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By *amelaX OP   TV/TS
7 weeks ago

Swindon

Initial reports from investigators, suggest that the fuel cut-off switches had been manually switched on prior to the crash.

Are we still beleiving there was one sole survivor from the fireball that killed 241 passengers + 19 on the ground???

Not only did he survive..... he survived virtually unscathed, in clean clothes, clutching a passport, boarding pass & mobile phone.

I think it's totally disrespectful to the dead, for the MSM to be pushing such obvious nonsence.

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By *espectdueMan
7 weeks ago

Stratford-Upon-Avon


"Initial reports from investigators, suggest that the fuel cut-off switches had been manually switched on prior to the crash.

Are we still beleiving there was one sole survivor from the fireball that killed 241 passengers + 19 on the ground???

Not only did he survive..... he survived virtually unscathed, in clean clothes, clutching a passport, boarding pass & mobile phone.

I think it's totally disrespectful to the dead, for the MSM to be pushing such obvious nonsence."

Unless you have proof to anything else then yes we are.

In the days after it happened someone was on here shouting that the flaps were in the wrong position and swore blind he knew the truth.

So be respectful of the dead and leave it anything else is known.

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By *eedsbearmanMan
7 weeks ago

Leeds

I think you posted on the wrong site?

This is a hookup site called fabguys, did you mean to post on X?

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By *our-slaveMan
7 weeks ago

nottingham


"Initial reports from investigators, suggest that the fuel cut-off switches had been manually switched on prior to the crash.

Are we still beleiving there was one sole survivor from the fireball that killed 241 passengers + 19 on the ground???

Not only did he survive..... he survived virtually unscathed, in clean clothes, clutching a passport, boarding pass & mobile phone.

I think it's totally disrespectful to the dead, for the MSM to be pushing such obvious nonsence."

I believe that’s what happened. What do you believe? And why do you think they are lying?

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By *our-slaveMan
7 weeks ago

nottingham


"I think you posted on the wrong site?

This is a hookup site called fabguys, did you mean to post on X? "

This is a forum. We can discuss matters not pertaining to sex on here. It was obvious from the title what the subject was. If you don’t want to discuss it, why not keep out of it and stick to sex related posts?

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By (user no longer on site)
7 weeks ago

I have a creepy feeling this wasn't pilot error. One pilot says "why did you switch off the fuel?" Other pilot says " I didn't "

These switches can't be mistakenly turned off or on it requires each switch to be pulled up before moving. So is this a mechanical/electrical fault. Both pilots had considerable hours on type!

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By *tar33Man
7 weeks ago

North London (outer)


"Initial reports from investigators, suggest that the fuel cut-off switches had been manually switched on prior to the crash.

Are we still beleiving there was one sole survivor from the fireball that killed 241 passengers + 19 on the ground???

Not only did he survive..... he survived virtually unscathed, in clean clothes, clutching a passport, boarding pass & mobile phone.

I think it's totally disrespectful to the dead, for the MSM to be pushing such obvious nonsence."

How is it nonsense, do you have evidence this never happened?

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By *espectdueMan
6 weeks ago

Stratford-Upon-Avon


"I have a creepy feeling this wasn't pilot error. One pilot says "why did you switch off the fuel?" Other pilot says " I didn't "

These switches can't be mistakenly turned off or on it requires each switch to be pulled up before moving. So is this a mechanical/electrical fault. Both pilots had considerable hours on type! "

We shall soon know.

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By (user no longer on site)
6 weeks ago


"I have a creepy feeling this wasn't pilot error. One pilot says "why did you switch off the fuel?" Other pilot says " I didn't "

These switches can't be mistakenly turned off or on it requires each switch to be pulled up before moving. So is this a mechanical/electrical fault. Both pilots had considerable hours on type!

We shall soon know."

Could be months or we might never know. Another major problem is the 2nd flight recorder has apparently been destroyed and nothing can be retrieved from it.

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By *ookingaroundMan
6 weeks ago

Bristol


"I think you posted on the wrong site?

This is a hookup site called fabguys, did you mean to post on X? "

I like this comment, very well crafted.

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By *amelaX OP   TV/TS
6 weeks ago

Swindon

I posted this beacuse i find it a lot more interesting than posts about, sniffing panties, flat chests & the 100th silly word game of the week.

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By *ookingaroundMan
6 weeks ago

Bristol


"I posted this beacuse i find it a lot more interesting than posts about, sniffing panties, flat chests & the 100th silly word game of the week."

Yes and you managed to find a new level of utter pish to spout whilst doing it, it cannot be said you are not an achiever!!!

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By *hades Of GreyMan
6 weeks ago

Leeds


"In the days after it happened someone was on here shouting that the flaps were in the wrong position and swore blind he knew the truth."

The aircraft had already taken off so it must have been happy with whatever flap position was set. The report is saying that the fuel cutoffs were set to fuel off for long enough for both engines to spool down, and then reset to fuel on with not enough time for them to spool back up again. With both engines inoperative the RAT automatically deployed and it can clearly be heard on one of the videos. IMO this was inadvertant pilot error a scenario that has happened fairly regularly in past.

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By *anmannersMan
6 weeks ago

notts


"I posted this beacuse i find it a lot more interesting than posts about, sniffing panties, flat chests & the 100th silly word game of the week."

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By (user no longer on site)
6 weeks ago


"In the days after it happened someone was on here shouting that the flaps were in the wrong position and swore blind he knew the truth.

The aircraft had already taken off so it must have been happy with whatever flap position was set. The report is saying that the fuel cutoffs were set to fuel off for long enough for both engines to spool down, and then reset to fuel on with not enough time for them to spool back up again. With both engines inoperative the RAT automatically deployed and it can clearly be heard on one of the videos. IMO this was inadvertant pilot error a scenario that has happened fairly regularly in past."

Certainly looks like pilot error but I'm not convinced. Both of these pilots had thousands of hours on type so you'd think it unlikely one of them would cut off fuel to both engines by mistake. I'm thinking mechanical or electrical failure caused those switches to flip.

There was apparently some mention of those switches on a previous maintenance

check of that actual aircraft.

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By *hades Of GreyMan
6 weeks ago

Leeds


"In the days after it happened someone was on here shouting that the flaps were in the wrong position and swore blind he knew the truth.

The aircraft had already taken off so it must have been happy with whatever flap position was set. The report is saying that the fuel cutoffs were set to fuel off for long enough for both engines to spool down, and then reset to fuel on with not enough time for them to spool back up again. With both engines inoperative the RAT automatically deployed and it can clearly be heard on one of the videos. IMO this was inadvertant pilot error a scenario that has happened fairly regularly in past.

Certainly looks like pilot error but I'm not convinced. Both of these pilots had thousands of hours on type so you'd think it unlikely one of them would cut off fuel to both engines by mistake. I'm thinking mechanical or electrical failure caused those switches to flip.

There was apparently some mention of those switches on a previous maintenance

check of that actual aircraft. "

Having thousands of hours experience can lead to doing things atuomatically without thinking about it. The Yeti Airlines Flight 691 crash in Nepal on 15 January 2023. involved an ATR 72-500 turboprop. The very experienced copilot inadvertantly moved the condition levers, which control propeller pitch, to idle instead of lowering the flaps to 30 degrees as the Captain requested. This caused a similar problem the Air India disaster by cutting off power to both engines.

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By *amelaX OP   TV/TS
6 weeks ago

Swindon


"I posted this beacuse i find it a lot more interesting than posts about, sniffing panties, flat chests & the 100th silly word game of the week.

Yes and you managed to find a new level of utter pish to spout whilst doing it, it cannot be said you are not an achiever!!!"

Luckily, you have the freedom to scoll past those posts you deem as 'pish'

Now run along and have the day you deserve

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By *lue555Man
6 weeks ago

harrow

What do they gain pretending 1 person lived?

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By *ookingaroundMan
6 weeks ago

Bristol


"I posted this beacuse i find it a lot more interesting than posts about, sniffing panties, flat chests & the 100th silly word game of the week.

Yes and you managed to find a new level of utter pish to spout whilst doing it, it cannot be said you are not an achiever!!!

Luckily, you have the freedom to scoll past those posts you deem as 'pish'

Now run along and have the day you deserve "

Haha I love the suggestion that you should be able to post accusatory bullshit with no evidence and not expect people to tell you that you are talking bollocks.

What sort of world of impunity do you exist in? 🤣🤣🤣

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By *ookingaroundMan
6 weeks ago

Bristol


"What do they gain pretending 1 person lived? "

Don’t confront conspiracy with logic. Amoeba cannot deal with that.

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By (user no longer on site)
6 weeks ago


"I posted this beacuse i find it a lot more interesting than posts about, sniffing panties, flat chests & the 100th silly word game of the week.

Yes and you managed to find a new level of utter pish to spout whilst doing it, it cannot be said you are not an achiever!!!

Luckily, you have the freedom to scoll past those posts you deem as 'pish'

Now run along and have the day you deserve

Haha I love the suggestion that you should be able to post accusatory bullshit with no evidence and not expect people to tell you that you are talking bollocks.

What sort of world of impunity do you exist in? 🤣🤣🤣"

Walking away from a firebomb air crash seems incredible yes but surely no need to accuse a doubter of talking ballocks?

Everyone is entitled to an opinion!

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By (user no longer on site)
6 weeks ago

Now saying it was the pilot who was depressed after the death of his mother!

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By (user no longer on site)
6 weeks ago


"Now saying it was the pilot who was depressed after the death of his mother!"

Where did that dubious info come from?

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By *xtraoneMan
6 weeks ago

Gloucester

If you can switch a switch that crashes a plane to me that's a design fault.

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By (user no longer on site)
6 weeks ago


"If you can switch a switch that crashes a plane to me that's a design fault."

That's a strange comment!

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By *xtraoneMan
6 weeks ago

Gloucester

Why would they have a switch that cuts of fuel on take off

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By *cwgenMan
6 weeks ago

Glasgow


"Why would they have a switch that cuts of fuel on take off "

Incase an engine fails thru something like bird strike

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By (user no longer on site)
6 weeks ago


"Why would they have a switch that cuts of fuel on take off "

They don't. These switches are there for engine start up or shutdown. All aircraft have that feature.

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By *xtraoneMan
6 weeks ago

Gloucester

Yes I know that but for it to be able to turn off fuel to all engines as it's taking off to me that's a accident waiting to happen.

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By (user no longer on site)
6 weeks ago


"Yes I know that but for it to be able to turn off fuel to all engines as it's taking off to me that's a accident waiting to happen."

The switches are not just on or off. They have to be individually pulled up and then put in on or off positions. You can't accidentally bump against them and knock them into on or off.

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By *espectdueMan
6 weeks ago

Stratford-Upon-Avon


"I posted this beacuse i find it a lot more interesting than posts about, sniffing panties, flat chests & the 100th silly word game of the week.

Yes and you managed to find a new level of utter pish to spout whilst doing it, it cannot be said you are not an achiever!!!

Luckily, you have the freedom to scoll past those posts you deem as 'pish'

Now run along and have the day you deserve

Haha I love the suggestion that you should be able to post accusatory bullshit with no evidence and not expect people to tell you that you are talking bollocks.

What sort of world of impunity do you exist in? 🤣🤣🤣

Walking away from a firebomb air crash seems incredible yes but surely no need to accuse a doubter of talking ballocks?

Everyone is entitled to an opinion!

"

Unless he has a reason for his doubt then its just conspiracy theories, maybe we should as their opinions on moon landings and 9/11 while we are here.

Maybe ask if they think tRump is chosen by God?

Its a nonsense post really.

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By *ookingaroundMan
6 weeks ago

Bristol


"I posted this beacuse i find it a lot more interesting than posts about, sniffing panties, flat chests & the 100th silly word game of the week.

Yes and you managed to find a new level of utter pish to spout whilst doing it, it cannot be said you are not an achiever!!!

Luckily, you have the freedom to scoll past those posts you deem as 'pish'

Now run along and have the day you deserve

Haha I love the suggestion that you should be able to post accusatory bullshit with no evidence and not expect people to tell you that you are talking bollocks.

What sort of world of impunity do you exist in? 🤣🤣🤣

Walking away from a firebomb air crash seems incredible yes but surely no need to accuse a doubter of talking ballocks?

Everyone is entitled to an opinion!

"

You are entitled to an opinion, but you are not entitled to hold it with impunity.

If your opinion is unevidenced conspiracy horseshit, you are certainly not entitled to hold and disseminate it without fear of people ridiculing you.

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By *ull bi for funMan
6 weeks ago

hull


"Yes I know that but for it to be able to turn off fuel to all engines as it's taking off to me that's a accident waiting to happen.

The switches are not just on or off. They have to be individually pulled up and then put in on or off positions. You can't accidentally bump against them and knock them into on or off. "

Yes, this is correct. You have to lift and engage the fuel switches into place, they cannot be "just knocked" out of position.

I watched a YouTube clip about the initial findings, and both switches were turned off for 10 seconds whilst just in the air, depleting the aircraft of fuel for this 10 seconds duration, and the pilot asked why this had been done so.

The switches got engaged back into position however it was too late for fuel to pass through to get enough power to lift the aircraft safe. Thats when a mayday was issued and subsequent crash unfortunately occurred.

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By *arcusUK2Man
6 weeks ago

Winchester


"I think you posted on the wrong site?

This is a hookup site called fabguys, did you mean to post on X?

This is a forum. We can discuss matters not pertaining to sex on here. It was obvious from the title what the subject was. If you don’t want to discuss it, why not keep out of it and stick to sex related posts?"

I like your bum.

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By *arcusUK2Man
6 weeks ago

Winchester


"What do they gain pretending 1 person lived?

Don’t confront conspiracy with logic. Amoeba cannot deal with that."

Good point.

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By *ranford cruiserTV/TS
6 weeks ago

Heathrow

When the planes land at Heathrow they are not checked it's a quick clean on the inside refuel then back out and the blanket are reused without being washed

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By *arcusUK2Man
6 weeks ago

Winchester


"I posted this beacuse i find it a lot more interesting than posts about, sniffing panties, flat chests & the 100th silly word game of the week.

Yes and you managed to find a new level of utter pish to spout whilst doing it, it cannot be said you are not an achiever!!!

Luckily, you have the freedom to scoll past those posts you deem as 'pish'

Now run along and have the day you deserve

Haha I love the suggestion that you should be able to post accusatory bullshit with no evidence and not expect people to tell you that you are talking bollocks.

What sort of world of impunity do you exist in? 🤣🤣🤣

Walking away from a firebomb air crash seems incredible yes but surely no need to accuse a doubter of talking ballocks?

Everyone is entitled to an opinion!

"

Exactly. And it's happened before, look at the famous film of the huge Hindenburg fireball - more survived than died in that accident. So one wonders why conspiracy nuts seem incapable of critical thought and a bit of simple research. Takes all sorts I suppose.

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By *arridMan
6 weeks ago

bRiGhToN


"If you can switch a switch that crashes a plane to me that's a design fault."
There isn’t (a switch) so you can’t (switch it) so there isn’t (a design fault).

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By (user no longer on site)
6 weeks ago

So what are you guys saying that this guy killed these people? But if he did how the hell did he walk away from this plane the only person to walk away.

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By *arridMan
6 weeks ago

bRiGhToN


"So what are you guys saying that this guy killed these people? But if he did how the hell did he walk away from this plane the only person to walk away. "

Because he was wearing a personal anti-matter defence mechanism.

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By (user no longer on site)
6 weeks ago

Worst possible height for this to happen. If they had even reached 1 thousand feet before shut down they might well have had just enough time to spool up the engines and get enough thrust. Tragic!

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By *arcusUK2Man
6 weeks ago

Winchester


"So what are you guys saying that this guy killed these people? But if he did how the hell did he walk away from this plane the only person to walk away. "

No, not the passenger who survived, one of the pilots.

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By (user no longer on site)
6 weeks ago


"So what are you guys saying that this guy killed these people? But if he did how the hell did he walk away from this plane the only person to walk away.

No, not the passenger who survived, one of the pilots. "

Don't think it was pilot error, more likely mechanical/electrical fault (imho)

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By *ookingaroundMan
6 weeks ago

Bristol


"So what are you guys saying that this guy killed these people? But if he did how the hell did he walk away from this plane the only person to walk away.

No, not the passenger who survived, one of the pilots. "

Wild accusation with only vaguely anecdotal evidence.

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By *iger79Man
6 weeks ago

Chelmsford

Suicide/murder by a pilot....

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By *hades Of GreyMan
6 weeks ago

Leeds


"So what are you guys saying that this guy killed these people? But if he did how the hell did he walk away from this plane the only person to walk away.

No, not the passenger who survived, one of the pilots.

Don't think it was pilot error, more likely mechanical/electrical fault (imho)"

Upon what do you base this opinion? THey already know that the fuel cut off switches were activated juat after take off.

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By *ookingaroundMan
6 weeks ago

Bristol


"So what are you guys saying that this guy killed these people? But if he did how the hell did he walk away from this plane the only person to walk away.

No, not the passenger who survived, one of the pilots.

Don't think it was pilot error, more likely mechanical/electrical fault (imho)

Upon what do you base this opinion? THey already know that the fuel cut off switches were activated juat after take off."

This might sound semantic, but is important, especially given Boeing’s recent safety record, the know the fuel cut-off was activated. They don’t know the switches were activated.

That’s the most likely reason for the fuel cut off to be activated, yes. But not the only possible one.

I know it sounds like splitting hairs, but it does make a substantial difference to how an investigation would be undertaken.

Right now they are trying to understand how the fuel was cut off. The switches are only one possibility there.

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By *arcusUK2Man
6 weeks ago

Winchester


"So what are you guys saying that this guy killed these people? But if he did how the hell did he walk away from this plane the only person to walk away.

No, not the passenger who survived, one of the pilots.

Don't think it was pilot error, more likely mechanical/electrical fault (imho)

Upon what do you base this opinion? THey already know that the fuel cut off switches were activated juat after take off.

This might sound semantic, but is important, especially given Boeing’s recent safety record, the know the fuel cut-off was activated. They don’t know the switches were activated.

That’s the most likely reason for the fuel cut off to be activated, yes. But not the only possible one.

I know it sounds like splitting hairs, but it does make a substantial difference to how an investigation would be undertaken.

Right now they are trying to understand how the fuel was cut off. The switches are only one possibility there. "

True. Plus, the cockpit voice recorder has the copilot panicking, and asking the Captain why he turned the fuel off. Nasty business.

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By (user no longer on site)
6 weeks ago


"So what are you guys saying that this guy killed these people? But if he did how the hell did he walk away from this plane the only person to walk away.

No, not the passenger who survived, one of the pilots.

Don't think it was pilot error, more likely mechanical/electrical fault (imho)

Upon what do you base this opinion? THey already know that the fuel cut off switches were activated juat after take off."

Yes but by what means were they activated or the fuel cut off? Not as straightforward as blaming pilot error. We know they were switched off because one of the pilots switched them back on and restarted the engines although not in time with the available height.

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By *iggreenockMan
6 weeks ago

Greenock


"Initial reports from investigators, suggest that the fuel cut-off switches had been manually switched on prior to the crash.

Are we still beleiving there was one sole survivor from the fireball that killed 241 passengers + 19 on the ground???

Not only did he survive..... he survived virtually unscathed, in clean clothes, clutching a passport, boarding pass & mobile phone.

I think it's totally disrespectful to the dead, for the MSM to be pushing such obvious nonsence."

Yeah obviously a conspiracy

Some people!

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By *ookingaroundMan
6 weeks ago

Bristol


"So what are you guys saying that this guy killed these people? But if he did how the hell did he walk away from this plane the only person to walk away.

No, not the passenger who survived, one of the pilots.

Don't think it was pilot error, more likely mechanical/electrical fault (imho)

Upon what do you base this opinion? THey already know that the fuel cut off switches were activated juat after take off.

This might sound semantic, but is important, especially given Boeing’s recent safety record, the know the fuel cut-off was activated. They don’t know the switches were activated.

That’s the most likely reason for the fuel cut off to be activated, yes. But not the only possible one.

I know it sounds like splitting hairs, but it does make a substantial difference to how an investigation would be undertaken.

Right now they are trying to understand how the fuel was cut off. The switches are only one possibility there.

True. Plus, the cockpit voice recorder has the copilot panicking, and asking the Captain why he turned the fuel off. Nasty business. "

Precisely and the captain saying that they hadn’t. Therefore there is enough suggestion that other factors may have been involved.

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