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"Anyone else get asked if they're going to pride as if just because I'm gay I must be attending? No, I'm not, and I don't need to justify myself either. I have no particular love or hate of it either way." You do you. It does sound a bit like you are having the argument with yourself, not anyone else? | |||
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"Anyone else get asked if they're going to pride as if just because I'm gay I must be attending? No, I'm not, and I don't need to justify myself either. I have no particular love or hate of it either way."   | |||
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"I never attend pride events anymore, I'm assamed it's been taken over by trans. Less and less gay guys go anymore. " Prude is filled with loads of gay guys. What do you mean? | |||
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. And lots of opportunities to have your kinks instead of in a parade...
It's basically gay Christmas - if the second coming of Jesus had a double meaning 
Go....don't go..... You're not missing much unless you need to feel a bit of positive energy and self love......or you want copious amounts of sex. | |||
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"I do attend to a degree. Essientally pride causes a bit of a divide in the community for various reasons. The first one I went to was a family friendly event. But, there was guys wearing pup play masks. I voiced my concern and the argument was made that pride is about sexual freedom too. I'm fine with that to a degree, but there was kids there. And I suppose , the kids won't put two and two together from just a dog mask but I don't think they should be seeing it at all. It's not necessary to display your kinks at a family friendly parade. Maybe I'm just a prude. " I don't think you are a prude at all. If you are then I am happy to be dubbed one as well. I don't agree with children being at pride events. Always thought they should be held in private parks, like rock concerts, with a 16+ admission only. I saw some videos of a pride event. There were guys wearing puppy hoods, leather or rubber speedos, boots, studded collars and chains, being led by their 'masters' in front of kids. Another guy wore an outfit made up of about 20 or 30 brightly coloured dildoes. Explain that to a 7yo. At a town not so very far from me, they had a pride weekend. I did not go as most of the events that appealed to me were at night and I no longer drive after dark. They had a specific event for kids. Don't know what it comprised of but don't think it was necessary and wondered just how many parents would let their kids attend. | |||
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"I never attend pride events anymore, I'm assamed it's been taken over by trans. Less and less gay guys go anymore. " London Pride this year was wall to wall cock. Mostly attached to big, burly fuckers. Had a blast. And although this was my 30th Pride event, I have never experienced such love, positivity and inclusiveness as I did this time. Piss and moan and stay at home if it’s not your bag, you won’t be remotely missed. I can assure you. | |||
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"I do attend to a degree. Essientally pride causes a bit of a divide in the community for various reasons. The first one I went to was a family friendly event. But, there was guys wearing pup play masks. I voiced my concern and the argument was made that pride is about sexual freedom too. I'm fine with that to a degree, but there was kids there. And I suppose , the kids won't put two and two together from just a dog mask but I don't think they should be seeing it at all. It's not necessary to display your kinks at a family friendly parade. Maybe I'm just a prude. I don't think you are a prude at all. If you are then I am happy to be dubbed one as well. I don't agree with children being at pride events. Always thought they should be held in private parks, like rock concerts, with a 16+ admission only. I saw some videos of a pride event. There were guys wearing puppy hoods, leather or rubber speedos, boots, studded collars and chains, being led by their 'masters' in front of kids. Another guy wore an outfit made up of about 20 or 30 brightly coloured dildoes. Explain that to a 7yo. At a town not so very far from me, they had a pride weekend. I did not go as most of the events that appealed to me were at night and I no longer drive after dark. They had a specific event for kids. Don't know what it comprised of but don't think it was necessary and wondered just how many parents would let their kids attend." Yeh I've seen kids at events like that too (online). It's the internet so it's hard to know if woke parents brought their kids to something they shouldn't or if someone in the parade was doing stuff they shouldn't. Regardless, it's wrong. I've never encountered stuff that raunchy at a family friendly event thankfully. I would be well and truely pissed off and not quiet about it. What I did see at the last one was 99% family friendly. There was a segment for LGBT families - lots of families with two mums, dads, a mix of colours , races , adopted kids, fostered kids etc. It was lovely to see and I'm sure those kids felt a lot of pride and support for their family. A stark contrast to the bullying of the past. And it will give them confidence and resilience to defend themselves when they do encounter bigotry. To me, that's what pride is about - being seen, living without prejudice or fear of violence. Accepting each other's differences. I still think it has great purpose but we have to keep the line drawn somewhere as to what's socially and ethically acceptable behaviour. All the raunchy stuff can be after 9pm lol. That part is fun too but should be strictly adults and adult eyes only. Particularly because it also just gives the bigots ammo to call us all perverts and pedos. They don't care about the truth. They just need to see one video online and their tiny minds are made up forever. | |||
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"I agree live and let live together I would like to go and just have the experience not to shag everyone in sight or judge just to meet people and enjoy " That’s the point it’s not supposed to be a shag fest So maybe if gone that way hence why so many not happy with it | |||
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"I agree live and let live together I would like to go and just have the experience not to shag everyone in sight or judge just to meet people and enjoy " It's the same as fabguys or grindr. You get out of it what you put into it or want from it. I've met people socially from here and made friends. Partake to whatever level you want. You can certainly just attend the parade,meet people, have a few beers, sing a few songs, dance, socialise. I highly advise trying it if you've never been. I found it very liberating after growing up though a very homophobic schooling and society In general. | |||
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"Considering the high levels of tolerance and liberal views in society now, I think the 'in your face' nature of Pride is kind of yesterday's news, I don't knock it but I don't completely see the point of it now, it almost seems to be out to provoke a reaction, but I hope not." I kind of agree. The one in Brighton is just a family day out now, and is hugely expensive. Where the money goes is another matter... | |||
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"I kind of agree. The one in Brighton is just a family day out now, and is hugely expensive. Where the money goes is another matter... "It’s a good point, identity politics is a hugely profitable endeavour, and a significant enough proportion of its protagonists are very susceptible to manipulation such that they readily carry out transactions which appeal to their tribal nature, but which don’t actually further their aims apart from lightening their bank balances. Too many people are more concerned about the fashion element of identity politics and insufficiently concerned about whether or not they are actually making things better or worse for their chosen team. It’s always better to be effective than right. | |||
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"Seeing the utter deviants that take part in the “Pride” parades I’m surprised they’re allowed to go ahead to be honest. Parading down the street dressed as they do is to be honest a disgrace. " Like I said in an earlier post these events should be held in parks, like rock concerns, with no admission for anyone under 16. | |||
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"Seeing the utter deviants that take part in the “Pride” parades I’m surprised they’re allowed to go ahead to be honest. Parading down the street dressed as they do is to be honest a disgrace. " This is one of the reasons Pride marches started; as a protest as been seen as deviants | |||
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"Seeing the utter deviants that take part in the “Pride” parades I’m surprised they’re allowed to go ahead to be honest. Parading down the street dressed as they do is to be honest a disgrace. This is one of the reasons Pride marches started; as a protest as been seen as deviants " That makes sense and from what I saw recently of some old videos of pride, back in the '80s, people were wearing their ordinary everyday clothes or even there working uniform if permitted. Surely drag queens, puppy-dogs, gimps etc. etc. parading about is a backward step as it will make us all look like deviants. | |||
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"From someone that was actually there this year; I walked the whole march, watched the concert in Trafalgar Square and ventured into Soho. Didn’t see anyone in a gimp mask, a puppy suit, bottomless chaps or anything else some of you would classify as “deviant”. What I did see were Samaritans, every Armed force with members in full uniform, Clergy, and tens of thousands of people in regular clothing smiling at each other and celebrating love in all its forms. It was an absolutely beautiful day, and I feel truly sorry for the men on this site who have sex with other men and feel the need to make derogatory comments about people showing their solidarity with those brave enough to show the world that the ability to love is far more important than the object of that love. Perhaps you could attend next year and see for yourself? " Well Mr Voltaire that sounds exactly how it should be and I'm glad you enjoyed it. The 'deviant' pictures and videos that I have seen on line were from various Pride events plus they were even produced by LGBT people and not by extremists and fundamentalists waging war against LGBT folk. I would love to attend but as a spectator. My marching days are behind me. Couldn't in the past because always working and now it's the issue of travelling etc. Actually I would have nothing against 'deviants' expressing themselves but not on public streets or near children. | |||
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"From someone that was actually there this year; I walked the whole march, watched the concert in Trafalgar Square and ventured into Soho. Didn’t see anyone in a gimp mask, a puppy suit, bottomless chaps or anything else some of you would classify as “deviant”. What I did see were Samaritans, every Armed force with members in full uniform, Clergy, and tens of thousands of people in regular clothing smiling at each other and celebrating love in all its forms. It was an absolutely beautiful day, and I feel truly sorry for the men on this site who have sex with other men and feel the need to make derogatory comments about people showing their solidarity with those brave enough to show the world that the ability to love is far more important than the object of that love. Perhaps you could attend next year and see for yourself? "  | |||
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"I went to my first Pride in ’79 and used to go every year - London, Brighton & Huddersfield. I loved it and it was a protest, political, self-created, interesting, fun and sexy. The whole London Pride march went to Huddersfield in 1981 (or ’82?) because John Addy’s Gemini club and customers were being targeted for months by the police. Pride decided we’d go to protest in Huddersfield, which needless to say gobsmacked the entire town which had never seen the like! It was amazing. The harrassment of the club and its customers was stopped. Pride now could never do anything like that as it’s so entangled with the entire physical paraphenalia of the event let alone the corporate sponsors that would run a mile from such an overtly political action. The rot set in for me when a friend told me that he went to London Pride with a friend who had AIDS and took his medication and water with him. He was told he couldn’t bring the water in. He explained that he needed it for his meds. He was told he couldn’t bring it in and would have to buy water inside. My friend said they told him to fuck off and left. Then Brighton Pride started segregating areas with fencing in Preston Park and adding VIP area crap. The final straw came for me when as a member of BLAGSS we had been promised a double stand at Brighton Pride in Preston Park. BLAGSS was the largest LGB community organisation in Brighton by a mile and I’d offered to help out on the stands. When I got there we had only one tent because Pride had given our other tent space to the Co-Op Bank. That was a kick in the teeth and I’ve never been again. Money is what drives the whole thing now, not Gay rights or the actual community." Exactly, thanks for sharing. The LGBTQI+++ movement has become too diluted by fringe specialist interest groups & sponsorship to be relevant in 2025. I will attend Margate Pride, shining in rubber in the shadows, but waving flags, blowing whistles under the banner of "Queers for Palestine!" - NO THANK YOU.  | |||
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"I went to my first Pride in ’79 and used to go every year - London, Brighton & Huddersfield. I loved it and it was a protest, political, self-created, interesting, fun and sexy. The whole London Pride march went to Huddersfield in 1981 (or ’82?) because John Addy’s Gemini club and customers were being targeted for months by the police. Pride decided we’d go to protest in Huddersfield, which needless to say gobsmacked the entire town which had never seen the like! It was amazing. The harrassment of the club and its customers was stopped. Pride now could never do anything like that as it’s so entangled with the entire physical paraphenalia of the event let alone the corporate sponsors that would run a mile from such an overtly political action. The rot set in for me when a friend told me that he went to London Pride with a friend who had AIDS and took his medication and water with him. He was told he couldn’t bring the water in. He explained that he needed it for his meds. He was told he couldn’t bring it in and would have to buy water inside. My friend said they told him to fuck off and left. Then Brighton Pride started segregating areas with fencing in Preston Park and adding VIP area crap. The final straw came for me when as a member of BLAGSS we had been promised a double stand at Brighton Pride in Preston Park. BLAGSS was the largest LGB community organisation in Brighton by a mile and I’d offered to help out on the stands. When I got there we had only one tent because Pride had given our other tent space to the Co-Op Bank. That was a kick in the teeth and I’ve never been again. Money is what drives the whole thing now, not Gay rights or the actual community." Just recently in Hungary - they tried to ban the pride parade. So instead of the usual 35,000 people turn out , it had between 100,000 and 200,000 people turn up. The videos and clips are very inspirational. Very much a protest to the government. It's literally the opposite of everything you've just said, although I'm not trying to take away from what you're saying and I don't doubt it was true. It is super comersalised. The memes about it are quite funny each year. Companies that were traditionally very homophobic wear a rainbow colour on their logo for a month and pretend their history of bigotry is erased lol. But there are plenty of events during pride in hundreds of different categories. I went to a "carnival day" event this year. 3 stages with live music and entertainment. It had the normal commercial crap and even political party tents - basically they just give away free stuff. I got some Calvin Klein boxers, some fragrances and other crap I'll probably give away. It wasn't a big deal. The main reason I went to that event is because the other tents are all community based. LGBTQ+ or gay choirs, motorbike clubs, tennis, board games, dungeons and dragons, go karting, arts and crafts.....dozens more. Also tents that give out free legal advise on gay marriage, partnership visas, adoption, fostering, fertility, sexual health.... Pride is a month long. Just find stuff that's to your needs/liking. I might add that carnival event thing was 100% FREE too. | |||
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