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By *ookingaround OP   Man
3 days ago

Bristol

“We basically have two countries who have been fighting so long and so hard, they don’t know what the fuck they are doing”

It has taken him many years, but Trump has finally said something sensible and wise!

What a world

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By *londebiguyMan
3 days ago

near Southport

I'm pretty sure that would have been written for him.

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By *weet LisaTV/TS
3 days ago

Crawley


"“We basically have two countries who have been fighting so long and so hard, they don’t know what the fuck they are doing”

It has taken him many years, but Trump has finally said something sensible and wise!

What a world "

Everything we have seen up to this point has been extensively documented in U.S. policy papers going back 20 years.

Trump is attempting to lay another trap.

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By *uvolderMan
3 days ago

chester


"“We basically have two countries who have been fighting so long and so hard, they don’t know what the fuck they are doing”

It has taken him many years, but Trump has finally said something sensible and wise!

What a world

Everything we have seen up to this point has been extensively documented in U.S. policy papers going back 20 years.

Trump is attempting to lay another trap."

As much as i cant stand him and his followers and obnoxious little twats like jd vance i dont think he´s trying to set any traps as he´ll lose a lot of core support with any war...but he changes his mind from moment to moment so who really knows.

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By *igDickEnergyMan
3 days ago

cardiff

Stopped clock and all that

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By *ookingaround OP   Man
3 days ago

Bristol


"Stopped clock and all that"

lol a good point

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By *instrideMan
2 days ago

Woodbridge

Frankly, I couldn’t agree more with what he said - there are two countries in between Israel and Iran so they shouldn’t have anything to do with eachother anyway.

At the very least they should start looking at the positive attributes of each other and find some common ground through that.

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By *airFetishMan
2 days ago

Maldon

America has been wrecking the Middle East for decades.

Trump said of his ‘ceasefire’: “I think the ceasefire is unlimited. It’s going to go forever”. Asked whether the war was completely over Trump replied “Yes. I don’t believe that they will ever be shooting at each other again.”

Apart from an ‘unlimited ceasefire’ making no sense in English the whole thing collapsed (if it even started) within hours! Forever? Not so much.

Trump is an idiotic, vengeful, ego-obsessed sociopath. He wants his head on Mount Rushmore. He wants the Nobel Peace prize. He wants to be Pope. He wants his subjects to worship and hang on his every lie.

He’s absolutely crazed. He has zero negotiating skills of any kind and negotiation is what’s needed in the Middle East. Don’t hold your breath for one second. And of course Israel is an absolutely lawless rogue state that will do what Netanyahu wants and will maybe listen to Trump a bit if it keeps the arms supplied.

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By *esliebTV/TS
2 days ago

Scunthorpe

I am not sure Iran Israel war.

But I see that food station in Gaza is the thugs of Netanyahu Israeli soldiers use them as shooting range, when the starving people of Gaza get food and armless

But Trump dare not go against Israel, because the Jews lobbying him

No one Israeli will be charged with Genocide

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By *ildwestheroMan
2 days ago

Llandrindod Wells


"I'm pretty sure that would have been written for him."

Don't think so. He sounded pretty angry and his language was hardly diplomatic.

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By *laireKTV/TS
2 days ago

Manchester

It's a shitshow.

It's been a shitshow in the past.

It will be in the future.

We are dealing with factions which hate each other.

If Iran had better weapons they would use them. No doubt.

They can't be trusted.

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By *weet LisaTV/TS
2 days ago

Crawley

Iran have never invaded or occupied another country, Israel and the U.S. are the belligerents and always have been.

Google this foreign policy document: Which Path To Persia.

Also ask yourself how hundreds of thousands of Jews live in large communities in Iran, happily and with prosperity.

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By *ookingaround OP   Man
2 days ago

Bristol


"Iran have never invaded or occupied another country, Israel and the U.S. are the belligerents and always have been.

Google this foreign policy document: Which Path To Persia.

Also ask yourself how hundreds of thousands of Jews live in large communities in Iran, happily and with prosperity.

"

Not for want of trying though.

And it depends how far back you go. Cyrus was pretty invadey.

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By *weet LisaTV/TS
2 days ago

Crawley

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By *weet LisaTV/TS
2 days ago

Crawley


"Iran have never invaded or occupied another country, Israel and the U.S. are the belligerents and always have been.

Google this foreign policy document: Which Path To Persia.

Also ask yourself how hundreds of thousands of Jews live in large communities in Iran, happily and with prosperity.

Not for want of trying though.

And it depends how far back you go. Cyrus was pretty invadey."

There are no documented instances of Iran conducting large-scale military invasions of other countries in recent history. (AI Google).

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By *ildwestheroMan
2 days ago

Llandrindod Wells


"Iran have never invaded or occupied another country, Israel and the U.S. are the belligerents and always have been.

Google this foreign policy document: Which Path To Persia.

Also ask yourself how hundreds of thousands of Jews live in large communities in Iran, happily and with prosperity.

"

Not strictly true. They may not have actually invaded other countries but they have supported terrorist groups in other countries with finance and arms. Gaza, Syria, Yemen etc. The Jewish population in Iran has drastically reduced since the Islamic revolution. Exact figures vary but it is thought up to 75% of the Jews have left Iran since 1979. The current Jewish population in Iran is thought to be around 25,000.

I note you seem to be something of an apologist for certain rogue regimes--Putin, the Ayatollahs etc--none of whom are exactly LGBT friendly either.

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By *weet LisaTV/TS
2 days ago

Crawley


"Iran have never invaded or occupied another country, Israel and the U.S. are the belligerents and always have been.

Google this foreign policy document: Which Path To Persia.

Also ask yourself how hundreds of thousands of Jews live in large communities in Iran, happily and with prosperity.

Not strictly true. They may not have actually invaded other countries but they have supported terrorist groups in other countries with finance and arms. Gaza, Syria, Yemen etc. The Jewish population in Iran has drastically reduced since the Islamic revolution. Exact figures vary but it is thought up to 75% of the Jews have left Iran since 1979. The current Jewish population in Iran is thought to be around 25,000.

I note you seem to be something of an apologist for certain rogue regimes--Putin, the Ayatollahs etc--none of whom are exactly LGBT friendly either."

Got my figures wrong, there's still many thousands though, living in prosperity.

Are you joking about terrorists in Syria? The ex deputy leader of ISIS and founder of Al Qaeda in Syria now heads the government there. You think they're Iran friendly?

The others aren't terrorists either. Unless you listen to the war machine for your information.

Without support from Iran those countries would fall to the many aggressive attacks by Israel or other belligerent nations, such as Libya and Syria already have. If Iran is collapsed Israel will take all of Palestine (what little of it is left).

Hezbollah, for example, only exist because of Israeli aggression.

Jaysh Al-Islam were throwing people accused of being homosexual off of tall buildings, Jaysh were part of Operation Timber Sycamore started by the CIA under Obama. I know who the actual terrorists are- the U.S. and Israel.

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By *weet LisaTV/TS
2 days ago

Crawley

The U.S. always gets a pass even though their aggression has killed millions.

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By *weet LisaTV/TS
2 days ago

Crawley

ISIS- formed in Iraq during the sectarian violence post invasion.

Al Qaeda in Syria- formed in Syria (by the man now in charge of the Syrian government) during Operation Timber Sycamore.

Al-Nusra- See above.

All those heads chopped off, and women stoned to death and a long list of massacres under the direct leadership of the man now in charge in Syria.

But the U.S. get a pass.

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By *immySplashMan
2 days ago

Coventry

I think the fact that the most powerful tw@t on the planet swore in front of the worlds cameras is diverting his actual tw@tness

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By *igDickEnergyMan
2 days ago

cardiff

He's loosing his mind, calling reputable news organisations as scum for printing the truth about what the American strike actually achieved.

Rather than his lie....

He's actually telling people not to believe their own eyes and ears.

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By *ohnisbackMan
2 days ago

Farnborough

Not the first time he has used the 'f' word to make a point.

He told the Saudis your not putting up the fucking price when at a meeting they wanted too. He also tapped the Crown prince on the arm in front of his security to makes his point.

And he also in a telephone call in his first time in office told th leader of the Taliban that if an American soldiers were harmed during his time on office that he would fucking wipe them off the face of he earth. He also sent them a picture showing that he knew where they were.

And no Americans were killed until biden took power.

Sometimes people need to be told directly. Trumps more than capable of doing that because he doesn't care what others think.

And I'm sure he will use the ultimate power to achieve his aims

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By *hilxxMan
2 days ago

lincoln


"“We basically have two countries who have been fighting so long and so hard, they don’t know what the fuck they are doing”

It has taken him many years, but Trump has finally said something sensible and wise!

What a world "

He also said India and Pakistan has been fighting for centuries . Since Pakistan didn't exist before 1947 it would be difficult

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By *tevejbMan
2 days ago

Leeds

Doesn't matter what Trump says. He inflamed the whole war by dropping bombs on Iran. He has no claim to be peace-loving or in any way sensible.

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By *igDickEnergyMan
2 days ago

cardiff


"Not the first time he has used the 'f' word to make a point.

He told the Saudis your not putting up the fucking price when at a meeting they wanted too. He also tapped the Crown prince on the arm in front of his security to makes his point.

And he also in a telephone call in his first time in office told th leader of the Taliban that if an American soldiers were harmed during his time on office that he would fucking wipe them off the face of he earth. He also sent them a picture showing that he knew where they were.

And no Americans were killed until biden took power.

Sometimes people need to be told directly. Trumps more than capable of doing that because he doesn't care what others think.

And I'm sure he will use the ultimate power to achieve his aims "

WWIII sounds exciting

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By *ildwestheroMan
2 days ago

Llandrindod Wells


"

Are you joking about terrorists in Syria? The ex deputy leader of ISIS and founder of Al Qaeda in Syria now heads the government there. You think they're Iran friendly?

The others aren't terrorists either. Unless you listen to the war machine for your information.

Without support from Iran those countries would fall to the many aggressive attacks by Israel or other belligerent nations, such as Libya and Syria already have. If Iran is collapsed Israel will take all of Palestine (what little of it is left).

Hezbollah, for example, only exist because of Israeli aggression.

Jaysh Al-Islam were throwing people accused of being homosexual off of tall buildings, Jaysh were part of Operation Timber Sycamore started by the CIA under Obama. I know who the actual terrorists are- the U.S. and Israel."

I don't think any Islamic group or government is particularly gay friendly. All the various groups involved in the long struggle for power in Syria were pretty much as bad as each other. Assad was a nasty piece of work and only held on to the reins of power thanks to Putin and the Ayatollahs. Certainly not siding with the current interim leader of that war-torn country.

I am against Israeli settlements on the West Bank. I do think it should be allowed to function as an independent or at least autonomous Palestine. Gaza is not the West Bank. I think Israel might have allowed them to function in peace were they not so aggressive.

I don't pretend to be an expert on the middle-east but I think I have more idea than you do.

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By *agedsubCoolMan
2 days ago

amesbury

Probably dumb luck

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By *ove2wankMan
2 days ago

Field of Dreams, Worcs


"Stopped clock and all that"

Ha, exactly!

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By *ountainMan
2 days ago

ipswich


"Not the first time he has used the 'f' word to make a point.

He told the Saudis your not putting up the fucking price when at a meeting they wanted too. He also tapped the Crown prince on the arm in front of his security to makes his point.

And he also in a telephone call in his first time in office told th leader of the Taliban that if an American soldiers were harmed during his time on office that he would fucking wipe them off the face of he earth. He also sent them a picture showing that he knew where they were.

And no Americans were killed until biden took power.

Sometimes people need to be told directly. Trumps more than capable of doing that because he doesn't care what others think.

And I'm sure he will use the ultimate power to achieve his aims

WWIII sounds exciting "

It wouldn't lat long, nuclear missiles fired...end of humans lofty place at the top of the food chain.

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By *weet LisaTV/TS
2 days ago

Crawley

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By *weet LisaTV/TS
2 days ago

Crawley


"

Are you joking about terrorists in Syria? The ex deputy leader of ISIS and founder of Al Qaeda in Syria now heads the government there. You think they're Iran friendly?

The others aren't terrorists either. Unless you listen to the war machine for your information.

Without support from Iran those countries would fall to the many aggressive attacks by Israel or other belligerent nations, such as Libya and Syria already have. If Iran is collapsed Israel will take all of Palestine (what little of it is left).

Hezbollah, for example, only exist because of Israeli aggression.

Jaysh Al-Islam were throwing people accused of being homosexual off of tall buildings, Jaysh were part of Operation Timber Sycamore started by the CIA under Obama. I know who the actual terrorists are- the U.S. and Israel.

I don't think any Islamic group or government is particularly gay friendly. All the various groups involved in the long struggle for power in Syria were pretty much as bad as each other. Assad was a nasty piece of work and only held on to the reins of power thanks to Putin and the Ayatollahs. Certainly not siding with the current interim leader of that war-torn country.

I am against Israeli settlements on the West Bank. I do think it should be allowed to function as an independent or at least autonomous Palestine. Gaza is not the West Bank. I think Israel might have allowed them to function in peace were they not so aggressive.

I don't pretend to be an expert on the middle-east but I think SNIPped [/silly lies]"

Oh dear, you apologise for the occupiers.

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By *im125Man
2 days ago

Perth


"

WWIII sounds exciting

It wouldn't lat long, nuclear missiles fired...end of humans lofty place at the top of the food chain."

No more McDonalds

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By *igDickEnergyMan
2 days ago

cardiff


"

WWIII sounds exciting

It wouldn't lat long, nuclear missiles fired...end of humans lofty place at the top of the food chain.

No more McDonalds "

Pretty sure those burgers would survive tbh

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By *arridMan
2 days ago

brighton


"

WWIII sounds exciting

It wouldn't lat long, nuclear missiles fired...end of humans lofty place at the top of the food chain.

No more McDonalds

Pretty sure those burgers would survive tbh "

It would be human burgers.

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By *evanianMan
2 days ago

Tegeingl, Gogledd Cymru


" WWIII sounds exciting "

"Exciting"?? War???

Dear Lord!! Surely you can't seriously believe that BigDickEnergy??? 🤔

I had an older and a now a much missed friend who served in the 8th Army in WWII, he was stuck in the desert for 4 years, fighting in pivotal battles like Tobruk and El Alamein, the after effects of which he suffered until the end of his days.

He'd say:- 'None of us were brave – we were literally scared shitless most of the time. The poor buggers who feigned bravery were either mad or dead, waiting to be buried in mass graves.'

His words still echo in my mind 27 years after his passing: 'War is sheer bloody madness, all caused by politicians and their insane addiction to power.'

Films gloss over the reality, but trust me, there's no excitement in war – only lots of bloody gore, total devastation, loss, and sheer heartache, but excitement....Never!!

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By *igDickEnergyMan
2 days ago

cardiff


" WWIII sounds exciting

"Exciting"?? War???

Dear Lord!! Surely you can't seriously believe that BigDickEnergy??? 🤔

I had an older and a now a much missed friend who served in the 8th Army in WWII, he was stuck in the desert for 4 years, fighting in pivotal battles like Tobruk and El Alamein, the after effects of which he suffered until the end of his days.

He'd say:- 'None of us were brave – we were literally scared shitless most of the time. The poor buggers who feigned bravery were either mad or dead, waiting to be buried in mass graves.'

His words still echo in my mind 27 years after his passing: 'War is sheer bloody madness, all caused by politicians and their insane addiction to power.'

Films gloss over the reality, but trust me, there's no excitement in war – only lots of bloody gore, total devastation, loss, and sheer heartache, but excitement....Never!!

"

I see, I'm your mark tonight.

You're using my quip of a line out of context.

Do your best!

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By *ichey6Man
2 days ago

aberdeen

😂

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By *arcusUK2Man
2 days ago

Winchester

I've been alive long enough to witness countless politicians promising to "sort" the Middle East, including that psychopathic lying cunt Blair. None of them had a chance in hell of solving a 2,000 year old religious problem in a few years. Expectations need to be set fairly low...

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By *evanianMan
1 day ago

Tegeingl, Gogledd Cymru


" WWIII sounds exciting

"Exciting"?? War???

Dear Lord!! Surely you can't seriously believe that BigDickEnergy??? 🤔

I had an older and a now a much missed friend who served in the 8th Army in WWII, he was stuck in the desert for 4 years, fighting in pivotal battles like Tobruk and El Alamein, the after effects of which he suffered until the end of his days.

He'd say:- 'None of us were brave – we were literally scared shitless most of the time. The poor buggers who feigned bravery were either mad or dead, waiting to be buried in mass graves.'

His words still echo in my mind 27 years after his passing: 'War is sheer bloody madness, all caused by politicians and their insane addiction to power.'

Films gloss over the reality, but trust me, there's no excitement in war – only lots of bloody gore, total devastation, loss, and sheer heartache, but excitement....Never!!

I see, I'm your mark tonight.

You're using my quip of a line out of context.

Do your best!

"

I apologise if I've misinterpreted your comment BigDickEnergy, no offence intended.

In reviewing the conversation, I'm having trouble seeing how it relates to the previous post, which might explain my surprise.

Having lived for almost three score years and ten, I've come to appreciate the brevity and true value of life and the importance of constructive discussion.

Online forums can sometimes fall short of facilitating nuanced conversations, unlike face-to-face dialogue, leading to misunderstandings like this one. Perhaps you would kindly clarify the context behind your alarming comment?

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By *hisMeMan
1 day ago

Forfar

He replied "WWIII sounds exciting" to the post ending in "And I'm sure he will use the ultimate power to achieve his aims"

The ultimate power, I assume anyway, to be nuclear missiles.

I understood his quip to be sarcastic.

I hope you're not deliberately trying to cause conflict.

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By *evanianMan
1 day ago

Tegeingl, Gogledd Cymru


"He replied "WWIII sounds exciting" to the post ending in "And I'm sure he will use the ultimate power to achieve his aims"

The ultimate power, I assume anyway, to be nuclear missiles.

I understood his quip to be sarcastic.

I hope you're not deliberately trying to cause conflict.

"

Thanks for your assistance Thisme, no, not at all! I'm genuinely seeking clarity and hoping for a constructive conversation.

My intention was to understand the context of BDE's apparently ambiguous comment.

I meant my query in good faith, and I hope your question too was asked with the same intention.

No conflict whatsoever intended, just a desire for respectful dialogue.

Perhaps to conclude, I can say this:- War to me is sheer bloody madness, all caused by politicians and their insane addiction to power, diplomacy is always far superior to warfare.

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By *igDickEnergyMan
1 day ago

cardiff


"He replied "WWIII sounds exciting" to the post ending in "And I'm sure he will use the ultimate power to achieve his aims"

The ultimate power, I assume anyway, to be nuclear missiles.

I understood his quip to be sarcastic.

I hope you're not deliberately trying to cause conflict.

Thanks for your assistance Thisme, no, not at all! I'm genuinely seeking clarity and hoping for a constructive conversation.

My intention was to understand the context of BDE's apparently ambiguous comment.

I meant my query in good faith, and I hope your question too was asked with the same intention.

No conflict whatsoever intended, just a desire for respectful dialogue.

Perhaps to conclude, I can say this:- War to me is sheer bloody madness, all caused by politicians and their insane addiction to power, diplomacy is always far superior to warfare. "

Ah yes the standard "Who moi???" Response once called out

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By *ildwestheroMan
1 day ago

Llandrindod Wells


"

I don't think any Islamic group or government is particularly gay friendly. All the various groups involved in the long struggle for power in Syria were pretty much as bad as each other. Assad was a nasty piece of work and only held on to the reins of power thanks to Putin and the Ayatollahs. Certainly not siding with the current interim leader of that war-torn country.

I am against Israeli settlements on the West Bank. I do think it should be allowed to function as an independent or at least autonomous Palestine. Gaza is not the West Bank. I think Israel might have allowed them to function in peace were they not so aggressive.

I don't pretend to be an expert on the middle-east but I think SNIPped [/silly lies]

Oh dear, you apologise for the occupiers.

"

Your distortion of the last sentence of mine which you quotes makes no sense.

I'm not apologising for anyone. However I seem to remember you have, in the past, repeatedly apologised for--even supported--Russia's illegal occupation of large swathes of Ukraine.

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By *weet LisaTV/TS
1 day ago

Crawley


"

I don't think any Islamic group or government is particularly gay friendly. All the various groups involved in the long struggle for power in Syria were pretty much as bad as each other. Assad was a nasty piece of work and only held on to the reins of power thanks to Putin and the Ayatollahs. Certainly not siding with the current interim leader of that war-torn country.

I am against Israeli settlements on the West Bank. I do think it should be allowed to function as an independent or at least autonomous Palestine. Gaza is not the West Bank. I think Israel might have allowed them to function in peace were they not so aggressive.

I don't pretend to be an expert on the middle-east but I think SNIPped [/silly lies]

Oh dear, you apologise for the occupiers.

Your distortion of the last sentence of mine which you quotes makes no sense.

I'm not apologising for anyone. However I seem to remember you have, in the past, repeatedly apologised for--even supported--Russia's illegal occupation of large swathes of Ukraine."

How awful for these poor bastards, not a government sponsored Neo Nazi militia in sight (RE Azov Battalion [who vigilante policed this city], Right Sector, C14 et al), and all those stunning new apartment blocks built for free and new restaurants just fucking awful.

https://youtu.be/OBAMrR_Ucbc

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By *ookingaround OP   Man
1 day ago

Bristol


"Iran have never invaded or occupied another country, Israel and the U.S. are the belligerents and always have been.

Google this foreign policy document: Which Path To Persia.

Also ask yourself how hundreds of thousands of Jews live in large communities in Iran, happily and with prosperity.

Not for want of trying though.

And it depends how far back you go. Cyrus was pretty invadey.

There are no documented instances of Iran conducting large-scale military invasions of other countries in recent history. (AI Google).

"

To be fair large scale invasions of other countries are pretty rare all in.

How many can you think of in the last 50 years?

I concur that Iran isn’t a huge invading nuisance, but their military aggression takes far subtler forms. Hezbollah, Hamas etc. are all instruments of Iran’s foreign policy.

They are no different to any other large influential country in that regard.

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By *weet LisaTV/TS
1 day ago

Crawley

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By *evanianMan
1 day ago

Tegeingl, Gogledd Cymru


"He replied "WWIII sounds exciting" to the post ending in "And I'm sure he will use the ultimate power to achieve his aims"

The ultimate power, I assume anyway, to be nuclear missiles.

I understood his quip to be sarcastic.

I hope you're not deliberately trying to cause conflict.

Thanks for your assistance Thisme, no, not at all! I'm genuinely seeking clarity and hoping for a constructive conversation.

My intention was to understand the context of BDE's apparently ambiguous comment.

I meant my query in good faith, and I hope your question too was asked with the same intention.

No conflict whatsoever intended, just a desire for respectful dialogue.

Perhaps to conclude, I can say this:- War to me is sheer bloody madness, all caused by politicians and their insane addiction to power, diplomacy is always far superior to warfare.

Ah yes the standard "Who moi???" Response once called out "

BigDickEnergy, yet another of your unsurprisingly typical flippant and ill-mannered responses to a bona fide reply.

I've offered a genuine apology for any misunderstanding earlier and clarified my position on war and diplomacy regarding your ambiguous and apparently sarcastic 'WWIII sounds exciting' remark.

Based on your previous posts throughout the forum, it's evident that your primary objective is to provoke and antagonise in a characteristic and notoriously recognisable manner.

I will not engage in any further pointless exchanges that detract from genuine discussion and healthy debate. Instead, I'll focus on constructive conversations that bring clarity and understanding.

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By *weet LisaTV/TS
1 day ago

Crawley


"Iran have never invaded or occupied another country, Israel and the U.S. are the belligerents and always have been.

Google this foreign policy document: Which Path To Persia.

Also ask yourself how hundreds of thousands of Jews live in large communities in Iran, happily and with prosperity.

Not for want of trying though.

And it depends how far back you go. Cyrus was pretty invadey.

There are no documented instances of Iran conducting large-scale military invasions of other countries in recent history. (AI Google).

To be fair large scale invasions of other countries are pretty rare all in.

How many can you think of in the last 50 years?

I concur that Iran isn’t a huge invading nuisance, but their military aggression takes far subtler forms. Hezbollah, Hamas etc. are all instruments of Iran’s foreign policy.

They are no different to any other large influential country in that regard."

The U.S. come straight to mind and they are directly involved here as well.

No, Hezbollah only exist, and were formed as a direct consequence of Israeli aggression and Hamas due to the illegal occupation by the Israelis.

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By *ildwestheroMan
1 day ago

Llandrindod Wells


"

How awful for these poor bastards, not a government sponsored Neo Nazi militia in sight (RE Azov Battalion [who vigilante policed this city], Right Sector, C14 et al), and all those stunning new apartment blocks built for free and new restaurants just fucking awful.

https://youtu.be/OBAMrR_Ucbc"

How could anyone answer that incoherent rubbish you have just spouted there

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By *ookingaround OP   Man
1 day ago

Bristol


"Iran have never invaded or occupied another country, Israel and the U.S. are the belligerents and always have been.

Google this foreign policy document: Which Path To Persia.

Also ask yourself how hundreds of thousands of Jews live in large communities in Iran, happily and with prosperity.

Not for want of trying though.

And it depends how far back you go. Cyrus was pretty invadey.

There are no documented instances of Iran conducting large-scale military invasions of other countries in recent history. (AI Google).

To be fair large scale invasions of other countries are pretty rare all in.

How many can you think of in the last 50 years?

I concur that Iran isn’t a huge invading nuisance, but their military aggression takes far subtler forms. Hezbollah, Hamas etc. are all instruments of Iran’s foreign policy.

They are no different to any other large influential country in that regard.

The U.S. come straight to mind and they are directly involved here as well.

No, Hezbollah only exist, and were formed as a direct consequence of Israeli aggression and Hamas due to the illegal occupation by the Israelis."

Yea, sorry no.

I see where you are going with this, but it’s a very filtered viewpoint.

These organisations are directly funded and overseen by Iranian interests.

Hamas is significantly funded by Israel as well, (through Qatar).

It’s very murky, but to say Iran is not an aggressor is to be wilfully naive.

They are very subtle.

Iran could have destroyed Israel, Egypt could have in the 70s and 80s, but they have no interest in doing so, it would be a disaster because totalitarian regimes need a bad guy, otherwise they have nothing to threaten their population with and galvanise them to toe the line.

In the UK we use Islam and immigration to stoke up fear and make people vote against their best interests and in Iran they use Israel, in Israel they use Iran and its vassals.

The same trick, different contexts.

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By *weet LisaTV/TS
1 day ago

Crawley


"

How awful for these poor bastards, not a government sponsored Neo Nazi militia in sight (RE Azov Battalion [who vigilante policed this city], Right Sector, C14 et al), and all those stunning new apartment blocks built for free and new restaurants just fucking awful.

https://youtu.be/OBAMrR_Ucbc

How could anyone answer that incoherent rubbish you have just spouted there "

You cant dig out the sarcasm from the facts? Or understand the video?

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By *ildwestheroMan
1 day ago

Llandrindod Wells


"

How awful for these poor bastards, not a government sponsored Neo Nazi militia in sight (RE Azov Battalion [who vigilante policed this city], Right Sector, C14 et al), and all those stunning new apartment blocks built for free and new restaurants just fucking awful.

https://youtu.be/OBAMrR_Ucbc

How could anyone answer that incoherent rubbish you have just spouted there

You cant dig out the sarcasm from the facts? Or understand the video?"

Your poorly written post made little sense. As for the video it is pure Putinesque propaganda. You are obviously easily taken in.

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By *ichey6Man
1 day ago

aberdeen


"He replied "WWIII sounds exciting" to the post ending in "And I'm sure he will use the ultimate power to achieve his aims"

The ultimate power, I assume anyway, to be nuclear missiles.

I understood his quip to be sarcastic.

I hope you're not deliberately trying to cause conflict.

Thanks for your assistance Thisme, no, not at all! I'm genuinely seeking clarity and hoping for a constructive conversation.

My intention was to understand the context of BDE's apparently ambiguous comment.

I meant my query in good faith, and I hope your question too was asked with the same intention.

No conflict whatsoever intended, just a desire for respectful dialogue.

Perhaps to conclude, I can say this:- War to me is sheer bloody madness, all caused by politicians and their insane addiction to power, diplomacy is always far superior to warfare.

Ah yes the standard "Who moi???" Response once called out

BigDickEnergy, yet another of your unsurprisingly typical flippant and ill-mannered responses to a bona fide reply.

I've offered a genuine apology for any misunderstanding earlier and clarified my position on war and diplomacy regarding your ambiguous and apparently sarcastic 'WWIII sounds exciting' remark.

Based on your previous posts throughout the forum, it's evident that your primary objective is to provoke and antagonise in a characteristic and notoriously recognisable manner.

I will not engage in any further pointless exchanges that detract from genuine discussion and healthy debate. Instead, I'll focus on constructive conversations that bring clarity and understanding.

"

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...

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

The notion that the poster engages in provocative antagonism strikes me as being very unfair. BDE argues passionately and doesn't pussy foot around. That's not remotely the same thing as goading.

The irony being the obvious glasshousery (refugees)

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By *evanianMan
1 day ago

Tegeingl, Gogledd Cymru


"

The notion that the poster engages in provocative antagonism strikes me as being very unfair. BDE argues passionately and doesn't pussy foot around. That's not remotely the same thing as goading.

The irony being the obvious glasshousery (refugees)

"

So says his fellow chorister croaking the same hypocritical tired old song and further promoting widespread disharmony! AMEN! 🥱

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By *igDickEnergyMan
1 day ago

cardiff


"

The notion that the poster engages in provocative antagonism strikes me as being very unfair. BDE argues passionately and doesn't pussy foot around. That's not remotely the same thing as goading.

The irony being the obvious glasshousery (refugees)

So says his fellow chorister croaking the same hypocritical tired old song and further promoting widespread disharmony! AMEN! 🥱

"

Someone doesn't like other people having opposing views and the ability to get our points across in an entertaining and succinct way.

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By *weet LisaTV/TS
1 day ago

Crawley


"

How awful for these poor bastards, not a government sponsored Neo Nazi militia in sight (RE Azov Battalion [who vigilante policed this city], Right Sector, C14 et al), and all those stunning new apartment blocks built for free and new restaurants just fucking awful.

https://youtu.be/OBAMrR_Ucbc

How could anyone answer that incoherent rubbish you have just spouted there

You cant dig out the sarcasm from the facts? Or understand the video?

Your poorly written post made little sense. As for the video it is pure Putinesque propaganda. You are obviously easily taken in."

Yeah I know, it's a brutal occupation, all the new roads and infrastructure, a massive new hospital, 14 new schools, a new shopping mall and a hypermarket, packed beaches and apologies for the cotton candy machines, we all know how oppressive cotton candy served on a packed beach is... Pure Putin propaganda of course, all an illusion...

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By *ookingaround OP   Man
1 day ago

Bristol


"

The notion that the poster engages in provocative antagonism strikes me as being very unfair. BDE argues passionately and doesn't pussy foot around. That's not remotely the same thing as goading.

The irony being the obvious glasshousery (refugees)

So says his fellow chorister croaking the same hypocritical tired old song and further promoting widespread disharmony! AMEN! 🥱

Someone doesn't like other people having opposing views and the ability to get our points across in an entertaining and succinct way."

It’s not that the views are opposing, it’s that they are connected nonsense.

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By *igDickEnergyMan
1 day ago

cardiff


"

The notion that the poster engages in provocative antagonism strikes me as being very unfair. BDE argues passionately and doesn't pussy foot around. That's not remotely the same thing as goading.

The irony being the obvious glasshousery (refugees)

So says his fellow chorister croaking the same hypocritical tired old song and further promoting widespread disharmony! AMEN! 🥱

Someone doesn't like other people having opposing views and the ability to get our points across in an entertaining and succinct way.

It’s not that the views are opposing, it’s that they are connected nonsense."

As apposed to your great insights and oracy?

I would hold my opinions are often opposed to Big Devs

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By *hirtyguyMan
1 day ago

Coleraine

Trump is a criminal and an incessant lier, he has never said anything sensible or wise in his life. The world should treat him with the contempt that he deserves and Starmer bowing and scrapping before that scoundrel is so embarrassing.

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By *aggonerMan
1 day ago

Malvern

Trump isn’t angry because they are still fighting. He’s angry because he exaggerated the ceasefire situation and they made him look foolish (again).

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By *ookingaround OP   Man
1 day ago

Bristol


"

The notion that the poster engages in provocative antagonism strikes me as being very unfair. BDE argues passionately and doesn't pussy foot around. That's not remotely the same thing as goading.

The irony being the obvious glasshousery (refugees)

So says his fellow chorister croaking the same hypocritical tired old song and further promoting widespread disharmony! AMEN! 🥱

Someone doesn't like other people having opposing views and the ability to get our points across in an entertaining and succinct way.

It’s not that the views are opposing, it’s that they are connected nonsense.

As apposed to your great insights and oracy?

I would hold my opinions are often opposed to Big Devs "

Exactly, opposed to my great insights and oracy. I am glad you have recognised this.

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By *ookingaround OP   Man
1 day ago

Bristol

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By *raggyjackMan
1 day ago

Dublin


"“Trump is attempting to lay another trap"."

There's more chance of Trump laying an egg than laying a trap. The man's a buffoon and it's becoming clearer with every passing day!

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By *ookingaround OP   Man
1 day ago

Bristol


"“Trump is attempting to lay another trap".

There's more chance of Trump laying an egg than laying a trap. The man's a buffoon and it's becoming clearer with every passing day! "

And more so his supposed allies are playing him like a squeaky orange fiddle.

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By *hirtyguyMan
1 day ago

Coleraine

[
"“Trump is attempting to lay another trap".

There's more chance of Trump laying an egg than laying a trap. The man's a buffoon and it's becoming clearer with every passing day!

And more so his supposed allies are playing him like a squeaky orange fiddle."

👍👍👍]

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By *anmannersMan
1 day ago

Notts

😴

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By *ildwestheroMan
1 day ago

Llandrindod Wells


"

Your poorly written post made little sense. As for the video it is pure Putinesque propaganda. You are obviously easily taken in.

Yeah I know, it's a brutal occupation, all the new roads and infrastructure, a massive new hospital, 14 new schools, a new shopping mall and a hypermarket, packed beaches and apologies for the cotton candy machines, we all know how oppressive cotton candy served on a packed beach is... Pure Putin propaganda of course, all an illusion...

"

As long as it makes you happy carry on living in your little fantasy world.

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By *ookingaround OP   Man
1 day ago

Bristol


"😴"

You ok?

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By *weet LisaTV/TS
1 day ago

Crawley


"

Your poorly written post made little sense. As for the video it is pure Putinesque propaganda. You are obviously easily taken in.

Yeah I know, it's a brutal occupation, all the new roads and infrastructure, a massive new hospital, 14 new schools, a new shopping mall and a hypermarket, packed beaches and apologies for the cotton candy machines, we all know how oppressive cotton candy served on a packed beach is... Pure Putin propaganda of course, all an illusion...

As long as it makes you happy carry on living in your little fantasy world."

It's not just Mariupol, it's Luhansk, have you seen it? And Donetsk, seen the city since the Ukrainian government where pushed back out of range of their attacks? Families no longer have to raise their children from bomb shelters.

You think these people prefer a government that shelled them indiscriminately because any other thought pisses on your entire fantasy. A fantasy spoon fed to you by the war machine media baboons.

When the corridor out of Kherson was opened everyone had a choice, safety somewhere in Russia or safety somewhere in Ukraine, over 60,000 people went to Russia, hardly any went the other way.

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By *ordonkyMan
1 day ago

Blackrock

Trump doesn’t know what the fuck he is doing


"“We basically have two countries who have been fighting so long and so hard, they don’t know what the fuck they are doing”

It has taken him many years, but Trump has finally said something sensible and wise!

What a world "

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By *igDickEnergyMan
24 hours ago

cardiff


"Trump doesn’t know what the fuck he is doing

“We basically have two countries who have been fighting so long and so hard, they don’t know what the fuck they are doing”

It has taken him many years, but Trump has finally said something sensible and wise!

What a world "

Everyday is a new episode.

What can I do to get attention today. That's it

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By *ookingaround OP   Man
23 hours ago

Bristol


"Trump doesn’t know what the fuck he is doing

“We basically have two countries who have been fighting so long and so hard, they don’t know what the fuck they are doing”

It has taken him many years, but Trump has finally said something sensible and wise!

What a world

Everyday is a new episode.

What can I do to get attention today. That's it"

That’s probably about as close to the truth as it can be.

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By *ildwestheroMan
10 hours ago

Llandrindod Wells


"

Your poorly written post made little sense. As for the video it is pure Putinesque propaganda. You are obviously easily taken in.

Yeah I know, it's a brutal occupation, all the new roads and infrastructure, a massive new hospital, 14 new schools, a new shopping mall and a hypermarket, packed beaches and apologies for the cotton candy machines, we all know how oppressive cotton candy served on a packed beach is... Pure Putin propaganda of course, all an illusion...

As long as it makes you happy carry on living in your little fantasy world.

It's not just Mariupol, it's Luhansk, have you seen it? And Donetsk, seen the city since the Ukrainian government where pushed back out of range of their attacks? Families no longer have to raise their children from bomb shelters.

You think these people prefer a government that shelled them indiscriminately because any other thought pisses on your entire fantasy. A fantasy spoon fed to you by the war machine media baboons.

When the corridor out of Kherson was opened everyone had a choice, safety somewhere in Russia or safety somewhere in Ukraine, over 60,000 people went to Russia, hardly any went the other way.

"

Obviously you spend a lot of your time touring Russian occupied parts of Ukraine and have first hand knowledge of such things

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By *ookingaround OP   Man
10 hours ago

Bristol


"

Your poorly written post made little sense. As for the video it is pure Putinesque propaganda. You are obviously easily taken in.

Yeah I know, it's a brutal occupation, all the new roads and infrastructure, a massive new hospital, 14 new schools, a new shopping mall and a hypermarket, packed beaches and apologies for the cotton candy machines, we all know how oppressive cotton candy served on a packed beach is... Pure Putin propaganda of course, all an illusion...

As long as it makes you happy carry on living in your little fantasy world.

It's not just Mariupol, it's Luhansk, have you seen it? And Donetsk, seen the city since the Ukrainian government where pushed back out of range of their attacks? Families no longer have to raise their children from bomb shelters.

You think these people prefer a government that shelled them indiscriminately because any other thought pisses on your entire fantasy. A fantasy spoon fed to you by the war machine media baboons.

When the corridor out of Kherson was opened everyone had a choice, safety somewhere in Russia or safety somewhere in Ukraine, over 60,000 people went to Russia, hardly any went the other way.

Obviously you spend a lot of your time touring Russian occupied parts of Ukraine and have first hand knowledge of such things "

Isn’t RT an accurate source?

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By *ichey6Man
9 hours ago

aberdeen


"

The notion that the poster engages in provocative antagonism strikes me as being very unfair. BDE argues passionately and doesn't pussy foot around. That's not remotely the same thing as goading.

The irony being the obvious glasshousery (refugees)

So says his fellow chorister croaking the same hypocritical tired old song and further promoting widespread disharmony! AMEN! 🥱

"

....

...

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Promoting what? Ah that's an all-time classic. I've responded to the hyperbole of an individual poster rather than a group of people...

Freedom of speech/having an opinion is not a desire to foment tumult.

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By *ichey6Man
9 hours ago

aberdeen


"

The notion that the poster engages in provocative antagonism strikes me as being very unfair. BDE argues passionately and doesn't pussy foot around. That's not remotely the same thing as goading.

The irony being the obvious glasshousery (refugees)

So says his fellow chorister croaking the same hypocritical tired old song and further promoting widespread disharmony! AMEN! 🥱

Someone doesn't like other people having opposing views and the ability to get our points across in an entertaining and succinct way."

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...

😆😂🥳

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By *weet LisaTV/TS
9 hours ago

Crawley


"

Your poorly written post made little sense. As for the video it is pure Putinesque propaganda. You are obviously easily taken in.

Yeah I know, it's a brutal occupation, all the new roads and infrastructure, a massive new hospital, 14 new schools, a new shopping mall and a hypermarket, packed beaches and apologies for the cotton candy machines, we all know how oppressive cotton candy served on a packed beach is... Pure Putin propaganda of course, all an illusion...

As long as it makes you happy carry on living in your little fantasy world.

It's not just Mariupol, it's Luhansk, have you seen it? And Donetsk, seen the city since the Ukrainian government where pushed back out of range of their attacks? Families no longer have to raise their children from bomb shelters.

You think these people prefer a government that shelled them indiscriminately because any other thought pisses on your entire fantasy. A fantasy spoon fed to you by the war machine media baboons.

When the corridor out of Kherson was opened everyone had a choice, safety somewhere in Russia or safety somewhere in Ukraine, over 60,000 people went to Russia, hardly any went the other way.

Obviously you spend a lot of your time touring Russian occupied parts of Ukraine and have first hand knowledge of such things "

The 'logic' you display is piss-poor.

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By *ildwestheroMan
7 hours ago

Llandrindod Wells


"

It's not just Mariupol, it's Luhansk, have you seen it? And Donetsk, seen the city since the Ukrainian government where pushed back out of range of their attacks? Families no longer have to raise their children from bomb shelters.

You think these people prefer a government that shelled them indiscriminately because any other thought pisses on your entire fantasy. A fantasy spoon fed to you by the war machine media baboons.

When the corridor out of Kherson was opened everyone had a choice, safety somewhere in Russia or safety somewhere in Ukraine, over 60,000 people went to Russia, hardly any went the other way.

Obviously you spend a lot of your time touring Russian occupied parts of Ukraine and have first hand knowledge of such things

The 'logic' you display is piss-poor."

Laughable

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By *ookingaround OP   Man
6 hours ago

Bristol


"

The notion that the poster engages in provocative antagonism strikes me as being very unfair. BDE argues passionately and doesn't pussy foot around. That's not remotely the same thing as goading.

The irony being the obvious glasshousery (refugees)

So says his fellow chorister croaking the same hypocritical tired old song and further promoting widespread disharmony! AMEN! 🥱

....

...

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Promoting what? Ah that's an all-time classic. I've responded to the hyperbole of an individual poster rather than a group of people...

Freedom of speech/having an opinion is not a desire to foment tumult.

"

@Devanian, leave this guy alone, he does a really important task going round the internet making sure that all of yesterdays squabbles are brought into today’s discussions and that every time someone says something he doesn’t like, they get told off.

He does all of this without even the faintest modicum of self awareness which is a testament to his absolute determination and dedication to this task.

We should celebrate these heroes. Without them the world would be such a peaceful and harmonious place.

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By *ames canMan
6 hours ago

monaghan


"“Trump is attempting to lay another trap".

There's more chance of Trump laying an egg than laying a trap. The man's a buffoon and it's becoming clearer with every passing day! "

...to quote the "great man " himself....he's not the sharpest bulb...hahaha

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By *astersteve906Man
4 hours ago

Near Lutterworth

Talking sense lol, you can't tell whether he's talking out of his head or his arse

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By *ookingaround OP   Man
3 hours ago

Bristol


"Talking sense lol, you can't tell whether he's talking out of his head or his arse "

They look and sound about the same.

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By *ichey6Man
2 hours ago

aberdeen


"

The notion that the poster engages in provocative antagonism strikes me as being very unfair. BDE argues passionately and doesn't pussy foot around. That's not remotely the same thing as goading.

The irony being the obvious glasshousery (refugees)

So says his fellow chorister croaking the same hypocritical tired old song and further promoting widespread disharmony! AMEN! 🥱

....

...

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Promoting what? Ah that's an all-time classic. I've responded to the hyperbole of an individual poster rather than a group of people...

Freedom of speech/having an opinion is not a desire to foment tumult.

@Devanian, leave this guy alone, he does a really important task going round the internet making sure that all of yesterdays squabbles are brought into today’s discussions and that every time someone says something he doesn’t like, they get told off.

He does all of this without even the faintest modicum of self awareness which is a testament to his absolute determination and dedication to this task.

We should celebrate these heroes. Without them the world would be such a peaceful and harmonious place."

...

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 The irony of you mentioning self-awareness is another classic. You love to criticise posters. Pot/kettle.

Yet again you are sneering at a forum user for daring to have an opinion. With an attempt at satire that is pitiful.

There isn't a time limit as to what can be discussed. The poster dishes it out when it pleases him (refugees) and goes into paragon of virtue mode in the most hypocritical of manners when someone dares to disagree.

What's the weather like with you?

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