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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. " It's not illegal to seek asylum | |||
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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. It's not illegal to seek asylum " But it is illegal to arrive unauthorised on a small boat without ID... | |||
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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. " Those who breach UK borders are nothing less than invaders, and it's imperative that we uphold our nation's sovereignty. We've defended these islands throughout history with unwavering resolve; it's time to stand firm once more – no exceptions, no excuses. 🇬🇧 | |||
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"It's a solution to a problem that's become a cancer in society and still there will be complaints. It's about time the government start publishing the deportation figures not just the arrivals. " https://www.gov.uk/government/news/home-office-smashes-targets-with-mass-surge-in-migrant-removals Agreed, this information seems to be ignored by most of the media - almost as if they have their own agenda and fail to publish anything that doesn’t fit. | |||
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"They need to stop fannying about and let the navy do their job and properly protect our borders. That's what we pay them to do. " The navy said no, because of many reasons not limited to maritime law, international law, british law but also for morals. Morals that are lacking amongst so many people | |||
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"It's a solution to a problem that's become a cancer in society and still there will be complaints. It's about time the government start publishing the deportation figures not just the arrivals. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/home-office-smashes-targets-with-mass-surge-in-migrant-removals Agreed, this information seems to be ignored by most of the media - almost as if they have their own agenda and fail to publish anything that doesn’t fit." Exactly. Currently they're feeding the cancer as it's what garners the most revenue, stoking the fire of hatred amongst so many | |||
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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. It's not illegal to seek asylum But it is illegal to arrive unauthorised on a small boat without ID... " Unless you are stopped or arrive at the nearest government building/service.. | |||
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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. Those who breach UK borders are nothing less than invaders, and it's imperative that we uphold our nation's sovereignty. We've defended these islands throughout history with unwavering resolve; it's time to stand firm once more – no exceptions, no excuses. 🇬🇧 " We did indeed defend these islands against a government which wanted to eradicate entire sections of society. We successfully staved off nazism but 80 years later, there are many in our society that want it back and for us to be the aggressors the world needs to defend against, whilst pretending to be patriotic but mirroring the US maga cult. | |||
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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. Those who breach UK borders are nothing less than invaders, and it's imperative that we uphold our nation's sovereignty. We've defended these islands throughout history with unwavering resolve; it's time to stand firm once more – no exceptions, no excuses. 🇬🇧 We did indeed defend these islands against a government which wanted to eradicate entire sections of society. We successfully staved off nazism but 80 years later, there are many in our society that want it back and for us to be the aggressors the world needs to defend against, whilst pretending to be patriotic but mirroring the US maga cult. " You appear to be talking sense. That'll never catch on here  | |||
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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. Those who breach UK borders are nothing less than invaders, and it's imperative that we uphold our nation's sovereignty. We've defended these islands throughout history with unwavering resolve; it's time to stand firm once more – no exceptions, no excuses. 🇬🇧 " Jesus, hi Nigel!  | |||
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"Another bird brain idear from this government Maybe if these boat people knew within 24hours of arriving in uk they would be on a plane to the Falklands isle, they wouldn't come" Or Rwanda? Cus that idea was fucking brilliant, right? | |||
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"If you are so passionate about your country you shou learn the language!" Shou? The irony here is exquisite. | |||
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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. " Yes how about Rwanda. Now that's a good idea  | |||
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"Another bird brain idear from this government Maybe if these boat people knew within 24hours of arriving in uk they would be on a plane to the Falklands isle, they wouldn't come Or Rwanda? Cus that idea was fucking brilliant, right? " Falklands being British cuts out the not safe country argument used by lawyers | |||
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"This is now the reform party selection process. Every time a tory joins, someone has to leave the party for breaking the law. " LOL but true. So far they have lost 40% of their original 2024 intake of MPs. Councillors are resigning right, left and centre, either now sitting as independents or causing expensive by-elections. I hear that some woman Reform councillor is up on a charge for disrupting and possible assault at a Pride event. | |||
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"If you are so passionate about your country you shou learn the language! Shou? The irony here is exquisite. " lol, love it.  | |||
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"Another bird brain idear from this government Maybe if these boat people knew within 24hours of arriving in uk they would be on a plane to the Falklands isle, they wouldn't come Or Rwanda? Cus that idea was fucking brilliant, right? Falklands being British cuts out the not safe country argument used by lawyers " It certainly does. Falklands is arguably safer than parts of UK. If one of these new arrivals finds themselves in NI they could end up on top of a bonfire! Very few bonfires in the Falklands, just sheep. | |||
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"Hope they get the counting right and it's not 10 in 1 out" Don't worry. Labour have Diane Abbott to look after the counting. Oh. Err shit . | |||
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"Hope they get the counting right and it's not 10 in 1 out" If Rachel from accounts has anything to do with it...... | |||
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"Hope they get the counting right and it's not 10 in 1 out Don't worry. Labour have Diane Abbott to look after the counting. Oh. Err shit ." Can you imagine if Dianne A and Rachel from accounts were Math's Teachers?.... | |||
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"Another bird brain idear from this government Maybe if these boat people knew within 24hours of arriving in uk they would be on a plane to the Falklands isle, they wouldn't come Or Rwanda? Cus that idea was fucking brilliant, right? Falklands being British cuts out the not safe country argument used by lawyers It certainly does. Falklands is arguably safer than parts of UK. If one of these new arrivals finds themselves in NI they could end up on top of a bonfire! Very few bonfires in the Falklands, just sheep. " Leave the lovely Falklands alone. I think South Georgia would be better. Or that wedge of Antarctica which we claim to own. Cool 'em down a bit. | |||
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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. Those who breach UK borders are nothing less than invaders, and it's imperative that we uphold our nation's sovereignty. We've defended these islands throughout history with unwavering resolve; it's time to stand firm once more – no exceptions, no excuses. 🇬🇧 Jesus, hi Nigel! "A man not as great as Jesus but certainly far greater than Nigel:- "...we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be." - WLSC - 4th June, 1940. 🇬🇧 | |||
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"Another bird brain idear from this government Maybe if these boat people knew within 24hours of arriving in uk they would be on a plane to the Falklands isle, they wouldn't come Or Rwanda? Cus that idea was fucking brilliant, right? Falklands being British cuts out the not safe country argument used by lawyers It certainly does. Falklands is arguably safer than parts of UK. If one of these new arrivals finds themselves in NI they could end up on top of a bonfire! Very few bonfires in the Falklands, just sheep. Leave the lovely Falklands alone. I think South Georgia would be better. Or that wedge of Antarctica which we claim to own. Cool 'em down a bit." Ok then. But make sure they get the right Georgia. We don't want them being hunted by rednecks. | |||
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"They need to stop fannying about and let the navy do their job and properly protect our borders. That's what we pay them to do. " So what do you want the Navy to do - Blow them out of the water killing the lot of them? Some how I think there would be a mutiny on any vessel where the order was given to open fire on unarmed civilians and quite rightly too. | |||
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"Hope they get the counting right and it's not 10 in 1 out Don't worry. Labour have Diane Abbott to look after the counting. Oh. Err shit . Can you imagine if Dianne A and Rachel from accounts were Math's Teachers?...." Be even worse if it was Liz the Lettuce - “l know” (in a shrill voice). | |||
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" Falklands is arguably safer than parts of UK. If one of these new arrivals finds themselves in NI they could end up on top of a bonfire! Very few bonfires in the Falklands, just sheep. Leave the lovely Falklands alone. I think South Georgia would be better. Or that wedge of Antarctica which we claim to own. Cool 'em down a bit. Ok then. But make sure they get the right Georgia. We don't want them being hunted by rednecks." Absolutely. The remote South Atlantic island of South Georgia and neither the southern state of Yankeedoodleland or the beautiful Caucasus country | |||
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"Another bird brain idear from this government Maybe if these boat people knew within 24hours of arriving in uk they would be on a plane to the Falklands isle, they wouldn't come Or Rwanda? Cus that idea was fucking brilliant, right? Falklands being British cuts out the not safe country argument used by lawyers It certainly does. Falklands is arguably safer than parts of UK. If one of these new arrivals finds themselves in NI they could end up on top of a bonfire! Very few bonfires in the Falklands, just sheep. Leave the lovely Falklands alone. I think South Georgia would be better. Or that wedge of Antarctica which we claim to own. Cool 'em down a bit. Ok then. But make sure they get the right Georgia. We don't want them being hunted by rednecks." Or ending up in Russia if Vlad Putrid decides to invade them as they have sided with Ukrainia. | |||
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"They need to stop fannying about and let the navy do their job and properly protect our borders. That's what we pay them to do. So what do you want the Navy to do - Blow them out of the water killing the lot of them? Some how I think there would be a mutiny on any vessel where the order was given to open fire on unarmed civilians and quite rightly too." Send frogmen in to cut the rubber. Theyre all issued with lifejackets and escor..d by the french. Do it in French waters so they can rescue them and return to France. They will soon stop coming by boat. | |||
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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. Those who breach UK borders are nothing less than invaders, and it's imperative that we uphold our nation's sovereignty. We've defended these islands throughout history with unwavering resolve; it's time to stand firm once more – no exceptions, no excuses. 🇬🇧 Jesus, hi Nigel!
A man not as great as Jesus but certainly far greater than Nigel:-
"...we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be." -
WLSC - 4th June, 1940. 🇬🇧""Defend" from who exactly? Your language is inflammatory and to say we're being "invaded" is very 1930s Germany in tone. Ironic since you're quoting Churchill! | |||
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"They need to stop fannying about and let the navy do their job and properly protect our borders. That's what we pay them to do. So what do you want the Navy to do - Blow them out of the water killing the lot of them? Some how I think there would be a mutiny on any vessel where the order was given to open fire on unarmed civilians and quite rightly too. Send frogmen in to cut the rubber. Theyre all issued with lifejackets and escor..d by the french. Do it in French waters so they can rescue them and return to France. They will soon stop coming by boat. " So you want us to break international maritime law. | |||
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" Falklands being British cuts out the not safe country argument used by lawyers " Have you no respect for the Falkland Islanders or the sheep thereon?. | |||
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"We should only be taking those with a skill and that are sponsored to get a job once here and have the correct visa." The vast vast majority of immigrants fill this profile. What we ask for should change clearly. For asylum seekers we need to process paperwork fast. And then send them back if not accepted. Most are , and should be given permission to work asap. If not feasible to send them back then as illegal entry, prison. As for the gravy train that suck hundreds of millions a year out of councils , let's be clear, no preferential treatment. And no subcontracting allowed. Once you have permission to work then your in a tent until we can get you accomodation. But the same tent as evry other homeless person in the country. The dss hostel gravy train has to stop. | |||
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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. Those who breach UK borders are nothing less than invaders, and it's imperative that we uphold our nation's sovereignty. We've defended these islands throughout history with unwavering resolve; it's time to stand firm once more – no exceptions, no excuses. 🇬🇧 " No one has crossed the borders of other nations quite like the UK? Delve into your history. | |||
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" Those who breach UK borders are nothing less than invaders, and it's imperative that we uphold our nation's sovereignty. We've defended these islands throughout history with unwavering resolve; it's time to stand firm once more – no exceptions, no excuses. 🇬🇧 Jesus, hi Nigel!
A man not as great as Jesus but certainly far greater than Nigel:-
"...we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be." -
WLSC - 4th June, 1940. 🇬🇧
"Defend" from who exactly? Your language is inflammatory and to say we're being "invaded" is very 1930s Germany in tone. Ironic since you're quoting Churchill!"So what do you call them if we are not allowed to say invaders? If a total stranger wanders in your house, through the open patio doors, sit on your settee, expects you to feed them and provide a bed for the night, what would you call them? An honoured guest? We are talking hundred here. Very often the equivalent of a village or small town a week. And no they are not all doctors, nurses, lawyers, engineers etc who will start work next Monday, pay taxes and pay for their own accommodation, food, clothing, healthcare etc. I think invaders is a reasonable term. | |||
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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. Those who breach UK borders are nothing less than invaders, and it's imperative that we uphold our nation's sovereignty. We've defended these islands throughout history with unwavering resolve; it's time to stand firm once more – no exceptions, no excuses. 🇬🇧 Jesus, hi Nigel!
A man not as great as Jesus but certainly far greater than Nigel:-
"...we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be." -
WLSC - 4th June, 1940. 🇬🇧
"Defend" from who exactly? Your language is inflammatory and to say we're being "invaded" is very 1930s Germany in tone. Ironic since you're quoting Churchill!"Would you perhaps kindly highlight the particular words you so construe as being 'inflammatory'? The phrase 'defend our island' seems rather straightforward, given our geographical reality. As for the word 'invaded,' it's a perfectly fitting description when discussing the huge strain on our resources and infrastructure due to uncontrolled immigration. I don't see any particular German inference from the word "invaded" it's a term that applies to any unwarranted influx. Perhaps the issue lies not in the language, but in the uncomfortable truths it conveys? | |||
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"It is truly remarkable to witness the individual here juxtaposing the arrival of two rubber boats with the Nazi assaults of World War II. At times, one might consider Nigel to be over the top, yet upon observing his fans, it becomes evident that they are utterly incensed and equally oblivious." That's your totally erroneous misinterpretation there Chubs!! | |||
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" Those who breach UK borders are nothing less than invaders, and it's imperative that we uphold our nation's sovereignty. We've defended these islands throughout history with unwavering resolve; it's time to stand firm once more – no exceptions, no excuses. 🇬🇧 Jesus, hi Nigel!
A man not as great as Jesus but certainly far greater than Nigel:-
"...we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be." -
WLSC - 4th June, 1940. 🇬🇧
"Defend" from who exactly? Your language is inflammatory and to say we're being "invaded" is very 1930s Germany in tone. Ironic since you're quoting Churchill!
So what do you call them if we are not allowed to say invaders? If a total stranger wanders in your house, through the open patio doors, sit on your settee, expects you to feed them and provide a bed for the night, what would you call them? An honoured guest? We are talking hundred here. Very often the equivalent of a village or small town a week. And no they are not all doctors, nurses, lawyers, engineers etc who will start work next Monday, pay taxes and pay for their own accommodation, food, clothing, healthcare etc. I think invaders is a reasonable term."Hear! Hear! Wildwesthero!!👍👍👍👍 | |||
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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. Those who breach UK borders are nothing less than invaders, and it's imperative that we uphold our nation's sovereignty. We've defended these islands throughout history with unwavering resolve; it's time to stand firm once more – no exceptions, no excuses. 🇬🇧 Jesus, hi Nigel!
A man not as great as Jesus but certainly far greater than Nigel:-
"...we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be." -
WLSC - 4th June, 1940. 🇬🇧
"Defend" from who exactly? Your language is inflammatory and to say we're being "invaded" is very 1930s Germany in tone. Ironic since you're quoting Churchill!
Would you perhaps kindly highlight the particular words you so construe as being 'inflammatory'?
The phrase 'defend our island' seems rather straightforward, given our geographical reality.
As for the word 'invaded,' it's a perfectly fitting description when discussing the huge strain on our resources and infrastructure due to uncontrolled immigration. I don't see any particular German inference from the word "invaded" it's a term that applies to any unwarranted influx.
Perhaps the issue lies not in the language, but in the uncomfortable truths it conveys?
"To claim that we are defending our nation against two inflatable vessels, which carry families and children seeking assistance, is a gross misrepresentation. That is the incendiary language he attempted to convey to you. Such nonsense is something I have never encountered in my life. | |||
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"It is truly remarkable to witness the individual here juxtaposing the arrival of two rubber boats with the Nazi assaults of World War II. At times, one might consider Nigel to be over the top, yet upon observing his fans, it becomes evident that they are utterly incensed and equally oblivious." "Two rubber boats"?????? Some days there are between 500 and a 1000 people coming over so I think it is a bit more than the two rubber boats you say. Or was you talking about a specific 30 minute time slot? I don't think anyone is suggesting they are coming over with machine guns and hand-grenades. However they do seem to expect us to house them, feed them etc. at great expense, and ultimately absorb them into our society. Personally I detest Nigel and his acolyte party but they do have a point on this issue. | |||
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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. Those who breach UK borders are nothing less than invaders, and it's imperative that we uphold our nation's sovereignty. We've defended these islands throughout history with unwavering resolve; it's time to stand firm once more – no exceptions, no excuses. 🇬🇧 No one has crossed the borders of other nations quite like the UK? Delve into your history." Equally too, no other country has given the world and its people the many gifts that Britain has. Yes, certainly, please do delve into your history – it's a splendid idea! You might just discover the depth of British contributions that have shaped the modern world! | |||
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"It is truly remarkable to witness the individual here juxtaposing the arrival of two rubber boats with the Nazi assaults of World War II. At times, one might consider Nigel to be over the top, yet upon observing his fans, it becomes evident that they are utterly incensed and equally oblivious. "Two rubber boats"?????? Some days there are between 500 and a 1000 people coming over so I think it is a bit more than the two rubber boats you say. Or was you talking about a specific 30 minute time slot? I don't think anyone is suggesting they are coming over with machine guns and hand-grenades. However they do seem to expect us to house them, feed them etc. at great expense, and ultimately absorb them into our society. Personally I detest Nigel and his acolyte party but they do have a point on this issue." Eight rubber boats reached the UK within a week; I was magnanimous in stating it was merely two. Please refrain from categorizing all of them as illegal, as you are undoubtedly unaware of the nuances of international law. The UK government must address this situation, rather than labeling them as invaders and advocating for their demise or repatriation. What on earth? | |||
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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. Those who breach UK borders are nothing less than invaders, and it's imperative that we uphold our nation's sovereignty. We've defended these islands throughout history with unwavering resolve; it's time to stand firm once more – no exceptions, no excuses. 🇬🇧 No one has crossed the borders of other nations quite like the UK? Delve into your history. Equally too, no other country has given the world and its people the many gifts that Britain has. Yes, certainly, please do delve into your history – it's a splendid idea! You might just discover the depth of British contributions that have shaped the modern world! " You are attempting to shift the discussion, a matter in which I have no desire to engage. | |||
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"It is truly remarkable to witness the individual here juxtaposing the arrival of two rubber boats with the Nazi assaults of World War II. At times, one might consider Nigel to be over the top, yet upon observing his fans, it becomes evident that they are utterly incensed and equally oblivious. "Two rubber boats"?????? Some days there are between 500 and a 1000 people coming over so I think it is a bit more than the two rubber boats you say. Or was you talking about a specific 30 minute time slot? I don't think anyone is suggesting they are coming over with machine guns and hand-grenades. However they do seem to expect us to house them, feed them etc. at great expense, and ultimately absorb them into our society. Personally I detest Nigel and his acolyte party but they do have a point on this issue. Eight rubber boats reached the UK within a week; I was magnanimous in stating it was merely two. Please refrain from categorizing all of them as illegal, as you are undoubtedly unaware of the nuances of international law. The UK government must address this situation, rather than labeling them as invaders and advocating for their demise or repatriation. What on earth?" I think it is more like eight a day subject to weather and crossing conditions. I am aware of international law but why are they leaving France? Is France an unsafe country? Is France either in a state of civil war or at war with another country? Is France a totalitarian dictatorship where these people are in serious danger of their lives? Yes some may be genuine asylum seekers but a lot are economic migrants hoping for a cushy life over here. Don't think anyone is really calling for their demise but you can understand people calling for their repatriation. | |||
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"Facts. Let's use the boat which Nigel happened to witness yesterday. 78 onboard. 1 woman 3 children 74 males. So let's drop all this families and children bull shit. " In the recent migrant boat sinking in the English Channel, twelve people died, including six children and a pregnant woman. The boat, carrying dozens of migrants, capsized off the French coast near Boulogne-sur-Mer. Ten of the deceased were female, and two were Male. Bullshit ????The perspective from which one views the news significantly influences interpretation. Personally, I choose not to engage with that prejudiced individual, Nigel. | |||
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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. It's not illegal to seek asylum " Unless you are brown or Muslim. Then they can {insert boring phrase here} | |||
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"10 boats 573 came yesterday That's another 4 5star hotels Full for the next 5yrs at taxpayers expense - Do the sums" 5 star hotels aye? The slough premier inn? Are you unable to give any critical thought to what you read online? | |||
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"It is truly remarkable to witness the individual here juxtaposing the arrival of two rubber boats with the Nazi assaults of World War II. At times, one might consider Nigel to be over the top, yet upon observing his fans, it becomes evident that they are utterly incensed and equally oblivious. "Two rubber boats"?????? Some days there are between 500 and a 1000 people coming over so I think it is a bit more than the two rubber boats you say. Or was you talking about a specific 30 minute time slot? I don't think anyone is suggesting they are coming over with machine guns and hand-grenades. However they do seem to expect us to house them, feed them etc. at great expense, and ultimately absorb them into our society. Personally I detest Nigel and his acolyte party but they do have a point on this issue. Eight rubber boats reached the UK within a week; I was magnanimous in stating it was merely two. Please refrain from categorizing all of them as illegal, as you are undoubtedly unaware of the nuances of international law. The UK government must address this situation, rather than labeling them as invaders and advocating for their demise or repatriation. What on earth? I think it is more like eight a day subject to weather and crossing conditions. I am aware of international law but why are they leaving France? Is France an unsafe country? Is France either in a state of civil war or at war with another country? Is France a totalitarian dictatorship where these people are in serious danger of their lives? Yes some may be genuine asylum seekers but a lot are economic migrants hoping for a cushy life over here. Don't think anyone is really calling for their demise but you can understand people calling for their repatriation." No, that is not correct.. I examined the government websites and noted that merely 7 boats arrived within a single week. The last update was on the 11th of July. The weather was splendid as well. Asylum seekers can travel across multiple borders to seek asylum, and this is generally not a violation of international law. Hope that does make sense. | |||
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"Facts. Let's use the boat which Nigel happened to witness yesterday. 78 onboard. 1 woman 3 children 74 males. So let's drop all this families and children bull shit. In the recent migrant boat sinking in the English Channel, twelve people died, including six children and a pregnant woman. The boat, carrying dozens of migrants, capsized off the French coast near Boulogne-sur-Mer. Ten of the deceased were female, and two were Male. Bullshit ????The perspective from which one views the news significantly influences interpretation. Personally, I choose not to engage with that prejudiced individual, Nigel. " Yes. Bull shit I trust his figures over your selective bias. | |||
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"Facts. Let's use the boat which Nigel happened to witness yesterday. 78 onboard. 1 woman 3 children 74 males. So let's drop all this families and children bull shit. " Ooh I wonder why little old Nigel picked out that boat then 🤔 | |||
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"It is truly remarkable to witness the individual here juxtaposing the arrival of two rubber boats with the Nazi assaults of World War II. At times, one might consider Nigel to be over the top, yet upon observing his fans, it becomes evident that they are utterly incensed and equally oblivious. "Two rubber boats"?????? Some days there are between 500 and a 1000 people coming over so I think it is a bit more than the two rubber boats you say. Or was you talking about a specific 30 minute time slot? I don't think anyone is suggesting they are coming over with machine guns and hand-grenades. However they do seem to expect us to house them, feed them etc. at great expense, and ultimately absorb them into our society. Personally I detest Nigel and his acolyte party but they do have a point on this issue. Eight rubber boats reached the UK within a week; I was magnanimous in stating it was merely two. Please refrain from categorizing all of them as illegal, as you are undoubtedly unaware of the nuances of international law. The UK government must address this situation, rather than labeling them as invaders and advocating for their demise or repatriation. What on earth? I think it is more like eight a day subject to weather and crossing conditions. I am aware of international law but why are they leaving France? Is France an unsafe country? Is France either in a state of civil war or at war with another country? Is France a totalitarian dictatorship where these people are in serious danger of their lives? Yes some may be genuine asylum seekers but a lot are economic migrants hoping for a cushy life over here. Don't think anyone is really calling for their demise but you can understand people calling for their repatriation. No, that is not correct.. I examined the government websites and noted that merely 7 boats arrived within a single week. The last update was on the 11th of July. The weather was splendid as well. Asylum seekers can travel across multiple borders to seek asylum, and this is generally not a violation of international law. Hope that does make sense. " Check again - Small boat arrivals last 7 days: - Gov.uk | |||
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"10 boats 573 came yesterday That's another 4 5star hotels Full for the next 5yrs at taxpayers expense - Do the sums" Don't ask Diane or Rachel... | |||
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"Another bird brain idear from this government Maybe if these boat people knew within 24hours of arriving in uk they would be on a plane to the Falklands isle, they wouldn't come Or Rwanda? Cus that idea was fucking brilliant, right? Falklands being British cuts out the not safe country argument used by lawyers It certainly does. Falklands is arguably safer than parts of UK. If one of these new arrivals finds themselves in NI they could end up on top of a bonfire! Very few bonfires in the Falklands, just sheep. " Sheep goats , they be in Heaven . | |||
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"They need to stop fannying about and let the navy do their job and properly protect our borders. That's what we pay them to do. So what do you want the Navy to do - Blow them out of the water killing the lot of them? Some how I think there would be a mutiny on any vessel where the order was given to open fire on unarmed civilians and quite rightly too." ..... I wonder how many people are thinking the answer should be a 3 letter answer.... just an observation! | |||
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"They need to stop fannying about and let the navy do their job and properly protect our borders. That's what we pay them to do. So what do you want the Navy to do - Blow them out of the water killing the lot of them? Some how I think there would be a mutiny on any vessel where the order was given to open fire on unarmed civilians and quite rightly too...... I wonder how many people are thinking the answer should be a 3 letter answer.... just an observation!" I would like to think you are in the minority. | |||
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"They need to stop fannying about and let the navy do their job and properly protect our borders. That's what we pay them to do. So what do you want the Navy to do - Blow them out of the water killing the lot of them? Some how I think there would be a mutiny on any vessel where the order was given to open fire on unarmed civilians and quite rightly too...... I wonder how many people are thinking the answer should be a 3 letter answer.... just an observation! I would like to think you are in the minority. " Did I say I was thinking that? Erm NO is the answer. Read what I said again. | |||
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"They need to stop fannying about and let the navy do their job and properly protect our borders. That's what we pay them to do. So what do you want the Navy to do - Blow them out of the water killing the lot of them? Some how I think there would be a mutiny on any vessel where the order was given to open fire on unarmed civilians and quite rightly too...... I wonder how many people are thinking the answer should be a 3 letter answer.... just an observation! I would like to think you are in the minority. Did I say I was thinking that? Erm NO is the answer. Read what I said again. " No of course you didn’t so apologies and I shall rephrase. I would like to think that they (and most certainly not you) are in the minority. | |||
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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. Those who breach UK borders are nothing less than invaders, and it's imperative that we uphold our nation's sovereignty. We've defended these islands throughout history with unwavering resolve; it's time to stand firm once more – no exceptions, no excuses. 🇬🇧 No one has crossed the borders of other nations quite like the UK? Delve into your history. Equally too, no other country has given the world and its people the many gifts that Britain has. Yes, certainly, please do delve into your history – it's a splendid idea! You might just discover the depth of British contributions that have shaped the modern world! You are attempting to shift the discussion, a matter in which I have no desire to engage." Mr Chubbs, I'm most certainly an not trying to shift the discussion; it was yourself who introduced the diversion of the UK crossing international borders. I was responding to that particular point regarding British history. It seems further exploration isn't something you're interested in pursuing, undoubtedly because it would underscore the significantly mammoth global contributions Britain has made, along with the complexities and achievements that would be highlighted. | |||
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"One out ten in If they are legal they have all full blown right to everything as illegals are . But have right to family life once here, due to Human rights law Meaning wife children ,Grandparents sister brothers would be entitled to come here . So that cost few shillings and housing. Lucky they all live same house . This idea is as stupid as many others . My idea best use high speed skip boats, to turn them back . They have French boats to pick them up stop them entering British waters . Instead picking them up bringing the invaders here ." Individuals were largely unaware of the implications of invaders until the British Empire disrupted the world, having invaded 171 out of the 193 current UN member states, which constitutes nearly 90% of the globe's nations. | |||
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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. It's not illegal to seek asylum " But France is not a dangerous country | |||
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"They need to stop fannying about and let the navy do their job and properly protect our borders. That's what we pay them to do. So what do you want the Navy to do - Blow them out of the water killing the lot of them? Some how I think there would be a mutiny on any vessel where the order was given to open fire on unarmed civilians and quite rightly too...... I wonder how many people are thinking the answer should be a 3 letter answer.... just an observation! I would like to think you are in the minority. Did I say I was thinking that? Erm NO is the answer. Read what I said again. No of course you didn’t so apologies and I shall rephrase. I would like to think that they (and most certainly not you) are in the minority. " Thank you and I accept your apology. | |||
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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. Those who breach UK borders are nothing less than invaders, and it's imperative that we uphold our nation's sovereignty. We've defended these islands throughout history with unwavering resolve; it's time to stand firm once more – no exceptions, no excuses. 🇬🇧 Jesus, hi Nigel!
A man not as great as Jesus but certainly far greater than Nigel:-
"...we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be." -
WLSC - 4th June, 1940. 🇬🇧
"Defend" from who exactly? Your language is inflammatory and to say we're being "invaded" is very 1930s Germany in tone. Ironic since you're quoting Churchill!
Would you perhaps kindly highlight the particular words you so construe as being 'inflammatory'?
The phrase 'defend our island' seems rather straightforward, given our geographical reality.
As for the word 'invaded,' it's a perfectly fitting description when discussing the huge strain on our resources and infrastructure due to uncontrolled immigration. I don't see any particular German inference from the word "invaded" it's a term that applies to any unwarranted influx.
Perhaps the issue lies not in the language, but in the uncomfortable truths it conveys?
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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. Those who breach UK borders are nothing less than invaders, and it's imperative that we uphold our nation's sovereignty. We've defended these islands throughout history with unwavering resolve; it's time to stand firm once more – no exceptions, no excuses. 🇬🇧 No one has crossed the borders of other nations quite like the UK? Delve into your history. Equally too, no other country has given the world and its people the many gifts that Britain has. Yes, certainly, please do delve into your history – it's a splendid idea! You might just discover the depth of British contributions that have shaped the modern world! You are attempting to shift the discussion, a matter in which I have no desire to engage. Mr Chubbs, I'm most certainly an not trying to shift the discussion; it was yourself who introduced the diversion of the UK crossing international borders. I was responding to that particular point regarding British history. It seems further exploration isn't something you're interested in pursuing, undoubtedly because it would underscore the significantly mammoth global contributions Britain has made, along with the complexities and achievements that would be highlighted." I am _hubslover btw . You have undoubtedly shifted the topic, compelling me to engage with it. I am curious about the number of nations that have faced invasion by the British army throughout history. Additionally, how much free gas and oil has been delivered to your territory since the era of the British Empire? To label the occupants of rubber boats as invaders is so disgraceful that I would prefer not to even entertain the notion of discussing it. | |||
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"One out ten in If they are legal they have all full blown right to everything as illegals are . But have right to family life once here, due to Human rights law Meaning wife children ,Grandparents sister brothers would be entitled to come here . So that cost few shillings and housing. Lucky they all live same house . This idea is as stupid as many others . My idea best use high speed skip boats, to turn them back . They have French boats to pick them up stop them entering British waters . Instead picking them up bringing the invaders here . Individuals were largely unaware of the implications of invaders until the British Empire disrupted the world, having invaded 171 out of the 193 current UN member states, which constitutes nearly 90% of the globe's nations. " So many countries had empires. The Ottomans and the Persian empires also invaded lots of countries. They took hundreds of thousands of prisoners too. But they Castrated ALL of them. | |||
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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. It's not illegal to seek asylum But France is not a dangerous country" Asylum seekers can travel across multiple borders to seek asylum, and this is generally not a violation of international law. | |||
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"One out ten in If they are legal they have all full blown right to everything as illegals are . But have right to family life once here, due to Human rights law Meaning wife children ,Grandparents sister brothers would be entitled to come here . So that cost few shillings and housing. Lucky they all live same house . This idea is as stupid as many others . My idea best use high speed skip boats, to turn them back . They have French boats to pick them up stop them entering British waters . Instead picking them up bringing the invaders here . Individuals were largely unaware of the implications of invaders until the British Empire disrupted the world, having invaded 171 out of the 193 current UN member states, which constitutes nearly 90% of the globe's nations. So many countries had empires. The Ottomans and the Persian empires also invaded lots of countries. They took hundreds of thousands of prisoners too. But they Castrated ALL of them. " Why concern yourself with two rubber boats when you have previously invaded 90 percent of nations? Therefore, at the very least, show respect for international law if you intend to erase history. | |||
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"Take away the benefits - Will they still come? " Exactly this
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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. Those who breach UK borders are nothing less than invaders, and it's imperative that we uphold our nation's sovereignty. We've defended these islands throughout history with unwavering resolve; it's time to stand firm once more – no exceptions, no excuses. 🇬🇧 No one has crossed the borders of other nations quite like the UK? Delve into your history. Equally too, no other country has given the world and its people the many gifts that Britain has. Yes, certainly, please do delve into your history – it's a splendid idea! You might just discover the depth of British contributions that have shaped the modern world! You are attempting to shift the discussion, a matter in which I have no desire to engage. Mr Chubbs, I'm most certainly an not trying to shift the discussion; it was yourself who introduced the diversion of the UK crossing international borders. I was responding to that particular point regarding British history. It seems further exploration isn't something you're interested in pursuing, undoubtedly because it would underscore the significantly mammoth global contributions Britain has made, along with the complexities and achievements that would be highlighted. I am _hubslover btw . You have undoubtedly shifted the topic, compelling me to engage with it. I am curious about the number of nations that have faced invasion by the British army throughout history. Additionally, how much free gas and oil has been delivered to your territory since the era of the British Empire? To label the occupants of rubber boats as invaders is so disgraceful that I would prefer not to even entertain the notion of discussing it." My apologies _hubslover btw, I hope I've used your correct chosen nom-de-plume now. Regarding the ongoing discussion, I respect your decision to withdraw from further engagement, and assure you that I haven't compelled you to engage, you did so entirely of your own free will, devoid of pressure on my part, it certainly wasn't intended to be so, even if you have mistakenly assumed it to be the case. However, I reiterate that individuals arriving on our shores without proper documentation or invitation pose significant challenges. The strain on our economy and infrastructure is substantial. Unfortunately, it appears that politicians often prioritise popularity over effective solutions, hindering meaningful progress on this issue. | |||
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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. Those who breach UK borders are nothing less than invaders, and it's imperative that we uphold our nation's sovereignty. We've defended these islands throughout history with unwavering resolve; it's time to stand firm once more – no exceptions, no excuses. 🇬🇧 No one has crossed the borders of other nations quite like the UK? Delve into your history. Equally too, no other country has given the world and its people the many gifts that Britain has. Yes, certainly, please do delve into your history – it's a splendid idea! You might just discover the depth of British contributions that have shaped the modern world! You are attempting to shift the discussion, a matter in which I have no desire to engage. Mr Chubbs, I'm most certainly an not trying to shift the discussion; it was yourself who introduced the diversion of the UK crossing international borders. I was responding to that particular point regarding British history. It seems further exploration isn't something you're interested in pursuing, undoubtedly because it would underscore the significantly mammoth global contributions Britain has made, along with the complexities and achievements that would be highlighted. I am _hubslover btw . You have undoubtedly shifted the topic, compelling me to engage with it. I am curious about the number of nations that have faced invasion by the British army throughout history. Additionally, how much free gas and oil has been delivered to your territory since the era of the British Empire? To label the occupants of rubber boats as invaders is so disgraceful that I would prefer not to even entertain the notion of discussing it. My apologies _hubslover btw, I hope I've used your correct chosen nom-de-plume now. Regarding the ongoing discussion, I respect your decision to withdraw from further engagement, and assure you that I haven't compelled you to engage, you did so entirely of your own free will, devoid of pressure on my part, it certainly wasn't intended to be so, even if you have mistakenly assumed it to be the case. However, I reiterate that individuals arriving on our shores without proper documentation or invitation pose significant challenges. The strain on our economy and infrastructure is substantial. Unfortunately, it appears that politicians often prioritise popularity over effective solutions, hindering meaningful progress on this issue." There is no necessity for an apology. I was merely curious about the origin of the name Mr. Chubbs. I also only referred to your rather inexpensive remark concerning the labeling of individuals as invaders, rather than examining your own history to identify who the true invader is. When Mo Farah, a three-time Olympic champion, arrived in this country, he too did not possess the appropriate documentation. What impact did he have on the economy? | |||
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"A thousand years ago some dudes invaded, so you should be cool with a reduction in your living standards now." And you think the people who only have what they can carry on their backs are responsible for your reduction in living standards? Seriously? | |||
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"These idiots who call immigrants "invaders" seem to forget that since 1066, many of us are descended from actual invaders! " So what are they then? Debatable as to whether 1066 was a good or bad thing. If you were a Saxon at the time then a very bad thing. But that is all in the past. Things have changed over the centuries and now were have far too large a population as it is, plus a housing crisis and a barely sustainable infrastructure. If you are happy to house hundred of boat people from 3rd world countries in your house and look after them, then fair enough. | |||
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"If taxes are being spent on housing, feeding, clothing, policing (etc.) them rather than being spent on citizens, then yes. Obviously." That's not obvious it's daft. Think about what you're saying. Governments don't cough up for poor people, they do it for the rich. The people who get them in power. The people who line their campaign coffers. The rich (and I don't mean lawyers, doctors, high court judges, I mean people with 10 million quid in the bank) are the reason you can't buy a house on an average wage, not the poor. Be anti immigration by all means, but don't tell me immigrants are to blame for wealth inequality across the entire western world, for the past 40 years, when they can't influence monetary policy, don't control assets, lobbyists and political parties. That's just silly. | |||
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"These idiots who call immigrants "invaders" seem to forget that since 1066, many of us are descended from actual invaders! So what are they then? Debatable as to whether 1066 was a good or bad thing. If you were a Saxon at the time then a very bad thing. But that is all in the past. Things have changed over the centuries and now were have far too large a population as it is, plus a housing crisis and a barely sustainable infrastructure. If you are happy to house hundred of boat people from 3rd world countries in your house and look after them, then fair enough." How could they possibly be considered invaders? It is clearly not linked to any military or violent incursions. Unless, of course, you wish to present us with a new definition altogether. | |||
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"These idiots who call immigrants "invaders" seem to forget that since 1066, many of us are descended from actual invaders! So what are they then? Debatable as to whether 1066 was a good or bad thing. If you were a Saxon at the time then a very bad thing. But that is all in the past. Things have changed over the centuries and now were have far too large a population as it is, plus a housing crisis and a barely sustainable infrastructure. If you are happy to house hundred of boat people from 3rd world countries in your house and look after them, then fair enough." ... ... 🏴 In a single gaff? Eh? It's not the responsibility of citizens to house asylum seekers.It never has been and never will be 🏴 | |||
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"These idiots who call immigrants "invaders" seem to forget that since 1066, many of us are descended from actual invaders! So what are they then? Debatable as to whether 1066 was a good or bad thing. If you were a Saxon at the time then a very bad thing. But that is all in the past. Things have changed over the centuries and now were have far too large a population as it is, plus a housing crisis and a barely sustainable infrastructure. If you are happy to house hundred of boat people from 3rd world countries in your house and look after them, then fair enough. How could they possibly be considered invaders? It is clearly not linked to any military or violent incursions. Unless, of course, you wish to present us with a new definition altogether." I rather think you are struggling with the definition of the word. Invasion is not limited to a military incursion. We talk about an invasion of aphids in out gardens, or even worse and invasion of Japanese knot. Invasion simply means someone or something coming in uninvited and unwanted. | |||
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"These idiots who call immigrants "invaders" seem to forget that since 1066, many of us are descended from actual invaders! So what are they then? Debatable as to whether 1066 was a good or bad thing. If you were a Saxon at the time then a very bad thing. But that is all in the past. Things have changed over the centuries and now were have far too large a population as it is, plus a housing crisis and a barely sustainable infrastructure. If you are happy to house hundred of boat people from 3rd world countries in your house and look after them, then fair enough. How could they possibly be considered invaders? It is clearly not linked to any military or violent incursions. Unless, of course, you wish to present us with a new definition altogether. I rather think you are struggling with the definition of the word. Invasion is not limited to a military incursion. We talk about an invasion of aphids in out gardens, or even worse and invasion of Japanese knot. Invasion simply means someone or something coming in uninvited and unwanted." If someone inquires about the invaders of Britain, would you mention the aphids in the gardens of the people, or would you elaborate on the Roman conquest of Britain, the Viking expansion, the Norman Conquest, the Anglo-Norman invasion of Ireland, and the Glorious Revolution? | |||
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" Be anti immigration by all means, but don't tell me immigrants are to blame for wealth inequality across the entire western world, for the past 40 years, when they can't influence monetary policy, don't control assets, lobbyists and political parties. That's just silly." Who said anything about immigration being to blame for wealth inequality? Nice strawman lol. | |||
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"No… I’m not talking about cock, I’m talking about the planned arrangements between the UK and France. If there are 1000 illegals who make it to the UK In rubber boats and they are all sent back to France, then we take 1000 asylum seekers in return, how will that some the hotels being used £10, million per day being paid out of the taxpayers money, demand on public housing / services??? Now other members of the EU are objecting to France even thinking about it. Each day Labour seem to shout themselves in the foot. All illegals should be deported end of. Those who breach UK borders are nothing less than invaders, and it's imperative that we uphold our nation's sovereignty. We've defended these islands throughout history with unwavering resolve; it's time to stand firm once more – no exceptions, no excuses. 🇬🇧 " .... ... 🏴Satire? If only. The vernacular reeks of a cringe-worthy authoritarianism. Doodlebugs are not raining down on the white cliffs of dover. When Cruella, Patel and May were making a pigs ear, were you so vehement in your polemic? Obviously not. 🏴 | |||
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" Be anti immigration by all means, but don't tell me immigrants are to blame for wealth inequality across the entire western world, for the past 40 years, when they can't influence monetary policy, don't control assets, lobbyists and political parties. That's just silly. Who said anything about immigration being to blame for wealth inequality? Nice strawman lol." You did: "A thousand years ago some dudes invaded, so you should be cool with a reduction in your living standards now." 23 hours ago | |||
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" How could they possibly be considered invaders? It is clearly not linked to any military or violent incursions. Unless, of course, you wish to present us with a new definition altogether. I rather think you are struggling with the definition of the word. Invasion is not limited to a military incursion. We talk about an invasion of aphids in out gardens, or even worse and invasion of Japanese knot. Invasion simply means someone or something coming in uninvited and unwanted. If someone inquires about the invaders of Britain, would you mention the aphids in the gardens of the people, or would you elaborate on the Roman conquest of Britain, the Viking expansion, the Norman Conquest, the Anglo-Norman invasion of Ireland, and the Glorious Revolution?" Okay. So what do we call them ? Certainly not invited or welcome guests [unless you are the much lamented SJ who has them queuing at the door of her luxury Bristolian penthouse] Perhaps INTRUDERS. | |||
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" How could they possibly be considered invaders? It is clearly not linked to any military or violent incursions. Unless, of course, you wish to present us with a new definition altogether. I rather think you are struggling with the definition of the word. Invasion is not limited to a military incursion. We talk about an invasion of aphids in out gardens, or even worse and invasion of Japanese knot. Invasion simply means someone or something coming in uninvited and unwanted. If someone inquires about the invaders of Britain, would you mention the aphids in the gardens of the people, or would you elaborate on the Roman conquest of Britain, the Viking expansion, the Norman Conquest, the Anglo-Norman invasion of Ireland, and the Glorious Revolution? Okay. So what do we call them ? Certainly not invited or welcome guests [unless you are the much lamented SJ who has them queuing at the door of her luxury Bristolian penthouse] Perhaps INTRUDERS." Nomads seems fitting, or maybe just keeping it as it is, asylum seekers and refugees with a few chancers thrown in to the mix. Who is this SJ, he sounds like he knows how to have a good time. | |||
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"SJ. She is a forum legend who was recently treated most heinously. Comeback imminent though.. 🍀🏴🍀🏴" Thanks for the info, look forward to hearing more about his mis-adventures here soon then. New to the forums but judging by what you wrote I guess there is an element of Green eyed monster induced bullying in these forums? | |||
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"No worries and welcome to the matrix! Social media innit." Thanks, I’ve experienced it in other forums over the years but assumed this being a same-ish people looking for same-ish things it would not really be a thing. | |||
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"We are a broad church.... If you are a fan of political debate prepare to be blown away....The analysis of the first year of Starmerism has been quite.... something....😭" My eye has already caught a few threads of that vein! The less said about some of the political commentary I have read, the better 🤣 | |||
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"We are a broad church.... If you are a fan of political debate prepare to be blown away....The analysis of the first year of Starmerism has been quite.... something....😭 My eye has already caught a few threads of that vein! The less said about some of the political commentary I have read, the better 🤣" Yep there are still some people on here who think Starmer is doing well  | |||
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"We are a broad church.... If you are a fan of political debate prepare to be blown away....The analysis of the first year of Starmerism has been quite.... something....😭 My eye has already caught a few threads of that vein! The less said about some of the political commentary I have read, the better 🤣 Yep there are still some people on here who think Starmer is doing well "I guess it’s a matter of perception isn’t it. Who knows what the situation would have been like with another leader or another party in charge. The blues pretty much put us in the position where some drastic action was needed, maybe not all policies and actions have been great this far but there is no magic money tree as we well know. If you put a rational hat on you cannot disagree that the country was in a state of free fall and the blues had pretty much given up on trying to fix any issues for at least a year before there was a new party in charge. You can’t go from free fall to a steady climb, especially with something like the asylum seeker issue, in a matter of months. Maybe if it was the only thing needing rectifying something could be done sooner, but alas it was/is not the only thing that needs rectifying. Education, NHS, infrastructure etc are all in a sorry state. | |||
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"Selective amnesia is an issue with those who forget soooo many tories held their hands up in the aftermath of their tanking last july and admitted it had went Pete Tong. And them some. Allegiance dictates. Indeed this works both ways but those who have been critical of Labour have struggled to come to terms with the obvious fact: Labour inherited a mess...." To be honest I don’t know if it is all amnesia, there are a cadre of people for whom a Tory government is very profitable and who exercise considerable influence on others for whom it is disastrous but who would like to see themselves as the first group. Therefore both groups will carp and lie and be disingenuous in whatever way it takes to undermine anyone who gets in the way of a Tory hegemony. I think a lot of what we are seeing is directly attributable to that, alongside the amnesia which I agree is very prevalent. | |||
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"Selective amnesia as practiced by forum analysts with a hard-on for the blues and froggy's ghastly outfit.... " A good many of 'we blues' accepted things had gone badly wrong in the last couple of years of the last government. We were even, very grudgingly, prepared to give Starmer a chance though, after a year in power, he and his cohorts still seem to be wandering around like headless chickens. As for froggy Farage we have absolutely no time for him. | |||
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"Selective amnesia as practiced by forum analysts with a hard-on for the blues and froggy's ghastly outfit.... A good many of 'we blues' accepted things had gone badly wrong in the last couple of years of the last government. We were even, very grudgingly, prepared to give Starmer a chance though, after a year in power, he and his cohorts still seem to be wandering around like headless chickens. As for froggy Farage we have absolutely no time for him. " You might have to when he becomes leader of the Conservative Party. | |||
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"Selective amnesia as practiced by forum analysts with a hard-on for the blues and froggy's ghastly outfit.... A good many of 'we blues' accepted things had gone badly wrong in the last couple of years of the last government. We were even, very grudgingly, prepared to give Starmer a chance though, after a year in power, he and his cohorts still seem to be wandering around like headless chickens. As for froggy Farage we have absolutely no time for him. You might have to when he becomes leader of the Conservative Party. " That will make my dual nationality a golden ticket out of here! | |||
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"Selective amnesia as practiced by forum analysts with a hard-on for the blues and froggy's ghastly outfit.... A good many of 'we blues' accepted things had gone badly wrong in the last couple of years of the last government. We were even, very grudgingly, prepared to give Starmer a chance though, after a year in power, he and his cohorts still seem to be wandering around like headless chickens. As for froggy Farage we have absolutely no time for him. You might have to when he becomes leader of the Conservative Party. " In the unlikely event of that happening I would resign my party membership. | |||
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"Selective amnesia as practiced by forum analysts with a hard-on for the blues and froggy's ghastly outfit.... A good many of 'we blues' accepted things had gone badly wrong in the last couple of years of the last government. We were even, very grudgingly, prepared to give Starmer a chance though, after a year in power, he and his cohorts still seem to be wandering around like headless chickens. As for froggy Farage we have absolutely no time for him. You might have to when he becomes leader of the Conservative Party. In the unlikely event of that happening I would resign my party membership. " I don’t think it’s that unlikely. Reform are absolutely out of control and the Tory party has shown it will do whatever it takes to make the party prosper, no matter the cost to the country who exist to give it something to rule, so when the reform bandwagon finally careers off the road, and Kemi’s absolute lack of leadership gets too much, it’s obvious what the outcome will be. Much to the detriment of the last vestiges of genuine circumspect conservatism left in the party, and massively to the detriment of the people of the UK, but that never worried the Tory party, as long as they get power. | |||
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"Selective amnesia as practiced by forum analysts with a hard-on for the blues and froggy's ghastly outfit.... A good many of 'we blues' accepted things had gone badly wrong in the last couple of years of the last government. We were even, very grudgingly, prepared to give Starmer a chance though, after a year in power, he and his cohorts still seem to be wandering around like headless chickens. As for froggy Farage we have absolutely no time for him. You might have to when he becomes leader of the Conservative Party. In the unlikely event of that happening I would resign my party membership. " And so Labour supporters carry on about Farage, but cannot manage to give support to Starmer. Labour are clearly worried about Farage so set about name-calling him. This will only become more intense as Labour slip in the polls and unemployment and inflation continue to rise... | |||
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"Selective amnesia as practiced by forum analysts with a hard-on for the blues and froggy's ghastly outfit.... A good many of 'we blues' accepted things had gone badly wrong in the last couple of years of the last government. We were even, very grudgingly, prepared to give Starmer a chance though, after a year in power, he and his cohorts still seem to be wandering around like headless chickens. As for froggy Farage we have absolutely no time for him. You might have to when he becomes leader of the Conservative Party. In the unlikely event of that happening I would resign my party membership. And so Labour supporters carry on about Farage, but cannot manage to give support to Starmer. Labour are clearly worried about Farage so set about name-calling him. This will only become more intense as Labour slip in the polls and unemployment and inflation continue to rise..." I believe the gentleman who wrote ‘Froggy Farage’ above is a proud (literal) card carrying member of the Conservative Party. | |||
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" Be anti immigration by all means, but don't tell me immigrants are to blame for wealth inequality across the entire western world, for the past 40 years, when they can't influence monetary policy, don't control assets, lobbyists and political parties. That's just silly. Who said anything about immigration being to blame for wealth inequality? Nice strawman lol. You did: "A thousand years ago some dudes invaded, so you should be cool with a reduction in your living standards now." 23 hours ago" No I didn't. That wasn't what I was talking about at all. You're flailing at windmills. | |||
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" As for froggy Farage we have absolutely no time for him. You might have to when he becomes leader of the Conservative Party. In the unlikely event of that happening I would resign my party membership. I don’t think it’s that unlikely. Reform are absolutely out of control and the Tory party has shown it will do whatever it takes to make the party prosper, no matter the cost to the country who exist to give it something to rule, so when the reform bandwagon finally careers off the road, and Kemi’s absolute lack of leadership gets too much, it’s obvious what the outcome will be. Much to the detriment of the last vestiges of genuine circumspect conservatism left in the party, and massively to the detriment of the people of the UK, but that never worried the Tory party, as long as they get power." Who knows what will happen. The Faragista are riding high in opinion polls as the moment but we are still four long years off a general election. As Lord Mandelson [a wise old bird if a somewhat sinister character] said: Reform may have peaked too soon. Dissent in their camp, failures by their new councils etc might bring a halt to their prolific rise. Several fairly minor ex Conservative MPs have joined Reform but the Farage has stated that he would not welcome some of the 'big hitters' like Suella Braverman. Probably because he knows she wouldn't be a fawning acolyte to his megalomania. Not sure what to make of Kemi. Amazed the party elected her. Clever lady but has made little impact outside the Commons. Is she playing a long game or was the party playing a long game and just making her a temporary leader? It is possible that the two parties could amalgamate or at least come to an electoral agreement. They say a week is a long time in politics. Four years could be an eternity. | |||
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"Selective amnesia as practiced by forum analysts with a hard-on for the blues and froggy's ghastly outfit.... A good many of 'we blues' accepted things had gone badly wrong in the last couple of years of the last government. We were even, very grudgingly, prepared to give Starmer a chance though, after a year in power, he and his cohorts still seem to be wandering around like headless chickens. As for froggy Farage we have absolutely no time for him. " ... 🏴 Headless chickens? Who? What makes you think this? 🏴 | |||
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"Selective amnesia as practiced by forum analysts with a hard-on for the blues and froggy's ghastly outfit.... A good many of 'we blues' accepted things had gone badly wrong in the last couple of years of the last government. We were even, very grudgingly, prepared to give Starmer a chance though, after a year in power, he and his cohorts still seem to be wandering around like headless chickens. As for froggy Farage we have absolutely no time for him. ... 🏴 Headless chickens? Who? What makes you think this? 🏴" Like I said I was only ever going to give Starmer and Co my rather grudging 'benefit of the doubt'. In other words see if they could improve things. So far no impressed. Starmer has hardly shown himself as being an impressive, strong leader. Some of his ministers:- Reeves, Lammy, Miliband; seem a bit clueless or incompetent. Quite a lot of embarrassing u-turns. Okay we don't expect miracles in their first year but things are not exactly looking good. | |||
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" As for froggy Farage we have absolutely no time for him. You might have to when he becomes leader of the Conservative Party. In the unlikely event of that happening I would resign my party membership. I don’t think it’s that unlikely. Reform are absolutely out of control and the Tory party has shown it will do whatever it takes to make the party prosper, no matter the cost to the country who exist to give it something to rule, so when the reform bandwagon finally careers off the road, and Kemi’s absolute lack of leadership gets too much, it’s obvious what the outcome will be. Much to the detriment of the last vestiges of genuine circumspect conservatism left in the party, and massively to the detriment of the people of the UK, but that never worried the Tory party, as long as they get power. Who knows what will happen. The Faragista are riding high in opinion polls as the moment but we are still four long years off a general election. As Lord Mandelson [a wise old bird if a somewhat sinister character] said: Reform may have peaked too soon. Dissent in their camp, failures by their new councils etc might bring a halt to their prolific rise. Several fairly minor ex Conservative MPs have joined Reform but the Farage has stated that he would not welcome some of the 'big hitters' like Suella Braverman. Probably because he knows she wouldn't be a fawning acolyte to his megalomania. Not sure what to make of Kemi. Amazed the party elected her. Clever lady but has made little impact outside the Commons. Is she playing a long game or was the party playing a long game and just making her a temporary leader? It is possible that the two parties could amalgamate or at least come to an electoral agreement. They say a week is a long time in politics. Four years could be an eternity." Mandelson is a sinister creature indeed but one thing he rarely is, is wrong. We shall see. I remember the last Tory defeat and it precipitated a series of frankly fucking useless leaders until they found one who could gain traction. I suspect we are here again. | |||
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" As for froggy Farage we have absolutely no time for him. You might have to when he becomes leader of the Conservative Party. In the unlikely event of that happening I would resign my party membership. I don’t think it’s that unlikely. Reform are absolutely out of control and the Tory party has shown it will do whatever it takes to make the party prosper, no matter the cost to the country who exist to give it something to rule, so when the reform bandwagon finally careers off the road, and Kemi’s absolute lack of leadership gets too much, it’s obvious what the outcome will be. Much to the detriment of the last vestiges of genuine circumspect conservatism left in the party, and massively to the detriment of the people of the UK, but that never worried the Tory party, as long as they get power. Who knows what will happen. The Faragista are riding high in opinion polls as the moment but we are still four long years off a general election. As Lord Mandelson [a wise old bird if a somewhat sinister character] said: Reform may have peaked too soon. Dissent in their camp, failures by their new councils etc might bring a halt to their prolific rise. Several fairly minor ex Conservative MPs have joined Reform but the Farage has stated that he would not welcome some of the 'big hitters' like Suella Braverman. Probably because he knows she wouldn't be a fawning acolyte to his megalomania. Not sure what to make of Kemi. Amazed the party elected her. Clever lady but has made little impact outside the Commons. Is she playing a long game or was the party playing a long game and just making her a temporary leader? It is possible that the two parties could amalgamate or at least come to an electoral agreement. They say a week is a long time in politics. Four years could be an eternity. Mandelson is a sinister creature indeed but one thing he rarely is, is wrong. We shall see. I remember the last Tory defeat and it precipitated a series of frankly fucking useless leaders until they found one who could gain traction. I suspect we are here again. " Much of what has gone above applies to the Labour Party ie do anything to get into power. 14 years in Opposition, told us all they were ready for Govenrment and clearly they had not used those 14 years wisely. Hence the current omnishables | |||
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" As for froggy Farage we have absolutely no time for him. You might have to when he becomes leader of the Conservative Party. In the unlikely event of that happening I would resign my party membership. I don’t think it’s that unlikely. Reform are absolutely out of control and the Tory party has shown it will do whatever it takes to make the party prosper, no matter the cost to the country who exist to give it something to rule, so when the reform bandwagon finally careers off the road, and Kemi’s absolute lack of leadership gets too much, it’s obvious what the outcome will be. Much to the detriment of the last vestiges of genuine circumspect conservatism left in the party, and massively to the detriment of the people of the UK, but that never worried the Tory party, as long as they get power. Who knows what will happen. The Faragista are riding high in opinion polls as the moment but we are still four long years off a general election. As Lord Mandelson [a wise old bird if a somewhat sinister character] said: Reform may have peaked too soon. Dissent in their camp, failures by their new councils etc might bring a halt to their prolific rise. Several fairly minor ex Conservative MPs have joined Reform but the Farage has stated that he would not welcome some of the 'big hitters' like Suella Braverman. Probably because he knows she wouldn't be a fawning acolyte to his megalomania. Not sure what to make of Kemi. Amazed the party elected her. Clever lady but has made little impact outside the Commons. Is she playing a long game or was the party playing a long game and just making her a temporary leader? It is possible that the two parties could amalgamate or at least come to an electoral agreement. They say a week is a long time in politics. Four years could be an eternity. Mandelson is a sinister creature indeed but one thing he rarely is, is wrong. We shall see. I remember the last Tory defeat and it precipitated a series of frankly fucking useless leaders until they found one who could gain traction. I suspect we are here again. Much of what has gone above applies to the Labour Party ie do anything to get into power. 14 years in Opposition, told us all they were ready for Govenrment and clearly they had not used those 14 years wisely. Hence the current omnishables" Ok. It’s pretty normal for partisans to hear an insult of their team and to shout “they are just as bad” But it doesn’t convey any real meaning apart from your partisanship. | |||
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" As for froggy Farage we have absolutely no time for him. You might have to when he becomes leader of the Conservative Party. In the unlikely event of that happening I would resign my party membership. I don’t think it’s that unlikely. Reform are absolutely out of control and the Tory party has shown it will do whatever it takes to make the party prosper, no matter the cost to the country who exist to give it something to rule, so when the reform bandwagon finally careers off the road, and Kemi’s absolute lack of leadership gets too much, it’s obvious what the outcome will be. Much to the detriment of the last vestiges of genuine circumspect conservatism left in the party, and massively to the detriment of the people of the UK, but that never worried the Tory party, as long as they get power. Who knows what will happen. The Faragista are riding high in opinion polls as the moment but we are still four long years off a general election. As Lord Mandelson [a wise old bird if a somewhat sinister character] said: Reform may have peaked too soon. Dissent in their camp, failures by their new councils etc might bring a halt to their prolific rise. Several fairly minor ex Conservative MPs have joined Reform but the Farage has stated that he would not welcome some of the 'big hitters' like Suella Braverman. Probably because he knows she wouldn't be a fawning acolyte to his megalomania. Not sure what to make of Kemi. Amazed the party elected her. Clever lady but has made little impact outside the Commons. Is she playing a long game or was the party playing a long game and just making her a temporary leader? It is possible that the two parties could amalgamate or at least come to an electoral agreement. They say a week is a long time in politics. Four years could be an eternity. Mandelson is a sinister creature indeed but one thing he rarely is, is wrong. We shall see. I remember the last Tory defeat and it precipitated a series of frankly fucking useless leaders until they found one who could gain traction. I suspect we are here again. Much of what has gone above applies to the Labour Party ie do anything to get into power. 14 years in Opposition, told us all they were ready for Govenrment and clearly they had not used those 14 years wisely. Hence the current omnishables Ok. It’s pretty normal for partisans to hear an insult of their team and to shout “they are just as bad” But it doesn’t convey any real meaning apart from your partisanship. " Back at you. I dont attach myself to a Party so cannot be described as partisan. I have my beliefs etc as do others, but the present Government came to power without a clue and are taking a wreaking ball to the Country as a result.(maybe they are doing it deliberately??) I still haven't seen anyone actually support what Starmer is achieving.... | |||
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"They need to stop fannying about and let the navy do their job and properly protect our borders. That's what we pay them to do. " Totally agree but we are also paying the French to stop the boat's now they are supposedly helping us out with this plan. Tell you what Mr macron or whatever your name is stop them from entering your country in the first place and that will solve some of the problems. Just an idea. | |||
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"We should only be taking people who have applied for and got an official visa and has enough money to support themselves and we should be looking at what religions we are taking in and limit one of them to the bare minimum or none preferably, send them back to the middle east to sort their own shit out. Not our problem 👌 🙂 " Sounds like a sensible plan | |||
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"We should only be taking people who have applied for and got an official visa and has enough money to support themselves and we should be looking at what religions we are taking in and limit one of them to the bare minimum or none preferably, send them back to the middle east to sort their own shit out. Not our problem 👌 🙂 Sounds like a sensible plan" It is, we've taken enough foreigners in over the years, we should be the same as Australia and only take those with a skill and the means to support themselves. | |||
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"We should pay them on results. The more that crosses the less we pay them. " When will our useless 'leader' realise that our problem is Macron's solution...doh! | |||
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"Ideal conditions for crossing. The figures won't be as high day in day out... Oh that's alright then. Blame excessive numbers on the weather nothing to do with the Government. " This time of year it’s been the same sort of numbers for a good few years now. Fixation on how many a day only occurs when the numbers are high. If In November the numbers are in the low hundreds a week instead of the low thousands, will you praise the government for the huge deficit? I doubt it, you will say it’s because the weather is crap to cross and still blame the government for it. With you it seems they can’t win whatever happens so you don’t offer much in the realms of debate, just blame whoever is in power unless they deliver exactly it is that you specifically want. Makes the whole process of posting on here a bit pointless really. | |||
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" How could they possibly be considered invaders? It is clearly not linked to any military or violent incursions. Unless, of course, you wish to present us with a new definition altogether. I rather think you are struggling with the definition of the word. Invasion is not limited to a military incursion. We talk about an invasion of aphids in out gardens, or even worse and invasion of Japanese knot. Invasion simply means someone or something coming in uninvited and unwanted. If someone inquires about the invaders of Britain, would you mention the aphids in the gardens of the people, or would you elaborate on the Roman conquest of Britain, the Viking expansion, the Norman Conquest, the Anglo-Norman invasion of Ireland, and the Glorious Revolution? Okay. So what do we call them ? Certainly not invited or welcome guests [unless you are the much lamented SJ who has them queuing at the door of her luxury Bristolian penthouse] Perhaps INTRUDERS." You may refer to them in any manner you choose; however, this does not alter the reality that they are merely channel migrants or asylum seekers. | |||
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"Ideal conditions for crossing. The figures won't be as high day in day out... Oh that's alright then. Blame excessive numbers on the weather nothing to do with the Government. " ... ... 🏴 It's a reality. Was exactly the same when the tories were making a pigs ear. Are the figures so high when it's blowing a gale? 🏴 | |||
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