person would learn English just to communicate with a German, instead of picking up German since they might not even speak English? You need to travel more I have undoubtedly travelled more than you "Quite obviously not | |||
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"I think generally it is a good thing and whilst i understand the fishing community is very unhappy ... which politician can deliver everything that everyone wants? What i crave most of all is a solution/end to illegal immigration/small boat crossings. Brexit has deceived its supporters in two significant ways: first, the expectation that we would effectively manage our own borders; after a decade, what has been achieved? Second, the desire for a blue passport has led to complaints about the necessity of waiting in line during travel. I sometimes wish I could be oblivious to the rhetoric of Farage and his associates. Just about everything that Farage and his ilk promised, the opposite has happened. Migration may be the most obvious example. He claimed leaving the EU would stop it. It hasn't. Immigration - regular and irregular - has soared. Dont critiscise nigel farage,he is not in power,well not yet anyway,but when he is i guarantee things will change He never assumes power, resembling a timid mouse that retreats to its hole when faced with serious situations, much like his behaviour following Brexit. He took on the whole of the EU and won. If you criticise Nigel, perhaps you should first look into the mirror at your own disastrous life." In reality, I lead a much more fulfilling life than you, a disrespectful individual with limited intelligence, and your superior who has achieved nothing except being dismissed by conservatives. | |||
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"I think generally it is a good thing and whilst i understand the fishing community is very unhappy ... which politician can deliver everything that everyone wants? What i crave most of all is a solution/end to illegal immigration/small boat crossings. Brexit has deceived its supporters in two significant ways: first, the expectation that we would effectively manage our own borders; after a decade, what has been achieved? Second, the desire for a blue passport has led to complaints about the necessity of waiting in line during travel. I sometimes wish I could be oblivious to the rhetoric of Farage and his associates. Just about everything that Farage and his ilk promised, the opposite has happened. Migration may be the most obvious example. He claimed leaving the EU would stop it. It hasn't. Immigration - regular and irregular - has soared. Dont critiscise nigel farage,he is not in power,well not yet anyway,but when he is i guarantee things will change He never assumes power, resembling a timid mouse that retreats to its hole when faced with serious situations, much like his behaviour following Brexit. He took on the whole of the EU and won. If you criticise Nigel, perhaps you should first look into the mirror at your own disastrous life. In reality, I lead a much more fulfilling life than you, a disrespectful individual with limited intelligence, and your superior who has achieved nothing except being dismissed by conservatives." Why wasn’t Nigel Farage in the House of Commons today to Question the PM? | |||
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"Only Starmer would surrender to the surrender monkeys 😆! Useless bustard he is, need to get rid of him before he does more damage. Struggling to understand the point being made.. It's curious that he expects foreigners to be fluent in English if they wish to remain in the UK. Most Europeans speak English, it’s one of our greatest exports. All Europeans communicate in their native languages; they use English when one cannot converse in their language. Quite correct The French learn English to Speak to German, Italians etc. If we still had the opportunity to live in Italy, I would learn Italian. CAIO Sadly that’s not an option anymore. I find it puzzling why a French person would learn English just to communicate with a German, instead of picking up German since they might not even speak English? You need to travel more I have undoubtedly travelled more than you
Quite obviously not"I am still awaiting your response with more engaging content beyond the basics. Are you going to provide that, or not? | |||
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" He won a vote with a slogan. He had no plan, and the whole country was paralysed for years as a result. Where is his plan now? He fucked us over once before, and he’ll do it again." During the Scottish Indyref of 2014, Faridge stuck his oar in and accused the SNP of selling the people of Scotland "a pig in a poke". A somewhat bizarre thing for someone who believes in a country gaining it's independence to say but that's the mark of the man. Fast forward less than 2 years and the same loudmouth sold the entire UK "a pig in a poke". A loudmouthed self-serving disingenuous gobshite of a man. | |||
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"Only Starmer would surrender to the surrender monkeys 😆! Useless bustard he is, need to get rid of him before he does more damage. Struggling to understand the point being made.. It's curious that he expects foreigners to be fluent in English if they wish to remain in the UK. Most Europeans speak English, it’s one of our greatest exports. Pity we can't charge people who teach/learn it . " | |||
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"Only Starmer would surrender to the surrender monkeys 😆! Useless bustard he is, need to get rid of him before he does more damage. Struggling to understand the point being made.. It's curious that he expects foreigners to be fluent in English if they wish to remain in the UK. Most Europeans speak English, it’s one of our greatest exports. All Europeans communicate in their native languages; they use English when one cannot converse in their language. Quite correct The French learn English to Speak to German, Italians etc. If we still had the opportunity to live in Italy, I would learn Italian. CAIO Sadly that’s not an option anymore. I find it puzzling why a French person would learn English just to communicate with a German, instead of picking up German since they might not even speak English? You need to travel more I have undoubtedly travelled more than you
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"I think generally it is a good thing and whilst i understand the fishing community is very unhappy ... which politician can deliver everything that everyone wants? What i crave most of all is a solution/end to illegal immigration/small boat crossings. Brexit has deceived its supporters in two significant ways: first, the expectation that we would effectively manage our own borders; after a decade, what has been achieved? Second, the desire for a blue passport has led to complaints about the necessity of waiting in line during travel. I sometimes wish I could be oblivious to the rhetoric of Farage and his associates. Just about everything that Farage and his ilk promised, the opposite has happened. Migration may be the most obvious example. He claimed leaving the EU would stop it. It hasn't. Immigration - regular and irregular - has soared. Dont critiscise nigel farage,he is not in power,well not yet anyway,but when he is i guarantee things will change He never assumes power, resembling a timid mouse that retreats to its hole when faced with serious situations, much like his behaviour following Brexit. He took on the whole of the EU and won. If you criticise Nigel, perhaps you should first look into the mirror at your own disastrous life." Says the obvious internet 'character' on a small forum. | |||
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"Erm, did the country not vote to leave the EU Yes but it’s been proven to be a big mistake." Could you please tell us why | |||
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"I think generally it is a good thing and whilst i understand the fishing community is very unhappy ... which politician can deliver everything that everyone wants? What i crave most of all is a solution/end to illegal immigration/small boat crossings. Brexit has deceived its supporters in two significant ways: first, the expectation that we would effectively manage our own borders; after a decade, what has been achieved? Second, the desire for a blue passport has led to complaints about the necessity of waiting in line during travel. I sometimes wish I could be oblivious to the rhetoric of Farage and his associates. Just about everything that Farage and his ilk promised, the opposite has happened. Migration may be the most obvious example. He claimed leaving the EU would stop it. It hasn't. Immigration - regular and irregular - has soared. Dont critiscise nigel farage,he is not in power,well not yet anyway,but when he is i guarantee things will change He never assumes power, resembling a timid mouse that retreats to its hole when faced with serious situations, much like his behaviour following Brexit. He took on the whole of the EU and won. If you criticise Nigel, perhaps you should first look into the mirror at your own disastrous life." What did he win? Apart from a nice fat pension from a body that he took huge amounts of money from while doing no work. And don't say sovereignty because we had that in the eu. | |||
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" He won a vote with a slogan. He had no plan, and the whole country was paralysed for years as a result. Where is his plan now? He fucked us over once before, and he’ll do it again. During the Scottish Indyref of 2014, Faridge stuck his oar in and accused the SNP of selling the people of Scotland "a pig in a poke". A somewhat bizarre thing for someone who believes in a country gaining it's independence to say but that's the mark of the man. Fast forward less than 2 years and the same loudmouth sold the entire UK "a pig in a poke". A loudmouthed self-serving disingenuous gobshite of a man. " Bang on. | |||
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"Voting to leave the EU, was not a vote to stop all trade and travel, as you are wrongly implying " Absolutely. It done neither trade still went on and travel continued, the difference in trade was we had to go back to customs declarations and clearance , travel was no different . What it did do however was to was allowed the French to turn their back on the refugee camps and boat problems and the UK still gave them money . | |||
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" He won a vote with a slogan. He had no plan, and the whole country was paralysed for years as a result. Where is his plan now? He fucked us over once before, and he’ll do it again. During the Scottish Indyref of 2014, Faridge stuck his oar in and accused the SNP of selling the people of Scotland "a pig in a poke". A somewhat bizarre thing for someone who believes in a country gaining it's independence to say but that's the mark of the man. Fast forward less than 2 years and the same loudmouth sold the entire UK "a pig in a poke". A loudmouthed self-serving disingenuous gobshite of a man. Bang on. " During the Scottish referendum 2014 Labour put to boot in Brown and Darling two Scotsman SNP wouldn’t come up with the answers on Pensions or Defence or what it was going to cost the people , there answer was it will work itself out …. Sadly there still at that stage, bad still taking the taxpayers cash . | |||
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"Seems good to me. But plenty won't. You dont mind your government lying to u then" What like the oven ready deal, the big red bus….? | |||
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"I’m an EU citizen and have lived in various countries on the European continent for over 40 years. I’m surprised at the rose tinted glasses syndrome on display here. The EU is corrupt from top to bottom and has been increasingly so for the last 30 years It’s had you over a barrel for the last 9 years, mainly because of your own division over Brexit, incorporating unnecessary hurdles and red tape. In a nutshell the EU have been biding their time, waiting for you to elect a weak leader, so they can get their clutches in and pull you back in ….…… and along came Starmer right on time " This! | |||
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"It repairs some of the damage done by the route those dumb Tories took us down, when they were competing with each other to see who could drown us in the most red tape" . Smile that you actually believe all this Labour bullshit. Deal is worth nothing to the people of UK. Just another Starmer I'll thought out publicity stunt yo fool the few of you | |||
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"Only Starmer would surrender to the surrender monkeys 😆! Useless bustard he is, need to get rid of him before he does more damage. Struggling to understand the point being made.. It's curious that he expects foreigners to be fluent in English if they wish to remain in the UK. Most Europeans speak English, it’s one of our greatest exports. All Europeans communicate in their native languages; they use English when one cannot converse in their language. Quite correct The French learn English to Speak to German, Italians etc. If we still had the opportunity to live in Italy, I would learn Italian. CAIO Sadly that’s not an option anymore. I find it puzzling why a French person would learn English just to communicate with a German, instead of picking up German since they might not even speak English? You need to travel more I have undoubtedly travelled more than you
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"Just wondering what members think of the brexit reset deal, is it a good thing or a betrayal to everyone who voted in the referendum? " Starmer's Brexit deal is a baffling U-turn that undermines the democratic mandate of the referendum. We left the EU over concerns about its autocratic tendencies and disregard for national sovereignty, yet this deal seems to re-entrench those same dynamics. By surrendering influence without accountability, Starmer's repeating the very issues we voted to escape. This raises serious questions about the future of British democracy and our ability to self-govern. The implications are far-reaching. If we're bound by EU rules without a seat at the table, what's the point of Brexit? We'll be locked into a relationship that stifles our economic potential and erodes our sovereignty, all while pretending to uphold the referendum result. The public's rightly cynical about politicians going back on their word, and Starmer's deal looks like more of the same. It's time for some real accountability and transparency about what this deal really means for the UK's future. | |||
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"I’m an EU citizen and have lived in various countries on the European continent for over 40 years. I’m surprised at the rose tinted glasses syndrome on display here. The EU is corrupt from top to bottom and has been increasingly so for the last 30 years It’s had you over a barrel for the last 9 years, mainly because of your own division over Brexit, incorporating unnecessary hurdles and red tape. In a nutshell the EU have been biding their time, waiting for you to elect a weak leader, so they can get their clutches in and pull you back in ….…… and along came Starmer right on time Leaving the eu has cost the country and many businesses, its ridiculous not to trade freely with our nearest neighbours. " Of course it’s ridiculous - ridiculous for both sides but which side has imposed the hurdles to make it more difficult and costly? There is a shop in my village selling British food products, since Brexit the EU has forced businesses like this to put a separate label on every single item with a detailed ingredients list, it’s obviously hugely time consuming and an expensive job A Chinese shop, directly across the road selling foodstuff, imported from Asian and African countries can sell their products without any labels whatsoever -Items from Somalia to Cambodia and every shit hole country in between Just a small example of how the EU have retaliated and enforced unnecessary red tape on British products, which it doesn’t impose on other third countries or even other third world countries for that matter It was always a case of which side blinked first, the EU or the U.K. and with Trumps tariffs we (in the EU) were getting ready to blink first. We can only look on enviously at your trade deal with the US, which ironically was only achievable due to Brexit | |||
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"All in or all out, no faffing. The Brexit we had previously was useless." Good luck manning the passport check-points on the border in Ireland | |||
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"Only Starmer would surrender to the surrender monkeys 😆! Useless bustard he is, need to get rid of him before he does more damage. Struggling to understand the point being made.. It's curious that he expects foreigners to be fluent in English if they wish to remain in the UK. Most Europeans speak English, it’s one of our greatest exports. All Europeans communicate in their native languages; they use English when one cannot converse in their language. Quite correct The French learn English to Speak to German, Italians etc. If we still had the opportunity to live in Italy, I would learn Italian. CAIO Sadly that’s not an option anymore. I find it puzzling why a French person would learn English just to communicate with a German, instead of picking up German since they might not even speak English? You need to travel more I have undoubtedly travelled more than you
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""We left the EU over concerns about its autocratic tendencies and disregard for national sovereignty"" Neither was on the ballot paper. AFAIC, a high percentage of brexit voters did so due to intolerance, prejudice and stupidity. Most of them couldn't spell EU. Another thing that wasn't on the ballot paper was leaving the single market and customs union, something that has damaged the economy of this country to a massive degree. Instead, you had political fuckwits like David Davis and Rees-Mogg spinning us crap like "they need us more than we need them" and "food and bills will be cheaper in brexit Britain". | |||
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"Just wondering what members think of the brexit reset deal, is it a good thing or a betrayal to everyone who voted in the referendum? " Not all those who voted in the referendum voted to leave. I still resent the loss of membership. Trying to negotiate abilities to trade which were part of our membership. | |||
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"Brexit was a nationalist fuelled protest then and remains so now….. The detail and ramifications of Johnsons actions were never understood or tested in practice. As a result the separation of the uk from Europe remains in a shroud of political chaos and dysfunctional opinions whereby the issues triggering voters at the time remain completely unaddressed. Anyway, given that Europe (including the uk) is now facing a geopolitical crisis second only to WW2, the recent trade deal is frankly academic. The bigger picture may well resolve all the differences people have with each other and in a way putting an X on a ballot paper could never have……" This argument relies on several assumptions and oversimplifications. Attributing the entire Brexit movement to nationalism overlooks concerns about sovereignty, economic autonomy, and immigration that also drove the debate. The UK government did conduct impact assessments, and experts weighed in on potential outcomes. While the complexity of the issue and long transition period contributed to ongoing challenges, it's not entirely accurate to say the detail and ramifications of Boris Johnson's actions were never understood or tested. The Brexit process has indeed been contentious, but describing it as "political chaos and dysfunctional opinions" doesn't acknowledge the genuine differences in opinion amongst politicians and citizens. Some issues, like immigration and economic concerns, have been addressed to some extent through new policies and trade agreements, though their impact is still being evaluated. The argument also suggests the recent trade deal is "frankly academic" due to the geopolitical crisis facing Europe. However, this overlooks the significance of the trade deal in governing the UK's relationship with the EU. Lastly, dismissing the Brexit vote as simply "putting an X on a ballot paper" undermines the democratic process and the will of the people who voted for Brexit. | |||
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"Brexit was a nationalist fuelled protest then and remains so now….. The detail and ramifications of Johnsons actions were never understood or tested in practice. As a result the separation of the uk from Europe remains in a shroud of political chaos and dysfunctional opinions whereby the issues triggering voters at the time remain completely unaddressed. Anyway, given that Europe (including the uk) is now facing a geopolitical crisis second only to WW2, the recent trade deal is frankly academic. The bigger picture may well resolve all the differences people have with each other and in a way putting an X on a ballot paper could never have…… This argument relies on several assumptions and oversimplifications. Attributing the entire Brexit movement to nationalism overlooks concerns about sovereignty, economic autonomy, and immigration that also drove the debate. The UK government did conduct impact assessments, and experts weighed in on potential outcomes. While the complexity of the issue and long transition period contributed to ongoing challenges, it's not entirely accurate to say the detail and ramifications of Boris Johnson's actions were never understood or tested. The Brexit process has indeed been contentious, but describing it as "political chaos and dysfunctional opinions" doesn't acknowledge the genuine differences in opinion amongst politicians and citizens. Some issues, like immigration and economic concerns, have been addressed to some extent through new policies and trade agreements, though their impact is still being evaluated. The argument also suggests the recent trade deal is "frankly academic" due to the geopolitical crisis facing Europe. However, this overlooks the significance of the trade deal in governing the UK's relationship with the EU. Lastly, dismissing the Brexit vote as simply "putting an X on a ballot paper" undermines the democratic process and the will of the people who voted for Brexit. " If nationalism isn’t all about sovereignty, economic independence, immigration I don’t know what else it is…… on that premise alone the Brexit debate was and still is a nationalist fuelled political argument with minimal value for Europe or the uk. The reality of trade deals is they have to be mutually negotiated and governed, whilst on the other hand a collective response to a military threat and imposed tyranny may prove a far more effective tool in healing the far too obvious and dysfunctional divides that exist today. | |||
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"Now that people have experienced the practical effects of Brexit - higher food prices, red tape at borders, longer passport queues, the nightmare of travelling with pets or unaccompanied luggage - these esoteric arguments about sovereignty etc just don't cut it any more. The immigration argument - vote to leave to stop immigration - has also been shown to be a bogus ruse." While it's true that Brexit has brought practical challenges, it's inaccurate to dismiss the sovereignty argument as "esoteric." For many Brextiers, the desire for self-governance and control over laws and policies was a fundamental principle, not just an abstract concept. Moreover, the impact of Brexit on immigration has been more complex and multifaceted than a simple "bogus ruse." The UK has implemented new immigration policies, and while some argue they've not achieved their intended goals, others see them as a necessary step towards a more targeted and efficient system. It's also worth noting that many of the specific issues raised, such as difficulties with travelling with pets or navigating border procedures, primarily affect those who regularly travel to or live in EU countries. For individuals who don't engage in international travel or trade, the practical implications of Brexit may be less direct. The practical effects of Brexit are certainly significant for some, but they don't necessarily invalidate the underlying motivations or principles that drove the Leave campaign, and their relevance can vary depending on individual circumstances. | |||
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"Brexit was a nationalist fuelled protest then and remains so now….. The detail and ramifications of Johnsons actions were never understood or tested in practice. As a result the separation of the uk from Europe remains in a shroud of political chaos and dysfunctional opinions whereby the issues triggering voters at the time remain completely unaddressed. Anyway, given that Europe (including the uk) is now facing a geopolitical crisis second only to WW2, the recent trade deal is frankly academic. The bigger picture may well resolve all the differences people have with each other and in a way putting an X on a ballot paper could never have…… This argument relies on several assumptions and oversimplifications. Attributing the entire Brexit movement to nationalism overlooks concerns about sovereignty, economic autonomy, and immigration that also drove the debate. The UK government did conduct impact assessments, and experts weighed in on potential outcomes. While the complexity of the issue and long transition period contributed to ongoing challenges, it's not entirely accurate to say the detail and ramifications of Boris Johnson's actions were never understood or tested. The Brexit process has indeed been contentious, but describing it as "political chaos and dysfunctional opinions" doesn't acknowledge the genuine differences in opinion amongst politicians and citizens. Some issues, like immigration and economic concerns, have been addressed to some extent through new policies and trade agreements, though their impact is still being evaluated. The argument also suggests the recent trade deal is "frankly academic" due to the geopolitical crisis facing Europe. However, this overlooks the significance of the trade deal in governing the UK's relationship with the EU. Lastly, dismissing the Brexit vote as simply "putting an X on a ballot paper" undermines the democratic process and the will of the people who voted for Brexit. If nationalism isn’t all about sovereignty, economic independence, immigration I don’t know what else it is…… on that premise alone the Brexit debate was and still is a nationalist fuelled political argument with minimal value for Europe or the uk. The reality of trade deals is they have to be mutually negotiated and governed, whilst on the other hand a collective response to a military threat and imposed tyranny may prove a far more effective tool in healing the far too obvious and dysfunctional divides that exist today. " While nationalism may often be associated with sovereignty, economic independence, and immigration, it's reductionist to assume these are the only drivers of nationalist sentiment. Patriotism, cultural identity, and a sense of shared history and values can also play significant roles. Furthermore, the Brexit debate wasn't solely driven by nationalism; concerns about economic opportunity, regulatory autonomy, and the UK's global role were also prominent. Moreover, the idea that Brexit has minimal value for Europe or the UK overlooks potential benefits such as increased flexibility in policymaking, new trade opportunities, and the ability to forge new relationships. The assertion that collective responses are always more effective also warrants scrutiny; sometimes, national interests and priorities may diverge, making individual action more suitable. Lastly, the suggestion that a collective response to a military threat would automatically heal divides is overly optimistic. Unity in the face of adversity is possible, but it's not a guarantee, and historical examples show that crises can also exacerbate existing divisions. | |||
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"It’s a good thing because we never got anything done the last time ( "Would you care to elaborate? | |||
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"It’s a good thing because we never got anything done the last time ( "That's inaccurate. As a result of Brexit, the UK has implemented several significant changes. It's taken control of its own laws and regulations, allowing for more flexibility in policymaking. A new points-based immigration system has been introduced, designed to attract skilled workers and address labour shortages. The UK has also established new trade agreements with countries around the world, including Australia, Japan, and the US. Additionally, it's gained control over its own fisheries policy, allowing for more UK waters to be reserved for British fishermen. These changes represent tangible outcomes of the Brexit process. | |||
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"It’s a good thing because we never got anything done the last time (
That's inaccurate. As a result of Brexit, the UK has implemented several significant changes.
It's taken control of its own laws and regulations, allowing for more flexibility in policymaking. A new points-based immigration system has been introduced, designed to attract skilled workers and address labour shortages. The UK has also established new trade agreements with countries around the world, including Australia, Japan, and the US. Additionally, it's gained control over its own fisheries policy, allowing for more UK waters to be reserved for British fishermen. These changes represent tangible outcomes of the Brexit process."Lolol immigration has been a soaraway success as a result of Brexit lololol | |||
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"Farage is a lieing bastard with a knack of getting naive people to believe him." You can say that about every single politician, don’t be so naive | |||
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"2016 Net inward migration: 330,000 Number of people who crossed the channel in small boats (2014-16): 9 2022 Net inward migration: 872,000 Number of people who crossed the channel in small boats: 45,755 Bravo Brexit! "That’s more to do with lying politicians refusing to take action against the boat people. Stop there free bees, house them in tents in secure areas Deport them asap with no access to legal aid. Also asylum seekers who claim to be persecuted by their own country should not be allowed re entry to the UK after they spend their holidays in said country. I’m sure after we started doing this they would be less likely to come. | |||
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"Farage is a lieing bastard with a knack of getting naive people to believe him. You can say that about every single politician, don’t be so naive "Whilst you can say that about most politicians, the poster to whom you are replying, is hardly being naïve. Farage has made lying a work of art and his rhetoric appeals to the gullible. Remember him calling 23/06/2016 'independence Day' when in fact it was voting day and no one knew the outcome. However people seriously believed that we would leave the EU that weekend. Pull up the drawbridge, send all EU workers packing, never see another immigrant darken our shores and live in this wonderful land of 'milk and honey' ever after. A bit like the Faragista Party Mk 3's election manifesto. | |||
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"2016 Net inward migration: 330,000 Number of people who crossed the channel in small boats (2014-16): 9 2022 Net inward migration: 872,000 Number of people who crossed the channel in small boats: 45,755 Bravo Brexit!
That’s more to do with lying politicians refusing to take action against the boat people.
Stop there free bees,
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Deport them asap with no access to legal aid.
Also asylum seekers who claim to be persecuted by their own country should not be allowed re entry to the UK after they spend their holidays in said country.
I’m sure after we started doing this they would be less likely to come. "tAkE bAcK cOnTrOl 🤡 So we did Immigration soared Bravo Brexit! | |||
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"2016 Net inward migration: 330,000 Number of people who crossed the channel in small boats (2014-16): 9 2022 Net inward migration: 872,000 Number of people who crossed the channel in small boats: 45,755 Bravo Brexit!
That’s more to do with lying politicians refusing to take action against the boat people.
Stop there free bees,
house them in tents in secure areas
Deport them asap with no access to legal aid.
Also asylum seekers who claim to be persecuted by their own country should not be allowed re entry to the UK after they spend their holidays in said country.
I’m sure after we started doing this they would be less likely to come.
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Bravo Brexit!"Wisdom as ever from our dear old sage Sara, one can therefore deduce that if we were still in the EU, all those thousands upon thousands of pesky immigrants would have thought... 'Hmmmm....oh dearie me and golly goshie! 🤔🤔🤔...The UK is part of the EU, we cannot invade their little, tiny and also very small island with our many boats.' I guess the EU sign on the door was like a 'KEEP OUT!!' sign for immigrants, and they were just waiting for the Brexit notice to move in eh? 😅🤣😭 | |||
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That's inaccurate. As a result of Brexit, the UK has implemented several significant changes.
It's taken control of its own laws and regulations, allowing for more flexibility in policymaking. A new points-based immigration system has been introduced, designed to attract skilled workers and address labour shortages. The UK has also established new trade agreements with countries around the world, including Australia, Japan, and the US. Additionally, it's gained control over its own fisheries policy, allowing for more UK waters to be reserved for British fishermen. These changes represent tangible outcomes of the Brexit process."WELL SAID | |||
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"“The only way to take back control of immigration is to Vote Leave on 23 June” - Boris Johnson, 2016 🤡" On dear Sara, sadly once again your argument is flawed because you're rather deviouly only selectively quoting Boris Johnson's statement. By only quoting the first part, you're omitting the crucial context that explains the reasoning behind voting to leave! The full quote shows Boris was arguing for democratic consent and the ability for the British public to vote for those who make the laws, including on immigration. By cherry-picking the quote, you're misrepresenting Boris's argument and taking it out of context. The full quote is:- "The only way to take back control of immigration is to Vote Leave on 23rd June. The public should be able to vote for those who make the laws of this country including on immigration. It is intolerable to continue without democratic consent for Britain’s immigration policy." By opting to leave out the second part of the quote, it changes the complete context of the statement, it's an age old political ploy that simply will not wash here! 😁 | |||
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"“The only way to take back control of immigration is to Vote Leave on 23 June” - Boris Johnson, 2016 🤡 On dear Sara, sadly once again your argument is flawed because you're rather deviouly only selectively quoting Boris Johnson's statement. By only quoting the first part, you're omitting the crucial context that explains the reasoning behind voting to leave! The full quote shows Boris was arguing for democratic consent and the ability for the British public to vote for those who make the laws, including on immigration. By cherry-picking the quote, you're misrepresenting Boris's argument and taking it out of context. The full quote is:- "The only way to take back control of immigration is to Vote Leave on 23rd June. The public should be able to vote for those who make the laws of this country including on immigration. It is intolerable to continue without democratic consent for Britain’s immigration policy." By opting to leave out the second part of the quote, it changes the complete context of the statement, it's an age old political ploy that simply will not wash here! 😁" Er, that's the only part of the quote on the Vote Leave website. | |||
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"“The only way to take back control of immigration is to Vote Leave on 23 June” - Boris Johnson, 2016 🤡 On dear Sara, sadly once again your argument is flawed because you're rather deviouly only selectively quoting Boris Johnson's statement. By only quoting the first part, you're omitting the crucial context that explains the reasoning behind voting to leave! The full quote shows Boris was arguing for democratic consent and the ability for the British public to vote for those who make the laws, including on immigration. By cherry-picking the quote, you're misrepresenting Boris's argument and taking it out of context. The full quote is:- "The only way to take back control of immigration is to Vote Leave on 23rd June. The public should be able to vote for those who make the laws of this country including on immigration. It is intolerable to continue without democratic consent for Britain’s immigration policy." By opting to leave out the second part of the quote, it changes the complete context of the statement, it's an age old political ploy that simply will not wash here! 😁 Er, that's the only part of the quote on the Vote Leave website. " Thus highlighting the need to quote from the complete and original recorded source, the full quote as relayed above is indeed only one small paragraph from the full speech in which he elaborates in depth on the case to leave the EU. | |||
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"“The only way to take back control of immigration is to Vote Leave on 23 June” - Boris Johnson, 2016 🤡 On dear Sara, sadly once again your argument is flawed because you're rather deviouly only selectively quoting Boris Johnson's statement. By only quoting the first part, you're omitting the crucial context that explains the reasoning behind voting to leave! The full quote shows Boris was arguing for democratic consent and the ability for the British public to vote for those who make the laws, including on immigration. By cherry-picking the quote, you're misrepresenting Boris's argument and taking it out of context. The full quote is:- "The only way to take back control of immigration is to Vote Leave on 23rd June. The public should be able to vote for those who make the laws of this country including on immigration. It is intolerable to continue without democratic consent for Britain’s immigration policy." By opting to leave out the second part of the quote, it changes the complete context of the statement, it's an age old political ploy that simply will not wash here! 😁 Er, that's the only part of the quote on the Vote Leave website. Thus highlighting the need to quote from the complete and original recorded source, the full quote as relayed above is indeed only one small paragraph from the full speech in which he elaborates in depth on the case to leave the EU. " So you're accepting now that Vote Leave was a con trick with its selective messaging. Well done. | |||
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"“The only way to take back control of immigration is to Vote Leave on 23 June” - Boris Johnson, 2016 🤡 On dear Sara, sadly once again your argument is flawed because you're rather deviouly only selectively quoting Boris Johnson's statement. By only quoting the first part, you're omitting the crucial context that explains the reasoning behind voting to leave! The full quote shows Boris was arguing for democratic consent and the ability for the British public to vote for those who make the laws, including on immigration. By cherry-picking the quote, you're misrepresenting Boris's argument and taking it out of context. The full quote is:- "The only way to take back control of immigration is to Vote Leave on 23rd June. The public should be able to vote for those who make the laws of this country including on immigration. It is intolerable to continue without democratic consent for Britain’s immigration policy." By opting to leave out the second part of the quote, it changes the complete context of the statement, it's an age old political ploy that simply will not wash here! 😁 Er, that's the only part of the quote on the Vote Leave website. Thus highlighting the need to quote from the complete and original recorded source, the full quote as relayed above is indeed only one small paragraph from the full speech in which he elaborates in depth on the case to leave the EU. So you're accepting now that Vote Leave was a con trick with its selective messaging. Well done." No!! No!!!.... Please don't attempt to distort my words, you will inevitably fail! I was merely pointing out your own error of only selecting part of a quote in an failed attempt to support the erroneous point you were attempting to make!!.... Now perhaps why not try to have a few sips of chilled lemon barley water and have a wee siesta, sweetheart, it usually has a most soothing effect and it's good for the soul of course! | |||
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"Rejoin the EU? Yeah!
... But this time we actually don't have any democratic input, far less a veto. Oh!
I thought Starmer was the smart one."Don't think anyone has ever called him smart.... | |||
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" No!! No!!!.... Please don't attempt to distort my words, you will inevitably fail! I was merely pointing out your own error of only selecting part of a quote in an failed attempt to support the erroneous point you were attempting to make!!.... Now perhaps why not try to have a few sips of chilled lemon barley water and have a wee siesta, sweetheart, it usually has a most soothing effect and it's good for the soul of course! " Not my error at all. I looked up the Vote Leave website and that was the quote they used in big bold letters to get their anti-immigration message across. So if you've got a problem with it, you've got a problem with the honesty of Vote Leave. | |||
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"QED:- As ever:- in error she mightily glories!!😂 " Factual information posted on the very website.That is the facts , whether full quotation of the Bojo clown 🤡 speech is used or not, that you would have to concede or do actual facts not really matter any more, a bit like the idiot's bus, the queues of migrants on the side of vans etc Farage's forlorn attempts to hang onto Trump's coat tails, appealing to the lowest common denominator in society as his private companies own little malleable support... Hmmm . Mx 😜 | |||
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"In the 2 years prior to the Brexit referendum, the total number of people who crossed the Channel in small boats was . . . 9 " That's because there were all arriving in the back of lorries during that period. | |||
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"It repairs some of the damage done by the route those dumb Tories took us down, when they were competing with each other to see who could drown us in the most red tape. Smile that you actually believe all this Labour bullshit. Deal is worth nothing to the people of UK. Just another Starmer I'll thought out publicity stunt yo fool the few of you" Worth nothing? I think we should let time be the judge, but surely the country will benefit from easier trade conditions, fewer barriers in both directions and simple stuff like improved relationships. | |||
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"Just wondering what members think of the brexit reset deal, is it a good thing or a betrayal to everyone who voted in the referendum? Starmer's Brexit deal is a baffling U-turn that undermines the democratic mandate of the referendum. We left the EU over concerns about its autocratic tendencies and disregard for national sovereignty, yet this deal seems to re-entrench those same dynamics. By surrendering influence without accountability, Starmer's repeating the very issues we voted to escape. This raises serious questions about the future of British democracy and our ability to self-govern. The implications are far-reaching. If we're bound by EU rules without a seat at the table, what's the point of Brexit? We'll be locked into a relationship that stifles our economic potential and erodes our sovereignty, all while pretending to uphold the referendum result. The public's rightly cynical about politicians going back on their word, and Starmer's deal looks like more of the same. It's time for some real accountability and transparency about what this deal really means for the UK's future." But there was accountability when we were members, European laws/rules etc were not done to us, but formulated by us with others. Sovereignty is an interesting concept, and no one seems to bring it up in relation to other trade deals. So the situation we are in is because of Brexit.. that is no input but rules applied. | |||
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" Sovereignty is an interesting concept, and no one seems to bring it up in relation to other trade deals. ." That's the thing the pro-Brexit people never give me the impression of actually understanding - every trade agreement involves a loss or dilution of sovereignty. | |||
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"It's a betrayal of the British people don't forget the that over 17 million people voted against staying in Europe he as told us nothing but lies from the word go I don't believe a word this government says " People have changed their minds, get over it. | |||
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"It's a betrayal of the British people don't forget the that over 17 million people voted against staying in Europe he as told us nothing but lies from the word go I don't believe a word this government says " Relax. You'll live longer. | |||
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"It's a betrayal of the British people don't forget the that over 17 million people voted against staying in Europe he as told us nothing but lies from the word go I don't believe a word this government says " You can fool some of the people some of the time, you can’t fool all of the people all of the time. He’s done a deal, with the biggest economy that nearest to the U.K. it’s perfect business. | |||
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"It's a betrayal of the British people don't forget the that over 17 million people voted against staying in Europe he as told us nothing but lies from the word go I don't believe a word this government says " Which means 30 million didn’t vote to leave | |||
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"It's a betrayal of the British people don't forget the that over 17 million people voted against staying in Europe he as told us nothing but lies from the word go I don't believe a word this government says Which means 30 million didn’t vote to leave " It doesn’t mean 30 million voted not to leave if they did we wouldn’t have left it just means there are millions out there who couldn’t be bothered to vote and when it didn’t go their way they complain, if you don’t vote don’t bitch x by the way I am in no way suggesting you didn’t vote | |||
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"It's a betrayal of the British people don't forget the that over 17 million people voted against staying in Europe he as told us nothing but lies from the word go I don't believe a word this government says . " A majority of people voted to leave the EU. So the UK left the EU. We have still left the EU. What is the betrayal? | |||
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"It's a betrayal of the British people don't forget the that over 17 million people voted against staying in Europe he as told us nothing but lies from the word go I don't believe a word this government says . A majority of people voted to leave the EU. So the UK left the EU. We have still left the EU. What is the betrayal?" Completely the other way around. What have the Brexit supporters accomplished for the UK so far? Nothing significant. At least there have been some positive developments. | |||
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" 17 million voted to leave, ." 2.8 million of whom are now dead. | |||
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"The Brexiteers need to get a grip on reality. Labour won a landslide last July on a manifesto that contained the following: "With Labour, Britain will stay outside of the EU. But to seize the opportunities ahead, we must make Brexit work. We will reset the relationship and seek to deepen ties with our European friends, neighbours and allies. That does not mean reopening the divisions of the past. There will be no return to the single market, the customs union, or freedom of movement.” It seems the new Government is doing exactly what it said in its manifesto. You need an enormous chip on your shoulder to see that as "betrayal". " Totally correct. Their manifesto did say that and I predicted at the time it would be one area of their manifesto that they would implement. True also that they got a massive majority in the Commons although hardly an overwhelming endorsement by the votes cast. However things are what they are. The 'Brexit reset' was inevitable. May be a good thing in some aspects but not others. Will cannot do much about it and need to wait and see. | |||
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"The UK is not perceived as an appealing place to live by residents of other European nations. What is all the commotion about? The Brexit supporters need to take action to advance the economy; merely talking without results over the years has led to no progress and will not yield any in the future. We require tangible actions; enough with the empty rhetoric." Basically Trade baby Trade Get the Bank Account Stashed full of cash 💰 | |||
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"Exactly. The Brexit fan club always bleats about what they don’t want. Yawn, that’s old news. They need to join 2025 instead of wallowing in pre-2016 era." Essentially, it is a loud presence lacking substance, characterized by a sense of emptiness and monotony. | |||
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"Exactly. The Brexit fan club always bleats about what they don’t want. Yawn, that’s old news. They need to join 2025 instead of wallowing in pre-2016 era. Essentially, it is a loud presence lacking substance, characterized by a sense of emptiness and monotony." "It is a tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." | |||
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"Just wondering what members think of the brexit reset deal, is it a good thing or a betrayal to everyone who voted in the referendum? " I'd be very happy for leave voters to be betrayed. | |||
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"The UK is not perceived as an appealing place to live by residents of other European nations. What is all the commotion about? The Brexit supporters need to take action to advance the economy; merely talking without results over the years has led to no progress and will not yield any in the future. We require tangible actions; enough with the empty rhetoric." Not so sure about that. Lots of EU residents--especially Poles--flocked over here in the '00s and early '10s. Seemed happy enough. Blended in well and often happily took on some of the jobs that a lot of Brits were reluctant to. To me, a hotelier at the time, they were a godsend. Cheerful, hard-working and none of this phoning in at the weekend claiming to have a stomach bug or flu aka a hangover. | |||
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