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By *enarde OP   Man
3 days ago

Barnsley

So we spent billions with European partners developing the Euro fighter

Other European Countries will not buy American jets

Then Trump fed Starmer some shite

Who is buying the F35’s now….us!

Seems special relationship was one sided after all

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By *lue555Man
3 days ago

harrow

All both parties do is put us more in debt no plan how to get out of it both of them are shit.

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By *izzeekMan
3 days ago

Out & about

Starmer ludicrously put himself in a weak negotiating position with Trump. You can't spend years insulting and mocking the guy and then expect to reap rewards...

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By *igDickEnergyMan
3 days ago

cardiff

The guy can't do right for doing wrong.

You might just think fair fucks to him for keeping the people safe.

Better to have the capability and at least try and keep USA on side

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By *ature nudistMan
3 days ago

south

These jets are part of the jsf project. The UK does ok out of it plus we need the capability of an aerial delivery of nukes, our jets can't do it.

And times more or less run out.

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By *straman54Man
3 days ago

huddersfield

We have had them for some years now,it’s just they are buying the F35A for the raf as well as the B model which is used by the navy from the carriers.

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By *im125Man
3 days ago

Perth

I don't get the big song and dance about this. As far back as the old faithful F4 Phantom, nuclear weapons could be (and were) carried on RAF fighter/bombers. The only big difference now is, of course the price but mainly the stealth capability of the F35.

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By *egetiusMan
3 days ago

Leeds or York


"So we spent billions with European partners developing the Euro fighter

Other European Countries will not buy American jets

Then Trump fed Starmer some shite

Who is buying the F35’s now….us!

Seems special relationship was one sided after all "

Other European countries apart from Belgium, Finland, Switzerland, Poland, Germany, Czech Republic and Greece?

I was also under the impression we’ve been in talks to buy F35A for ages so it’s hardly news that we’ve decided to go ahead.

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By *hillWithBenefitsMan
3 days ago

withywood

I believe we are now in World War III (Trump started this). The UK is not officially at war, but we've been set at level three for a potential terrorist attack. The Ministry of Defence has five levels of warning status. If we're set at level three, we are very close to going to war. If the UK is buying new army aircraft, that suggests that we are planning to go to war. Get ready to be called into service. I want nothing to do with it, because I'm not fighting for another country that using us.

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By *oose1Man
3 days ago

doncaster

Starmer does has he is told , he’s just a glove puppet . He doesn’t give two fucks about the taxpayers money

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By *londie82Man
3 days ago

London

Another thread of folk winning about somthing they have absolutely no idea about educate yourselves on the matter please bloody hell.

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By *arcusUK2Man
3 days ago

Winchester

Can we afford the petrol though? Rachel from Claims is going to make us all paupers....

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By *weet LisaTV/TS
3 days ago

Crawley

That'll show the Russians. [/sarcasm]

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By *igDickEnergyMan
3 days ago

cardiff


"Can we afford the petrol though? Rachel from Claims is going to make us all paupers...."

Misogyny, such a tough look

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By *ardtack5Man
3 days ago

Gosportr


"Can we afford the petrol though? Rachel from Claims is going to make us all paupers....

Misogyny, such a tough look"

Whatever you do don’t give a woman a nickname, like you equally might do for a man.

It’s MISOGYNY

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By *igDickEnergyMan
3 days ago

cardiff


"Can we afford the petrol though? Rachel from Claims is going to make us all paupers....

Misogyny, such a tough look

Whatever you do don’t give a woman a nickname, like you equally might do for a man.

It’s MISOGYNY"

Tell me, what did you call Rishi, Kwasi, Osbourne, Brown, Clarke???

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By *eefandfurMan
3 days ago

Edinburgh


"Can we afford the petrol though? Rachel from Claims is going to make us all paupers....

Misogyny, such a tough look"

Rachel Reeves is provably awful in her role, how is criticism equivalent of Misogyny. You are the one that is treating women differently. Any person in politics should be able to take criticism, why do you feel Ms Reeves needs special protection.

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By *eefandfurMan
3 days ago

Edinburgh

Is Ed Milliband insisting that they are battery powered.

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By *igDickEnergyMan
3 days ago

cardiff


"Can we afford the petrol though? Rachel from Claims is going to make us all paupers....

Misogyny, such a tough look

Rachel Reeves is provably awful in her role, how is criticism equivalent of Misogyny. You are the one that is treating women differently. Any person in politics should be able to take criticism, why do you feel Ms Reeves needs special protection. "

Criticism is indeed welcome, and would look something like she fluffed the WF announcement mismanagement the communications or you disagree with her on business NICS.

A nickname that demeans her position and undermines her as a women is misogyny.

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By *eefandfurMan
3 days ago

Edinburgh


"Can we afford the petrol though? Rachel from Claims is going to make us all paupers....

Misogyny, such a tough look

Rachel Reeves is provably awful in her role, how is criticism equivalent of Misogyny. You are the one that is treating women differently. Any person in politics should be able to take criticism, why do you feel Ms Reeves needs special protection.

Criticism is indeed welcome, and would look something like she fluffed the WF announcement mismanagement the communications or you disagree with her on business NICS.

A nickname that demeans her position and undermines her as a women is misogyny."

And how often have you demeaned Liz Truss.

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By *orwdMan
3 days ago

Sheffield

Waste....Russia poses no threat to us China's power is overwhelming ...spend taxes on health and welfare.

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By *igDickEnergyMan
3 days ago

cardiff


"Can we afford the petrol though? Rachel from Claims is going to make us all paupers....

Misogyny, such a tough look

Rachel Reeves is provably awful in her role, how is criticism equivalent of Misogyny. You are the one that is treating women differently. Any person in politics should be able to take criticism, why do you feel Ms Reeves needs special protection.

Criticism is indeed welcome, and would look something like she fluffed the WF announcement mismanagement the communications or you disagree with her on business NICS.

A nickname that demeans her position and undermines her as a women is misogyny.

And how often have you demeaned Liz Truss. "

Never for being a women. Only a terrible prime minister.

Criticism

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By *eefandfurMan
3 days ago

Edinburgh


"Can we afford the petrol though? Rachel from Claims is going to make us all paupers....

Misogyny, such a tough look

Rachel Reeves is provably awful in her role, how is criticism equivalent of Misogyny. You are the one that is treating women differently. Any person in politics should be able to take criticism, why do you feel Ms Reeves needs special protection.

Criticism is indeed welcome, and would look something like she fluffed the WF announcement mismanagement the communications or you disagree with her on business NICS.

A nickname that demeans her position and undermines her as a women is misogyny.

And how often have you demeaned Liz Truss.

Never for being a women. Only a terrible prime minister.

Criticism "

You read: "Rachel from Claims is going to make us all paupers" and see it as criticism of her sex. That's a you problem.

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By *igDickEnergyMan
3 days ago

cardiff


"Can we afford the petrol though? Rachel from Claims is going to make us all paupers....

Misogyny, such a tough look

Rachel Reeves is provably awful in her role, how is criticism equivalent of Misogyny. You are the one that is treating women differently. Any person in politics should be able to take criticism, why do you feel Ms Reeves needs special protection.

Criticism is indeed welcome, and would look something like she fluffed the WF announcement mismanagement the communications or you disagree with her on business NICS.

A nickname that demeans her position and undermines her as a women is misogyny.

And how often have you demeaned Liz Truss.

Never for being a women. Only a terrible prime minister.

Criticism

You read: "Rachel from Claims is going to make us all paupers" and see it as criticism of her sex. That's a you problem. "

Week week week, your frit!! Your looking for an argument and fluffed your lines.

It's Rachel from accounts.

She's the most powerful women in the country chancellor of the exchequer and your demeaning her position by making out she's a lowly pen pusher from the accounts department.

Misogyny is an endemic problem in the UK.

You have just shown you are a part of the problem

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By *igDickEnergyMan
3 days ago

cardiff


"Waste....Russia poses no threat to us China's power is overwhelming ...spend taxes on health and welfare. "

The Skripals would beg to differ

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By *eefandfurMan
3 days ago

Edinburgh


"Can we afford the petrol though? Rachel from Claims is going to make us all paupers....

Misogyny, such a tough look

Rachel Reeves is provably awful in her role, how is criticism equivalent of Misogyny. You are the one that is treating women differently. Any person in politics should be able to take criticism, why do you feel Ms Reeves needs special protection.

Criticism is indeed welcome, and would look something like she fluffed the WF announcement mismanagement the communications or you disagree with her on business NICS.

A nickname that demeans her position and undermines her as a women is misogyny.

And how often have you demeaned Liz Truss.

Never for being a women. Only a terrible prime minister.

Criticism

You read: "Rachel from Claims is going to make us all paupers" and see it as criticism of her sex. That's a you problem.

Week week week, your frit!! Your looking for an argument and fluffed your lines.

It's Rachel from accounts.

She's the most powerful women in the country chancellor of the exchequer and your demeaning her position by making out she's a lowly pen pusher from the accounts department.

Misogyny is an endemic problem in the UK.

You have just shown you are a part of the problem "

You didn't stand up for women when it came to their legitimate concerns re trans identified males invading women's spaces. Denied and dismissed the existence of trans identified male predators.

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By *igDickEnergyMan
3 days ago

cardiff


"Can we afford the petrol though? Rachel from Claims is going to make us all paupers....

Misogyny, such a tough look

Rachel Reeves is provably awful in her role, how is criticism equivalent of Misogyny. You are the one that is treating women differently. Any person in politics should be able to take criticism, why do you feel Ms Reeves needs special protection.

Criticism is indeed welcome, and would look something like she fluffed the WF announcement mismanagement the communications or you disagree with her on business NICS.

A nickname that demeans her position and undermines her as a women is misogyny.

And how often have you demeaned Liz Truss.

Never for being a women. Only a terrible prime minister.

Criticism

You read: "Rachel from Claims is going to make us all paupers" and see it as criticism of her sex. That's a you problem.

Week week week, your frit!! Your looking for an argument and fluffed your lines.

It's Rachel from accounts.

She's the most powerful women in the country chancellor of the exchequer and your demeaning her position by making out she's a lowly pen pusher from the accounts department.

Misogyny is an endemic problem in the UK.

You have just shown you are a part of the problem

You didn't stand up for women when it came to their legitimate concerns re trans identified males invading women's spaces. Denied and dismissed the existence of trans identified male predators. "

Desperate stuff!!

I can hold more than one thought in my mind!

I'm pro women and pro trans! Unless your brains boiled most sensible people can see the nuances and complexities of the toxic debate.

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By *3versMan
3 days ago

glasgow


"Can we afford the petrol though? Rachel from Claims is going to make us all paupers....

Misogyny, such a tough look

Rachel Reeves is provably awful in her role, how is criticism equivalent of Misogyny. You are the one that is treating women differently. Any person in politics should be able to take criticism, why do you feel Ms Reeves needs special protection.

Criticism is indeed welcome, and would look something like she fluffed the WF announcement mismanagement the communications or you disagree with her on business NICS.

A nickname that demeans her position and undermines her as a women is misogyny.

And how often have you demeaned Liz Truss.

Never for being a women. Only a terrible prime minister.

Criticism

You read: "Rachel from Claims is going to make us all paupers" and see it as criticism of her sex. That's a you problem.

Week week week, your frit!! Your looking for an argument and fluffed your lines.

It's Rachel from accounts.

She's the most powerful women in the country chancellor of the exchequer and your demeaning her position by making out she's a lowly pen pusher from the accounts department.

Misogyny is an endemic problem in the UK.

You have just shown you are a part of the problem "

Lol, you just don't get it

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By *igDickEnergyMan
3 days ago

cardiff


"Can we afford the petrol though? Rachel from Claims is going to make us all paupers....

Misogyny, such a tough look

Rachel Reeves is provably awful in her role, how is criticism equivalent of Misogyny. You are the one that is treating women differently. Any person in politics should be able to take criticism, why do you feel Ms Reeves needs special protection.

Criticism is indeed welcome, and would look something like she fluffed the WF announcement mismanagement the communications or you disagree with her on business NICS.

A nickname that demeans her position and undermines her as a women is misogyny.

And how often have you demeaned Liz Truss.

Never for being a women. Only a terrible prime minister.

Criticism

You read: "Rachel from Claims is going to make us all paupers" and see it as criticism of her sex. That's a you problem.

Week week week, your frit!! Your looking for an argument and fluffed your lines.

It's Rachel from accounts.

She's the most powerful women in the country chancellor of the exchequer and your demeaning her position by making out she's a lowly pen pusher from the accounts department.

Misogyny is an endemic problem in the UK.

You have just shown you are a part of the problem

Lol, you just don't get it"

Gladly

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By *eefandfurMan
3 days ago

Edinburgh


"

You didn't stand up for women when it came to their legitimate concerns re trans identified males invading women's spaces. Denied and dismissed the existence of trans identified male predators.

Desperate stuff!!

I can hold more than one thought in my mind!

I'm pro women and pro trans! Unless your brains boiled most sensible people can see the nuances and complexities of the toxic debate."

You seem to be pro everything. Except original thought.

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By *ral.subMan
3 days ago

Swindon

Love the irony… Iran is not allowed nuclear weapons even though Israel and many other countries have them and we’re now purchasing planes to carry these nuclear weapons. Couldn’t make up the hypocrisy

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By *igDickEnergyMan
2 days ago

cardiff


"

You didn't stand up for women when it came to their legitimate concerns re trans identified males invading women's spaces. Denied and dismissed the existence of trans identified male predators.

Desperate stuff!!

I can hold more than one thought in my mind!

I'm pro women and pro trans! Unless your brains boiled most sensible people can see the nuances and complexities of the toxic debate.

You seem to be pro everything. Except original thought.

"

Pro humanity, pro empathy and pro intelligence.

Seems lacking on here

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By *usan jonesTV/TS
2 days ago

Wolverhampton

I believe they have the capability to fire nuclear missiles which we don’t currently have with our current jets but at the minute the aren’t designed for use on our aircraft carriers so will need some further modifications

It’s a good thing but also a bad thing but I’m afraid I think we need them if nothing more than a deterrent

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By *ichey6Man
2 days ago

aberdeen


"

You didn't stand up for women when it came to their legitimate concerns re trans identified males invading women's spaces. Denied and dismissed the existence of trans identified male predators.

Desperate stuff!!

I can hold more than one thought in my mind!

I'm pro women and pro trans! Unless your brains boiled most sensible people can see the nuances and complexities of the toxic debate.

You seem to be pro everything. Except original thought.

"

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🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

What original thought do you offer? Your perspectives are based on the thinking of others rather than being any remotely novel.

Practice what you preach 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

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By *eefandfurMan
2 days ago

Edinburgh


"

You didn't stand up for women when it came to their legitimate concerns re trans identified males invading women's spaces. Denied and dismissed the existence of trans identified male predators.

Desperate stuff!!

I can hold more than one thought in my mind!

I'm pro women and pro trans! Unless your brains boiled most sensible people can see the nuances and complexities of the toxic debate.

You seem to be pro everything. Except original thought.

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...

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

What original thought do you offer? Your perspectives are based on the thinking of others rather than being any remotely novel.

Practice what you preach 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿"

It's hard for a slacktivist that goes thought life signalling their support for the latest thing, to imagine how someone could consider a range of sources to reach a conclusion; more so if that conclusion differs from the approved narrative.

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By *ichey6Man
2 days ago

aberdeen

Which wouldn't be original thought per se.

Do keep up old bean.

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By *ichey6Man
2 days ago

aberdeen

Mucho irony re 'approved narrative'. Apologist thinking from those who turn a blind eye to Bibi's monstrous ways in the apartheid hell that is Gaza springs to mind re such discourse.

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By *eefandfurMan
2 days ago

Edinburgh


"Which wouldn't be original thought per se.

Do keep up old bean."

So you condone just making stuff up. That explains many of your interpretations.

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By *igDickEnergyMan
2 days ago

cardiff


"

You didn't stand up for women when it came to their legitimate concerns re trans identified males invading women's spaces. Denied and dismissed the existence of trans identified male predators.

Desperate stuff!!

I can hold more than one thought in my mind!

I'm pro women and pro trans! Unless your brains boiled most sensible people can see the nuances and complexities of the toxic debate.

You seem to be pro everything. Except original thought.

....

...

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

What original thought do you offer? Your perspectives are based on the thinking of others rather than being any remotely novel.

Practice what you preach 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

It's hard for a slacktivist that goes thought life signalling their support for the latest thing, to imagine how someone could consider a range of sources to reach a conclusion; more so if that conclusion differs from the approved narrative. "

Yeah, define the latest thing?

Seeing as your guys are in power in America, Israel, Hungary, Russia and on the rise through Europe and Britain.

I'd say your line of thought is the latest thing!

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By *ichey6Man
2 days ago

aberdeen

Who is making what up?

My interpretations are based on empirical evidence and engagement/or lack of from posters around said evidence.

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By *arbus61Man
2 days ago

Leeds

When you think the F14 was actually faster than the F35s

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By *ichey6Man
2 days ago

aberdeen

Keir Starmer. Statesman.

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By *eefandfurMan
2 days ago

Edinburgh


"

You didn't stand up for women when it came to their legitimate concerns re trans identified males invading women's spaces. Denied and dismissed the existence of trans identified male predators.

Desperate stuff!!

I can hold more than one thought in my mind!

I'm pro women and pro trans! Unless your brains boiled most sensible people can see the nuances and complexities of the toxic debate.

You seem to be pro everything. Except original thought.

....

...

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

What original thought do you offer? Your perspectives are based on the thinking of others rather than being any remotely novel.

Practice what you preach 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

It's hard for a slacktivist that goes thought life signalling their support for the latest thing, to imagine how someone could consider a range of sources to reach a conclusion; more so if that conclusion differs from the approved narrative.

Yeah, define the latest thing?

Seeing as your guys are in power in America, Israel, Hungary, Russia and on the rise through Europe and Britain.

I'd say your line of thought is the latest thing!"

The Latest Thing: Orange Man Bad, Queers for Palestine, Putin is Hitler, Criticism of any woman is Misogyny.

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By *eefandfurMan
2 days ago

Edinburgh


"Who is making what up?

My interpretations are based on empirical evidence and engagement/or lack of from posters around said evidence.

"

"What original thought do you offer? Your perspectives are based on the thinking of others rather than being any remotely novel."

Keep up old bean.

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By *ichey6Man
2 days ago

aberdeen

Pro Palestine is Pro Islamist

Greta is a Chancer

CD's are iffy

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By *ichey6Man
2 days ago

aberdeen


"Who is making what up?

My interpretations are based on empirical evidence and engagement/or lack of from posters around said evidence.

"What original thought do you offer? Your perspectives are based on the thinking of others rather than being any remotely novel."

Keep up old bean. "

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🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

You've missed the obvious:I never suggested otherwise.

Digging! Still digging! 😱 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

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By *ub460Man
2 days ago

S. Derbys

F35A, the 'air superiority' version, longer range more weapons and 25% cheaper per plane than the F35B.

UK bought the F35B as it meant the two aircraft carriers it was building could be built without catapult launch and arrested landing equipment thus saving several £ on the build cost of the aircraft carriers.

The F35B is built for short (and non-catapult) take off and vertical unassisted landing. This makes it very flexible and works on smaller ships, but also on makeshift runways.

(The F35C is designed for 'classic type' aircraft carriers used by the USA and France. It, like the F35A has a longer range and can carry more weapons than the F35B.)

The nuclear weapon that the F35A is designed to carry for the UK is a 'free fall bomb'. You drop it and it falls to the ground. It can use its fins to guide it to target once dropped, but doesn't have a motor or rocket so cannot be 'fired' from a plane at a distant target.

It is US built weapon. Its already deployed in Europe as part of NATOs nuclear sharing program. As part of that program I believe the US has to agree to the use of any of these weapons.

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By *etterbiggerMan
2 days ago

Scunthorpe


"F35A, the 'air superiority' version, longer range more weapons and 25% cheaper per plane than the F35B.

UK bought the F35B as it meant the two aircraft carriers it was building could be built without catapult launch and arrested landing equipment thus saving several £ on the build cost of the aircraft carriers.

The F35B is built for short (and non-catapult) take off and vertical unassisted landing. This makes it very flexible and works on smaller ships, but also on makeshift runways.

(The F35C is designed for 'classic type' aircraft carriers used by the USA and France. It, like the F35A has a longer range and can carry more weapons than the F35B.)

The nuclear weapon that the F35A is designed to carry for the UK is a 'free fall bomb'. You drop it and it falls to the ground. It can use its fins to guide it to target once dropped, but doesn't have a motor or rocket so cannot be 'fired' from a plane at a distant target.

It is US built weapon. Its already deployed in Europe as part of NATOs nuclear sharing program. As part of that program I believe the US has to agree to the use of any of these weapons."

Oh yes

This thread was about buying planes to defend ourselves. I'd almost forgotten about that amongst all the shite and drivel

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By *ichey6Man
2 days ago

aberdeen

🙀😿

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By *itherMan
2 days ago

Leeds

Is the reason for prices going up ridiculously that they're saving the pennies so they can blow people up or stop us from getting blown up.

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By *ancsbisexMan
2 days ago

Burnley

Apparently there's no money for the disabled and elderly but we can afford to house illegal migrants in hotels and buy American jets and fund a war in Ukraine. Which black hole did Rachel find this money from?

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By *igDickEnergyMan
2 days ago

cardiff


"

You didn't stand up for women when it came to their legitimate concerns re trans identified males invading women's spaces. Denied and dismissed the existence of trans identified male predators.

Desperate stuff!!

I can hold more than one thought in my mind!

I'm pro women and pro trans! Unless your brains boiled most sensible people can see the nuances and complexities of the toxic debate.

You seem to be pro everything. Except original thought.

....

...

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

What original thought do you offer? Your perspectives are based on the thinking of others rather than being any remotely novel.

Practice what you preach 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

It's hard for a slacktivist that goes thought life signalling their support for the latest thing, to imagine how someone could consider a range of sources to reach a conclusion; more so if that conclusion differs from the approved narrative.

Yeah, define the latest thing?

Seeing as your guys are in power in America, Israel, Hungary, Russia and on the rise through Europe and Britain.

I'd say your line of thought is the latest thing!

The Latest Thing: Orange Man Bad, Queers for Palestine, Putin is Hitler, Criticism of any woman is Misogyny. "

Sounds like your against modernity, progressivism and kindness.

Lucky for you it's 2025 and they're in retreat.

Unlucky for you, these things ebb and flow and people like me will always exist to make the case for all those good stuff.

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By *agedsubCoolMan
2 days ago

amesbury


"So we spent billions with European partners developing the Euro fighter

Other European Countries will not buy American jets

Then Trump fed Starmer some shite

Who is buying the F35’s now….us!

Seems special relationship was one sided after all "

We already have the F35B for the Navy, this is an additional 12 F35As for the RAF.

British companies are part of the consortium that builds the F35.

F35 and Eurofighter Typhoon fulfil different roles. It not a case of one or the other.

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By *anontheroadMan
2 days ago

working in the area next month

Where else are you going to buy the jets?

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