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"Probably the same as us tax payers and maybe more. They get houses for free while British born people are on streets homeless. Why else do thousands cross over every week from fance." On average around 600 - 700 cross a week. Around 30,000 to 40,000 annually. They cross for all sorts of reasons mainly because we bombed their countries, they have family here and they speak English. They get £49.18 a week towards toiletries, food and clothes if the accomodation provided includes meals the weekly allowance is reduced to £8.86. 1000 people a day signing on for universal credit and making no effort to get back in to work that is truly unsustainable reform is needed!! We are an outlier in the western world where our workforce hasn't returned to pre-pandemic levels, reform is needed. Where I think they are on a sticky wicket is with PIP, that's an in work benefit for disabled people who do have a higher cost of living due to greater needs | |||
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"Probably the same as us tax payers and maybe more. They get houses for free while British born people are on streets homeless. Why else do thousands cross over every week from fance. On average around 600 - 700 cross a week. Around 30,000 to 40,000 annually. They cross for all sorts of reasons mainly because we bombed their countries, they have family here and they speak English. They get £49.18 a week towards toiletries, food and clothes if the accomodation provided includes meals the weekly allowance is reduced to £8.86. 1000 people a day signing on for universal credit and making no effort to get back in to work that is truly unsustainable reform is needed!! We are an outlier in the western world where our workforce hasn't returned to pre-pandemic levels, reform is needed. Where I think they are on a sticky wicket is with PIP, that's an in work benefit for disabled people who do have a higher cost of living due to greater needs " Whilst their case is heard Once given leave to remain They have to leave SERCO accommodation So local council has to place in priority need for housing They can claim universal credit and other services Those whom refused disappear into the black market Whilst lawyers run the clock down & costs up But the latest scam is to tell home office they are homosexual They can’t be refused once it’s claimed So lots of abuse of system sadly | |||
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"Probably the same as us tax payers and maybe more. They get houses for free while British born people are on streets homeless. Why else do thousands cross over every week from fance. On average around 600 - 700 cross a week. Around 30,000 to 40,000 annually. They cross for all sorts of reasons mainly because we bombed their countries, they have family here and they speak English. They get £49.18 a week towards toiletries, food and clothes if the accomodation provided includes meals the weekly allowance is reduced to £8.86. 1000 people a day signing on for universal credit and making no effort to get back in to work that is truly unsustainable reform is needed!! We are an outlier in the western world where our workforce hasn't returned to pre-pandemic levels, reform is needed. Where I think they are on a sticky wicket is with PIP, that's an in work benefit for disabled people who do have a higher cost of living due to greater needs Whilst their case is heard Once given leave to remain They have to leave SERCO accommodation So local council has to place in priority need for housing They can claim universal credit and other services Those whom refused disappear into the black market Whilst lawyers run the clock down & costs up But the latest scam is to tell home office they are homosexual They can’t be refused once it’s claimed So lots of abuse of system sadly " Most want to work and go into work once granted leave to remain. As for the rest it just reads like a bogey man scare story | |||
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"Probably the same as us tax payers and maybe more. They get houses for free while British born people are on streets homeless. Why else do thousands cross over every week from fance. On average around 600 - 700 cross a week. Around 30,000 to 40,000 annually. They cross for all sorts of reasons mainly because we bombed their countries, they have family here and they speak English. They get £49.18 a week towards toiletries, food and clothes if the accomodation provided includes meals the weekly allowance is reduced to £8.86. 1000 people a day signing on for universal credit and making no effort to get back in to work that is truly unsustainable reform is needed!! We are an outlier in the western world where our workforce hasn't returned to pre-pandemic levels, reform is needed. Where I think they are on a sticky wicket is with PIP, that's an in work benefit for disabled people who do have a higher cost of living due to greater needs Whilst their case is heard Once given leave to remain They have to leave SERCO accommodation So local council has to place in priority need for housing They can claim universal credit and other services Those whom refused disappear into the black market Whilst lawyers run the clock down & costs up But the latest scam is to tell home office they are homosexual They can’t be refused once it’s claimed So lots of abuse of system sadly " Definitely ‘some’ abuse of the system but I doubt there are any remotely reliable data supporting ‘lots’. The same way that anecdotally most asylum seekers housed near me appear to be family groups and not young single (so-called ‘fighting age’) males, not that you know it from the constant social media rage. | |||
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" … mainly because we bombed their countries… 🙄" The white supremacist world view. Take no responsibility for historical factors. Bomb brown people, dust yourself down and scream at the top of your voice with a megaphone on the white cliffs of Dover "Not welcome here" | |||
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"So starmer wants to push ahead with punishing the disabled and ignoring his MP's. Why not just stop giving handouts to immigrants and foreigners that is bound to save more. " I'm just listening to a guy in a wheelchair who currently receives pip but will not if these reforms go ahead. He says the system does need reform and could save money but these reforms go too far, they need to take longer to work out a different change. He also says that he runs some social media help pages and every single one of them gets taken over by people claiming that it would be enough money if it wasn't for immigrants. And that they are totally wrong! So well done. | |||
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"So starmer wants to push ahead with punishing the disabled and ignoring his MP's. Why not just stop giving handouts to immigrants and foreigners that is bound to save more. I'm just listening to a guy in a wheelchair who currently receives pip but will not if these reforms go ahead. He says the system does need reform and could save money but these reforms go too far, they need to take longer to work out a different change. He also says that he runs some social media help pages and every single one of them gets taken over by people claiming that it would be enough money if it wasn't for immigrants. And that they are totally wrong! So well done. " was this on LBC (James O'Brien) | |||
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"Number of issues relating to this Gordon Brown during his time as chancellor created tax credits Which meant tax payer subsidies poor wages More kids you had meant more money Then the latest trend of ADSD & SEND All generate more free money Some cases families getting mobility cars saying kids can’t walk to school Then those who are on drugs claiming DLA So some people have took the piss and abused the system You often find many disabled people want to work and extra money helps as on low wages Many pensioners never bothered to claim AA or pension credit as believed they can manage And the golden key to risking coming here in boats is the benefits and help compared to other European countries So some taking the piss means those whom need it will suffer again The policy is target everyone rather than the piss takers " One of the issues with the benefits system for disabled people who want to work is that you are limited to the number of hours you can work per week before you start to loose some of the benefits. For example if you can only get minimum wage job and work full time it probably won’t cover your rent but you end up losing housing benefit. Same with caregivers getting (i think) it is caters allowance earn £1 over the threshold and you loose the lot. If they looked at those issues and found better ways to avoid cliff edge situations then they could help people back into work and reduce SOME benefit payments at the same time. Also from what some friends on disability benefits told me, they need to have phone lines with real people to help resolve the screwups that DWP are making pushing people on to Universal Credit. Their Crap Intelligence chat bot is shit by all accounts. | |||
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"How much do immigrants and foreigners get in hand outs?" A fair bit, especially if you include the cost of temporary housing. Even more once they're placed in permanent housing. | |||
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"How much do immigrants and foreigners get in hand outs? A fair bit, especially if you include the cost of temporary housing. Even more once they're placed in permanent housing." Read above or Google it. It really isn't a lot. Permanent housing??? Do you mean once they've been granted leave to remain and their working and paying taxes the same as any other person living in a council house? | |||
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" … mainly because we bombed their countries… 🙄 The white supremacist world view. Take no responsibility for historical factors. Bomb brown people, dust yourself down and scream at the top of your voice with a megaphone on the white cliffs of Dover "Not welcome here"" That’s your response, is it? You make some dumb, unfounded, sweeping statement that all the people coming across the channel are from countries the UK has bombed (I must have missed our bombing raids on Albania or Eritrea or Vietnam). As soon as you receive any blowback, you start accusing people of being “white supremacist”. You’re an absolute pastiche. I can’t work out if you’re actually some sort of Reform linked right winger who masquerades as an insane progressive. Your contributions are that predictable and that ridiculous. | |||
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"How much do immigrants and foreigners get in hand outs? A fair bit, especially if you include the cost of temporary housing. Even more once they're placed in permanent housing. Read above or Google it. It really isn't a lot. Permanent housing??? Do you mean once they've been granted leave to remain and their working and paying taxes the same as any other person living in a council house?" Or not working, or having families with a large number of children that soak up benefits. When it comes to housing any many other matters though, we really need to look after our own a little more. A prime example of how housing is allocated can be determined by, and it's a very large elephant in the room, looking at the victims of Grenfell. The breakdown by nationality is very much typical of so many housing estates these days: The Grenfell Tower fire resulted in 72 fatalities, with a significant majority of the victims being from Black, Asian, and minority ethnic (BAME) backgrounds. Specifically, 85% of the residents who died were from BAME communities, according to a report cited by Inside Housing. Among the victims, there were people from the Middle East, North Africa, East and West Africa, Bangladesh, the Caribbean, the Philippines, and Colombia. Here's a more detailed breakdown: Middle East and North Africa: 32 victims. East Africa: 9 victims. West Africa: 5 victims. Bangladeshi heritage: 5 victims. Caribbean: 3 victims. Other: 1 Filipino, 1 Colombian, and 1 with unknown BAME heritage. White British or Irish: 7 victims. The Grenfell Tower Inquiry also noted that many of the residents were first-generation immigrants, with origins spanning various countries. | |||
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"So starmer wants to push ahead with punishing the disabled and ignoring his MP's. Why not just stop giving handouts to immigrants and foreigners that is bound to save more. I'm just listening to a guy in a wheelchair who currently receives pip but will not if these reforms go ahead. He says the system does need reform and could save money but these reforms go too far, they need to take longer to work out a different change. He also says that he runs some social media help pages and every single one of them gets taken over by people claiming that it would be enough money if it wasn't for immigrants. And that they are totally wrong! So well done. was this on LBC (James O'Brien)" BDE is our very own Pound Shop James O'Brien. | |||
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"Brace yourself. I am a full time wheelchair user - not ambulatory at all. I get PIP and I work. PIP has nothing to do with ability to work, but the level of disability. It is not means tested. I get no means tested benefits. My PIP helps pay for my carer and adapted vehicle, which in turns mean I can continue to work and live in my privately rented flat. Take away the PIP I lose the car, can't afford the carer, will not be able to work and then not afford the rent. I'd be homeless. Without the car, I will become housebound, unable to work and will be reliant on benefits for income. Take away the PIP the Local Authority will need house me, and fund the adult social carers. Stopping PIP is the wrong approach. Rant over. " Well said, it's not a rant but a genuine concern. The government are blind to this and don't care. I sincerely hope they stop the pip reform. | |||
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" … mainly because we bombed their countries… 🙄 The white supremacist world view. Take no responsibility for historical factors. Bomb brown people, dust yourself down and scream at the top of your voice with a megaphone on the white cliffs of Dover "Not welcome here" That’s your response, is it? You make some dumb, unfounded, sweeping statement that all the people coming across the channel are from countries the UK has bombed (I must have missed our bombing raids on Albania or Eritrea or Vietnam). As soon as you receive any blowback, you start accusing people of being “white supremacist”. You’re an absolute pastiche. I can’t work out if you’re actually some sort of Reform linked right winger who masquerades as an insane progressive. Your contributions are that predictable and that ridiculous. " They were a lost of reasons why people come here, you singled out one reason to get a reaction | |||
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" So well done. was this on LBC (James O'Brien) BDE is our very own Pound Shop James O'Brien. " He’s often more like a Home Bargains version of Pol Pot. The grand revolution and Year Zero can’t come swiftly enough. | |||
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"How much do immigrants and foreigners get in hand outs? A fair bit, especially if you include the cost of temporary housing. Even more once they're placed in permanent housing. Read above or Google it. It really isn't a lot. Permanent housing??? Do you mean once they've been granted leave to remain and their working and paying taxes the same as any other person living in a council house? Or not working, or having families with a large number of children that soak up benefits. When it comes to housing any many other matters though, we really need to look after our own a little more. A prime example of how housing is allocated can be determined by, and it's a very large elephant in the room, looking at the victims of Grenfell. The breakdown by nationality is very much typical of so many housing estates these days: The Grenfell Tower fire resulted in 72 fatalities, with a significant majority of the victims being from Black, Asian, and minority ethnic (BAME) backgrounds. Specifically, 85% of the residents who died were from BAME communities, according to a report cited by Inside Housing. Among the victims, there were people from the Middle East, North Africa, East and West Africa, Bangladesh, the Caribbean, the Philippines, and Colombia. Here's a more detailed breakdown: Middle East and North Africa: 32 victims. East Africa: 9 victims. West Africa: 5 victims. Bangladeshi heritage: 5 victims. Caribbean: 3 victims. Other: 1 Filipino, 1 Colombian, and 1 with unknown BAME heritage. White British or Irish: 7 victims. The Grenfell Tower Inquiry also noted that many of the residents were first-generation immigrants, with origins spanning various countries. " Statistics show that some 1st generation migrants have larger number of children than the average in a host country. By the time you get to 2nd or 3rd and they've gone through the state system of said host country they revert to the number of children that is average for the state country. | |||
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"So starmer wants to push ahead with punishing the disabled and ignoring his MP's. Why not just stop giving handouts to immigrants and foreigners that is bound to save more. I'm just listening to a guy in a wheelchair who currently receives pip but will not if these reforms go ahead. He says the system does need reform and could save money but these reforms go too far, they need to take longer to work out a different change. He also says that he runs some social media help pages and every single one of them gets taken over by people claiming that it would be enough money if it wasn't for immigrants. And that they are totally wrong! So well done. was this on LBC (James O'Brien) BDE is our very own Pound Shop James O'Brien." ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ | |||
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" So well done. was this on LBC (James O'Brien) BDE is our very own Pound Shop James O'Brien. He’s often more like a Home Bargains version of Pol Pot. The grand revolution and Year Zero can’t come swiftly enough. " I just write words. The tone and authorian inclination you put on them is all in your mind. Jackboots | |||
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" … mainly because we bombed their countries… 🙄 The white supremacist world view. Take no responsibility for historical factors. Bomb brown people, dust yourself down and scream at the top of your voice with a megaphone on the white cliffs of Dover "Not welcome here" That’s your response, is it? You make some dumb, unfounded, sweeping statement that all the people coming across the channel are from countries the UK has bombed (I must have missed our bombing raids on Albania or Eritrea or Vietnam). As soon as you receive any blowback, you start accusing people of being “white supremacist”. You’re an absolute pastiche. I can’t work out if you’re actually some sort of Reform linked right winger who masquerades as an insane progressive. Your contributions are that predictable and that ridiculous. " Top 5 countries of origin who seek asylum, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Bangladesh and Syria. Language, regional instability (bombed out of home), familial ties. | |||
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"Will the revolt me enough to force Starmer into yet another U-Turn. Seems the Bill has been badly thought out.... no surprise there. Having managed to upset most of the Country, he's now upset his own party... a hopeless case. The sooner he goes, the better." History would suggest you'll need to wait until at least the next election. Labour don't have the same mechanisms or desire to topple leaders in Government | |||
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"Will the revolt me enough to force Starmer into yet another U-Turn. Seems the Bill has been badly thought out.... no surprise there. Having managed to upset most of the Country, he's now upset his own party... a hopeless case. The sooner he goes, the better. History would suggest you'll need to wait until at least the next election. Labour don't have the same mechanisms or desire to topple leaders in Government " You are right about the Labour Party not having the mechanisms, however, they can't flounder around like this much longer, even the members will realise this is the road to ruin. | |||
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"Will the revolt me enough to force Starmer into yet another U-Turn. Seems the Bill has been badly thought out.... no surprise there. Having managed to upset most of the Country, he's now upset his own party... a hopeless case. The sooner he goes, the better. History would suggest you'll need to wait until at least the next election. Labour don't have the same mechanisms or desire to topple leaders in Government You are right about the Labour Party not having the mechanisms, however, they can't flounder around like this much longer, even the members will realise this is the road to ruin. " Majority of the public heed no notice until a run up to the election. We are the freaks for paying attention | |||
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"How much do immigrants and foreigners get in hand outs? A fair bit, especially if you include the cost of temporary housing. Even more once they're placed in permanent housing. Read above or Google it. It really isn't a lot. Permanent housing??? Do you mean once they've been granted leave to remain and their working and paying taxes the same as any other person living in a council house? Or not working, or having families with a large number of children that soak up benefits. When it comes to housing any many other matters though, we really need to look after our own a little more. A prime example of how housing is allocated can be determined by, and it's a very large elephant in the room, looking at the victims of Grenfell. The breakdown by nationality is very much typical of so many housing estates these days: The Grenfell Tower fire resulted in 72 fatalities, with a significant majority of the victims being from Black, Asian, and minority ethnic (BAME) backgrounds. Specifically, 85% of the residents who died were from BAME communities, according to a report cited by Inside Housing. Among the victims, there were people from the Middle East, North Africa, East and West Africa, Bangladesh, the Caribbean, the Philippines, and Colombia. Here's a more detailed breakdown: Middle East and North Africa: 32 victims. East Africa: 9 victims. West Africa: 5 victims. Bangladeshi heritage: 5 victims. Caribbean: 3 victims. Other: 1 Filipino, 1 Colombian, and 1 with unknown BAME heritage. White British or Irish: 7 victims. The Grenfell Tower Inquiry also noted that many of the residents were first-generation immigrants, with origins spanning various countries. " I notice you don’t provide any detail about how many of those who died were in gainful employment. Presumably that does not suit your narrative. | |||
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"Probably the same as us tax payers and maybe more. They get houses for free while British born people are on streets homeless. Why else do thousands cross over every week from fance." Give it a break and do some reading. Do you think it’s the French trying to get some post-Brexit bonus by moving here? | |||
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"How much do immigrants and foreigners get in hand outs? A fair bit, especially if you include the cost of temporary housing. Even more once they're placed in permanent housing. Read above or Google it. It really isn't a lot. Permanent housing??? Do you mean once they've been granted leave to remain and their working and paying taxes the same as any other person living in a council house? Or not working, or having families with a large number of children that soak up benefits. When it comes to housing any many other matters though, we really need to look after our own a little more. A prime example of how housing is allocated can be determined by, and it's a very large elephant in the room, looking at the victims of Grenfell. The breakdown by nationality is very much typical of so many housing estates these days: The Grenfell Tower fire resulted in 72 fatalities, with a significant majority of the victims being from Black, Asian, and minority ethnic (BAME) backgrounds. Specifically, 85% of the residents who died were from BAME communities, according to a report cited by Inside Housing. Among the victims, there were people from the Middle East, North Africa, East and West Africa, Bangladesh, the Caribbean, the Philippines, and Colombia. Here's a more detailed breakdown: Middle East and North Africa: 32 victims. East Africa: 9 victims. West Africa: 5 victims. Bangladeshi heritage: 5 victims. Caribbean: 3 victims. Other: 1 Filipino, 1 Colombian, and 1 with unknown BAME heritage. White British or Irish: 7 victims. The Grenfell Tower Inquiry also noted that many of the residents were first-generation immigrants, with origins spanning various countries. I notice you don’t provide any detail about how many of those who died were in gainful employment. Presumably that does not suit your narrative." So it’s ok to burn those who are idle? That’s quite Marxist, and Maoist. Also fucking nasty. | |||
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"On my local High Street The labour party have a office nextdoor to a betting shop (Betfred) apparently the betting shop as lost alot of business as punters or petrified off the Labour party taking their winnings off them " How droll | |||
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