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By *ndyfy7 OP   Man
10 weeks ago

Fleetwood

The great unsaid problem of the housing crisis is the rise of one parent families. A couple are together and they have a child, the guy (and it’s usually the guy) then leaves so he needs accommodation now. It’s a recent phenomenon - do people not have staying power in relationships anymore ?

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By (user no longer on site)
10 weeks ago

Isn’t it better for a child to grow up in a happy home with one parent, than an acrimonious home with two?

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By *enjamin2018Man
10 weeks ago

Halstead

In my experience it's not a recent phenomenon,when I started doing the job i do in the mid 1980's, I came across it often .

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By *ndyfy7 OP   Man
10 weeks ago

Fleetwood


"Isn’t it better for a child to grow up in a happy home with one parent, than an acrimonious home with two?"

Why does it need to be acrimonious? It seems people leave relationships at the least problem- if you have kids you have responsibility to bring them up

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By (user no longer on site)
10 weeks ago


"Isn’t it better for a child to grow up in a happy home with one parent, than an acrimonious home with two?

Why does it need to be acrimonious? It seems people leave relationships at the least problem- if you have kids you have responsibility to bring them up "

The OP is bemoaning the separation of the parents. Reasonable to infer they are not happy living together.

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By *ndyfy7 OP   Man
10 weeks ago

Fleetwood

I’m just saying that people aren’t prepared to put the work in

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By (user no longer on site)
10 weeks ago


"I’m just saying that people aren’t prepared to put the work in "

How do you know how hard any couple has worked, before the relationship breaks down?

If there are children, decisions need to be taken in their best interests and not the parents.

It is better they are brought up in a happy home than an unhappy one.

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By *ndyfy7 OP   Man
10 weeks ago

Fleetwood


"I’m just saying that people aren’t prepared to put the work in

How do you know how hard any couple has worked, before the relationship breaks down?

If there are children, decisions need to be taken in their best interests and not the parents.

From my experience, it appears that many couples aren’t prepared to accept their responsibilities and guys disappear at the first opportunity

It is better they are brought up in a happy home than an unhappy one."

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By *ookingaroundMan
10 weeks ago

Bristol


"The great unsaid problem of the housing crisis is the rise of one parent families. A couple are together and they have a child, the guy (and it’s usually the guy) then leaves so he needs accommodation now. It’s a recent phenomenon - do people not have staying power in relationships anymore ? "

Do people over the age of 60 all think that if people were just like them when they were younger everything would be just fine?

Have they not realised the world was fucking mental then too but that they just didn’t see it as they didn’t have enough time to sit around finding reasons to talk nonsense?

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By *ianca del MonteTV/TS
10 weeks ago

Somewhere nr Reading


"The great unsaid problem of the housing crisis is the rise of one parent families. A couple are together and they have a child, the guy (and it’s usually the guy) then leaves so he needs accommodation now. It’s a recent phenomenon - do people not have staying power in relationships anymore ? "

Nah.

People aren't dying enough. Medical science is advancing and keeping people alive, tying up housing.

That's the problem.

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By *opcock58Man
10 weeks ago

Helston

Silly question but could the housing shortage have anything to do with our ever expanding population? Just asking.

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By *aul349Man
10 weeks ago

North of the Tyne


"Isn’t it better for a child to grow up in a happy home with one parent, than an acrimonious home with two?"

Yes, of course but growing up with both parents is better still.

Not an easy square to circle but the divorce laws being weighted heavily in favour of the woman and the default assumption that the mother will be the primary carer needs to be addressed before any positive changes can happen.

It's too easy for a woman to claim domestic abuse without any evidence and have the husband removed from the family house and prevent him from seeing the kids.

I know 2 work colleagues who have had that happen in the last 5 years.

The social services and police just rubber-stamped everything the woman said.

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By *speedoMan
10 weeks ago

eastbourne


"I’m just saying that people aren’t prepared to put the work in "

It sounds like as though you haven’t been in that situation

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By *ookingaroundMan
10 weeks ago

Bristol


"Silly question but could the housing shortage have anything to do with our ever expanding population? Just asking. "

Mad idea, much better to just blame the youth

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By *elljelMan
10 weeks ago

clacton/harlow


"Silly question but could the housing shortage have anything to do with our ever expanding population? Just asking. "
not a silly question- just depends who you’re asking.

I agree with you- but the saviours on here would disagree

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By (user no longer on site)
10 weeks ago


"Silly question but could the housing shortage have anything to do with our ever expanding population? Just asking. "

Local and national government used to be quite good at predicting demographic changes.

More houses needed there, fewer hospital beds over here etc.

They would invest in building houses where shortages were expected.

Then someone called Thatcher decided public ownership of housing was a bad thing, sold it off for a song and decided to leave housing in the hands of the market.

The market likes increasing demand for a limited supply because it pushes up the prices and their profits,

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By (user no longer on site)
10 weeks ago


"The great unsaid problem of the housing crisis is the rise of one parent families. A couple are together and they have a child, the guy (and it’s usually the guy) then leaves so he needs accommodation now. It’s a recent phenomenon - do people not have staying power in relationships anymore ? "

Recent phenomena? On what time scale?

I see we've turned our ire towards single parents rather then migrants. Novel I suppose

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By (user no longer on site)
10 weeks ago


"I’m just saying that people aren’t prepared to put the work in "

You have no idea what goes on behind closed doors

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By (user no longer on site)
10 weeks ago


"Silly question but could the housing shortage have anything to do with our ever expanding population? Just asking. "

Here it is knew it wouldn't be long.

We have an ever ageing population and a decreasing birth rate, who pays for your dotage when the migrants have all gone?

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By *ever000Man
10 weeks ago

Beccles

The probably split because one used the wrong pronouns

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By (user no longer on site)
10 weeks ago


"Isn’t it better for a child to grow up in a happy home with one parent, than an acrimonious home with two?

Yes, of course but growing up with both parents is better still.

Not an easy square to circle but the divorce laws being weighted heavily in favour of the woman and the default assumption that the mother will be the primary carer needs to be addressed before any positive changes can happen.

It's too easy for a woman to claim domestic abuse without any evidence and have the husband removed from the family house and prevent him from seeing the kids.

I know 2 work colleagues who have had that happen in the last 5 years.

The social services and police just rubber-stamped everything the woman said.

"

Did it cross your mind they might be right?

You have no idea what happens behind closed doors and people who do beat women usually have a good game outside the home

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By *ookingaroundMan
10 weeks ago

Bristol


"The probably split because one used the wrong pronouns "

I can see why you have hidden your profile.

Human rage bait producers need a bit of help

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By *ever000Man
10 weeks ago

Beccles


"The probably split because one used the wrong pronouns

I can see why you have hidden your profile.

Human rage bait producers need a bit of help"

Whatever you want to think

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By *ookingaroundMan
10 weeks ago

Bristol


"The probably split because one used the wrong pronouns

I can see why you have hidden your profile.

Human rage bait producers need a bit of help

Whatever you want to think "

Well then Lithuanian Ragebait Bot #4538,

What would you say is right?

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By (user no longer on site)
10 weeks ago


"The probably split because one used the wrong pronouns

I can see why you have hidden your profile.

Human rage bait producers need a bit of help

Whatever you want to think

Well then Lithuanian Ragebait Bot #4538,

What would you say is right?"

Loving your work

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By *veryhairyMan
10 weeks ago

London


"Isn’t it better for a child to grow up in a happy home with one parent, than an acrimonious home with two?

Yes, of course but growing up with both parents is better still.

Not an easy square to circle but the divorce laws being weighted heavily in favour of the woman and the default assumption that the mother will be the primary carer needs to be addressed before any positive changes can happen.

It's too easy for a woman to claim domestic abuse without any evidence and have the husband removed from the family house and prevent him from seeing the kids.

I know 2 work colleagues who have had that happen in the last 5 years.

The social services and police just rubber-stamped everything the woman said.

"

There are men on this site who are perpetrators of domestic abuse against women, they won't come forward and admit to it but statistically there are abusers on Fabguys.

The victims of domestic abuse need courage and support to leave an abusive relationship, they may be coerced into staying through fear, entrapment and escalating abuse. Without support they remain trapped.

I work with survivors of abuse, the vast majority are women with an abusive male partner but it happens in same sex relationships and on occasions men with a female abuser.

To blame couples splitting causing a housing crisis is dog whistle misogamist ignorance. As SaraJevo said the mass privatisation of social housing has led to the housing crisis

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By *ellowladyTV/TS
10 weeks ago

Didcot


"The probably split because one used the wrong pronouns "

What pronouns where they using ?

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By (user no longer on site)
10 weeks ago

There was a time not so long ago when society coerced women to stay with horrible men by stigmatising the single/unmarried mother and making her financially dependent on him.

Thankfully, we have put women on a more equal footing these days, with their own financial independence and less of the misogynistic stigma.

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By (user no longer on site)
10 weeks ago


"Isn’t it better for a child to grow up in a happy home with one parent, than an acrimonious home with two?

Yes, of course but growing up with both parents is better still.

Not an easy square to circle but the divorce laws being weighted heavily in favour of the woman and the default assumption that the mother will be the primary carer needs to be addressed before any positive changes can happen.

It's too easy for a woman to claim domestic abuse without any evidence and have the husband removed from the family house and prevent him from seeing the kids.

I know 2 work colleagues who have had that happen in the last 5 years.

The social services and police just rubber-stamped everything the woman said.

There are men on this site who are perpetrators of domestic abuse against women, they won't come forward and admit to it but statistically there are abusers on Fabguys.

The victims of domestic abuse need courage and support to leave an abusive relationship, they may be coerced into staying through fear, entrapment and escalating abuse. Without support they remain trapped.

I work with survivors of abuse, the vast majority are women with an abusive male partner but it happens in same sex relationships and on occasions men with a female abuser.

To blame couples splitting causing a housing crisis is dog whistle misogamist ignorance. As SaraJevo said the mass privatisation of social housing has led to the housing crisis"

❤️ ❤️ ❤️

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By *ookingaroundMan
10 weeks ago

Bristol


"The probably split because one used the wrong pronouns

I can see why you have hidden your profile.

Human rage bait producers need a bit of help

Whatever you want to think "

Ahh so you cannot tell us what you think, just try to undermine other people’s comments.

Bot behaviour 101

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By *oosterladMan
10 weeks ago

ipswich

The pressure on housing was caused by deregulation of how much could be borrowed to buy a home.

It used to be 3.5 times joint income or 5 times single income to get a mortgage and that was it. That disappeared so prices soared and two incomes required to buy a home now putting pressuee on families and relationships.

Then there's childcare costs for working parents resulting in why bother and lower birth rates.

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By *3versMan
10 weeks ago

glasgow

There aren't enough retirees living like the Golden Girls

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By *ookingaroundMan
10 weeks ago

Bristol


"The pressure on housing was caused by deregulation of how much could be borrowed to buy a home.

It used to be 3.5 times joint income or 5 times single income to get a mortgage and that was it. That disappeared so prices soared and two incomes required to buy a home now putting pressuee on families and relationships.

Then there's childcare costs for working parents resulting in why bother and lower birth rates.

"

You are in serious danger of bringing sense into the discussion!

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By *oosterladMan
10 weeks ago

ipswich


"There aren't enough retirees living like the Golden Girls"

Ha ha I'd have you down as Blanche.

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By *3versMan
10 weeks ago

glasgow


"There aren't enough retirees living like the Golden Girls

Ha ha I'd have you down as Blanche."

I do declare, your sweet words could charm the mornin' dew right off the honeysuckle.

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By *ildwestheroMan
10 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells


"Silly question but could the housing shortage have anything to do with our ever expanding population? Just asking. "

How could several million more people in the country possibly cause a housing problem.

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By *ezzadMan
10 weeks ago

Nottingham

There’s more housing in the Uk than ever; if the population stayed the same the problem would disappear with a few small additions not 1.5 million

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By *ookingaroundMan
10 weeks ago

Bristol

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By *ookingaroundMan
10 weeks ago

Bristol


"Silly question but could the housing shortage have anything to do with our ever expanding population? Just asking.

How could several million more people in the country possibly cause a housing problem."

It doesn’t have to, many countries manage to deal with growing populations.

But those countries treat homes as homes, not as investment portfolios.

These countries treat tenants like humans.

In this country we have a housing crisis…

Hmm

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By *ornyfeckerMan
10 weeks ago

Dundee


"In my experience it's not a recent phenomenon,when I started doing the job i do in the mid 1980's, I came across it often ."

Agreed. Does anyone remember Peter Lilley at the Tory party conference his "I have a little list" speech?

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By (user no longer on site)
10 weeks ago


"There’s more housing in the Uk than ever; if the population stayed the same the problem would disappear with a few small additions not 1.5 million "

Your essentially arguing for people to stop getting older, life to pause so the housing market can catch up?

Countries are like massive ponsy schemes you need ever growing population to pay the pension, and taxes for the ever growing number of retirees and with a below stable birth rate you have to import your growth.

Only Sub-Saharan African countries have an above replacement birth rate.

All this hostility both legislative and within our own population is counter intuitive to what were storing in the future.

It's more immigration we need not less. But we do need a better narrative for population and a government that builds the infrastructure needed for our future population.

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By *ornyfeckerMan
10 weeks ago

Dundee


"The pressure on housing was caused by deregulation of how much could be borrowed to buy a home.

It used to be 3.5 times joint income or 5 times single income to get a mortgage and that was it. That disappeared so prices soared and two incomes required to buy a home now putting pressuee on families and relationships.

Then there's childcare costs for working parents resulting in why bother and lower birth rates.

"

That is basic economics of money supply. Prices rise to absorb the available money. When there was predominantly one wage earner to a household then house prices was roughly three times income. When there was predominantly two wage earners then house price rose to three times joint income. But now that housing is viewed as an investment, the wage multiple increased leading to a rise in house prices. That is it in very simplistic terms.

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By *ammy57Man
6 weeks ago

Stevenage

Housing is a speculative market, that needs regulation.

Specifically we need the government to tax speculative investors out of the market.

It's a pretty simple solution. Just massively unpopular with corporate political sponsors.

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By *ookingaroundMan
6 weeks ago

Bristol


"Housing is a speculative market, that needs regulation.

Specifically we need the government to tax speculative investors out of the market.

It's a pretty simple solution. Just massively unpopular with corporate political sponsors. "

Aye, fair enough. I was going to respond to that, but I didn’t have a substantive addition to make.

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By *leepflowerMan
6 weeks ago

Leek


"Housing is a speculative market, that needs regulation.

Specifically we need the government to tax speculative investors out of the market.

It's a pretty simple solution. Just massively unpopular with corporate political sponsors. "

That would put an end to Homes Under The Hammer pretty sharpish.

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By *ookingaroundMan
6 weeks ago

Bristol


"Housing is a speculative market, that needs regulation.

Specifically we need the government to tax speculative investors out of the market.

It's a pretty simple solution. Just massively unpopular with corporate political sponsors.

That would put an end to Homes Under The Hammer pretty sharpish."

You aren’t discouraging anyone with that. 🤣

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By *leepflowerMan
6 weeks ago

Leek


"Housing is a speculative market, that needs regulation.

Specifically we need the government to tax speculative investors out of the market.

It's a pretty simple solution. Just massively unpopular with corporate political sponsors.

That would put an end to Homes Under The Hammer pretty sharpish.

You aren’t discouraging anyone with that. 🤣"

It was merely presented without comment.

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By *ookingaroundMan
6 weeks ago

Bristol


"Housing is a speculative market, that needs regulation.

Specifically we need the government to tax speculative investors out of the market.

It's a pretty simple solution. Just massively unpopular with corporate political sponsors.

That would put an end to Homes Under The Hammer pretty sharpish.

You aren’t discouraging anyone with that. 🤣

It was merely presented without comment. "

What do we need to do to get rid of storage wars?

We could be on a roll here.

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By *ammy57Man
6 weeks ago

Stevenage


"Housing is a speculative market, that needs regulation.

Specifically we need the government to tax speculative investors out of the market.

It's a pretty simple solution. Just massively unpopular with corporate political sponsors.

That would put an end to Homes Under The Hammer pretty sharpish.

You aren’t discouraging anyone with that. 🤣

It was merely presented without comment.

What do we need to do to get rid of storage wars?

We could be on a roll here. "

Way it's going there will soon be a new series where you bid to clear evicted tenants. You can see it now, tips on demographic profiling evictions vs area to maximise availability of"bargains" .

Never hear the stories about storage units with kids toys and school bags ...

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By *ookingaroundMan
6 weeks ago

Bristol


"Housing is a speculative market, that needs regulation.

Specifically we need the government to tax speculative investors out of the market.

It's a pretty simple solution. Just massively unpopular with corporate political sponsors.

That would put an end to Homes Under The Hammer pretty sharpish.

You aren’t discouraging anyone with that. 🤣

It was merely presented without comment.

What do we need to do to get rid of storage wars?

We could be on a roll here.

Way it's going there will soon be a new series where you bid to clear evicted tenants. You can see it now, tips on demographic profiling evictions vs area to maximise availability of"bargains" .

Never hear the stories about storage units with kids toys and school bags ...

"

No, indeed we don’t.

Maybe this needs to widen to “reality” tv in general.

One of the UK’s most destructive exports since Opium.

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By *ammy57Man
6 weeks ago

Stevenage

Any suggestions for good alternatives to MainStreamMedia?

(MSM)

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By *eedsbearmanMan
6 weeks ago

Leeds


"Any suggestions for good alternatives to MainStreamMedia?

(MSM)"

Truthsocial

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By *ammy57Man
6 weeks ago

Stevenage


"Any suggestions for good alternatives to MainStreamMedia?

(MSM)

Truthsocial "

Well they do say "know your enemy"

But I could just read mail and telegraph? !?!

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By *ookingaroundMan
6 weeks ago

Bristol


"Any suggestions for good alternatives to MainStreamMedia?

(MSM)

Truthsocial "

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

That is a great answer, fair play

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