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" I'd be lying if I said I've never contributed to this dynamic myself, and I'm curious to understand why it happens. " You go first. Perhaps you can explain why you judge consensual adult sex to be exploitative. | |||
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"You go first. Perhaps you can explain why you judge consensual adult sex to be exploitative." Quod Erat Demonstrandum!😁 Let's focus and discuss the topic at hand trying not to get our smalls in a tangle this time eh Sara? If you would be so kind. 🙂 | |||
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" I'd be lying if I said I've never contributed to this dynamic myself, and I'm curious to understand why it happens. ." It IS the topic in hand. You confess to doing it. So I ask you why you do it. If you cannot explain why you do it, what on earth makes you think anyone else can explain why they do it. | |||
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" I'd be lying if I said I've never contributed to this dynamic myself, and I'm curious to understand why it happens. You go first. Perhaps you can explain why you judge consensual adult sex to be exploitative. " Why is your first instinct to respond in a conflicting manner to someone trying to simply have a considered conversation? It’s kinda proving the OP’s point immediately. | |||
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" I'd be lying if I said I've never contributed to this dynamic myself, and I'm curious to understand why it happens. You go first. Perhaps you can explain why you judge consensual adult sex to be exploitative. Why is your first instinct to respond in a conflicting manner to someone trying to simply have a considered conversation? It’s kinda proving the OP’s point immediately." See above. The OP confesses to engaging in such practices but offers no explanation for his own behaviour. Hence the invitation for him to go first. | |||
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" I'd be lying if I said I've never contributed to this dynamic myself, and I'm curious to understand why it happens. You go first. Perhaps you can explain why you judge consensual adult sex to be exploitative. Why is your first instinct to respond in a conflicting manner to someone trying to simply have a considered conversation? It’s kinda proving the OP’s point immediately. See above. The OP confesses to engaging in such practices but offers no explanation for his own behaviour. Hence the invitation for him to go first. " It wasn’t just an invitation though was it? It was worded in a very specific manner and you know what you were doing when you did so. | |||
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" I'd be lying if I said I've never contributed to this dynamic myself, and I'm curious to understand why it happens. You go first. Perhaps you can explain why you judge consensual adult sex to be exploitative. Why is your first instinct to respond in a conflicting manner to someone trying to simply have a considered conversation? It’s kinda proving the OP’s point immediately. See above. The OP confesses to engaging in such practices but offers no explanation for his own behaviour. Hence the invitation for him to go first. It wasn’t just an invitation though was it? It was worded in a very specific manner and you know what you were doing when you did so." Yes, I’m still pissed off at him for smearing me as someone who “grooms, forces or coerces” people into sex against their will. | |||
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" I'd be lying if I said I've never contributed to this dynamic myself, and I'm curious to understand why it happens. You go first. Perhaps you can explain why you judge consensual adult sex to be exploitative. Why is your first instinct to respond in a conflicting manner to someone trying to simply have a considered conversation? It’s kinda proving the OP’s point immediately. See above. The OP confesses to engaging in such practices but offers no explanation for his own behaviour. Hence the invitation for him to go first. It wasn’t just an invitation though was it? It was worded in a very specific manner and you know what you were doing when you did so. Yes, I’m still pissed off at him for smearing me as someone who “grooms, forces or coerces” people into sex against their will. " But this thread isn’t about you? | |||
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" I'd be lying if I said I've never contributed to this dynamic myself, and I'm curious to understand why it happens. You go first. Perhaps you can explain why you judge consensual adult sex to be exploitative. Why is your first instinct to respond in a conflicting manner to someone trying to simply have a considered conversation? It’s kinda proving the OP’s point immediately. See above. The OP confesses to engaging in such practices but offers no explanation for his own behaviour. Hence the invitation for him to go first. It wasn’t just an invitation though was it? It was worded in a very specific manner and you know what you were doing when you did so. Yes, I’m still pissed off at him for smearing me as someone who “grooms, forces or coerces” people into sex against their will. But this thread isn’t about you? " I am inviting the OP to make it about him. He confesses to engaging in such practices, but offers no explanation why. Perhaps he could shed some light on himself first. | |||
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"Some people like conflict I guess. A good argument is better than a good fuck for some folks. As for community, the LGBTQ+++ community has been forced to accept everyone, whereas not everyone can get along, or doesn't identify as anyone else. As a gay man, I don't consider myself part the trans community as I know nothing about it and don't really want to know anything about it. Each to their own. Hot topic." Yeh, a fair point. I got help from a lawyer a while ago that helps LGB people with visas. He refuses to accept the rest of the tqi+ and won't help them (it's a free service). He just doesn't feel like they belong in "the community" as trans, queer, intersex etc are less about sexuality and more so a blend of the physical/mental/social side of "identity" and he doesn't want to be associated, which is fair enough. I distance myself a bit from it too tbh. Largely because Unfortunately the media pushes the extreme side of both LGBT nonsense and anti LGBT nonsense to keep everyone fighting. And for me personally, I've had too many negative experiences with younger (and some older) LGBT people that get very angry about honest mistakes with pronouns or just in general they play the victim card. The younger LGBT people, from MY personal experience, have no clue what hardships gay people went though in previous (recent) decades. What true hardship is. I honestly just block non-binary people without talking to them and I have stopped giving them the benefit of the doubt. And what I mean by that is - i assume they're not comfortable with being non- binary or whatever and I assume that they just want conflict over little things. Because if they were comfortable with their "label" they wouldn't feel the need to fight random strangers over innocent mistakes. For example, if someone says I'm gay instead of bi. I don't care to correct them anymore because I'm comfortable in my sexual identity. I don't care what other people say or think. My sexuality isn't their business. I just want to have sex/relationships with men and blend in to society like many other bi/gay men and women. I appreciate and still see the need/benefit for pride events etc but don't care that much to join in most of the time. So what's the source of the arguements? From my opinion its: 1)the media pushing stuff on us. 2)The loud minority of LGBT making us look bad. 3)Too much change too fast and some of it being pure nonsense, that's clearly just attention seeking behaviour. It erodes the tolerance that was built over decades of hardship from gay people. 4)The victim mentality. | |||
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" I'd be lying if I said I've never contributed to this dynamic myself, and I'm curious to understand why it happens. You go first. Perhaps you can explain why you judge consensual adult sex to be exploitative. Why is your first instinct to respond in a conflicting manner to someone trying to simply have a considered conversation? It’s kinda proving the OP’s point immediately. See above. The OP confesses to engaging in such practices but offers no explanation for his own behaviour. Hence the invitation for him to go first. It wasn’t just an invitation though was it? It was worded in a very specific manner and you know what you were doing when you did so. Yes, I’m still pissed off at him for smearing me as someone who “grooms, forces or coerces” people into sex against their will. But this thread isn’t about you? I am inviting the OP to make it about him. He confesses to engaging in such practices, but offers no explanation why. Perhaps he could shed some light on himself first. " Just because you two are having a private argument doesn’t mean it’s fine to just come in and ruin every thread you want to. If you want to have a tiff, can you start your own thread in the “tedious bollocks” forum and carp away there? | |||
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"Nobody asked if we were happy to be force-teamed with Q+. Nobody defines what is included in those characters. Personally wouldn't use the word Queer, as it is an insult. Very sceptical about the true intentions of Critical Queer Theory as an ideology. Definitely do not wish to be associated with MAPs, who are often included under the "+"." I think you raise a good point about the force-teaming. There isn’t any direct correlation with these groups and it doesn’t work to just say “well they aren’t straight so let’s put them over here” Not least as that creates an immediate dichotomy between straight people and the rest of us which simply doesn’t exist but which victim theory works very hard to enforce. | |||
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"whatever. good luck, and adios. " I'm honestly not trying to offend you, Sara. The topic you mentioned seems to relate to your post elsewhere on the Forum. If you're interested in discussing conflict dynamics in this thread, you're welcome to join the conversation. If not, you're free to explore other topics that interest you. The choice is yours entirely. | |||
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"There is no LGBT (and whatever else is fashionable this week) community, it's just like when people thought they would create a BAME community and it soon transpired that just because you are non-white you don't belong in the same group. The same applies to sexuality and now it would seem gender-identity. I really have nothing in common with someone who is asexual or two-spirited " I have to agree with this. Whilst I very much enjoy being sarcastic I am certainly not a member of any LGBT community. | |||
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"Someone gone UNLOS??? Not Ms Jevo surely??? "It seems that way, probably only temporary though. | |||
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"There is no LGBT (and whatever else is fashionable this week) community, it's just like when people thought they would create a BAME community and it soon transpired that just because you are non-white you don't belong in the same group. The same applies to sexuality and now it would seem gender-identity. I really have nothing in common with someone who is asexual or two-spirited I have to agree with this. Whilst I very much enjoy being sarcastic I am certainly not a member of any LGBT community." I’ve been told in no uncertain terms by self proclaimed leaders of the entire community that being a polyamorous male, I am more likely to be a violent abuser and therefore I need to accept being scrutinised and judged on account of my apparent privilege. It’s not a community, it’s a bunch of unconnected people who, like every other bunch of people, include bigots who believe they are uniquely right and have impunity based on their self proclaimed status. | |||
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"There is no LGBT (and whatever else is fashionable this week) community, it's just like when people thought they would create a BAME community and it soon transpired that just because you are non-white you don't belong in the same group. The same applies to sexuality and now it would seem gender-identity. I really have nothing in common with someone who is asexual or two-spirited " I didn't mean to cause any confusion, so my apologies G3vers. I used 'GLBT+ Community' as a loose general umbrella term for guys on Fabguys who share similar interests. Personally I don't consider myself as part of the GLBT+ Community, I'm just a ordinary down-to-earth guy who is attracted to certain types of other guys, it's not a major facet of my life. I do recognise that each individual is unique, and a more nuanced approach might have been better used. Any suggestions for perhaps a more fitting collective term? | |||
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"There is no LGBT (and whatever else is fashionable this week) community, it's just like when people thought they would create a BAME community and it soon transpired that just because you are non-white you don't belong in the same group. The same applies to sexuality and now it would seem gender-identity. I really have nothing in common with someone who is asexual or two-spirited I didn't mean to cause any confusion, so my apologies G3vers. I used 'GLBT+ Community' as a loose general umbrella term for guys on Fabguys who share similar interests. Personally I don't consider myself as part of the GLBT+ Community, I'm just a ordinary down-to-earth guy who is attracted to certain types of other guys, it's not a major facet of my life. I do recognise that each individual is unique, and a more nuanced approach might have been better used. Any suggestions for perhaps a more fitting collective term? " I think the idea of a collective term is the issue, it’s trying to bring together groups with little or no common ground. Human does quite well for most of us and includes everyone. | |||
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"There is no LGBT (and whatever else is fashionable this week) community, it's just like when people thought they would create a BAME community and it soon transpired that just because you are non-white you don't belong in the same group. The same applies to sexuality and now it would seem gender-identity. I really have nothing in common with someone who is asexual or two-spirited I didn't mean to cause any confusion, so my apologies G3vers. I used 'GLBT+ Community' as a loose general umbrella term for guys on Fabguys who share similar interests. Personally I don't consider myself as part of the GLBT+ Community, I'm just a ordinary down-to-earth guy who is attracted to certain types of other guys, it's not a major facet of my life. I do recognise that each individual is unique, and a more nuanced approach might have been better used. Any suggestions for perhaps a more fitting collective term? " There certainly shouldn't be any Lesbians on here if you're simply describing Fabguys users | |||
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"Someone gone UNLOS??? Not Ms Jevo surely???
It seems that way, probably only temporary though."Taken down by some Somali gang? | |||
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"Someone gone UNLOS??? Not Ms Jevo surely???
It seems that way, probably only temporary though.
Taken down by some Somali gang?"Lost in the jungle!...In the words of Battery Sergeant-Major Williams:- "Oh Dear! How sad, too bad, never mind! 😁 | |||
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"What is a MAP?" Pedos. Someone in the ministry of LGBTQ+ decided to rename them as Minor Attracted Persons, are "Paedophile" came with some negative connotations. | |||
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"What is a MAP? Pedos. Someone in the ministry of LGBTQ+ decided to rename them as Minor Attracted Persons, are "Paedophile" came with some negative connotations. " Well I think we can gladly ignore that person and not pander to possibly the least serious piece of political correctness I have ever seen. | |||
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"We frequently see examples here within the Forum as well with the wider GLBT+ community of various degrees of judgemental, vicious, shallow, vitriolic, sarcastic and rude attitude towards others. I'd be lying if I said I've never contributed to this dynamic myself, and I'm curious to understand why it happens. Is it likely due to insecurity, competition, societal pressures, keyboard warfare or something more complex? I am genuinely interested in exploring this topic and hearing your thoughts – no agenda here, just a desire to understand." We seem to have got a tad sidetracked guys – may I refocus the discussion on the original question above please? 🙂 | |||
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"We frequently see examples here within the Forum as well with the wider GLBT+ community of various degrees of judgemental, vicious, shallow, vitriolic, sarcastic and rude attitude towards others. I'd be lying if I said I've never contributed to this dynamic myself, and I'm curious to understand why it happens. Is it likely due to insecurity, competition, societal pressures, keyboard warfare or something more complex? I am genuinely interested in exploring this topic and hearing your thoughts – no agenda here, just a desire to understand. We seem to have got a tad sidetracked guys – may I refocus the discussion on the original question above please? 🙂 " Get on a Bus and try to make up with Sara. We're missing him.  | |||
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"We frequently see examples here within the Forum as well with the wider GLBT+ community of various degrees of judgemental, vicious, shallow, vitriolic, sarcastic and rude attitude towards others. I'd be lying if I said I've never contributed to this dynamic myself, and I'm curious to understand why it happens. Is it likely due to insecurity, competition, societal pressures, keyboard warfare or something more complex? I am genuinely interested in exploring this topic and hearing your thoughts – no agenda here, just a desire to understand. We seem to have got a tad sidetracked guys – may I refocus the discussion on the original question above please? 🙂 Get on a Bus and try to make up with Sara. We're missing him. "Errr? .. Sara?? Sara who?? 🤔..... Apparently reincarnation currently in progress, watch this space.... same book of mystery, fantasy and vitriolic angst just different cover and title! 😆 And back to the topic under discussion if you please gentlemen (if I'm still permitted to use that collective term)!! lol 😁 | |||
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"We frequently see examples here within the Forum as well with the wider GLBT+ community of various degrees of judgemental, vicious, shallow, vitriolic, sarcastic and rude attitude towards others. I'd be lying if I said I've never contributed to this dynamic myself, and I'm curious to understand why it happens. Is it likely due to insecurity, competition, societal pressures, keyboard warfare or something more complex? I am genuinely interested in exploring this topic and hearing your thoughts – no agenda here, just a desire to understand." It's just human nature. People have different opinions. It's not unique to the LGBTQ community or Fabguys. Look at Brexit. Look at Twitter. | |||
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"When I was younger, my mother used to tell me that if people are not nice to you, it is because they love you. So, whenever guys treated me badly and abused me sexually with their sex buddies I always think it is because they love me too much. AND whenever people are nice to me, my mother used to tell me they are suspicious and want something from me or to exploit me. So, I always feel very scared when guys show me love. Till today I still feel the same way, always love it when guys abused me sexually or arranged a group of guys to fuck me. " And when guys are rude to me, I never take any offence and never feel hurt or reactive or defensive because I thought they love me too much. | |||
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"There is no LGBT (and whatever else is fashionable this week) community, it's just like when people thought they would create a BAME community and it soon transpired that just because you are non-white you don't belong in the same group. The same applies to sexuality and now it would seem gender-identity. I really have nothing in common with someone who is asexual or two-spirited " 
One of the few people on these forums that actually talks common sense. Do yourselves a favour and listen to what he has to say. | |||
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"There is no LGBT (and whatever else is fashionable this week) community, it's just like when people thought they would create a BAME community and it soon transpired that just because you are non-white you don't belong in the same group. The same applies to sexuality and now it would seem gender-identity. I really have nothing in common with someone who is asexual or two-spirited
One of the few people on these forums that actually talks common sense. Do yourselves a favour and listen to what he has to say. "I don’t think you understand why people come to forums. It certainly isn’t to see a sensible point of view and move towards it. | |||
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" Get on a Bus and try to make up with Sara. We're missing him.
Errr? .. Sara?? Sara who?? 🤔.....
"Apparently Ms Jevo has left the site. Quite a shock since she was a prolific poster. Think we will all miss her whether we agreed with her or not. Hopefully soon to return a Bel[la] Grade or Za[ra] Greb. | |||
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" Get on a Bus and try to make up with Sara. We're missing him.
Errr? .. Sara?? Sara who?? 🤔.....
Apparently Ms Jevo has left the site. Quite a shock since she was a prolific poster. Think we will all miss her whether we agreed with her or not.
Hopefully soon to return a Bel[la] Grade or Za[ra] Greb. "The prolific Sara jevo seems to have had a meltdown and ditched the site in a tantrum! Don't worry, though - he'll be back, masquerading under a new username, but his distinctive style will give him away as soon as he starts showing his true colours again! lol 😁 | |||
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"We frequently see examples here within the Forum as well with the wider GLBT+ community of various degrees of judgemental, vicious, shallow, vitriolic, sarcastic and rude attitude towards others. I'd be lying if I said I've never contributed to this dynamic myself, and I'm curious to understand why it happens. Is it likely due to insecurity, competition, societal pressures, keyboard warfare or something more complex? I am genuinely interested in exploring this topic and hearing your thoughts – no agenda here, just a desire to understand." In considering the matter myself, it seems like a mix of factors. The aftermath of homophobia and transphobia likely plays a role, where societal negativity has been absorbed and turned inward or outward towards others. Everyday stress, boredom, and frustration also bear influence. These pressures can add to the tension we see within the Forum. The pressure to conform to certain standards or norms can lead to judgement and criticism. Fighting for acceptance and rights is exhausting and can make people frustrated and burnt out, causing some to lash out at others. Perhaps we're also seeing the effects of social media amplifying extreme voices and creating an environment where nuance is lost. It would be interesting to hear others' perspectives and explore this further. | |||
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"Wider society too has generally become increasingly confrontational and divisive, losing the art of respectful disagreement. Empathy has given way to aggression and impatience, and trust is scarce. We're more connected than ever, yet more fragmented and insular then ever too. Mental health issues, economic inequality, and struggling education systems have taken a toll. The traditional family unit has eroded, and violent crime, illegal drugs, and reckless driving have ravaged communities. Technology often amplifies differences, and leadership has become polarised. Our roads have become battlegrounds, with road rage and reckless driving claiming lives. Perhaps it's time to reboot the conversation and rediscover human connection, but I fear that's now beyond hope in all honesty. Just the cynical perspective of a 67 y/o old guy who has now evolved into one of those old gits I recall in my youth who would "tut" and say "I don't know what the world is coming too, it was never as bad as this in our day!".... ....Ah well lad, nurse will be bringing your elevens soon, I hope she remembers the choccy digestive that you're not supposed to have!!😄 " I think, if you take the pandemic to one side, all of what you write about can be attributed to the awful effects of social media. I genuinely believe that. | |||
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"Wider society too has generally become increasingly confrontational and divisive, losing the art of respectful disagreement. Empathy has given way to aggression and impatience, and trust is scarce. We're more connected than ever, yet more fragmented and insular then ever too. Mental health issues, economic inequality, and struggling education systems have taken a toll. The traditional family unit has eroded, and violent crime, illegal drugs, and reckless driving have ravaged communities. Technology often amplifies differences, and leadership has become polarised. Our roads have become battlegrounds, with road rage and reckless driving claiming lives. Perhaps it's time to reboot the conversation and rediscover human connection, but I fear that's now beyond hope in all honesty. Just the cynical perspective of a 67 y/o old guy who has now evolved into one of those old gits I recall in my youth who would "tut" and say "I don't know what the world is coming too, it was never as bad as this in our day!".... ....Ah well lad, nurse will be bringing your elevens soon, I hope she remembers the choccy digestive that you're not supposed to have!!😄 I think, if you take the pandemic to one side, all of what you write about can be attributed to the awful effects of social media. I genuinely believe that. " Yes, the fragmentation and aggressiveness of modern society can be attributed to various factors including as you say, the impact of social media and is a complex multifaceted topic, I believe the roots of this issue stretch back as far as World War II, when women entered the workforce as part of the war effort. This shift brought about a significant change in societal dynamics, as women gained independence and autonomy. After the war, many women chose to continue working, leading to a shift away from traditional family structures. As a result, discipline in the home became diluted, and the number of broken homes and single-parent families increased. Over time, this trend has contributed to the erosion of social cohesion and the downfall of traditional family values. The consequences of this shift are still being felt today, with many families struggling to find stability and support. | |||
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" Get on a Bus and try to make up with Sara. We're missing him.
Errr? .. Sara?? Sara who?? 🤔.....
Apparently Ms Jevo has left the site. Quite a shock since she was a prolific poster. Think we will all miss her whether we agreed with her or not.
Hopefully soon to return a Bel[la] Grade or Za[ra] Greb. "..... .... ... 🏴 Indeed she will be missed. Intellect,wit and a warmth which is rare on 'social media'🏴 | |||
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"Wider society too has generally become increasingly confrontational and divisive, losing the art of respectful disagreement. Empathy has given way to aggression and impatience, and trust is scarce. We're more connected than ever, yet more fragmented and insular then ever too. Mental health issues, economic inequality, and struggling education systems have taken a toll. The traditional family unit has eroded, and violent crime, illegal drugs, and reckless driving have ravaged communities. Technology often amplifies differences, and leadership has become polarised. Our roads have become battlegrounds, with road rage and reckless driving claiming lives. Perhaps it's time to reboot the conversation and rediscover human connection, but I fear that's now beyond hope in all honesty. Just the cynical perspective of a 67 y/o old guy who has now evolved into one of those old gits I recall in my youth who would "tut" and say "I don't know what the world is coming too, it was never as bad as this in our day!".... ....Ah well lad, nurse will be bringing your elevens soon, I hope she remembers the choccy digestive that you're not supposed to have!!😄 I think, if you take the pandemic to one side, all of what you write about can be attributed to the awful effects of social media. I genuinely believe that. Yes, the fragmentation and aggressiveness of modern society can be attributed to various factors including as you say, the impact of social media and is a complex multifaceted topic, I believe the roots of this issue stretch back as far as World War II, when women entered the workforce as part of the war effort. This shift brought about a significant change in societal dynamics, as women gained independence and autonomy. After the war, many women chose to continue working, leading to a shift away from traditional family structures. As a result, discipline in the home became diluted, and the number of broken homes and single-parent families increased. Over time, this trend has contributed to the erosion of social cohesion and the downfall of traditional family values. The consequences of this shift are still being felt today, with many families struggling to find stability and support. " Those pesky women..... | |||
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" Get on a Bus and try to make up with Sara. We're missing him.
Errr? .. Sara?? Sara who?? 🤔.....
Apparently Ms Jevo has left the site. Quite a shock since she was a prolific poster. Think we will all miss her whether we agreed with her or not.
Hopefully soon to return a Bel[la] Grade or Za[ra] Greb.
The prolific Sara jevo seems to have had a meltdown and ditched the site in a tantrum! Don't worry, though - he'll be back, masquerading under a new username, but his distinctive style will give him away as soon as he starts showing his true colours again! lol 😁"Floating about driving a person from the site??? If it's a right wing echo chamber your after you've already got Twitter | |||
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" Get on a Bus and try to make up with Sara. We're missing him.
Errr? .. Sara?? Sara who?? 🤔.....
Apparently Ms Jevo has left the site. Quite a shock since she was a prolific poster. Think we will all miss her whether we agreed with her or not.
Hopefully soon to return a Bel[la] Grade or Za[ra] Greb.
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🏴 Indeed she will be missed. Intellect,wit and a warmth which is rare on 'social media'🏴
"Indeed she will be missed. We rarely agreed and often clashed in the nicest, politest and most respectable ways but that does not mean we did not respect each other. | |||
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" Get on a Bus and try to make up with Sara. We're missing him.
Errr? .. Sara?? Sara who?? 🤔.....
Apparently Ms Jevo has left the site. Quite a shock since she was a prolific poster. Think we will all miss her whether we agreed with her or not.
Hopefully soon to return a Bel[la] Grade or Za[ra] Greb.
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🏴 Indeed she will be missed. Intellect,wit and a warmth which is rare on 'social media'🏴
"Humourous, entertaining, original and devoid of bitterness. I don't recall having any issues with Sara and it's a shame he decided to leave. | |||
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" Get on a Bus and try to make up with Sara. We're missing him.
Errr? .. Sara?? Sara who?? 🤔.....
Apparently Ms Jevo has left the site. Quite a shock since she was a prolific poster. Think we will all miss her whether we agreed with her or not.
Hopefully soon to return a Bel[la] Grade or Za[ra] Greb.
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🏴 Indeed she will be missed. Intellect,wit and a warmth which is rare on 'social media'🏴
Humourous, entertaining, original and devoid of bitterness. I don't recall having any issues with Sara and it's a shame he decided to leave."Others seem determined to gloat about it. Not an attractive quality. | |||
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" Get on a Bus and try to make up with Sara. We're missing him.
Errr? .. Sara?? Sara who?? 🤔.....
Apparently Ms Jevo has left the site. Quite a shock since she was a prolific poster. Think we will all miss her whether we agreed with her or not.
Hopefully soon to return a Bel[la] Grade or Za[ra] Greb.
The prolific Sara jevo seems to have had a meltdown and ditched the site in a tantrum! Don't worry, though - he'll be back, masquerading under a new username, but his distinctive style will give him away as soon as he starts showing his true colours again! lol 😁
Floating about driving a person from the site???
If it's a right wing echo chamber your after you've already got Twitter "I don’t think anyone drove then from the site, they were being unpleasant to people and took the huff when called out. Not something that would elicit too much sympathy from people with critical thinking faculties. It’s fine to bleater shite and antagonise people, but to think you can do so with impunity, and then pick your ball up and go home when people challenge your antagonistic behaviour is at best juvenile. | |||
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" Get on a Bus and try to make up with Sara. We're missing him.
Errr? .. Sara?? Sara who?? 🤔.....
Apparently Ms Jevo has left the site. Quite a shock since she was a prolific poster. Think we will all miss her whether we agreed with her or not.
Hopefully soon to return a Bel[la] Grade or Za[ra] Greb.
The prolific Sara jevo seems to have had a meltdown and ditched the site in a tantrum! Don't worry, though - he'll be back, masquerading under a new username, but his distinctive style will give him away as soon as he starts showing his true colours again! lol 😁
Floating about driving a person from the site???
If it's a right wing echo chamber your after you've already got Twitter
I don’t think anyone drove then from the site, they were being unpleasant to people and took the huff when called out. Not something that would elicit too much sympathy from people with critical thinking faculties.
It’s fine to bleater shite and antagonise people, but to think you can do so with impunity, and then pick your ball up and go home when people challenge your antagonistic behaviour is at best juvenile.
"From my interpretation people were accusing them of making stuff up and worse was the accusations of exploitation. They had a right to be peeved, personally I didn't see any unpleasant posts from Sara plenty of vile stuff towards them. | |||
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" Get on a Bus and try to make up with Sara. We're missing him.
Errr? .. Sara?? Sara who?? 🤔.....
Apparently Ms Jevo has left the site. Quite a shock since she was a prolific poster. Think we will all miss her whether we agreed with her or not.
Hopefully soon to return a Bel[la] Grade or Za[ra] Greb.
The prolific Sara jevo seems to have had a meltdown and ditched the site in a tantrum! Don't worry, though - he'll be back, masquerading under a new username, but his distinctive style will give him away as soon as he starts showing his true colours again! lol 😁
Floating about driving a person from the site???
If it's a right wing echo chamber your after you've already got Twitter
I don’t think anyone drove then from the site, they were being unpleasant to people and took the huff when called out. Not something that would elicit too much sympathy from people with critical thinking faculties.
It’s fine to bleater shite and antagonise people, but to think you can do so with impunity, and then pick your ball up and go home when people challenge your antagonistic behaviour is at best juvenile.
From my interpretation people were accusing them of making stuff up and worse was the accusations of exploitation.
They had a right to be peeved, personally I didn't see any unpleasant posts from Sara plenty of vile stuff towards them."Apart from trying to hyjack a totally unrelated thread with carry over from a previous petty argument, and then taking the huff when challenged with staying on topic. If a person is so hooked on forum conversations that they spend all day there and cannot let them drop when the thread goes away, it is probably for everyone’s benefit, theirs most of all that they spend time not online. | |||
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" Get on a Bus and try to make up with Sara. We're missing him.
Errr? .. Sara?? Sara who?? 🤔.....
Apparently Ms Jevo has left the site. Quite a shock since she was a prolific poster. Think we will all miss her whether we agreed with her or not.
Hopefully soon to return a Bel[la] Grade or Za[ra] Greb.
The prolific Sara jevo seems to have had a meltdown and ditched the site in a tantrum! Don't worry, though - he'll be back, masquerading under a new username, but his distinctive style will give him away as soon as he starts showing his true colours again! lol 😁
Floating about driving a person from the site???
If it's a right wing echo chamber your after you've already got Twitter
I don’t think anyone drove then from the site, they were being unpleasant to people and took the huff when called out. Not something that would elicit too much sympathy from people with critical thinking faculties.
It’s fine to bleater shite and antagonise people, but to think you can do so with impunity, and then pick your ball up and go home when people challenge your antagonistic behaviour is at best juvenile.
From my interpretation people were accusing them of making stuff up and worse was the accusations of exploitation.
They had a right to be peeved, personally I didn't see any unpleasant posts from Sara plenty of vile stuff towards them.
Apart from trying to hyjack a totally unrelated thread with carry over from a previous petty argument, and then taking the huff when challenged with staying on topic.
If a person is so hooked on forum conversations that they spend all day there and cannot let them drop when the thread goes away, it is probably for everyone’s benefit, theirs most of all that they spend time not online."It's not completely unrelated though. The post is about the unpleasantness between LGBT people. They were asking OP to explain their reasons for being so unpleasant | |||
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" Well I think we can gladly ignore that person and not pander to possibly the least serious piece of political correctness I have ever seen." Unfortunately that horse has already bolted. They are already considered as part of the "+" by some of the LGBTQ+ community as well as the rest of the population. We don't get to decide who identifies as "+" and we are supposed to blindly support them "for the community".... Remember just how bad the public perception has been over the "mermaid scandal" and Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust's Gender Identity Development Service handing out puberty blockers to every tomboy girl and lad who likes pink... Yes, the "T" is very tainted at the minute too... I support LGB and that's it. | |||
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" Get on a Bus and try to make up with Sara. We're missing him.
Errr? .. Sara?? Sara who?? 🤔.....
Apparently Ms Jevo has left the site. Quite a shock since she was a prolific poster. Think we will all miss her whether we agreed with her or not.
Hopefully soon to return a Bel[la] Grade or Za[ra] Greb.
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🏴 Indeed she will be missed. Intellect,wit and a warmth which is rare on 'social media'🏴
Humourous, entertaining, original and devoid of bitterness. I don't recall having any issues with Sara and it's a shame he decided to leave.
Others seem determined to gloat about it.
Not an attractive quality."Don't think many of us are gloating about her departure. More in a state of shock as to why such a regular and prolific forum contributor should very suddenly decide to go UNLOS. | |||
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" Get on a Bus and try to make up with Sara. We're missing him.
Errr? .. Sara?? Sara who?? 🤔.....
Apparently Ms Jevo has left the site. Quite a shock since she was a prolific poster. Think we will all miss her whether we agreed with her or not.
Hopefully soon to return a Bel[la] Grade or Za[ra] Greb.
The prolific Sara jevo seems to have had a meltdown and ditched the site in a tantrum! Don't worry, though - he'll be back, masquerading under a new username, but his distinctive style will give him away as soon as he starts showing his true colours again! lol 😁
Floating about driving a person from the site???
If it's a right wing echo chamber your after you've already got Twitter
I don’t think anyone drove then from the site, they were being unpleasant to people and took the huff when called out. Not something that would elicit too much sympathy from people with critical thinking faculties.
It’s fine to bleater shite and antagonise people, but to think you can do so with impunity, and then pick your ball up and go home when people challenge your antagonistic behaviour is at best juvenile.
From my interpretation people were accusing them of making stuff up and worse was the accusations of exploitation.
They had a right to be peeved, personally I didn't see any unpleasant posts from Sara plenty of vile stuff towards them.
Apart from trying to hyjack a totally unrelated thread with carry over from a previous petty argument, and then taking the huff when challenged with staying on topic.
If a person is so hooked on forum conversations that they spend all day there and cannot let them drop when the thread goes away, it is probably for everyone’s benefit, theirs most of all that they spend time not online.
It's not completely unrelated though.
The post is about the unpleasantness between LGBT people.
They were asking OP to explain their reasons for being so unpleasant "Yea but that’s not what happened though was it? They took an argument from another thread to derail a new one and was called out for it. Then took a huff and took their ball home. | |||
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" Get on a Bus and try to make up with Sara. We're missing him.
Errr? .. Sara?? Sara who?? 🤔.....
Apparently Ms Jevo has left the site. Quite a shock since she was a prolific poster. Think we will all miss her whether we agreed with her or not.
Hopefully soon to return a Bel[la] Grade or Za[ra] Greb.
The prolific Sara jevo seems to have had a meltdown and ditched the site in a tantrum! Don't worry, though - he'll be back, masquerading under a new username, but his distinctive style will give him away as soon as he starts showing his true colours again! lol 😁
Floating about driving a person from the site???
If it's a right wing echo chamber your after you've already got Twitter
I don’t think anyone drove then from the site, they were being unpleasant to people and took the huff when called out. Not something that would elicit too much sympathy from people with critical thinking faculties.
It’s fine to bleater shite and antagonise people, but to think you can do so with impunity, and then pick your ball up and go home when people challenge your antagonistic behaviour is at best juvenile.
From my interpretation people were accusing them of making stuff up and worse was the accusations of exploitation.
They had a right to be peeved, personally I didn't see any unpleasant posts from Sara plenty of vile stuff towards them.
Apart from trying to hyjack a totally unrelated thread with carry over from a previous petty argument, and then taking the huff when challenged with staying on topic.
If a person is so hooked on forum conversations that they spend all day there and cannot let them drop when the thread goes away, it is probably for everyone’s benefit, theirs most of all that they spend time not online.
It's not completely unrelated though.
The post is about the unpleasantness between LGBT people.
They were asking OP to explain their reasons for being so unpleasant
Yea but that’s not what happened though was it?
They took an argument from another thread to derail a new one and was called out for it.
Then took a huff and took their ball home. "Not how I interpreted it | |||
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" They were asking OP to explain their reasons for being so unpleasant Yea but that’s not what happened though was it? They took an argument from another thread to derail a new one and was called out for it. Then took a huff and took their ball home. " Re-reading the posts written on this thread yesterday up until Ms SJ's departure and beyond; I failed to see what her point was about. She was clearly attacking the OP regarding something he may have said on another thread. However with no actual reference to that thread I, and no doubt others, are none the wiser what it was all about. I know threads often go off kilter but not that early in the posting. This is an independent thread in which the OP made a valid point, and to which most contributors have given their honest and valid opinions. For a member to take umbrage and delete their profile as a result, seems rather extreme and totally unnecessary. | |||
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" When sitting and texting people change personality. Its like when calm happy people get into a car and become demons of impatience and rage. " Well Mountain, you and I have often clashed in the past [non-aggressively of course] but I certainly cannot argue with this wise statement of yours. | |||
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" They were asking OP to explain their reasons for being so unpleasant Yea but that’s not what happened though was it? They took an argument from another thread to derail a new one and was called out for it. Then took a huff and took their ball home. Re-reading the posts written on this thread yesterday up until Ms SJ's departure and beyond; I failed to see what her point was about. She was clearly attacking the OP regarding something he may have said on another thread. However with no actual reference to that thread I, and no doubt others, are none the wiser what it was all about. I know threads often go off kilter but not that early in the posting. This is an independent thread in which the OP made a valid point, and to which most contributors have given their honest and valid opinions. For a member to take umbrage and delete their profile as a result, seems rather extreme and totally unnecessary." Refugees; have you been ever been fucked by one.... Or something close to that. OP and another guy really go to town on SJ. Don't blame them at all. Being accused of extortion is pretty vile stuff. | |||
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" They were asking OP to explain their reasons for being so unpleasant Yea but that’s not what happened though was it? They took an argument from another thread to derail a new one and was called out for it. Then took a huff and took their ball home. Re-reading the posts written on this thread yesterday up until Ms SJ's departure and beyond; I failed to see what her point was about. She was clearly attacking the OP regarding something he may have said on another thread. However with no actual reference to that thread I, and no doubt others, are none the wiser what it was all about. I know threads often go off kilter but not that early in the posting. This is an independent thread in which the OP made a valid point, and to which most contributors have given their honest and valid opinions. For a member to take umbrage and delete their profile as a result, seems rather extreme and totally unnecessary. Refugees; have you been ever been fucked by one.... Or something close to that. OP and another guy really go to town on SJ. Don't blame them at all. Being accused of extortion is pretty vile stuff." Lol I mean SJ I don't blame him | |||
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" Get on a Bus and try to make up with Sara. We're missing him.
Errr? .. Sara?? Sara who?? 🤔.....
Apparently Ms Jevo has left the site. Quite a shock since she was a prolific poster. Think we will all miss her whether we agreed with her or not.
Hopefully soon to return a Bel[la] Grade or Za[ra] Greb.
The prolific Sara jevo seems to have had a meltdown and ditched the site in a tantrum! Don't worry, though - he'll be back, masquerading under a new username, but his distinctive style will give him away as soon as he starts showing his true colours again! lol 😁
Floating about driving a person from the site???
If it's a right wing echo chamber your after you've already got Twitter
I don’t think anyone drove then from the site, they were being unpleasant to people and took the huff when called out. Not something that would elicit too much sympathy from people with critical thinking faculties.
It’s fine to bleater shite and antagonise people, but to think you can do so with impunity, and then pick your ball up and go home when people challenge your antagonistic behaviour is at best juvenile.
From my interpretation people were accusing them of making stuff up and worse was the accusations of exploitation.
They had a right to be peeved, personally I didn't see any unpleasant posts from Sara plenty of vile stuff towards them.
Apart from trying to hyjack a totally unrelated thread with carry over from a previous petty argument, and then taking the huff when challenged with staying on topic.
If a person is so hooked on forum conversations that they spend all day there and cannot let them drop when the thread goes away, it is probably for everyone’s benefit, theirs most of all that they spend time not online.
It's not completely unrelated though.
The post is about the unpleasantness between LGBT people.
They were asking OP to explain their reasons for being so unpleasant
Yea but that’s not what happened though was it?
They took an argument from another thread to derail a new one and was called out for it.
Then took a huff and took their ball home.
Not how I interpreted it "With the single thread in question only, how did you interpret it? | |||
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" Get on a Bus and try to make up with Sara. We're missing him.
Errr? .. Sara?? Sara who?? 🤔.....
Apparently Ms Jevo has left the site. Quite a shock since she was a prolific poster. Think we will all miss her whether we agreed with her or not.
Hopefully soon to return a Bel[la] Grade or Za[ra] Greb.
The prolific Sara jevo seems to have had a meltdown and ditched the site in a tantrum! Don't worry, though - he'll be back, masquerading under a new username, but his distinctive style will give him away as soon as he starts showing his true colours again! lol 😁
Floating about driving a person from the site???
If it's a right wing echo chamber your after you've already got Twitter
I don’t think anyone drove then from the site, they were being unpleasant to people and took the huff when called out. Not something that would elicit too much sympathy from people with critical thinking faculties.
It’s fine to bleater shite and antagonise people, but to think you can do so with impunity, and then pick your ball up and go home when people challenge your antagonistic behaviour is at best juvenile.
From my interpretation people were accusing them of making stuff up and worse was the accusations of exploitation.
They had a right to be peeved, personally I didn't see any unpleasant posts from Sara plenty of vile stuff towards them.
Apart from trying to hyjack a totally unrelated thread with carry over from a previous petty argument, and then taking the huff when challenged with staying on topic.
If a person is so hooked on forum conversations that they spend all day there and cannot let them drop when the thread goes away, it is probably for everyone’s benefit, theirs most of all that they spend time not online.
It's not completely unrelated though.
The post is about the unpleasantness between LGBT people.
They were asking OP to explain their reasons for being so unpleasant
Yea but that’s not what happened though was it?
They took an argument from another thread to derail a new one and was called out for it.
Then took a huff and took their ball home.
Not how I interpreted it
With the single thread in question only, how did you interpret it?"I knew the context SJ was saying it, so I knew where he was coming from and thought they had a right to challenge someone who was being particularly vile to them. Especially when they started a thread so pompous that obviously had roots in that discussion. | |||
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" Get on a Bus and try to make up with Sara. We're missing him.
Errr? .. Sara?? Sara who?? 🤔.....
Apparently Ms Jevo has left the site. Quite a shock since she was a prolific poster. Think we will all miss her whether we agreed with her or not.
Hopefully soon to return a Bel[la] Grade or Za[ra] Greb.
The prolific Sara jevo seems to have had a meltdown and ditched the site in a tantrum! Don't worry, though - he'll be back, masquerading under a new username, but his distinctive style will give him away as soon as he starts showing his true colours again! lol 😁
Floating about driving a person from the site???
If it's a right wing echo chamber your after you've already got Twitter
I don’t think anyone drove then from the site, they were being unpleasant to people and took the huff when called out. Not something that would elicit too much sympathy from people with critical thinking faculties.
It’s fine to bleater shite and antagonise people, but to think you can do so with impunity, and then pick your ball up and go home when people challenge your antagonistic behaviour is at best juvenile.
From my interpretation people were accusing them of making stuff up and worse was the accusations of exploitation.
They had a right to be peeved, personally I didn't see any unpleasant posts from Sara plenty of vile stuff towards them.
Apart from trying to hyjack a totally unrelated thread with carry over from a previous petty argument, and then taking the huff when challenged with staying on topic.
If a person is so hooked on forum conversations that they spend all day there and cannot let them drop when the thread goes away, it is probably for everyone’s benefit, theirs most of all that they spend time not online.
It's not completely unrelated though.
The post is about the unpleasantness between LGBT people.
They were asking OP to explain their reasons for being so unpleasant
Yea but that’s not what happened though was it?
They took an argument from another thread to derail a new one and was called out for it.
Then took a huff and took their ball home.
Not how I interpreted it
With the single thread in question only, how did you interpret it?
I knew the context SJ was saying it, so I knew where he was coming from and thought they had a right to challenge someone who was being particularly vile to them.
Especially when they started a thread so pompous that obviously had roots in that discussion."Is it not a good idea to encourage feuds to not air their dirty washing in public? | |||
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" Get on a Bus and try to make up with Sara. We're missing him.
Errr? .. Sara?? Sara who?? 🤔.....
Apparently Ms Jevo has left the site. Quite a shock since she was a prolific poster. Think we will all miss her whether we agreed with her or not.
Hopefully soon to return a Bel[la] Grade or Za[ra] Greb.
The prolific Sara jevo seems to have had a meltdown and ditched the site in a tantrum! Don't worry, though - he'll be back, masquerading under a new username, but his distinctive style will give him away as soon as he starts showing his true colours again! lol 😁
Floating about driving a person from the site???
If it's a right wing echo chamber your after you've already got Twitter
I don’t think anyone drove then from the site, they were being unpleasant to people and took the huff when called out. Not something that would elicit too much sympathy from people with critical thinking faculties.
It’s fine to bleater shite and antagonise people, but to think you can do so with impunity, and then pick your ball up and go home when people challenge your antagonistic behaviour is at best juvenile.
From my interpretation people were accusing them of making stuff up and worse was the accusations of exploitation.
They had a right to be peeved, personally I didn't see any unpleasant posts from Sara plenty of vile stuff towards them.
Apart from trying to hyjack a totally unrelated thread with carry over from a previous petty argument, and then taking the huff when challenged with staying on topic.
If a person is so hooked on forum conversations that they spend all day there and cannot let them drop when the thread goes away, it is probably for everyone’s benefit, theirs most of all that they spend time not online.
It's not completely unrelated though.
The post is about the unpleasantness between LGBT people.
They were asking OP to explain their reasons for being so unpleasant
Yea but that’s not what happened though was it?
They took an argument from another thread to derail a new one and was called out for it.
Then took a huff and took their ball home.
Not how I interpreted it
With the single thread in question only, how did you interpret it?
I knew the context SJ was saying it, so I knew where he was coming from and thought they had a right to challenge someone who was being particularly vile to them.
Especially when they started a thread so pompous that obviously had roots in that discussion.
Is it not a good idea to encourage feuds to not air their dirty washing in public? "It's not up to me to tell people what they should or shouldn't do. Everyone will act and react, innate to that individual. If someone is particularly pungent to you I believe you have the right to challenge them. | |||
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" They were asking OP to explain their reasons for being so unpleasant Yea but that’s not what happened though was it? They took an argument from another thread to derail a new one and was called out for it. Then took a huff and took their ball home. Re-reading the posts written on this thread yesterday up until Ms SJ's departure and beyond; I failed to see what her point was about. She was clearly attacking the OP regarding something he may have said on another thread. However with no actual reference to that thread I, and no doubt others, are none the wiser what it was all about. I know threads often go off kilter but not that early in the posting. This is an independent thread in which the OP made a valid point, and to which most contributors have given their honest and valid opinions. For a member to take umbrage and delete their profile as a result, seems rather extreme and totally unnecessary. Refugees; have you been ever been fucked by one.... Or something close to that. OP and another guy really go to town on SJ. Don't blame them at all. Being accused of extortion is pretty vile stuff." Your summary is pretty much correct, although the allegation was exploitation as opposed extortion. You're confusing the matter by using 'they' though, most people taking that as a reference to two or more people although you also seem to use it, as is the common trend, when referring to someone whose gender identity you're not sure of. | |||
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" They were asking OP to explain their reasons for being so unpleasant Yea but that’s not what happened though was it? They took an argument from another thread to derail a new one and was called out for it. Then took a huff and took their ball home. Re-reading the posts written on this thread yesterday up until Ms SJ's departure and beyond; I failed to see what her point was about. She was clearly attacking the OP regarding something he may have said on another thread. However with no actual reference to that thread I, and no doubt others, are none the wiser what it was all about. I know threads often go off kilter but not that early in the posting. This is an independent thread in which the OP made a valid point, and to which most contributors have given their honest and valid opinions. For a member to take umbrage and delete their profile as a result, seems rather extreme and totally unnecessary. Refugees; have you been ever been fucked by one.... Or something close to that. OP and another guy really go to town on SJ. Don't blame them at all. Being accused of extortion is pretty vile stuff. Your summary is pretty much correct, although the allegation was exploitation as opposed extortion. You're confusing the matter by using 'they' though, most people taking that as a reference to two or more people although you also seem to use it, as is the common trend, when referring to someone whose gender identity you're not sure of." Thanks for the correction | |||
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I welcome every sexual minority to join the LGBTQ+ fight. Add more letters, please, there's still room in my heart for all of you.
When it was just the G community, the straight acting homos said they had nothing to do with the camp homos. Fuck that!
When the L joined the G, the gays said the L didn't belong here. Fuck that!
And on it goes. Fuck that!
Fuck all the haters and anyone who tries to draw lines between our groups.
We are multiple communities, identities, all supporting each other. All experiencing similar threats, all having similar experiences. We're all different but we all need each other.
It's our turn to support everyone after us who is victimised.
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I welcome every sexual minority to join the LGBTQ+ fight. Add more letters, please, there's still room in my heart for all of you.
When it was just the G community, the straight acting homos said they had nothing to do with the camp homos. Fuck that!
When the L joined the G, the gays said the L didn't belong here. Fuck that!
And on it goes. Fuck that!
Fuck all the haters and anyone who tries to draw lines between our groups.
We are multiple communities, identities, all supporting each other. All experiencing similar threats, all having similar experiences. We're all different but we all need each other.
It's our turn to support everyone after us who is victimised.
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" They were asking OP to explain their reasons for being so unpleasant Yea but that’s not what happened though was it? They took an argument from another thread to derail a new one and was called out for it. Then took a huff and took their ball home. Re-reading the posts written on this thread yesterday up until Ms SJ's departure and beyond; I failed to see what her point was about. She was clearly attacking the OP regarding something he may have said on another thread. However with no actual reference to that thread I, and no doubt others, are none the wiser what it was all about. I know threads often go off kilter but not that early in the posting. This is an independent thread in which the OP made a valid point, and to which most contributors have given their honest and valid opinions. For a member to take umbrage and delete their profile as a result, seems rather extreme and totally unnecessary. Refugees; have you been ever been fucked by one.... Or something close to that. OP and another guy really go to town on SJ. Don't blame them at all. Being accused of extortion is pretty vile stuff. Your summary is pretty much correct, although the allegation was exploitation as opposed extortion. You're confusing the matter by using 'they' though, most people taking that as a reference to two or more people although you also seem to use it, as is the common trend, when referring to someone whose gender identity you're not sure of." They works fine to discuss singular people too. The tense of the sentence is singular which carries through to the pronoun. | |||
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" They were asking OP to explain their reasons for being so unpleasant Yea but that’s not what happened though was it? They took an argument from another thread to derail a new one and was called out for it. Then took a huff and took their ball home. Re-reading the posts written on this thread yesterday up until Ms SJ's departure and beyond; I failed to see what her point was about. She was clearly attacking the OP regarding something he may have said on another thread. However with no actual reference to that thread I, and no doubt others, are none the wiser what it was all about. I know threads often go off kilter but not that early in the posting. This is an independent thread in which the OP made a valid point, and to which most contributors have given their honest and valid opinions. For a member to take umbrage and delete their profile as a result, seems rather extreme and totally unnecessary. Refugees; have you been ever been fucked by one.... Or something close to that. OP and another guy really go to town on SJ. Don't blame them at all. Being accused of extortion is pretty vile stuff. Your summary is pretty much correct, although the allegation was exploitation as opposed extortion. You're confusing the matter by using 'they' though, most people taking that as a reference to two or more people although you also seem to use it, as is the common trend, when referring to someone whose gender identity you're not sure of. They works fine to discuss singular people too. The tense of the sentence is singular which carries through to the pronoun. " It also depends upon consistency and whereabouts in a sentence it is used. If you read back, in this particular instance it became a little confused. | |||
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" They were asking OP to explain their reasons for being so unpleasant Yea but that’s not what happened though was it? They took an argument from another thread to derail a new one and was called out for it. Then took a huff and took their ball home. Re-reading the posts written on this thread yesterday up until Ms SJ's departure and beyond; I failed to see what her point was about. She was clearly attacking the OP regarding something he may have said on another thread. However with no actual reference to that thread I, and no doubt others, are none the wiser what it was all about. I know threads often go off kilter but not that early in the posting. This is an independent thread in which the OP made a valid point, and to which most contributors have given their honest and valid opinions. For a member to take umbrage and delete their profile as a result, seems rather extreme and totally unnecessary. Refugees; have you been ever been fucked by one.... Or something close to that. OP and another guy really go to town on SJ. Don't blame them at all. Being accused of extortion is pretty vile stuff. Your summary is pretty much correct, although the allegation was exploitation as opposed extortion. You're confusing the matter by using 'they' though, most people taking that as a reference to two or more people although you also seem to use it, as is the common trend, when referring to someone whose gender identity you're not sure of. They works fine to discuss singular people too. The tense of the sentence is singular which carries through to the pronoun. It also depends upon consistency and whereabouts in a sentence it is used. If you read back, in this particular instance it became a little confused." Fair point. | |||
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 Despite the 'shortage' of crossdressers in this thread, there seems to be no shortage of skirts flying around in hot air 😂 … and pigtails getting in a twist 😏 | |||
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"Re: Ms SJ's departure without endless, pointless quotes. The reason I was completely in the dark was because I got fed-up with @i fucked an Immigrant' [or whatever it was called]halfway through because it was so trivial and banal. Must say that I thought Ms SJ was being a bit naughty and controversial starting that thread." Victim blaming for the creation of the thread not the abuse SJ received. | |||
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"Re: Ms SJ's departure without endless, pointless quotes. The reason I was completely in the dark was because I got fed-up with @i fucked an Immigrant' [or whatever it was called]halfway through because it was so trivial and banal. Must say that I thought Ms SJ was being a bit naughty and controversial starting that thread. Victim blaming for the creation of the thread not the abuse SJ received." Now why am I not surprised you would turn it round to suit your own agenda. Like it or not that thread had nothing to do with this one. | |||
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"We frequently see examples here within the Forum as well with the wider GLBT+ community of various degrees of judgemental, vicious, shallow, vitriolic, sarcastic and rude attitude towards others. I'd be lying if I said I've never contributed to this dynamic myself, and I'm curious to understand why it happens. Is it likely due to insecurity, competition, societal pressures, keyboard warfare or something more complex? I am genuinely interested in exploring this topic and hearing your thoughts – no agenda here, just a desire to understand." This first paragraph in the first post from the OP would suggest otherwise. I can completely see why SJ said what they said. As always you choose to see what you want rather than the greater context. | |||
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"For starters it is not a community of shared values and interests. Gays and lesbians came together to fight for decriminalisation etc... that was what they had in common... But gay men and lesbians have little in common beyond that which is entirely understandable. The Trans have a different political agenda- which is baffling illogical. For many gay jen, especially Boomers- they are relatively conservative and have no truck with LGBTQI 'ideology'...I fall into that category- but I couldn't be arsed getting into online debates- though I object to the dominance of CDs Trans on a gay hook up site." You can object as much as you like, I pay my money, the site owners allow me to join as trans. Don't read what cd,tv's post on here, simple | |||
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"Re: Ms SJ's departure without endless, pointless quotes. The reason I was completely in the dark was because I got fed-up with @i fucked an Immigrant' [or whatever it was called]halfway through because it was so trivial and banal. Must say that I thought Ms SJ was being a bit naughty and controversial starting that thread. Victim blaming for the creation of the thread not the abuse SJ received. Now why am I not surprised you would turn it round to suit your own agenda. Like it or not that thread had nothing to do with this one." Oh it did, there was obvious provocation. It's obviously gone way over your head. | |||
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"Re: Ms SJ's departure without endless, pointless quotes. The reason I was completely in the dark was because I got fed-up with @i fucked an Immigrant' [or whatever it was called]halfway through because it was so trivial and banal. Must say that I thought Ms SJ was being a bit naughty and controversial starting that thread. Victim blaming for the creation of the thread not the abuse SJ received. Now why am I not surprised you would turn it round to suit your own agenda. Like it or not that thread had nothing to do with this one. Oh it did, there was obvious provocation. It's obviously gone way over your head." My point is you would have needed to have read the other thread in its entirety, and the early posters of this thread would have needed to have mentioned it. We don't all read every thread on here or scrutinise every post as if we are lawyers or university professors. Some threads can get very boring especially with a lot of 'handbag swinging' and endless quoting. | |||
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"Sorry seems to be the hardest word..... "There was an apology posted but it went away rather quickly. | |||
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"Sorry seems to be the hardest word.....
There was an apology posted but it went away rather quickly."It was an apology written by Jeremy Corbyn. I'm sorry if....more of an act of white washing than an actual apology. | |||
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