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"As I’ve said before, beef up the security on ex military camps, put as many bunk beds in each room as possible, provide basic foods, proper sanitation and don’t let them leave the camp. That’ll bring the numbers down" ... ... Haven't you heard of Manton Migrant Centre in Kent? Did it's inhumane treatment of humans stop the crossings? | |||
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"As I’ve said before, beef up the security on ex military camps, put as many bunk beds in each room as possible, provide basic foods, proper sanitation and don’t let them leave the camp. That’ll bring the numbers down" It would also keep the migrants safe and the public safe, by keeping them isolated from each other. | |||
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"They are building accommodation centres. Why should asylum seekers be made to live in isolation? " It's hardly isolation when there are thousands with each other. It's no different to being in Calais and they were safe there. | |||
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"Omg being brave to protest over illegal yes illegal men in boats invading our country makes u a racist or nazi use lefties are a joke " ..... .. The majority there weren't neo-nazis. Yet such types were in attendance. You've distorted what was posted. Joke? Irony. Also you don't have to be a 'leftie' to state what is a matter of fact: Neo-nazis were there. | |||
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"They are building accommodation centres. Why should asylum seekers be made to live in isolation? It's hardly isolation when there are thousands with each other. It's no different to being in Calais and they were safe there." ... ... 'An isolated coast'... Is said location going to have shops, dentists, doctors, playparks for the kids? Calais is not an isolated location... | |||
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"As I’ve said before, beef up the security on ex military camps, put as many bunk beds in each room as possible, provide basic foods, proper sanitation and don’t let them leave the camp. That’ll bring the numbers down It would also keep the migrants safe and the public safe, by keeping them isolated from each other. " ... .. ... The vast majority of asylum seekers aren't engaging in criminal acts. Sweeping generalisations about them perpetuate falsehoods and add to the culture of hate. In your instance, your inference is patently obvious.... | |||
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"Tell me what is a neo nazi ?? Antifa are neo nazis do u know who they are the far left people who protest in my city have voted labour all there lives an are just normal people were gettin invaded everyday by men in boats illegally wen do we say enough is enough wake up m8 ffs" ..... ... 🏴 White Vanguard is your starter for ten. Antifa are clearly not Neo-Nazi either 🏴 | |||
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"Why are they crossing loads of safe country’s to get here ask yourself that my dad was killed on the beaches of Normandy stopping the nazis invading our country now we’re just allowing foreign men of fighting age to come everyday all the fallen soildiers must b turning in there graves " ... ... Turning in their graves at the mindset of those who hate foreigners and muslims? There are women and children crossing the channel as well. They aren't coming to impose sharia law on your neighbourhood. | |||
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"It is inevitable people are going to protest as the situation is ridiculous and this weak government is handling it even worse than the last weak government. Doesn't make people neo-nazis at all. Just fed-up people despairing and worried about our country's future." Protest clearly works. They plan to close the Bell hotel. Other protesters will be inspired by this if it happens. | |||
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"They are building accommodation centres. Why should asylum seekers be made to live in isolation? " Probably to keep them safe from the rabid pitchfork wielding fartrage funding reform supporters. | |||
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"Tell me why are they coming an why can’t they just go to a airport an fly here an go threw the proper channels instead of paying thousands to cross in a dingy u really are thick y don’t u let them stay at your house " ... Threw? It's easy for you to say that re catching a plane but you aren't living in a war-torn country being worked by a gang leader/member into the promise of a better life in the UK. It's not the responsibility of citizens to house asylum seekers. There exists a thing called... The State. It carries the responsibility. Thick. Ahem. | |||
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"It’s 90 percent men " ... ... 🇵🇸Who aren't part of an army that wants to take you and your way of life on....🇵🇸 | |||
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"They are building accommodation centres. Why should asylum seekers be made to live in isolation? Probably to keep them safe from the rabid pitchfork wielding fartrage funding reform supporters." ... ... ...🏴 The easily led 🏴 | |||
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"They are building accommodation centres. Why should asylum seekers be made to live in isolation? Probably to keep them safe from the rabid pitchfork wielding fartrage funding reform supporters. ... ... ...🏴 The easily led 🏴" Probably the sort who would have supported the “Austrian Corporal” in the 1930’s in another country. | |||
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"In the interests of safety Wouldn't simple solution be to relocate them to one of those unoccupied Scottish islands Obviously with services facilities etc " Sounds like a sensible plan | |||
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"Let there be no mistake, the UK is being invaded, plain and simple. The Left's reckless open-door policy is an affront to our nation's sovereignty. Our infrastructure is buckling under the strain, and our economy is struggling to support its own people. Yet when we dare to speak out, the Left resorts to bullying tactics, branding us Right-Wing extremist Neo-Natzis and racists which is far from reality. The Left's agenda is a clear and it presenta a serious danger to our country's very fabric. We are are proud and patriotic British people who will not be silenced. We will not be intimidated by the bullying tactics of the Left who seem to be hellbent on destroying all we have in the UK. We demand action from Starmer and his government here and now to protect our nation and its people!! Rule Brittania! 🇬🇧 Cymru am byth! 🏴" But, but, but, according to the lefties, we need all these doctors, engineers and rocket scientists 😂😂 | |||
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"In the interests of safety Wouldn't simple solution be to relocate them to one of those unoccupied Scottish islands Obviously with services facilities etc Sounds like a sensible plan" Except when you think about it, how much is it going to cost the taxpayer to build the ships to take all the supplies and people there, and the dock on the island for the ships to be able to dock there and unload, and all the builders and materials to build the accommodation in the first place? | |||
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"Has anybody on here managed to enter a country without a passport. I am all for immigration and asylum seekers but the vast majority of illegals are economic migrants costing over £5 billion a year while homeless and veterans are on the streets." Yes I have | |||
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"Listen guys.this is happening My next door neighbour rents a room out to a nice gentleman as done for a few years.at £800 p c.m.last week council offered her £1800 p.c.m.if she would rent room out to a couple of economic migrants. When she asked what checks had been taken they said none because they threw passports away. If you want to welcome them here them why not make money out of it. P.s she said what are they going to live on they said £500a week each." Well it’s on an internet forum so it must be true | |||
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"Has anybody on here managed to enter a country without a passport. I am all for immigration and asylum seekers but the vast majority of illegals are economic migrants costing over £5 billion a year while homeless and veterans are on the streets." £5 Billion and the rest. Try multiplying that 20 times. There are a million foreigners on universal credit, probably getting their housing paid, council tax etc. And no, I have never been able to enter any country without my passport. | |||
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"Sensible? Or inhumane?" You go somewhere uninvited you take potluck. You hope you won't be mistreated but at the same time you should not expect to be welcomed and feted. If a total stranger walks through your open patio doors and sits on your settee uninvited, do you feed them and offer them a bed for not just that night but an long term period? No one expects them to be treated inhumanely but segregating them on an island situation would at least keep them save from those pitchfork wielding neo-nazis, until they can be properly processed and either given a chance to integrate or be sent back to whence they came. | |||
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"Has anybody on here managed to enter a country without a passport. I am all for immigration and asylum seekers but the vast majority of illegals are economic migrants costing over £5 billion a year while homeless and veterans are on the streets. £5 Billion and the rest. Try multiplying that 20 times. There are a million foreigners on universal credit, probably getting their housing paid, council tax etc. And no, I have never been able to enter any country without my passport." Yea as soon as you had to make something up to be angry about your entire point fell down | |||
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"Has anybody on here managed to enter a country without a passport. I am all for immigration and asylum seekers but the vast majority of illegals are economic migrants costing over £5 billion a year while homeless and veterans are on the streets. Yes I have " I don't think he means the channel Islands or Ireland | |||
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"Let there be no mistake, the UK is being invaded, plain and simple. The Left's reckless open-door policy is an affront to our nation's sovereignty. Our infrastructure is buckling under the strain, and our economy is struggling to support its own people. Yet when we dare to speak out, the Left resorts to bullying tactics, branding us Right-Wing extremist Neo-Natzis and racists which is far from reality. The Left's agenda is a clear and it presenta a serious danger to our country's very fabric. We are are proud and patriotic British people who will not be silenced. We will not be intimidated by the bullying tactics of the Left who seem to be hellbent on destroying all we have in the UK. We demand action from Starmer and his government here and now to protect our nation and its people!! Rule Brittania! 🇬🇧 Cymru am byth! 🏴" .... ... 🏴 If you believe theres been an invasion, surely your beloved tories must have more than played their part- what with them being in power for 14 years? The idea that there is a bullying of those who 'speak out' is a distortion of reality- the likes of which takes some beating. Those who counter-demoed yesterday weren't bullying the flag-draped protesters. They were practicing a democratic right. Those of us who believe in rational thought rather than hysterical scaremongering aren't bullying either. Those who surrounded the hotel last summer, scaring the kids inside. Thuggery beyond bullying. Instead it's the safety blanket of the dastardly lefties.. Your claim re Britishness, is nonsense. Not all of us think this way. Your use of the word 'we' is utterly without substance.. Nonetheless an all-time classic!!🏴 | |||
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"Listen guys.this is happening My next door neighbour rents a room out to a nice gentleman as done for a few years.at £800 p c.m.last week council offered her £1800 p.c.m.if she would rent room out to a couple of economic migrants. When she asked what checks had been taken they said none because they threw passports away. If you want to welcome them here them why not make money out of it. P.s she said what are they going to live on they said £500a week each. Well it’s on an internet forum so it must be true " If you dig you will see that there are charities supporting this approach. There's one in Manchester. Specifically, they kick in when refugee status has been accepted. The housing crisis means they have to look at all options. | |||
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"Something that people don’t seem to realise because the media don’t seem to report it (I wonder why that is🤔) is that this government has been removing record numbers whose claims have failed. But I guess that doesn’t sell copy by causing outrage does it. Also we have the rule of law in this country NOT mob rule. To legally remove someone their claim has to have failed, for their claim to have failed it would have to first have been processed. The previous government CUT the number of people processing claims (wonder why). To expand processing to clear the backlog you need to hire more staff who need to be vetted first then trained - that takes both time and (yes you guessed it) Money (which we don’t really have, with all the other priorities that need fixing)." .... .. 🏴 Rational👍👍🏴 | |||
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"Something that people don’t seem to realise because the media don’t seem to report it (I wonder why that is🤔) is that this government has been removing record numbers whose claims have failed. " Absolute bollocks. They remove nobody, except maybe a few Albanians. For fuck suck, even Pakistani kiddie rapists are not deported. You're talking bollocks mate. | |||
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"We demand action From The Maybot El Spaffle The Toby Jug Nah, of course not... 🤭" The Maybot did have her vans... | |||
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"France is a safe country and the last time I looked is definitely not war torn. Stick the illegals on a ferry and return them to Calais "A better option is the Royal Navy in the channel. Dinghies don't react well to bullets. Once a few get sunk, the problem will be over. | |||
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"Something that people don’t seem to realise because the media don’t seem to report it (I wonder why that is🤔) is that this government has been removing record numbers whose claims have failed. Absolute bollocks. They remove nobody, except maybe a few Albanians. For fuck suck, even Pakistani kiddie rapists are not deported. You're talking bollocks mate." Believe what you want but facts are facts - I’ll take facts any day over some Wooly deluded fantasies from zealots. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/home-office-smashes-targets-with-mass-surge-in-migrant-removals | |||
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"Something that people don’t seem to realise because the media don’t seem to report it (I wonder why that is🤔) is that this government has been removing record numbers whose claims have failed. Absolute bollocks. They remove nobody, except maybe a few Albanians. For fuck suck, even Pakistani kiddie rapists are not deported. You're talking bollocks mate." ... ... The Home Office Figures are a matter of record/fact. Do a bit of basic research. Step away from the whistle. | |||
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"Something that people don’t seem to realise because the media don’t seem to report it (I wonder why that is🤔) is that this government has been removing record numbers whose claims have failed. Absolute bollocks. They remove nobody, except maybe a few Albanians. For fuck suck, even Pakistani kiddie rapists are not deported. You're talking bollocks mate." No he isn’t. …” The government’s pledge to deliver the highest rate of removals since 2018 has been surpassed, with a surge in returns activity since the election leading to 16,400 people with no right to be in the UK being removed. Since the government came to office, enforced returns are up 24% compared to the same 12 months prior and Britain’s streets have been made safer with the removal of 2,580..” Government website. And no, they don’t lie. | |||
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"Something that people don’t seem to realise because the media don’t seem to report it (I wonder why that is🤔) is that this government has been removing record numbers whose claims have failed. Absolute bollocks. They remove nobody, except maybe a few Albanians. For fuck suck, even Pakistani kiddie rapists are not deported. You're talking bollocks mate. Believe what you want but facts are facts - I’ll take facts any day over some Wooly deluded fantasies from zealots. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/home-office-smashes-targets-with-mass-surge-in-migrant-removals" You believe what the government says. Christ, you really are gullible. I'm sure there will be a public inquiry in 30 years, once we are a fully fledged third world shit hole. | |||
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"France is a safe country and the last time I looked is definitely not war torn. Stick the illegals on a ferry and return them to Calais
A better option is the Royal Navy in the channel.
Dinghies don't react well to bullets.
Once a few get sunk, the problem will be over."So your solution is to either shoot or drown them. Not really the sort of suggestion you get from good law abiding people, more like you would get from the Nazi’s. | |||
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"France is a safe country and the last time I looked is definitely not war torn. Stick the illegals on a ferry and return them to Calais
A better option is the Royal Navy in the channel.
Dinghies don't react well to bullets.
Once a few get sunk, the problem will be over."Better still, you go stand on the beach, they'll definitely turn back | |||
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"France is a safe country and the last time I looked is definitely not war torn. Stick the illegals on a ferry and return them to Calais
A better option is the Royal Navy in the channel.
Dinghies don't react well to bullets.
Once a few get sunk, the problem will be over.
So your solution is to either shoot or drown them. Not really the sort of suggestion you get from good law abiding people, more like you would get from the Nazi’s."Good law abiding people don't enter foreign countries illegally. | |||
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"Something that people don’t seem to realise because the media don’t seem to report it (I wonder why that is🤔) is that this government has been removing record numbers whose claims have failed. Absolute bollocks. They remove nobody, except maybe a few Albanians. For fuck suck, even Pakistani kiddie rapists are not deported. You're talking bollocks mate. Believe what you want but facts are facts - I’ll take facts any day over some Wooly deluded fantasies from zealots. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/home-office-smashes-targets-with-mass-surge-in-migrant-removals" Well said. | |||
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"Something that people don’t seem to realise because the media don’t seem to report it (I wonder why that is🤔) is that this government has been removing record numbers whose claims have failed. Absolute bollocks. They remove nobody, except maybe a few Albanians. For fuck suck, even Pakistani kiddie rapists are not deported. You're talking bollocks mate. Believe what you want but facts are facts - I’ll take facts any day over some Wooly deluded fantasies from zealots. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/home-office-smashes-targets-with-mass-surge-in-migrant-removals You believe what the government says. Christ, you really are gullible. I'm sure there will be a public inquiry in 30 years, once we are a fully fledged third world shit hole." So where are your figures to refute this? And I don’t mean some headline from the Daily Fail designed to sell more copy by outraging people. | |||
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"Good law abiding people don't advocate murder on internet forums." Give your brain cell a rest lefty. | |||
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"France is a safe country and the last time I looked is definitely not war torn. Stick the illegals on a ferry and return them to Calais
A better option is the Royal Navy in the channel.
Dinghies don't react well to bullets.
Once a few get sunk, the problem will be over.
So your solution is to either shoot or drown them. Not really the sort of suggestion you get from good law abiding people, more like you would get from the Nazi’s.
Good law abiding people don't enter foreign countries illegally."No, they don’t. That doesn’t mean they should be shot or drowned. Men, women, children. This ultra right wing approach is horrible. I’m pleased the little green arrow lets potential sexual partners see what views some people have. | |||
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"Good law abiding people don't advocate murder on internet forums." That’s a bit rich from a Celtic supporter who revels in singing about Ira atrocities. | |||
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"France is a safe country and the last time I looked is definitely not war torn. Stick the illegals on a ferry and return them to Calais
A better option is the Royal Navy in the channel.
Dinghies don't react well to bullets.
Once a few get sunk, the problem will be over.
So your solution is to either shoot or drown them. Not really the sort of suggestion you get from good law abiding people, more like you would get from the Nazi’s.
Good law abiding people don't enter foreign countries illegally."And good law abiding people don’t advocate mass murder of those they don’t like! | |||
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"Good law abiding people don't advocate murder on internet forums. That’s a bit rich from a Celtic supporter who revels in singing about Ira atrocities. "  | |||
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"Good law abiding people don't advocate murder on internet forums. That’s a bit rich from a Celtic supporter who revels in singing about Ira atrocities. " ... ... Wheres your evidence I do so? A tad rich to assume.. FYI I don't. Were you horrified by Adair et al? | |||
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"Good law abiding people don't advocate murder on internet forums. That’s a bit rich from a Celtic supporter who revels in singing about Ira atrocities. ... ... Wheres your evidence I do so? A tad rich to assume.. FYI I don't. Were you horrified by Adair et al?" Celtic eh. If I had one son, I'd have another ten........ | |||
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"Good law abiding people don't advocate murder on internet forums. That’s a bit rich from a Celtic supporter who revels in singing about Ira atrocities. ... ... Wheres your evidence I do so? A tad rich to assume.. FYI I don't. Were you horrified by Adair et al?" Oh right it must be a different Richey from Aberdeen lol. All terrorists are scum | |||
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"Let there be no mistake, the UK is being invaded, plain and simple. The Left's reckless open-door policy is an affront to our nation's sovereignty. Our infrastructure is buckling under the strain, and our economy is struggling to support its own people. Yet when we dare to speak out, the Left resorts to bullying tactics, branding us Right-Wing extremist Neo-Natzis and racists which is far from reality. The Left's agenda is a clear and it presenta a serious danger to our country's very fabric. We are are proud and patriotic British people who will not be silenced. We will not be intimidated by the bullying tactics of the Left who seem to be hellbent on destroying all we have in the UK. We demand action from Starmer and his government here and now to protect our nation and its people!! Rule Brittania! 🇬🇧 Cymru am byth! 🏴" I think your Union Jack underpants are a bit tight this morning judging by what I read above. Mr Devanian, the ‘Left’ have been in power for just over a year, the ‘Right’ the previous 14 years. All this issue with the migrants is the fault of the ‘Left’? I have not been here long but from what I see you write on these contentious posts seems to be nothing more than bitter and blind allegiance. Just spout anything to berate the current government without the wherewithal of actually being genuine and unbiased and at the very least acknowledging that this issue has been years in the making, as Mr WildWestHero above has the maturity to do. A person with as much life and alleged professional experience as yourself is doing himself a disservice by behaving the way you are behaving on here. | |||
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"In the interests of safety Wouldn't simple solution be to relocate them to one of those unoccupied Scottish islands Obviously with services facilities etc Sounds like a sensible plan Except when you think about it, how much is it going to cost the taxpayer to build the ships to take all the supplies and people there, and the dock on the island for the ships to be able to dock there and unload, and all the builders and materials to build the accommodation in the first place? Absolutely. It'd be much cheaper to stick a gun boat in the channel. A few hundred 50 cal rounds and the invasion would stop instantly. Bargain." I wish I could say I was shocked by reading this however seeing who the poster is, it sadly comes as no surprise. | |||
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"Good law abiding people don't advocate murder on internet forums. That’s a bit rich from a Celtic supporter who revels in singing about Ira atrocities. ... ... Wheres your evidence I do so? A tad rich to assume.. FYI I don't. Were you horrified by Adair et al? Oh right it must be a different Richey from Aberdeen lol. All terrorists are scum " ... 🇵🇸Correct. I don't sing such songs. It's always Republican terrorism you mention re Ireland. When have you ever criticised the UDA or UVF?🇵🇸 | |||
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"Let there be no mistake, the UK is being invaded, plain and simple. The Left's reckless open-door policy is an affront to our nation's sovereignty. Our infrastructure is buckling under the strain, and our economy is struggling to support its own people. Yet when we dare to speak out, the Left resorts to bullying tactics, branding us Right-Wing extremist Neo-Natzis and racists which is far from reality. The Left's agenda is a clear and it presenta a serious danger to our country's very fabric. We are are proud and patriotic British people who will not be silenced. We will not be intimidated by the bullying tactics of the Left who seem to be hellbent on destroying all we have in the UK. We demand action from Starmer and his government here and now to protect our nation and its people!! Rule Brittania! 🇬🇧 Cymru am byth! 🏴 I think your Union Jack underpants are a bit tight this morning judging by what I read above. Mr Devanian, the ‘Left’ have been in power for just over a year, the ‘Right’ the previous 14 years. All this issue with the migrants is the fault of the ‘Left’? I have not been here long but from what I see you write on these contentious posts seems to be nothing more than bitter and blind allegiance. Just spout anything to berate the current government without the wherewithal of actually being genuine and unbiased and at the very least acknowledging that this issue has been years in the making, as Mr WildWestHero above has the maturity to do. A person with as much life and alleged professional experience as yourself is doing himself a disservice by behaving the way you are behaving on here. " Another one having a laugh. The 'left' pretty much run the entire public sector in the UK. A 'right' government has, and had, no chance of doing anything they disagreed with, as well you know. | |||
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"Something that people don’t seem to realise because the media don’t seem to report it (I wonder why that is🤔) is that this government has been removing record numbers whose claims have failed. Absolute bollocks. They remove nobody, except maybe a few Albanians. For fuck suck, even Pakistani kiddie rapists are not deported. You're talking bollocks mate. Believe what you want but facts are facts - I’ll take facts any day over some Wooly deluded fantasies from zealots. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/home-office-smashes-targets-with-mass-surge-in-migrant-removals You believe what the government says. Christ, you really are gullible. I'm sure there will be a public inquiry in 30 years, once we are a fully fledged third world shit hole. So where are your figures to refute this? And I don’t mean some headline from the Daily Fail designed to sell more copy by outraging people." Faux outrage requires no facts…them on ‘X’ said it so it’s clearly more reliable that a government source. | |||
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"Worn torn country my arse there crossing loads of safe country’s to get here I really hope one of ur family gets affected by one of these illegal again illegal migrants let’s see your stance then " Maybe some of your spewings could be affected more by a comma and less by aggressive wishes of misfortune on those who disagree with you? | |||
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"It's a real shame that there is no one Like Winston Churchill was not around now He and the Home Guard did a great job of keeping Hitler's lot out. Since Maggie Thatcher, we've had dippy Fannies for a government " Churchill also had a huge amount of help from Russia and the USA in keeping them out. Although. They failed to do so in the Channel Islands. The Home Guard would only have been deployed after an invasion - they were not sent abroad. Also, we declared war on Germany so shooting people was perfectly acceptable. I think the two situations are so different that a comparison adds little. | |||
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"We demand action From The Maybot El Spaffle The Toby Jug Nah, of course not... 🤭" Yes the Tories did fail. Many of us are angry that they did fail. That is why they are not doing very well in the opinion polls and many despairing, one time loyal Conservatives are switching to Reform as, no doubt, are quite a few of the more sensible, and now disillusioned, former Labour voters. Plus add to your list of failures: Breath of Stale Blair Boom 'n Bust Brown Sir Kipper Stoma. | |||
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"If you want a solution that could work, is fair and humane I’ll give you one BUT (and here is the rub) it would require the agreement of the French. Part 1 - we establish an asylum application office in northern France. Applicants would be required to provide identity documents and other supporting documentation for their claim. They would also be photographed and fingered. Claims would need to be processed quickly (say a max of 8 weeks). Those whose claims are accepted would be brought over by the UK government and settled. Those whose claims failed would be barred from entering the UK. Part 2 - anyone attempting to cross the channel in small boats would be intercepted, Photographed and fingerprinted. If they have never applied then they are returned to France and will be barred from applying and treated as a failed claim in future, if however they have claimed and failed they will be returned to their country of origin. That would allow for a legal route to be able to apply, it would make the smuggling gangs less attractive, and it would be an active discouragement to small boat crossings." Bloody auto correct that should be fingerprinted NOT fingered - don’t want anyone getting too excited 🤣 | |||
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"It's a real shame that there is no one Like Winston Churchill was not around now He and the Home Guard did a great job of keeping Hitler's lot out. Since Maggie Thatcher, we've had dippy Fannies for a government Churchill also had a huge amount of help from Russia and the USA in keeping them out. Although. They failed to do so in the Channel Islands. The Home Guard would only have been deployed after an invasion - they were not sent abroad. Also, we declared war on Germany so shooting people was perfectly acceptable. I think the two situations are so different that a comparison adds little. " Also if you look at Churchill’s record before WW2 it is not great. He sent in troops against miners in Tonypandy, and he also deployed them in Sidney Street- two items that come to mind. Yes he was good in WW2 but that is about it. | |||
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"I would say that this level of hatred of others, hidden behind some make believe care for the country, some faux patriotism or feigned concern about public services was laughable. Unfortunately, it seems that the once oppressed have now become the oppressors. Sad reality of this country. 20+ years of hating anyone who's brown or slightly darker than your average Brit has led to these outrageous, vile statements being made. The worst part is the gutlessness of it all. Too afraid to actually say "I'm a racist and I hate all foreign people" and crying whataboutisms whenever someone dares challenge their fragile little beliefs. Truly, truly pathetic." | |||
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"If you don’t think they should be in isolation, why not have some living with you? Transport them on container ships to Aberdeen, Richey6 is very keen to offer his hospitality, there's also thousands of wild acres of highland Aberdeenshire where they can build their own ghettos with funding from the Scottish Parliament!! Problem Solved! " ... ... 🏴 Puerile attention seeking? For someone who talked themselves up in terms of their academic ability a couple of weeks ago to post that! The crumb of consolation being the discarding of Alistair.. 😂🤭 | |||
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"Omg being brave to protest over illegal yes illegal men in boats invading our country makes u a racist or nazi use lefties are a joke " But they do sure as hell attract a lot of racists and nazi´s and feral types. Guardian article from a FOI act showed out of 899 arrested 41% people arrested over southport riots had criminal records for domestic abuse.THAT is quality of knuckle draggers that love these protests. | |||
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" Here a solution for all you who dislike this Labour government why don't you all march on Whitehall and Downing Street and physically removed Sir Keir Stammer and Rachel Reeves from power and run the country yourself and see how far you get ." That suggestion is totally and bizarrely absurd and impractical, not even a solution but a formula for anarchy although of course no surprise there as it comes from the erroneous thoughts of a Labour supporter! 😆 | |||
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"I can't believe people think there is rational discussion on this topic now. It's been weaponised. The Guardian talks about migrants now living here in fear. Gbnews talks about local residents and children living in fear. These are polar opposites perspectives. That's why I think this gets worse before it gets better. There's a common ground though. The government looks incompetent either way." ... .. 🤡Clearly on here rational discourse by some posters has been offered which is the antithesis of the unobjective polemic offered by others.This is not the same as rational discussion which is obviously a two-way process. It's being weaponised by the Tommy Robinsons and the Katie Hopkins who want to make money out of the divide. 🤡 | |||
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" Here a solution for all you who dislike this Labour government why don't you all march on Whitehall and Downing Street and physically removed Sir Keir Stammer and Rachel Reeves from power and run the country yourself and see how far you get . That suggestion is totally and bizarrely absurd and impractical, not even a solution but a formula for anarchy although of course no surprise there as it comes from the erroneous thoughts of a Labour supporter! 😆 " ... .. 🏴 Bizarrely absurd. But...but.... Container ships... 😭 | |||
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"Let there be no mistake, the UK is being invaded, plain and simple. The Left's reckless open-door policy is an affront to our nation's sovereignty. Our infrastructure is buckling under the strain, and our economy is struggling to support its own people. Yet when we dare to speak out, the Left resorts to bullying tactics, branding us Right-Wing extremist Neo-Natzis and racists which is far from reality. The Left's agenda is a clear and it presenta a serious danger to our country's very fabric. We are are proud and patriotic British people who will not be silenced. We will not be intimidated by the bullying tactics of the Left who seem to be hellbent on destroying all we have in the UK. We demand action from Starmer and his government here and now to protect our nation and its people!! Rule Brittania! 🇬🇧 Cymru am byth! 🏴 I think your Union Jack underpants are a bit tight this morning judging by what I read above. Mr Devanian, the ‘Left’ have been in power for just over a year, the ‘Right’ the previous 14 years. All this issue with the migrants is the fault of the ‘Left’? I have not been here long but from what I see you write on these contentious posts seems to be nothing more than bitter and blind allegiance. Just spout anything to berate the current government without the wherewithal of actually being genuine and unbiased and at the very least acknowledging that this issue has been years in the making, as Mr WildWestHero above has the maturity to do. A person with as much life and alleged professional experience as yourself is doing himself a disservice by behaving the way you are behaving on here. Your sarcastic comment about Union Jack underpants is a pathetic attempt at humour possibly indicative of an associated fetish! Get serious. The fact remains that the Left's open-door policy is an affront to our nation's sovereignty, regardless of how long they've been in power. The previous 14 years of Conservative governance doesn't change the fact that the current government's policies are a serious danger to our country. My writing is not 'bitter and blind allegiance' as you claim, it's a passionate defence of our nation and its people. I will not apologise for standing up for what I believe in. As for being 'genuine and unbiased' :- You're the one making ridiculous sarcastic comments! I'm addressing the issue at hand, not resorting to childish playground insults. And in a final note, I acknowledge that this issue has been years in the making. But that doesn't excuse the current government's reckless policies. We demand action from Starmer and his government here and now to protect our nation and its people. " ... .... 🏴 'Get Serious'...Ahem. What was the nonsense about ghettos all about then? A crude attempt at satire is all it was. Did you post your concerns about sovereignty when crossings were made whilst Braverman was Home Secretary? Patel? What has specifically changed since Labour came to power in terms of how people enter the country? What has changed that there is a threat to sovereignty? Hyperbole over objectivity. Re childish/playground, the irony being the intellectual level of thought being offered via the hyperbole... You speak only for yourself. There is no 'we'. Others will agree with you but ultimately you are offering your individual 'musings'... Did you demand action when Sunak broke the record? Allegiance as per. The problem didn't suddenly begin when Labour came to power. The hypocrisy and inability to accept that the tories played their part is quite something! 🏴 | |||
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"Close to where I used to live they briefly house about 250 so-called asylum seekers/refugees in a former army camp. All male and all young. They made a nuisance of themselves in the nearby town hanging around a girls school and forcing people off pavements. They complained about being 'isolated', having to share washing facilities and rooms. Complained about the food. Complained there was no mosque in the area. After a few short months they got moved. Sounds like they come over here illegally and univited and expect luxury." And just across the road from where a close friend of mine lives there were rioting protesters last year - that was the one where a 13 year old girl was arrested amongst the others for violent disorder. These people are nothing but troublemakers. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/clyg90d4d14t | |||
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"If you want a solution that could work, is fair and humane I’ll give you one BUT (and here is the rub) it would require the agreement of the French. Part 1 - we establish an asylum application office in northern France. Applicants would be required to provide identity documents and other supporting documentation for their claim. They would also be photographed and fingered. Claims would need to be processed quickly (say a max of 8 weeks). Those whose claims are accepted would be brought over by the UK government and settled. Those whose claims failed would be barred from entering the UK. Part 2 - anyone attempting to cross the channel in small boats would be intercepted, Photographed and fingerprinted. If they have never applied then they are returned to France and will be barred from applying and treated as a failed claim in future, if however they have claimed and failed they will be returned to their country of origin. That would allow for a legal route to be able to apply, it would make the smuggling gangs less attractive, and it would be an active discouragement to small boat crossings." Why do you wish to transfer all the issues to France? What if France responds by saying, 'No, you are not permitted to have any office here; we can manage these matters more effectively than you.' It amuses me that no one seems interested in reading about international law here. | |||
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"I also think it’s marvellous so many people are voicing their concerns, the fact they have to ship in “the left” to try to convince everyone we are so divided on this topic - why aren’t they there anyway- from each neighbourhood??? Problem is they’re just kicking the can down the street instead of stopping the boats Before the usual suspects try to convince me otherwise- answer me this - how many is too many ? Anyone arriving on our shores via a dinghy/small boat is one too many. If genuine asylum seekers want to come here they can do so via aircraft or ferry and expect to be properly vetted before being allowed to stay. Legitimate immigrations with jobs and accommodation already prepared are hardly a problem." exactly - but too many undocumented young men (only) flooding our streets , not integrating & getting a free ride is just unacceptable | |||
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"Let there be no mistake, the UK is being invaded, plain and simple. The Left's reckless open-door policy is an affront to our nation's sovereignty. Our infrastructure is buckling under the strain, and our economy is struggling to support its own people. Yet when we dare to speak out, the Left resorts to bullying tactics, branding us Right-Wing extremist Neo-Natzis and racists which is far from reality. The Left's agenda is a clear and it presenta a serious danger to our country's very fabric. We are are proud and patriotic British people who will not be silenced. We will not be intimidated by the bullying tactics of the Left who seem to be hellbent on destroying all we have in the UK. We demand action from Starmer and his government here and now to protect our nation and its people!! Rule Brittania! 🇬🇧 Cymru am byth! 🏴 I think your Union Jack underpants are a bit tight this morning judging by what I read above. Mr Devanian, the ‘Left’ have been in power for just over a year, the ‘Right’ the previous 14 years. All this issue with the migrants is the fault of the ‘Left’? I have not been here long but from what I see you write on these contentious posts seems to be nothing more than bitter and blind allegiance. Just spout anything to berate the current government without the wherewithal of actually being genuine and unbiased and at the very least acknowledging that this issue has been years in the making, as Mr WildWestHero above has the maturity to do. A person with as much life and alleged professional experience as yourself is doing himself a disservice by behaving the way you are behaving on here. Your sarcastic comment about Union Jack underpants is a pathetic attempt at humour possibly indicative of an associated fetish! Get serious. The fact remains that the Left's open-door policy is an affront to our nation's sovereignty, regardless of how long they've been in power. The previous 14 years of Conservative governance doesn't change the fact that the current government's policies are a serious danger to our country. My writing is not 'bitter and blind allegiance' as you claim, it's a passionate defence of our nation and its people. I will not apologise for standing up for what I believe in. As for being 'genuine and unbiased' :- You're the one making ridiculous sarcastic comments! I'm addressing the issue at hand, not resorting to childish playground insults. And in a final note, I acknowledge that this issue has been years in the making. But that doesn't excuse the current government's reckless policies. We demand action from Starmer and his government here and now to protect our nation and its people. " Can’t say I have a particular fetish for underwear although I might be tempted on the right person. Would be great if you had demanded equal action and displayed equal anger towards the previous government to protect the nation as you put it. I was not around to say, however my instincts are saying you were quiet on the matter when ‘your boys’ were in power. I may be wrong but my instincts have yet to fail me. I too am a true and proud British citizen. Born and raised here and paid my dues to the country and been rewarded in return. Patriotism is not reserved for those on the political right. There were no insults on my end sir, just observations based on what you wrote and the passion you wrote it with. As for childish comments and playground level activity I refer you to your comment a few posts up where you said sending them all to Mr Richeys neck of the woods. Also your sudden addition of the flags and statements alongside is clearly a childish or should I say immature way of ‘going at it’ with a forum user you disgree with. That’s hardly an educated and thought out behaviour is it, it’s playground behaviour and comments directed at someone you clearly disagree with. Do unto others as you would like done unto you Mr Devanian. As a final note, do I believe this government is faultless? Not in the slightest, on a number of issues they have fallen short. I do however believe they are attempting to walk before they run. Things may or may not fall into place, as with many previous governments. Only time will tell. | |||
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"If...t NIMBY's if if that was suggested. .... . 🏴 It's the state's responsibility. This hypothetical is utterly meaningless.🏴 No it's not... The charity in Derby which looks up those seeking refugee with those offering is called Upbeat Communities. If you want to know the terms and any financials they can advise. There will be others in your area. I don't have a problem with pro migrant people offering direct assistance tbh." Thank you for the information. Given something like, at most 3% of migrants are illegal, and 85% get leave to remain, What is the opposition to allowing those who are awaiting processing being allowed to work? And why are we using hotels for anyone who is of sound mind and body that doesn't have kids? Why not have secure units for those not competent, infirm, separate for substance abuse and sperate again as transient accomodation for those of working age. I'm talking three wall roof and tent with a bathroom. And make that the universal standard. On a waiting list for over crowding? Twelve months under canvas may speed up your application, or you can wait.... People are pissed off because of waste but also preferential treatment. And both aspects need to be addressed. | |||
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"Why do you wish to transfer all the issues to France? What if France responds by saying, 'No, you are not permitted to have any office here; we can manage these matters more effectively than you.' It amuses me that no one seems interested in reading about international law here." You obviously want to just play games - as I said in the opening part - it would require the agreement of the French government. But if you look at the benefits it would provide it would be a workable solution. 1. No incentive for people to pay people smugglers. 2. French wouldn’t need to keep on patrolling the coast as anyone complaining over would be automatically returned. 3. Disincentivise people from trying small boats as they would bar themselves from legally applying. UK Would need to agree a treaty with the French to make it work but it could be beneficial for everyone except the people smugglers - one way of smashing the gangs - just put them out of business. | |||
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"If...t NIMBY's if if that was suggested. .... . 🏴 It's the state's responsibility. This hypothetical is utterly meaningless.🏴 No it's not... The charity in Derby which looks up those seeking refugee with those offering is called Upbeat Communities. If you want to know the terms and any financials they can advise. There will be others in your area. I don't have a problem with pro migrant people offering direct assistance tbh. Thank you for the information. Given something like, at most 3% of migrants are illegal, and 85% get leave to remain, What is the opposition to allowing those who are awaiting processing being allowed to work? And why are we using hotels for anyone who is of sound mind and body that doesn't have kids? Why not have secure units for those not competent, infirm, separate for substance abuse and sperate again as transient accomodation for those of working age. I'm talking three wall roof and tent with a bathroom. And make that the universal standard. On a waiting list for over crowding? Twelve months under canvas may speed up your application, or you can wait.... People are pissed off because of waste but also preferential treatment. And both aspects need to be addressed. They tried the bibby Stockholm, the illegals didn’t like it , though apparently it was ok before even being upgraded for oil workers . They tried moth balled army camps the illegals didn’t like them either and in some cases set them on fire though again they apparently where ok for our military before being upgraded for illegals . Where have these illegals been resting their heads on the torturous journey to get to Britain one may ask, that is so much better than the above examples. If they are used to better accommodations perhaps they should not of bothered coming to Britain in the first place and should pack their bag and baggage, climb back into their dingy and wait the next out going tide" Thats where things are wrong. Who cares if the immigrants dont like it? They are bottom of food chain in the UK, never contributed and on the take, they get what they are given or they can fuck off. Its time we scrapped hotels and put them in tents. | |||
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"As I’ve said before, beef up the security on ex military camps, put as many bunk beds in each room as possible, provide basic foods, proper sanitation and don’t let them leave the camp. That’ll bring the numbers down A rather disturbing proposal, what are your thoughts on concentration camps?" Why disturbing? It makes perfect sense, they have entered the UK illegally , therefore they are criminals. I’d prefer them in prison but beggars can’t be choosers | |||
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"Why are they crossing loads of safe country’s to get here ask yourself that my dad was killed on the beaches of Normandy stopping the nazis invading our country now we’re just allowing foreign men of fighting age to come everyday all the fallen soildiers must b turning in there graves ... ... Turning in their graves at the mindset of those who hate foreigners and muslims? There are women and children crossing the channel as well. They aren't coming to impose sharia law on your neighbourhood." There are women and children crossing illegally, true, but not many. In fact the number is quite small. If the illegals arriving so far this year (44,125 people) 71% were men over 18. 18% were children under 18. The remaining 11% were women of of unknown gender. So that's the equivalent of 27,900 18+ men this year so far. All of these men are here illegally, are completely unknown quantities and more than probably followers of Islam. That means they HATE people like us. So if you want to survive you'd better learn to fly because they'll be chucking you from a tall building the first chance they get. Islamic countries are not known for their liberalism or their human rights. How many Pride marches were there in Qatar this year? A country is not just a piece of land, it's the people living in it. Change the people in a country and the country changes. They traditionally have large families and the city demographics are already reflecting this. It won't be a problem for decades. We'll be dead by the time our country's best qualities have been snuffed out by the medieval beliefs of this desert death cult. But it is going to happen unless we try to stop it right now. | |||
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"Why are they crossing loads of safe country’s to get here ask yourself that my dad was killed on the beaches of Normandy stopping the nazis invading our country now we’re just allowing foreign men of fighting age to come everyday all the fallen soildiers must b turning in there graves ... ... Turning in their graves at the mindset of those who hate foreigners and muslims? There are women and children crossing the channel as well. They aren't coming to impose sharia law on your neighbourhood." If only this was not true . Didn’t they say that about immigrants who came here, over last 40 years . They created ghettos and towns , even cities where the original habitat refuse to tread . Pushed for more more Mosques . Sharia law . Even Manchester council has vacancy for sharia law administration now . Jewish taken areas in London . Hindus one if not Biggest temple in Europe in Neasden London . Don’t fool yourself look at country . It’s a refuse for rubbish in world . Like Arab guy said from Emirate’s They clear the rubbish criminals from countries dump them on Europe . Work shy unskilled uneducated criminals. Trump right when he said that why countries don’t want these young men . Because they no good people , running to UK because they know there’s not prison but sanctuary . We know idea who they are . But I look at other major cities in Europe see carnage they created and fear . If Starmer saying he deported 35.000 then deport another 1-5 million . Make Britain a respectful good place to live . Not shithole dump it’s becoming . Well already is. Fear for your children and Grandchildren as they become the minority and victims to Islam hatred . This government need to be watched under Tony Blair Elite globalist organisation , who are very powerful and wealthy enough , to buy ( already shown Lord Ali ) Starmer and front benches with gifts and rent boys of Grinder . He was warned if don’t do as he told ? Arson happens. Remember these people at very top are ruthless . To keep and stay powerfull . Disposal of enemy no problem . They kill their own family . | |||
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"Why are they crossing loads of safe country’s to get here ask yourself that my dad was killed on the beaches of Normandy stopping the nazis invading our country now we’re just allowing foreign men of fighting age to come everyday all the fallen soildiers must b turning in there graves ... ... Turning in their graves at the mindset of those who hate foreigners and muslims? There are women and children crossing the channel as well. They aren't coming to impose sharia law on your neighbourhood. If only this was not true . Didn’t they say that about immigrants who came here, over last 40 years . They created ghettos and towns , even cities where the original habitat refuse to tread . Pushed for more more Mosques . Sharia law . Even Manchester council has vacancy for sharia law administration now . Jewish taken areas in London . Hindus one if not Biggest temple in Europe in Neasden London . Don’t fool yourself look at country . It’s a refuse for rubbish in world . Like Arab guy said from Emirate’s They clear the rubbish criminals from countries dump them on Europe . Work shy unskilled uneducated criminals. Trump right when he said that why countries don’t want these young men . Because they no good people , running to UK because they know there’s not prison but sanctuary . We know idea who they are . But I look at other major cities in Europe see carnage they created and fear . If Starmer saying he deported 35.000 then deport another 1-5 million . Make Britain a respectful good place to live . Not shithole dump it’s becoming . Well already is. Fear for your children and Grandchildren as they become the minority and victims to Islam hatred . This government need to be watched under Tony Blair Elite globalist organisation , who are very powerful and wealthy enough , to buy ( already shown Lord Ali ) Starmer and front benches with gifts and rent boys of Grinder . He was warned if don’t do as he told ? Arson happens. Remember these people at very top are ruthless . To keep and stay powerfull . Disposal of enemy no problem . They kill their own family . " ... ... 🤔 Society created ghettos. 'No Blacks, No Irish, No Dogs'. Why should people from a certain country and/or religion not want to live amongst themselves though when in a new country. It's hardly unreasonable. The country you talk of isn't what I see in the city I live in. What you see in the sticks and in London Town isn't a carbon copy elsewhere. Ever since 9/11, the UK has been on the precipice of a takeover by radical islam. It's not happening anytime soon though. Have asylum seekers taken over the mosques of english cities as they form their batallions? They haven't. It used to be the Muslim who was the bogeyman. Currently it's the Illegal Immigrant Of Fighting Age... | |||
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"Army veterans in homes in Farnworth are now being evicted to make way for immigrants.This is not right and Starmer doesnt give a toss." Seriously? That’s a story from 2 years ago, and if you are ill informed enough to believe it, it was Rishi Sunak or Truss or Johnson or one of the merry go round of Tory leaders that were running the country at that time that would be to blame IF it were true, but it’s not. You can access fabguys so why not use the same technology to fact check before you post codswallop on here? | |||
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"Army veterans in homes in Farnworth are now being evicted to make way for immigrants.This is not right and Starmer doesnt give a toss. Seriously? That’s a story from 2 years ago, and if you are ill informed enough to believe it, it was Rishi Sunak or Truss or Johnson or one of the merry go round of Tory leaders that were running the country at that time that would be to blame IF it were true, but it’s not. You can access fabguys so why not use the same technology to fact check before you post codswallop on here? "Let's not let the truth get in the way of a good story. | |||
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"Why do you wish to transfer all the issues to France? What if France responds by saying, 'No, you are not permitted to have any office here; we can manage these matters more effectively than you.' It amuses me that no one seems interested in reading about international law here. You obviously want to just play games - as I said in the opening part - it would require the agreement of the French government. But if you look at the benefits it would provide it would be a workable solution. 1. No incentive for people to pay people smugglers. 2. French wouldn’t need to keep on patrolling the coast as anyone complaining over would be automatically returned. 3. Disincentivise people from trying small boats as they would bar themselves from legally applying. UK Would need to agree a treaty with the French to make it work but it could be beneficial for everyone except the people smugglers - one way of smashing the gangs - just put them out of business." Why do you believe I engage in gaming? I merely requested that you educate yourself on international law | |||
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"Has anybody on here managed to enter a country without a passport. I am all for immigration and asylum seekers but the vast majority of illegals are economic migrants costing over £5 billion a year while homeless and veterans are on the streets." | |||
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"Why are they crossing loads of safe country’s to get here ask yourself that my dad was killed on the beaches of Normandy stopping the nazis invading our country now we’re just allowing foreign men of fighting age to come everyday all the fallen soildiers must b turning in there graves ... ... Turning in their graves at the mindset of those who hate foreigners and muslims? There are women and children crossing the channel as well. They aren't coming to impose sharia law on your neighbourhood. There are women and children crossing illegally, true, but not many. In fact the number is quite small. If the illegals arriving so far this year (44,125 people) 71% were men over 18. 18% were children under 18. The remaining 11% were women of of unknown gender. So that's the equivalent of 27,900 18+ men this year so far. All of these men are here illegally, are completely unknown quantities and more than probably followers of Islam. That means they HATE people like us. So if you want to survive you'd better learn to fly because they'll be chucking you from a tall building the first chance they get. Islamic countries are not known for their liberalism or their human rights. How many Pride marches were there in Qatar this year? A country is not just a piece of land, it's the people living in it. Change the people in a country and the country changes. They traditionally have large families and the city demographics are already reflecting this. It won't be a problem for decades. We'll be dead by the time our country's best qualities have been snuffed out by the medieval beliefs of this desert death cult. But it is going to happen unless we try to stop it right now." What utter nonsense. Do you truly believe that all Muslims attend mosques and pray? What kind of reasoning is that? Many of those individuals on the boat have fled from Talibans and mullahs If your government and the rest of Europe had not been negligent regarding that region, there would be no Taliban or Mullahs. | |||
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"Has anybody on here managed to enter a country without a passport. I am all for immigration and asylum seekers but the vast majority of illegals are economic migrants costing over £5 billion a year while homeless and veterans are on the streets. "I have dedicated many years to assisting homeless individuals, yet I have never witnessed anyone stepping up to take their place. Trust me, it is incredibly challenging to get them into temporary housing, but the very next day, they return to the streets and sleep outdoors. | |||
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"Why are they crossing loads of safe country’s to get here ask yourself that my dad was killed on the beaches of Normandy stopping the nazis invading our country now we’re just allowing foreign men of fighting age to come everyday all the fallen soildiers must b turning in there graves ... ... Turning in their graves at the mindset of those who hate foreigners and muslims? There are women and children crossing the channel as well. They aren't coming to impose sharia law on your neighbourhood. There are women and children crossing illegally, true, but not many. In fact the number is quite small. If the illegals arriving so far this year (44,125 people) 71% were men over 18. 18% were children under 18. The remaining 11% were women of of unknown gender. So that's the equivalent of 27,900 18+ men this year so far. All of these men are here illegally, are completely unknown quantities and more than probably followers of Islam. That means they HATE people like us. So if you want to survive you'd better learn to fly because they'll be chucking you from a tall building the first chance they get. Islamic countries are not known for their liberalism or their human rights. How many Pride marches were there in Qatar this year? A country is not just a piece of land, it's the people living in it. Change the people in a country and the country changes. They traditionally have large families and the city demographics are already reflecting this. It won't be a problem for decades. We'll be dead by the time our country's best qualities have been snuffed out by the medieval beliefs of this desert death cult. But it is going to happen unless we try to stop it right now. What utter nonsense. Do you truly believe that all Muslims attend mosques and pray? What kind of reasoning is that? Many of those individuals on the boat have fled from Talibans and mullahs If your government and the rest of Europe had not been negligent regarding that region, there would be no Taliban or Mullahs." Now THAT is utter nonsense. Why the hell are you on about? | |||
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"As I’ve said before, beef up the security on ex military camps, put as many bunk beds in each room as possible, provide basic foods, proper sanitation and don’t let them leave the camp. That’ll bring the numbers down A rather disturbing proposal, what are your thoughts on concentration camps? Why disturbing? It makes perfect sense, they have entered the UK illegally , therefore they are criminals. I’d prefer them in prison but beggars can’t be choosers
Do you intend to imprison Mo Farah, a three-time Olympic gold medalist? Who do you believe you are? Take your steak out of the fridge before gets expired . "Mo who Is that even his real name or something he made up after dumping his papers | |||
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"Nobody is getting thrown off the Shard anytime soon." No, not yet. But, Muslim families tend to be larger than British families with a higher fertility rate in Muslim women. So they have higher birth rates. The average age is much younger than the British average, 28 as opposed to 40, meaning more people of childbearing age. We are looking at close to 20% of the British population being Muslim by 2050, that's not taking into account the numbers who will arrive via immigration in the meantime. After this the native population will be in a tailspin that there will be no pulling out of. | |||
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"The sheer number of arrivals only means things are going to get worse. The BBC article describes a situation after someone is granted refugee status. They get 4 weeks before they have to leave the hotel accommodation. In theory councils have to find them somewhere, but as Derby illustrates, they are really struggling. Maybe boats like Bibby or camps are the only practical choice. Nobody here is stepping forward to house them." It’s not the civilian populations responsibility to house immigrants. We pay taxes and elect MPs to make these choices and decisions. | |||
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