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"So Herr Starmer is ordering 12 new attack submarines Will there be enough Lego for that ? What planet is this moron from ? " It's actually old news reheated. We've done a deal with Australia that's going to keep tens of thousands of workers in Barrow and Derby in jobs for decades to come, building a new generation of attack submarines. The issue isn't lego, but whether we have enough of the skills needed to sustain it. | |||
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"So Herr Starmer is ordering 12 new attack submarines Will there be... Australia.... The issue isn't lego, but whether we have enough of the skills needed to sustain it." Surely the bigger issue is that With contractor and American know how, our flag ship aircraft carrier had its propeller fall off on launch, our best latest frigates have a quarter the range and unreliable engines because "someone" decided to Chand the engin spec (and original provider) and even if these and the Aussie subs we provide are not death traps, do we have the override keys to use them if Americans tell us not to? Surely small distributed low-teck centers with flexible production capacity would be a lesson better learned from modern conflicts, rather than six capital intensive sites largely moribund with debt on creation that act as feed ING troughs for existing multinational defense contractors?!? | |||
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"So Herr Starmer is ordering 12 new attack submarines Will there be... Australia.... The issue isn't lego, but whether we have enough of the skills needed to sustain it. Surely the bigger issue is that With contractor and American know how, our flag ship aircraft carrier had its propeller fall off on launch, our best latest frigates have a quarter the range and unreliable engines because "someone" decided to Chand the engin spec (and original provider) and even if these and the Aussie subs we provide are not death traps, do we have the override keys to use them if Americans tell us not to? Surely small distributed low-teck centers with flexible production capacity would be a lesson better learned from modern conflicts, rather than six capital intensive sites largely moribund with debt on creation that act as feed ING troughs for existing multinational defense contractors?!? " The quality of submarines coming out of Barrow is good. That wasn't the case when we built them in Liverpool as well. We rely on the US for the missile technology and the design of the reactor, but all the rest, including the warheads, are UK. There was a time when the US posted a key-holder on each submarine capable of launching ballistic nuclear missiles, but I think they've learned to trust us now.  | |||
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"So Herr Starmer is ordering 12 new attack submarines Will there be enough Lego for that ? What planet is this moron from ? " I am convinced Starmer fancies himself as a Churchillion style world war leader; not for him the mundane domestic stuff like immigration, health care, housing... he wants a legacy as a war time leader, so is encouraging conflict at every opportunity! Giving Ukraine billions to pursue it's war, building stocks of artillery shells and submarines! Gawd elp us all!   | |||
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"So Herr Starmer is ordering 12 new attack submarines Will there be... Australia.... The issue isn't lego, but whether we have enough of the skills needed to sustain it. Surely the bigger issue is that With contractor and American know how, our flag ship aircraft carrier had its propeller fall off on launch, our best latest frigates have a quarter the range and unreliable engines because "someone" decided to Chand the engin spec (and original provider) and even if these and the Aussie subs we provide are not death traps, do we have the override keys to use them if Americans tell us not to? Surely small distributed low-teck centers with flexible production capacity would be a lesson better learned from modern conflicts, rather than six capital intensive sites largely moribund with debt on creation that act as feed ING troughs for existing multinational defense contractors?!? " When Mr Putin was asked some time ago what he thought of our huge new aircraft (less) carrier? He smiled and said... 'It's a very big target!' Oh dear!  | |||
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"So Herr Starmer is ordering 12 new attack submarines Will there be... Australia.... The issue isn't lego, but whether we have enough of the skills needed to sustain it. Surely the bigger issue is that With contractor and American know how, our flag ship aircraft carrier had its propeller fall off on launch, our best latest frigates have a quarter the range and unreliable engines because "someone" decided to Chand the engin spec (and original provider) and even if these and the Aussie subs we provide are not death traps, do we have the override keys to use them if Americans tell us not to? Surely small distributed low-teck centers with flexible production capacity would be a lesson better learned from modern conflicts, rather than six capital intensive sites largely moribund with debt on creation that act as feed ING troughs for existing multinational defense contractors?!? The quality of submarines coming out of Barrow is good. That wasn't the case when we built them in Liverpool as well. We rely on the US for the missile technology and the design of the reactor, but all the rest, including the warheads, are UK. There was a time when the US posted a key-holder on each submarine capable of launching ballistic nuclear missiles, but I think they've learned to trust us now. "Oh, that's good to know... that control freak Starmer has got his mits on the launch key!!!  | |||
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"Starmer "I need more seamen"" .. on my naval base! The oldies are still the goldies lel | |||
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"So Herr Starmer is ordering 12 new attack submarines Will there be... Australia.... The issue isn't lego, but whether we have enough of the skills needed to sustain it. Surely the bigger issue is that With contractor and American know how, our flag ship aircraft carrier had its propeller fall off on launch, our best latest frigates have a quarter the range and unreliable engines because "someone" decided to Chand the engin spec (and original provider) and even if these and the Aussie subs we provide are not death traps, do we have the override keys to use them if Americans tell us not to? Surely small distributed low-teck centers with flexible production capacity would be a lesson better learned from modern conflicts, rather than six capital intensive sites largely moribund with debt on creation that act as feed ING troughs for existing multinational defense contractors?!? The quality of submarines coming out of Barrow is good. That wasn't the case when we built them in Liverpool as well. We rely on the US for the missile technology and the design of the reactor, but all the rest, including the warheads, are UK. There was a time when the US posted a key-holder on each submarine capable of launching ballistic nuclear missiles, but I think they've learned to trust us now.
Oh, that's good to know... that control freak Starmer has got his mits on the launch key!!! "The PM (and a list of deputies in case he is incapacitated). I think the Chief of Defence Staff (and their deputies) are counter-signatories to the launch instruction, to mitigate the risk from a PM having a mental health breakdown and starting WW3 | |||
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"So Herr Starmer is ordering 12 new attack submarines Will there be... Australia.... The issue isn't lego, but whether we have enough of the skills needed to sustain it. Surely the bigger issue is that With contractor and American know how, our flag ship aircraft carrier had its propeller fall off on launch, our best latest frigates have a quarter the range and unreliable engines because "someone" decided to Chand the engin spec (and original provider) and even if these and the Aussie subs we provide are not death traps, do we have the override keys to use them if Americans tell us not to? Surely small distributed low-teck centers with flexible production capacity would be a lesson better learned from modern conflicts, rather than six capital intensive sites largely moribund with debt on creation that act as feed ING troughs for existing multinational defense contractors?!? The quality of submarines coming out of Barrow is good. That wasn't the case when we built them in Liverpool as well. We rely on the US for the missile technology and the design of the reactor, but all the rest, including the warheads, are UK. There was a time when the US posted a key-holder on each submarine capable of launching ballistic nuclear missiles, but I think they've learned to trust us now. "Can we rely/trust the Americans now? | |||
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"I’d be more concerned about all those fighting aged men coming across the channel…unknown threat who are at best sleepers waiting to be activated by groups who will rampage through our streets. Russia isn’t really my worry… " Like you say ‘unknown’ … or fictional except in the circles of Faridge, Little Tommeh etc | |||
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"So Herr Starmer is ordering 12 new attack submarines Will there be... Australia.... The issue isn't lego, but whether we have enough of the skills needed to sustain it. Surely the bigger issue is that With contractor and American know how, our flag ship aircraft carrier had its propeller fall off on launch, our best latest frigates have a quarter the range and unreliable engines because "someone" decided to Chand the engin spec (and original provider) and even if these and the Aussie subs we provide are not death traps, do we have the override keys to use them if Americans tell us not to? Surely small distributed low-teck centers with flexible production capacity would be a lesson better learned from modern conflicts, rather than six capital intensive sites largely moribund with debt on creation that act as feed ING troughs for existing multinational defense contractors?!? The quality of submarines coming out of Barrow is good. That wasn't the case when we built them in Liverpool as well. We rely on the US for the missile technology and the design of the reactor, but all the rest, including the warheads, are UK. There was a time when the US posted a key-holder on each submarine capable of launching ballistic nuclear missiles, but I think they've learned to trust us now.
Oh, that's good to know... that control freak Starmer has got his mits on the launch key!!! "Isn’t it by definition a good thing to have a control freak at the helm? Rather that than a trump loose cannon..pardon the pun | |||
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"Are these Sumberines going to be paint yellow,asking for a friend." If your friend takes some interesting mushrooms before hand I am pretty sure your friend will see a lot more than yellow Peter. Mx 😜 | |||
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"So Herr Starmer is ordering 12 new attack submarines Will there be... Australia.... The issue isn't lego, but whether we have enough of the skills needed to sustain it. Surely the bigger issue is that With contractor and American know how, our flag ship aircraft carrier had its propeller fall off on launch, our best latest frigates have a quarter the range and unreliable engines because "someone" decided to Chand the engin spec (and original provider) and even if these and the Aussie subs we provide are not death traps, do we have the override keys to use them if Americans tell us not to? Surely small distributed low-teck centers with flexible production capacity would be a lesson better learned from modern conflicts, rather than six capital intensive sites largely moribund with debt on creation that act as feed ING troughs for existing multinational defense contractors?!? The quality of submarines coming out of Barrow is good. That wasn't the case when we built them in Liverpool as well. We rely on the US for the missile technology and the design of the reactor, but all the rest, including the warheads, are UK. There was a time when the US posted a key-holder on each submarine capable of launching ballistic nuclear missiles, but I think they've learned to trust us now.
Can we rely/trust the Americans now?"So long as we continue to buy from Mr Trump’s military-industrial complex, he’ll not be displeased. We get the missiles for cost + 5% (as our contribution to their R and D costs) | |||
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"So Herr Starmer is ordering 12 new attack submarines Will there be... Australia.... The issue isn't lego, but whether we have enough of the skills needed to sustain it. Surely the bigger issue is that With contractor and American know how, our flag ship aircraft carrier had its propeller fall off on launch, our best latest frigates have a quarter the range and unreliable engines because "someone" decided to Chand the engin spec (and original provider) and even if these and the Aussie subs we provide are not death traps, do we have the override keys to use them if Americans tell us not to? Surely small distributed low-teck centers with flexible production capacity would be a lesson better learned from modern conflicts, rather than six capital intensive sites largely moribund with debt on creation that act as feed ING troughs for existing multinational defense contractors?!? The quality of submarines coming out of Barrow is good. That wasn't the case when we built them in Liverpool as well. We rely on the US for the missile technology and the design of the reactor, but all the rest, including the warheads, are UK. There was a time when the US posted a key-holder on each submarine capable of launching ballistic nuclear missiles, but I think they've learned to trust us now.
Can we rely/trust the Americans now?
So long as we continue to buy from Mr Trump’s military-industrial complex, he’ll not be displeased.
We get the missiles for cost + 5% (as our contribution to their R and D costs) "Another fine deal sorted out by Mr Starmer. Mx 😜 | |||
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"So Herr Starmer is ordering 12 new attack submarines Will there be enough Lego for that ? What planet is this moron from ? " Jasoom - Same as everyone else | |||
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"So Herr Starmer is ordering 12 new attack submarines Will there be... Australia.... The issue isn't lego, but whether we have enough of the skills needed to sustain it. Surely the bigger issue is that With contractor and American know how, our flag ship aircraft carrier had its propeller fall off on launch, our best latest frigates have a quarter the range and unreliable engines because "someone" decided to Chand the engin spec (and original provider) and even if these and the Aussie subs we provide are not death traps, do we have the override keys to use them if Americans tell us not to? Surely small distributed low-teck centers with flexible production capacity would be a lesson better learned from modern conflicts, rather than six capital intensive sites largely moribund with debt on creation that act as feed ING troughs for existing multinational defense contractors?!? The quality of submarines coming out of Barrow is good. That wasn't the case when we built them in Liverpool as well. We rely on the US for the missile technology and the design of the reactor, but all the rest, including the warheads, are UK. There was a time when the US posted a key-holder on each submarine capable of launching ballistic nuclear missiles, but I think they've learned to trust us now.
Can we rely/trust the Americans now?
So long as we continue to buy from Mr Trump’s military-industrial complex, he’ll not be displeased.
We get the missiles for cost + 5% (as our contribution to their R and D costs)
Another fine deal sorted out by Mr Starmer. Mx 😜"It goes back to the 1950s or 60s and something called the Bermuda or Nassau agreement. Basically, the shooting down of Gary Powers made the UK’s V-bombers obsolete, and we needed help to move the warheads onto submarines. The Yanks got Diego Garcia in return. | |||
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"So Herr Starmer is ordering 12 new attack submarines Will there be... Australia.... The issue isn't lego, but whether we have enough of the skills needed to sustain it. Surely the bigger issue is that With contractor and American know how, our flag ship aircraft carrier had its propeller fall off on launch, our best latest frigates have a quarter the range and unreliable engines because "someone" decided to Chand the engin spec (and original provider) and even if these and the Aussie subs we provide are not death traps, do we have the override keys to use them if Americans tell us not to? Surely small distributed low-teck centers with flexible production capacity would be a lesson better learned from modern conflicts, rather than six capital intensive sites largely moribund with debt on creation that act as feed ING troughs for existing multinational defense contractors?!? The quality of submarines coming out of Barrow is good. That wasn't the case when we built them in Liverpool as well. We rely on the US for the missile technology and the design of the reactor, but all the rest, including the warheads, are UK. There was a time when the US posted a key-holder on each submarine capable of launching ballistic nuclear missiles, but I think they've learned to trust us now.
Can we rely/trust the Americans now?
So long as we continue to buy from Mr Trump’s military-industrial complex, he’ll not be displeased.
We get the missiles for cost + 5% (as our contribution to their R and D costs)
Another fine deal sorted out by Mr Starmer. Mx 😜
It goes back to the 1950s or 60s and something called the Bermuda or Nassau agreement.
Basically, the shooting down of Gary Powers made the UK’s V-bombers obsolete, and we needed help to move the warheads onto submarines. The Yanks got Diego Garcia in return." Mx | |||
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"And that’s bad because?" because they get based in Scotland when we don't want the fuckers. Base them on Dover or Portsmouth. | |||
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"Inevitable really as America withdraws it's support from NATO. This should never have been allowed to happen in the first place. Our inactivity gave rise to the American monster allowing it to become the world's foremost military power, a position it has repeatedly abused and continues to abuse. "We were broke after WW2 and the USA wasn’t. That’s what happened. | |||
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"Inevitable really as America withdraws it's support from NATO. This should never have been allowed to happen in the first place. Our inactivity gave rise to the American monster allowing it to become the world's foremost military power, a position it has repeatedly abused and continues to abuse.
We were broke after WW2 and the USA wasn’t. That’s what happened. "Indeed, we were bankrupted and lost everything. The war cost us approximately £3.62 trillion in today's money. For what we got out of it i sometimes wonder if we wouldn't have been better off not getting involved. | |||
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"So Herr Starmer is ordering 12 new attack submarines Will there be enough Lego for that ? What planet is this moron from ? " old news pulled off the back burner | |||
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"The same people who were all for us fighting Russia are now against defence spending. " | |||
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"So Herr Starmer is ordering 12 new attack submarines Will there be enough Lego for that ? What planet is this moron from ? It's actually old news reheated. We've done a deal with Australia that's going to keep tens of thousands of workers in Barrow and Derby in jobs for decades to come, building a new generation of attack submarines. The issue isn't lego, but whether we have enough of the skills needed to sustain it." Well why would he sign the contract if there was any doubt of not having the skills to deliver ?. Surely you know the answer to that one Sara ? | |||
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"So Herr Starmer is ordering 12 new attack submarines Will there be enough Lego for that ? What planet is this moron from ? It's actually old news reheated. We've done a deal with Australia that's going to keep tens of thousands of workers in Barrow and Derby in jobs for decades to come, building a new generation of attack submarines. The issue isn't lego, but whether we have enough of the skills needed to sustain it. Well why would he sign the contract if there was any doubt of not having the skills to deliver ?. Surely you know the answer to that one Sara ?" It's not about what actually happens in the future, it's about the headline news! | |||
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"I get the strangest feeling the tool is trying to get Russia to nuke the UK. Maybe it's a cunning Labour plan to help keep British pensioners warm this winter." 🤣🤣🤣😜😜😜💋 | |||
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"Are these Sumberines going to be paint yellow,asking for a friend." Of course they are and tell Ringo we'll all live in one together xx | |||
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"So Herr Starmer is ordering 12 new attack submarines Will there be enough Lego for that ? What planet is this moron from ? It's actually old news reheated. We've done a deal with Australia that's going to keep tens of thousands of workers in Barrow and Derby in jobs for decades to come, building a new generation of attack submarines. The issue isn't lego, but whether we have enough of the skills needed to sustain it. Well why would he sign the contract if there was any doubt of not having the skills to deliver ?. Surely you know the answer to that one Sara ?" Rishi Sunak signed the AUKUS contract | |||
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"And that’s bad because?because they get based in Scotland when we don't want the fuckers. Base them on Dover or Portsmouth." Dover and Portsmouth don't have any fjords. | |||
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"And that’s bad because?because they get based in Scotland when we don't want the fuckers. Base them on Dover or Portsmouth. Dover and Portsmouth don't have any fjords." or hollow mountains | |||
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"I think it's time we Scots shared our nuclear stuff with the Welsh people, let's get a petition going to supplant most of these weapons into Barry Island. Who's with me on this, show of hands is enough. Mx 😜" Except it's not your stuff. We English fucking paid for it. | |||
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"I think it's time we Scots shared our nuclear stuff with the Welsh people, let's get a petition going to supplant most of these weapons into Barry Island. Who's with me on this, show of hands is enough. Mx 😜 Except it's not your stuff. We English fucking paid for it. " 👇👇👇👇 | |||
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"I think it's time we Scots shared our nuclear stuff with the Welsh people, let's get a petition going to supplant most of these weapons into Barry Island. Who's with me on this, show of hands is enough. Mx 😜 Except it's not your stuff. We English fucking paid for it. 👇👇👇👇" Wow managed to hit the same key four times | |||
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"I get the strangest feeling the tool is trying to get Russia to nuke the UK. Maybe it's a cunning Labour plan to help keep British pensioners warm this winter." That strange feeling is your brain trying to get out and see sense. | |||
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"So Herr Starmer is ordering 12 new attack submarines Will there be... Australia.... The issue isn't lego, but whether we have enough of the skills needed to sustain it. Surely the bigger issue is that With contractor and American know how, our flag ship aircraft carrier had its propeller fall off on launch, our best latest frigates have a quarter the range and unreliable engines because "someone" decided to Chand the engin spec (and original provider) and even if these and the Aussie subs we provide are not death traps, do we have the override keys to use them if Americans tell us not to? Surely small distributed low-teck centers with flexible production capacity would be a lesson better learned from modern conflicts, rather than six capital intensive sites largely moribund with debt on creation that act as feed ING troughs for existing multinational defense contractors?!? The quality of submarines coming out of Barrow is good. That wasn't the case when we built them in Liverpool as well. We rely on the US for the missile technology and the design of the reactor, but all the rest, including the warheads, are UK. There was a time when the US posted a key-holder on each submarine capable of launching ballistic nuclear missiles, but I think they've learned to trust us now. "Submarines built in Liverpool???🤔 Surely you mean at Cammell Laird at Birkenhead on the Wirral, who, incidentally have an excellent and rightly proud reputation for both ship and submarine construction! | |||
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"I think it's time we Scots shared our nuclear stuff with the Welsh people, let's get a petition going to supplant most of these weapons into Barry Island. Who's with me on this, show of hands is enough. Mx 😜 Except it's not your stuff. We English fucking paid for it. " Well you can fucking take them back then can't you. Mx 😜 | |||
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"I think it's time we Scots shared our nuclear stuff with the Welsh people, let's get a petition going to supplant most of these weapons into Barry Island. Who's with me on this, show of hands is enough. Mx 😜 Except it's not your stuff. We English fucking paid for it. " Ye Southern English chappies think you've paid for it entirely but your contribution has been bolstered by the contributions of the good folks of Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales! | |||
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"It takes about 6 to7 years to build one hunter." How long to commission it and for it to be fully operational, just asking for a friend. Mx 😜 | |||
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"If it’s anything like our usual naval projects we will end up with two or three massively over budget crocks of shit white elephant. The two aircraft carriers that Gordon Brown commissioned are both a standing joke we have thirty jets that can fly off them and they have to share them with the RAF. They are continually out of commission. They have no catapults and substandard defence systems. " And an out of line propeller shaft on launching! How the f...k do you get that wrong? Maybe used a sub standard measuring tape from a christmas cracker !! | |||
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"If it’s anything like our usual naval projects we will end up with two or three massively over budget crocks of shit white elephant. The two aircraft carriers that Gordon Brown commissioned are both a standing joke we have thirty jets that can fly off them and they have to share them with the RAF. They are continually out of commission. They have no catapults and substandard defence systems. And an out of line propeller shaft on launching! How the f...k do you get that wrong? Maybe used a sub standard measuring tape from a christmas cracker !!" The Tories destroyed the project by changing the specifications to cut costs. Brown set the project going to win over votes in the Scottish independence referendum. Politics always trumps practically or need | |||
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