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"Some of us are old enough to remember the disaster that was British Rail... 'back to the future' or 'back to the 1970's'...time will tell." I remember this I'd the age of the train. And Jimmy Savile advertising trains. | |||
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"Some of us are old enough to remember the disaster that was British Rail... 'back to the future' or 'back to the 1970's'...time will tell." 
Well said, nationalisation will mean dirty, late trains, indifferent managment and customer service and more power to belligerent unions like the RMT, looking for their pound of flesh, just as it was in the 1970s. Finally, once this Labour government bankrupts the country as Labour governments always do, at or near the top of the list for cuts (demanded by the banks who prop up govt. finance by buying Treasury gilts) will be investment in the railways.
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"I was a regular traveller under BR in the 80s It was a clusterfuck. Unreliable scruffy trains and a timetable that was fantasy. I think you need to be careful what you ask for "Sounds much the same as it is now | |||
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"Coming soon rail strikes and massive pay increases for train drivers ! " Will continue as it is now then! | |||
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"It’s started How long before they go on strike Same old merry go round " Scotrail went under Scottish Government ownership April 2022, May 2022 was the first strike | |||
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"We seem to be allergic to train services being in public ownership, all the while ignoring the fact we have contracted out their management to train companies owned by the governments of Netherlands, Germany, etc, who take the profits made here and use them to subsidise their own railway. Public ownership seems fine, so long as it's not the UK Government who owns it "Another reason not to trust the EU then, Sara | |||
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"It’s started How long before they go on strike Same old merry go round " They are always on strike now | |||
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"We seem to be allergic to train services being in public ownership, all the while ignoring the fact we have contracted out their management to train companies owned by the governments of Netherlands, Germany, etc, who take the profits made here and use them to subsidise their own railway. Public ownership seems fine, so long as it's not the UK Government who owns it
Another reason not to trust the EU then, Sara "What's the EU reference? Competition law in Europe allows the government to own and operate companies, so long as they do not receive subsidies that distort the market. Their companies are taking 100s of millions of £s out of the UK railway network. | |||
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"..and what if Starfleet's federation of planets went in strike..... Cubes of Borgs invading that's what.. I mean..do you really want 7 of 9 right on top of you...? "Many would! | |||
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"First services were replacement bus, well from that low bar things can only improve! Public transport is a service should never be a business. It needs to pay it's way but no excessive profits " Well I can understand the replacement bus as they always tend to do major engineering work over bank holiday weekend so as not to impact commuter’s trying to get to work. In theory there is no difference between a private and publicly owned company running the services IF gov keep their nose out of the running of the service. | |||
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"Put the cargo of those thunderous lorries back on rail. Make it a bit safer on motorways " Quite agree but we probably need more rail capacity to do that. | |||
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"I would rather they would bring the utilities back into public ownership." I think that would be quite popular but Labour seems content to follow some neo-liberal policies with the occasional concession to client groups. Also the way Labour plans to take rail franchises back under state control as they expire is a lot cheaper than renationalising utlities like gas or water, whose current owners would have to be compensated which could cost billions. | |||
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"It’s started How long before they go on strike Same old merry go round " It was ok for private companies to take billions out..look at the water companies...are u a tory fool who thinks everyone should wirk for peanuts | |||
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"We seem to be allergic to train services being in public ownership, all the while ignoring the fact we have contracted out their management to train companies owned by the governments of Netherlands, Germany, etc, who take the profits made here and use them to subsidise their own railway. Public ownership seems fine, so long as it's not the UK Government who owns it "This /\ | |||
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"Some of us are old enough to remember the disaster that was British Rail... 'back to the future' or 'back to the 1970's'...time will tell.
Well said, nationalisation will mean dirty, late trains, indifferent managment and customer service and more power to belligerent unions like the RMT, looking for their pound of flesh, just as it was in the 1970s. Finally, once this Labour government bankrupts the country as Labour governments always do, at or near the top of the list for cuts (demanded by the banks who prop up govt. finance by buying Treasury gilts) will be investment in the railways.
"Dirty, late trains? So like we have anyway? | |||
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"Best railway service is Switzerland. As regular as clockwork " For me it's Spain these days. The massive investment in affordable high-speed rail there is fantastic. The UK is pretty shit but nothing on Germany, for the worst. Again though, it's much much cheaper than what we are forced to pay. | |||
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"I would rather they would bring the utilities back into public ownership." Yes all utilities and trains should be govt owned. All new housing built should be run by local councils then they would not go bankrupt whilst giving people that cannot afford to buy a place somewhere to live | |||
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"I would rather they would bring the utilities back into public ownership. Yes all utilities and trains should be govt owned. All new housing built should be run by local councils then they would not go bankrupt whilst giving people that cannot afford to buy a place somewhere to live" Are you for real? You ever heard of British leyland? Oh and you will find a few council's have gone bankrupt! | |||
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"Liebour’s first re-nationalised train was a bus replacement service...you couldnt make it up! "you have spelled Labour wrong . | |||
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"It’s started How long before they go on strike Same old merry go round It was ok for private companies to take billions out..look at the water companies...are u a tory fool who thinks everyone should wirk for peanuts " You mean everybody else should work for peanuts. They have have their bonuses (for failure) stock options and pension..otherwise the organisation won’t attract the best  minds, but the proles who do the work? Pennies. | |||
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"Liebour’s first re-nationalised train was a bus replacement service...you couldnt make it up! you have spelled Labour wrong ."Labour = Liebour Fixed it for you. | |||
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"Liebour’s first re-nationalised train was a bus replacement service...you couldnt make it up! you have spelled Labour wrong .
Labour = Liebour
Fixed it for you. "Liebour = Labour | |||
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"It’s started How long before they go on strike Same old merry go round " Yup Who remembers the good old days of British Rail? Dirty trains that were regularly late. And at the mercy of the unions. And I make a prediction. There will be complaints about the system not too far in the future. | |||
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"Put the cargo of those thunderous lorries back on rail. Make it a bit safer on motorways " That's the transport minister's intention as part of the expanding Great British Railways nationalisation. Yet another downside of Mrs Ts privatisation of what should have remained a public service. The main aim of private companies is making profit for shareholders, not serving the public. | |||
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"It’s started How long before they go on strike Same old merry go round Yup Who remembers the good old days of British Rail? Dirty trains that were regularly late. And at the mercy of the unions. And I make a prediction. There will be complaints about the system not too far in the future." Glass always half empty then? | |||
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