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"What are your thoughts on this being mandatory for sex affenders and also if anyone wanted to lower there sexual desires?" What if the so called sex offender is then proven to be innocent years later and a miscarriage of justice | |||
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"What are your thoughts on this being mandatory for sex affenders and also if anyone wanted to lower there sexual desires?" Is chemical castration effectively the ingestion of the same hormone pills that MtF transexuals take, which shrivels their willies? I seem to recall this was part of the punishment imposed on Turing for being gay, whence he committed suicide. | |||
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"Enforced medication is a slippery slope , so I am against." Yes cutting shoplifters hand off will follow !! | |||
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"What are your thoughts on this being mandatory for sex affenders and also if anyone wanted to lower there sexual desires? Is chemical castration effectively the ingestion of the same hormone pills that MtF transexuals take, which shrivels their willies? I seem to recall this was part of the punishment imposed on Turing for being gay, whence he committed suicide. " I was thinking about him too when I read about this. Mx | |||
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"What are your thoughts on this being mandatory for sex affenders and also if anyone wanted to lower there sexual desires? What if the so called sex offender is then proven to be innocent years later and a miscarriage of justice " They take the implant out. Simples. I think it's a pretty good policy | |||
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"Enforced medication is a slippery slope , so I am against. Yes cutting shoplifters hand off will follow !!" like in saudi | |||
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"Enforced medication is a slippery slope , so I am against. Yes cutting shoplifters hand off will follow !! like in saudi" What's the reoffending rate in Saudi? | |||
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"What are your thoughts on this being mandatory for sex affenders and also if anyone wanted to lower there sexual desires? What if the so called sex offender is then proven to be innocent years later and a miscarriage of justice They take the implant out. Simples. I think it's a pretty good policy " It's Nothing Like Simples Your LH and FSH will be zero Educate Yourself before making stupid statements. | |||
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"What are your thoughts on this being mandatory for sex affenders and also if anyone wanted to lower there sexual desires? What if the so called sex offender is then proven to be innocent years later and a miscarriage of justice They take the implant out. Simples. I think it's a pretty good policy " But is it 'simples'. Could take several years for an injustice to be reversed e.g. a guy recently got proved innocent after 38 years in prison for murder. I'm no expert but very much doubt your shrivelling cock and balls will suddenly grow back to their original size and you will be potent again. It has been on of the arguments about puberty blockers for teenagers who think they might be trans. The idea might be good. If the 'offender' volunteers then fair enough. If it is a serious serial offender then perhaps it should be mandatory. However it is still very much a grey area like the death penalty. | |||
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"What are your thoughts on this being mandatory for sex affenders and also if anyone wanted to lower there sexual desires? What if the so called sex offender is then proven to be innocent years later and a miscarriage of justice " Maybe just do it to ones where there is 100% proof of the crime, DNA, video footage etc | |||
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"Enforced medication is a slippery slope , so I am against. Yes cutting shoplifters hand off will follow !! like in saudi What's the reoffending rate in Saudi? about 50 per cent "That's quite handy then  | |||
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"What are your thoughts on this being mandatory for sex affenders and also if anyone wanted to lower there sexual desires?" Maybe let the victims decide | |||
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"What are your thoughts on this being mandatory for sex affenders and also if anyone wanted to lower there sexual desires? What if the so called sex offender is then proven to be innocent years later and a miscarriage of justice They take the implant out. Simples. I think it's a pretty good policy But is it 'simples'. Could take several years for an injustice to be reversed e.g. a guy recently got proved innocent after 38 years in prison for murder. I'm no expert but very much doubt your shrivelling cock and balls will suddenly grow back to their original size and you will be potent again. It has been on of the arguments about puberty blockers for teenagers who think they might be trans. The idea might be good. If the 'offender' volunteers then fair enough. If it is a serious serial offender then perhaps it should be mandatory. However it is still very much a grey area like the death penalty." Doesn't shrivel anything, just switches of the desire. Little knowledge is dangerous | |||
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"Two words. Alan Turin The priority should always be towards rehabilitation over such extreme measures such as chemical castration. Many who have been already subjected and offered to be chemically castrated have severely been left chemically in balanced and have ended up taking their lives. If the point of this chemical approach is to in effect unbalance the individual to such a degree that they commit suicide, then the system has delved to same depths that the individuals that commit these sex crimes.. Currently the ‘fat brush’ term of Sex Offender can slapped on from one end those who commit the most heinous crime, to the other end of the spectrum for those who have porn and dopamine addictions. Currently all sex offenders are treated with the same completely inadequate programs, with a one treatment fits all approach that doesn’t even acknowledged complex issues like dopamine addition, the same chemical released in the brain that initiates gambling, alcohol and drug addictive issues. Anyone that is set to prison for any for sex offence is marked for life, the system insures upon release will never be able to gain employment again, many are made homeless, many loose any level support base to help them, with no rehabilitation offered from probation to help them put their lives back together and prevent any future return to committing future crimes. Now the government want is to add in chemical destabilisation to add to the life long sentence. No company will ever entertain the idea of employing a sex offender. The probation service is hopelessly inadequate and have no capacity to deal with these complex issues.. The government fat brush of chemical castration to dealing with these issues is woefully wrong and very much like Alan Turing who save the UK in the Second World War, now when many years have passed that the decision to employ chemicals castration was wrong. Too late for the family of Mr Turing where was their compensation? Once we have a much better understanding of why individuals commit these sort of crimes, and how they can be clinically treated or alternatively require to locked up permanent for the better of society, will we look back an see how very much the short sightedness to these Media grabbing headlines and idiotic knee jerk approach to solving problems we still don’t understand fully. As usual no one will be held to accountant for these poorly researched governmental proposals. " Well said | |||
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"It is illegal to administer a substance to a person without their consent of knowledge, whether they be a convicted offender or not. If an offender chooses and consents to “chemical castration” as a medication to avoid re-offending that’s their decision." Most, paedophiles and rapists hate the desire, they'll happily take a drug/ injected with a plant that will keep them their freedoms | |||
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"Enforced medication is a slippery slope , so I am against. Yes cutting shoplifters hand off will follow !! like in saudi What's the reoffending rate in Saudi? about 50 per cent
That's quite handy then "You deserve a round of applause...... oh wait. | |||
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"Enforced medication is a slippery slope , so I am against. Yes cutting shoplifters hand off will follow !! like in saudi What's the reoffending rate in Saudi? about 50 per cent
That's quite handy then
You deserve a round of applause...... oh wait. "Your comparing apples with carrots. You can't compare a liberal democracy with a totalitarian religious state | |||
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"What are your thoughts on this being mandatory for sex affenders and also if anyone wanted to lower there sexual desires? What if the so called sex offender is then proven to be innocent years later and a miscarriage of justice Maybe just do it to ones where there is 100% proof of the crime, DNA, video footage etc" So where do you draw the line? As there are still many miscarriages of justice. With AI it is perfectly possible for generate video content, have the police ever been know to alter evidence? DNA is not 100% conclusive, what if the person accused is a twin? What happens when a chemical castrated person is found to be innocent? Too late for them then, you’ve unbalanced them for life, just shake your shoulder and oh well and then who gets held to account? No one. | |||
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"What are your thoughts on this being mandatory for sex affenders and also if anyone wanted to lower there sexual desires? What if the so called sex offender is then proven to be innocent years later and a miscarriage of justice Maybe just do it to ones where there is 100% proof of the crime, DNA, video footage etc So where do you draw the line? As there are still many miscarriages of justice. With AI it is perfectly possible for generate video content, have the police ever been know to alter evidence? DNA is not 100% conclusive, what if the person accused is a twin? What happens when a chemical castrated person is found to be innocent? Too late for them then, you’ve unbalanced them for life, just shake your shoulder and oh well and then who gets held to account? No one. " Your scenarios are in the realm of minute possibilities all of which could be taken into account or corroborated | |||
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"What are your thoughts on this being mandatory for sex affenders and also if anyone wanted to lower there sexual desires? Maybe let the victims decide " Most wouldn't give a flying fuck. Nothing can change what has happened. And it's survivors, not fucking victims. The word victims is an insulting one to say the least. | |||
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"What are your thoughts on this being mandatory for sex affenders and also if anyone wanted to lower there sexual desires?" Mandatory chemical castration for sex offenders raises complex questions about human rights, ethics and effectiveness. Some argue it could reduce recidivism rates and protect society from harm, potentially bringing justice and closure to victims of sexual offences. However, others are concerned about infringement on individual rights and autonomy of the offenders, potential side effects and long-term health consequences, as well as limitations in research and effectiveness. Critics argue that this perspective may inadvertently divert attention from victims' rights and needs, potentially prioritising offenders' interests over the well-being and justice sought by those affected by their crimes. For individuals seeking to lower their sexual desires, chemical castration or other medical interventions might be considered, but it's crucial to prioritise informed consent, medical supervision and exploration of underlying issues. | |||
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"It is illegal to administer a substance to a person without their consent of knowledge, whether they be a convicted offender or not. If an offender chooses and consents to “chemical castration” as a medication to avoid re-offending that’s their decision. Most, paedophiles and rapists hate the desire, they'll happily take a drug/ injected with a plant that will keep them their freedoms " WTF?! The socialist Utopia of unicorns and fairy dust you dwell in is completely in your mind. | |||
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"Two words. Alan Turin The priority should always be towards rehabilitation over such extreme measures such as chemical castration. Many who have been already subjected and offered to be chemically castrated have severely been left chemically in balanced and have ended up taking their lives. If the point of this chemical approach is to in effect unbalance the individual to such a degree that they commit suicide, then the system has delved to same depths that the individuals that commit these sex crimes.. Currently the ‘fat brush’ term of Sex Offender can slapped on from one end those who commit the most heinous crime, to the other end of the spectrum for those who have porn and dopamine addictions. Currently all sex offenders are treated with the same completely inadequate programs, with a one treatment fits all approach that doesn’t even acknowledged complex issues like dopamine addition, the same chemical released in the brain that initiates gambling, alcohol and drug addictive issues. Anyone that is set to prison for any for sex offence is marked for life, the system insures upon release will never be able to gain employment again, many are made homeless, many loose any level support base to help them, with no rehabilitation offered from probation to help them put their lives back together and prevent any future return to committing future crimes. Now the government want is to add in chemical destabilisation to add to the life long sentence. No company will ever entertain the idea of employing a sex offender. The probation service is hopelessly inadequate and have no capacity to deal with these complex issues.. The government fat brush of chemical castration to dealing with these issues is woefully wrong and very much like Alan Turing who save the UK in the Second World War, now when many years have passed that the decision to employ chemicals castration was wrong. Too late for the family of Mr Turing where was their compensation? Once we have a much better understanding of why individuals commit these sort of crimes, and how they can be clinically treated or alternatively require to locked up permanent for the better of society, will we look back an see how very much the short sightedness to these Media grabbing headlines and idiotic knee jerk approach to solving problems we still don’t understand fully. As usual no one will be held to accountant for these poorly researched governmental proposals. "  | |||
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"Two words. Alan Turin The priority should always be towards rehabilitation over such extreme measures such as chemical castration. Many who have been already subjected and offered to be chemically castrated have severely been left chemically in balanced and have ended up taking their lives. If the point of this chemical approach is to in effect unbalance the individual to such a degree that they commit suicide, then the system has delved to same depths that the individuals that commit these sex crimes.. Currently the ‘fat brush’ term of Sex Offender can slapped on from one end those who commit the most heinous crime, to the other end of the spectrum for those who have porn and dopamine addictions. Currently all sex offenders are treated with the same completely inadequate programs, with a one treatment fits all approach that doesn’t even acknowledged complex issues like dopamine addition, the same chemical released in the brain that initiates gambling, alcohol and drug addictive issues. Anyone that is set to prison for any for sex offence is marked for life, the system insures upon release will never be able to gain employment again, many are made homeless, many loose any level support base to help them, with no rehabilitation offered from probation to help them put their lives back together and prevent any future return to committing future crimes. Now the government want is to add in chemical destabilisation to add to the life long sentence. No company will ever entertain the idea of employing a sex offender. The probation service is hopelessly inadequate and have no capacity to deal with these complex issues.. The government fat brush of chemical castration to dealing with these issues is woefully wrong and very much like Alan Turing who save the UK in the Second World War, now when many years have passed that the decision to employ chemicals castration was wrong. Too late for the family of Mr Turing where was their compensation? Once we have a much better understanding of why individuals commit these sort of crimes, and how they can be clinically treated or alternatively require to locked up permanent for the better of society, will we look back an see how very much the short sightedness to these Media grabbing headlines and idiotic knee jerk approach to solving problems we still don’t understand fully. As usual no one will be held to accountant for these poorly researched governmental proposals. " And now they've put his face on a fifty pound note, funny old world x | |||
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"If Alan Turing had been a sex offender, he should have had it cut off. He wasn't though, so it's a false equivalence." Exactly he wasn’t and so why even mention his name in this chat ? | |||
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"What are your thoughts on this being mandatory for sex affenders and also if anyone wanted to lower there sexual desires? What if the so called sex offender is then proven to be innocent years later and a miscarriage of justice " correct it's why they got rid of hanging | |||
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"What are your thoughts on this being mandatory for sex affenders and also if anyone wanted to lower there sexual desires? Maybe let the victims decide Most wouldn't give a flying fuck. Nothing can change what has happened. Bit late talking about this now it was going on in thatchers time Jimmy Savile got in with the government and royal family so he couldn't be touched just amazed at what he got away with And it's survivors, not fucking victims. The word victims is an insulting one to say the least." | |||
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"If Alan Turing had been a sex offender, he should have had it cut off. He wasn't though, so it's a false equivalence. Exactly he wasn’t and so why even mention his name in this chat ?" Because at the time he was classed as a sex offender. | |||
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"If Alan Turing had been a sex offender, he should have had it cut off. He wasn't though, so it's a false equivalence. Exactly he wasn’t and so why even mention his name in this chat ? Because at the time he was classed as a sex offender. " Yes but not a kiddy fiddler | |||
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"If Alan Turing had been a sex offender, he should have had it cut off. He wasn't though, so it's a false equivalence. Exactly he wasn’t and so why even mention his name in this chat ? Because at the time he was classed as a sex offender. Yes but not a kiddy fiddler" Quite. | |||
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"It is illegal to administer a substance to a person without their consent of knowledge, whether they be a convicted offender or not. If an offender chooses and consents to “chemical castration” as a medication to avoid re-offending that’s their decision. Most, paedophiles and rapists hate the desire, they'll happily take a drug/ injected with a plant that will keep them their freedoms WTF?! The socialist Utopia of unicorns and fairy dust you dwell in is completely in your mind. " That's actually what David Gauke's report says. If you read the proposal instead of being so reactionary, you wouldn't look so foolish | |||
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"What are your thoughts on this being mandatory for sex affenders and also if anyone wanted to lower there sexual desires?" A photo of Ann Widdecombe in a bikini would do the trick just as well, with a 6-monthly refresher applied just as the effects of the last exposure wears off. No side effects apart from a tendency to suffer flashbacks. | |||
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"What are your thoughts on this being mandatory for sex affenders and also if anyone wanted to lower there sexual desires?" Mandatory no. We do not have the ability to get a single fucking thing right systemically... mix in our learned friends and it will get worse. Optional (voluntary) yes. | |||
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"What are your thoughts on this being mandatory for sex affenders and also if anyone wanted to lower there sexual desires?" It would not be a problem for me for any rapist or peadophile, to lock them up for life . Never to see outside world again . They have no use to society. Chemical castration would be having nuts penis removed , the chemical would be the anaesthetic while it was done . That put stop to their game . Won’t ruin anyone else’s lives . | |||
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"Two words. Alan Turin The priority should always be towards rehabilitation over such extreme measures such as chemical castration. Many who have been already subjected and offered to be chemically castrated have severely been left chemically in balanced and have ended up taking their lives. If the point of this chemical approach is to in effect unbalance the individual to such a degree that they commit suicide, then the system has delved to same depths that the individuals that commit these sex crimes.. Currently the ‘fat brush’ term of Sex Offender can slapped on from one end those who commit the most heinous crime, to the other end of the spectrum for those who have porn and dopamine addictions. Currently all sex offenders are treated with the same completely inadequate programs, with a one treatment fits all approach that doesn’t even acknowledged complex issues like dopamine addition, the same chemical released in the brain that initiates gambling, alcohol and drug addictive issues. Anyone that is set to prison for any for sex offence is marked for life, the system insures upon release will never be able to gain employment again, many are made homeless, many loose any level support base to help them, with no rehabilitation offered from probation to help them put their lives back together and prevent any future return to committing future crimes. Now the government want is to add in chemical destabilisation to add to the life long sentence. No company will ever entertain the idea of employing a sex offender. The probation service is hopelessly inadequate and have no capacity to deal with these complex issues.. The government fat brush of chemical castration to dealing with these issues is woefully wrong and very much like Alan Turing who save the UK in the Second World War, now when many years have passed that the decision to employ chemicals castration was wrong. Too late for the family of Mr Turing where was their compensation? Once we have a much better understanding of why individuals commit these sort of crimes, and how they can be clinically treated or alternatively require to locked up permanent for the better of society, will we look back an see how very much the short sightedness to these Media grabbing headlines and idiotic knee jerk approach to solving problems we still don’t understand fully. As usual no one will be held to accountant for these poorly researched governmental proposals. " I am amazed on this site that no one seems to know about Prostate Cancer. If you have advanced Prostate Cancer,apart from Death, the only choice is Chemical Castration. We have no choice. The hormonal imbalance to your life is awful. Depression, weight gain, no sexual desire, taking more medication to counter balance the numerous side effects such as bone degeneration, muscle degeneration, incontinence. The treatment in itself is simple . They give you an injection in your abdomen once every 3 months. It is a painful process that consists of stopping your body producing testosterone. I am just amazed that, on this forum, no one realises that Chemical castration is the only option for advanced Prostate Cancer. We have no bloody choice. | |||
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"Castrate me any day xx" I'm guessing you would prefer physical rather than chemical in your bid to change sex. Not the issue on this thread since I doubt you are an offender. | |||
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"Two words. Alan Turin The priority should always be towards rehabilitation over such extreme measures such as chemical castration. Many who have been already subjected and offered to be chemically castrated have severely been left chemically in balanced and have ended up taking their lives. If the point of this chemical approach is to in effect unbalance the individual to such a degree that they commit suicide, then the system has delved to same depths that the individuals that commit these sex crimes.. Currently the ‘fat brush’ term of Sex Offender can slapped on from one end those who commit the most heinous crime, to the other end of the spectrum for those who have porn and dopamine addictions. Currently all sex offenders are treated with the same completely inadequate programs, with a one treatment fits all approach that doesn’t even acknowledged complex issues like dopamine addition, the same chemical released in the brain that initiates gambling, alcohol and drug addictive issues. Anyone that is set to prison for any for sex offence is marked for life, the system insures upon release will never be able to gain employment again, many are made homeless, many loose any level support base to help them, with no rehabilitation offered from probation to help them put their lives back together and prevent any future return to committing future crimes. Now the government want is to add in chemical destabilisation to add to the life long sentence. No company will ever entertain the idea of employing a sex offender. The probation service is hopelessly inadequate and have no capacity to deal with these complex issues.. The government fat brush of chemical castration to dealing with these issues is woefully wrong and very much like Alan Turing who save the UK in the Second World War, now when many years have passed that the decision to employ chemicals castration was wrong. Too late for the family of Mr Turing where was their compensation? Once we have a much better understanding of why individuals commit these sort of crimes, and how they can be clinically treated or alternatively require to locked up permanent for the better of society, will we look back an see how very much the short sightedness to these Media grabbing headlines and idiotic knee jerk approach to solving problems we still don’t understand fully. As usual no one will be held to accountant for these poorly researched governmental proposals. I am amazed on this site that no one seems to know about Prostate Cancer. If you have advanced Prostate Cancer,apart from Death, the only choice is Chemical Castration. We have no choice. The hormonal imbalance to your life is awful. Depression, weight gain, no sexual desire, taking more medication to counter balance the numerous side effects such as bone degeneration, muscle degeneration, incontinence. The treatment in itself is simple . They give you an injection in your abdomen once every 3 months. It is a painful process that consists of stopping your body producing testosterone. I am just amazed that, on this forum, no one realises that Chemical castration is the only option for advanced Prostate Cancer. We have no bloody choice. " I said previously that Your LH and FSH will be zero | |||
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"What are your thoughts on this being mandatory for sex affenders and also if anyone wanted to lower there sexual desires? It would not be a problem for me for any rapist or peadophile, to lock them up for life . Never to see outside world again . They have no use to society. Chemical castration would be having nuts penis removed , the chemical would be the anaesthetic while it was done . That put stop to their game . Won’t ruin anyone else’s lives . " What happen if it’s a miscarriage of justice, is that a cost we’re are happy to live with, destroy a persons life, then oops sorry we made a mistake, we acted because the baying fork shakers told us to do it… | |||
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"What are your thoughts on this being mandatory for sex affenders and also if anyone wanted to lower there sexual desires? What if the so called sex offender is then proven to be innocent years later and a miscarriage of justice They take the implant out. Simples. I think it's a pretty good policy It's Nothing Like Simples Your LH and FSH will be zero Educate Yourself before making stupid statements. " despite he no longer on the site and posted this some yonks ago, its a very uneducated stupid statement and needs correction as FH and LH levels sky rocket dues the pituitary gland going into overdrive trying make up for the zero sperm production literallydrives itselfnuts 24/7,I can say that after a nice surgeon binned my own  | |||
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"What are your thoughts on this being mandatory for sex affenders and also if anyone wanted to lower there sexual desires?" How do you enforce it , huge oriblem Just castrate paedophiles | |||
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"It is illegal to administer a substance to a person without their consent of knowledge, whether they be a convicted offender or not. If an offender chooses and consents to “chemical castration” as a medication to avoid re-offending that’s their decision." Not quite true, I believe that it can be court ordered, in which case it is legal. | |||
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"It is illegal to administer a substance to a person without their consent of knowledge, whether they be a convicted offender or not. If an offender chooses and consents to “chemical castration” as a medication to avoid re-offending that’s their decision. Not quite true, I believe that it can be court ordered, in which case it is legal." Yes, a UK court can order medication to be given against consent in specific situations, such as for an adult lacking the capacity to make their own decision and when it's deemed to be in their best interests, or for a child when parents disagree and the court rules the treatment is in the child's best interest. A person can also be medicated without consent if they are sectioned under certain sections of the Mental Health Act. But if a sex offender has capacity to make an informed decision and it’s not in their “best interests” to consent, whatever that may mean in this respect, it seems it wouldn’t be legal to enforce medication. It would be interesting to see how that might be considered by higher courts and the ECHR. | |||
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