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"If as a mentally and emotionally balanced and secure man, I put a post in here regarding the pleasure I get from seeing boobs or camel toes. Why does that make me a mysogynyst I have no dislike of women in race , colour,religion, body type , I have no problem with their successes and gain no pleasure from their losses I was brought up with good manners and still stand up in public transport for a woman and open doors. However being sexually attracted to women I cannot help but notice these things, yes I get enjoyment from those cheeky glimpses. I’m not undermining women or disrespecting them So why am I a misogynist What about the guys on forum who post about cock bulges, tradesman’s bodies etc Am I expected to believe that a gay man doesn’t notice or looks away from other guys in gym showers? I really don’t see the harm. Oh and this is a forum…it invites discussion…not censorship because an individual disagrees with another’s comments " It's all the gloating posts on here laughing about cheating on their wives "WIVES OUT COCKS OUT!!", sharing photos and stories about their wives without consent. Similarly the way women are spoken about is pretty appalling; 1970s working men's club level stuff that often dips below the sort of thing that I hear on civ eng and construction sites I work on in terms of degrading women (where people assume I'm straight). The difference between that and sexy gay roleplay is that the degradation stuff is consensual because the recipient is here. When you talk about women they aren't present so we have no idea if they consent to it. It's pretty gross considering many married closeted bi men here will have daughters. Finally as has been repeatedly pointed out, there are zero women on this site. It's a male-male hookup site for gay sexual encounters. It's bizarre that so many men on here have to endlessly bang on about how much they fancy women whilst simultaneously spending so much time on a site that is ONLY for gay sex with 0 biological women present in it. Major internalised homophobia going on, and as always homophobia is intrinsically linked to misogyny. It would be like me, a gay man joining a straight hookup site and then endlessly banging on about gay sex, the men I fancy and gay sexual exploits and then acting outraged when they inevitably told me that it's inappropriate for that sort of site and that they are bored of every discussion being hijacked to be about gay sex. It's just odd and makes no sense. | |||
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"If as a mentally and emotionally balanced and secure man, I put a post in here regarding the pleasure I get from seeing boobs or camel toes. Why does that make me a mysogynyst I have no dislike of women in race , colour,religion, body type , I have no problem with their successes and gain no pleasure from their losses I was brought up with good manners and still stand up in public transport for a woman and open doors. However being sexually attracted to women I cannot help but notice these things, yes I get enjoyment from those cheeky glimpses. I’m not undermining women or disrespecting them So why am I a misogynist What about the guys on forum who post about cock bulges, tradesman’s bodies etc Am I expected to believe that a gay man doesn’t notice or looks away from other guys in gym showers? I really don’t see the harm. Oh and this is a forum…it invites discussion…not censorship because an individual disagrees with another’s comments It's all the gloating posts on here laughing about cheating on their wives "WIVES OUT COCKS OUT!!", sharing photos and stories about their wives without consent. Similarly the way women are spoken about is pretty appalling; 1970s working men's club level stuff that often dips below the sort of thing that I hear on civ eng and construction sites I work on in terms of degrading women (where people assume I'm straight). The difference between that and sexy gay roleplay is that the degradation stuff is consensual because the recipient is here. When you talk about women they aren't present so we have no idea if they consent to it. It's pretty gross considering many married closeted bi men here will have daughters. Finally as has been repeatedly pointed out, there are zero women on this site. It's a male-male hookup site for gay sexual encounters. It's bizarre that so many men on here have to endlessly bang on about how much they fancy women whilst simultaneously spending so much time on a site that is ONLY for gay sex with 0 biological women present in it. Major internalised homophobia going on, and as always homophobia is intrinsically linked to misogyny. It would be like me, a gay man joining a straight hookup site and then endlessly banging on about gay sex, the men I fancy and gay sexual exploits and then acting outraged when they inevitably told me that it's inappropriate for that sort of site and that they are bored of every discussion being hijacked to be about gay sex. It's just odd and makes no sense. " Doesn’t make me a misogynist and I don’t discuss my wife or her pics | |||
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"If as a mentally and emotionally balanced and secure man, I put a post in here regarding the pleasure I get from seeing boobs or camel toes. Why does that make me a mysogynyst I have no dislike of women in race , colour,religion, body type , I have no problem with their successes and gain no pleasure from their losses I was brought up with good manners and still stand up in public transport for a woman and open doors. However being sexually attracted to women I cannot help but notice these things, yes I get enjoyment from those cheeky glimpses. I’m not undermining women or disrespecting them So why am I a misogynist What about the guys on forum who post about cock bulges, tradesman’s bodies etc Am I expected to believe that a gay man doesn’t notice or looks away from other guys in gym showers? I really don’t see the harm. Oh and this is a forum…it invites discussion…not censorship because an individual disagrees with another’s comments It's all the gloating posts on here laughing about cheating on their wives "WIVES OUT COCKS OUT!!", sharing photos and stories about their wives without consent. Similarly the way women are spoken about is pretty appalling; 1970s working men's club level stuff that often dips below the sort of thing that I hear on civ eng and construction sites I work on in terms of degrading women (where people assume I'm straight). The difference between that and sexy gay roleplay is that the degradation stuff is consensual because the recipient is here. When you talk about women they aren't present so we have no idea if they consent to it. It's pretty gross considering many married closeted bi men here will have daughters. Finally as has been repeatedly pointed out, there are zero women on this site. It's a male-male hookup site for gay sexual encounters. It's bizarre that so many men on here have to endlessly bang on about how much they fancy women whilst simultaneously spending so much time on a site that is ONLY for gay sex with 0 biological women present in it. Major internalised homophobia going on, and as always homophobia is intrinsically linked to misogyny. It would be like me, a gay man joining a straight hookup site and then endlessly banging on about gay sex, the men I fancy and gay sexual exploits and then acting outraged when they inevitably told me that it's inappropriate for that sort of site and that they are bored of every discussion being hijacked to be about gay sex. It's just odd and makes no sense. Doesn’t make me a misogynist and I don’t discuss my wife or her pics " I wasn't referring to yourself specifically, just speaking in general about what myself and others see on this site and why people have brought up misogyny and homophobia. I do stand by my point that it's inappropriate and frankly quite odd to be on a website exclusively for men (women can't join and there isn't even a profile option, only men if TVs) seeking gay sex, but then spend all their time talking about sex with women when there is quite literally no possibility of seeking sex with women on this site (try Fabswingers). It gives internalised homophobia and overcompensation vibes). Also RE "gay men oogle guys in changing rooms". This is exactly the sort of tired homophobia I'm talking about. We don't because we don't want to get into angry confrontation, experience physical violence or be banned. We may well cruise men who give us obvious signs that they are gay and interested but none of stand or sit there gasping at every man undressing in a leisure centre / gym changing room even if they are our 'type' for reasons explained above. Goes back to the idea of "bums against the walls chaps!" that every gay man is a sexual predator looking to take advantage and have sex with literally every man they see. As someone mainly into chubby hairy older men, 90% of men I see in gym changing rooms have about as much attraction to me as woman does. I.e. Zero. I certainly wouldn't oogle the rare 10% that I am attracted to without having obvious back and forth cruising signs because again, I don't want an argument, confrontation or to be banned, plus it's creepy and totally inappropriate behaviour in that environment. | |||
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"If as a mentally and emotionally balanced and secure man, I put a post in here regarding the pleasure I get from seeing boobs or camel toes. Why does that make me a mysogynyst I have no dislike of women in race , colour,religion, body type , I have no problem with their successes and gain no pleasure from their losses I was brought up with good manners and still stand up in public transport for a woman and open doors. However being sexually attracted to women I cannot help but notice these things, yes I get enjoyment from those cheeky glimpses. I’m not undermining women or disrespecting them So why am I a misogynist What about the guys on forum who post about cock bulges, tradesman’s bodies etc Am I expected to believe that a gay man doesn’t notice or looks away from other guys in gym showers? I really don’t see the harm. Oh and this is a forum…it invites discussion…not censorship because an individual disagrees with another’s comments It's all the gloating posts on here laughing about cheating on their wives "WIVES OUT COCKS OUT!!", sharing photos and stories about their wives without consent. Similarly the way women are spoken about is pretty appalling; 1970s working men's club level stuff that often dips below the sort of thing that I hear on civ eng and construction sites I work on in terms of degrading women (where people assume I'm straight). The difference between that and sexy gay roleplay is that the degradation stuff is consensual because the recipient is here. When you talk about women they aren't present so we have no idea if they consent to it. It's pretty gross considering many married closeted bi men here will have daughters. Finally as has been repeatedly pointed out, there are zero women on this site. It's a male-male hookup site for gay sexual encounters. It's bizarre that so many men on here have to endlessly bang on about how much they fancy women whilst simultaneously spending so much time on a site that is ONLY for gay sex with 0 biological women present in it. Major internalised homophobia going on, and as always homophobia is intrinsically linked to misogyny. It would be like me, a gay man joining a straight hookup site and then endlessly banging on about gay sex, the men I fancy and gay sexual exploits and then acting outraged when they inevitably told me that it's inappropriate for that sort of site and that they are bored of every discussion being hijacked to be about gay sex. It's just odd and makes no sense. Doesn’t make me a misogynist and I don’t discuss my wife or her pics I wasn't referring to yourself specifically, just speaking in general about what myself and others see on this site and why people have brought up misogyny and homophobia. I do stand by my point that it's inappropriate and frankly quite odd to be on a website exclusively for men (women can't join and there isn't even a profile option, only men if TVs) seeking gay sex, but then spend all their time talking about sex with women when there is quite literally no possibility of seeking sex with women on this site (try Fabswingers). It gives internalised homophobia and overcompensation vibes). Also RE "gay men oogle guys in changing rooms". This is exactly the sort of tired homophobia I'm talking about. We don't because we don't want to get into angry confrontation, experience physical violence or be banned. We may well cruise men who give us obvious signs that they are gay and interested but none of stand or sit there gasping at every man undressing in a leisure centre / gym changing room even if they are our 'type' for reasons explained above. Goes back to the idea of "bums against the walls chaps!" that every gay man is a sexual predator looking to take advantage and have sex with literally every man they see. As someone mainly into chubby hairy older men, 90% of men I see in gym changing rooms have about as much attraction to me as woman does. I.e. Zero. I certainly wouldn't oogle the rare 10% that I am attracted to without having obvious back and forth cruising signs because again, I don't want an argument, confrontation or to be banned, plus it's creepy and totally inappropriate behaviour in that environment." Very well explained and I totally agree  | |||
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"I wasn't referring to yourself specifically, just speaking in general about what myself and others see on this site and why people have brought up misogyny and homophobia. I do stand by my point that it's inappropriate and frankly quite odd to be on a website exclusively for men (women can't join and there isn't even a profile option, only men if TVs) seeking gay sex, but then spend all their time talking about sex with women when there is quite literally no possibility of seeking sex with women on this site (try Fabswingers). It gives internalised homophobia and overcompensation vibes). Also RE "gay men oogle guys in changing rooms". This is exactly the sort of tired homophobia I'm talking about. We don't because we don't want to get into angry confrontation, experience physical violence or be banned. We may well cruise men who give us obvious signs that they are gay and interested but none of stand or sit there gasping at every man undressing in a leisure centre / gym changing room even if they are our 'type' for reasons explained above. Goes back to the idea of "bums against the walls chaps!" that every gay man is a sexual predator looking to take advantage and have sex with literally every man they see. As someone mainly into chubby hairy older men, 90% of men I see in gym changing rooms have about as much attraction to me as woman does. I.e. Zero. I certainly wouldn't oogle the rare 10% that I am attracted to without having obvious back and forth cruising signs because again, I don't want an argument, confrontation or to be banned, plus it's creepy and totally inappropriate behaviour in that environment." Very well said | |||
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"I wasn't referring to yourself specifically, just speaking in general about what myself and others see on this site and why people have brought up misogyny and homophobia. I do stand by my point that it's inappropriate and frankly quite odd to be on a website exclusively for men (women can't join and there isn't even a profile option, only men if TVs) seeking gay sex, but then spend all their time talking about sex with women when there is quite literally no possibility of seeking sex with women on this site (try Fabswingers). It gives internalised homophobia and overcompensation vibes). Also RE "gay men oogle guys in changing rooms". This is exactly the sort of tired homophobia I'm talking about. We don't because we don't want to get into angry confrontation, experience physical violence or be banned. We may well cruise men who give us obvious signs that they are gay and interested but none of stand or sit there gasping at every man undressing in a leisure centre / gym changing room even if they are our 'type' for reasons explained above. Goes back to the idea of "bums against the walls chaps!" that every gay man is a sexual predator looking to take advantage and have sex with literally every man they see. As someone mainly into chubby hairy older men, 90% of men I see in gym changing rooms have about as much attraction to me as woman does. I.e. Zero. I certainly wouldn't oogle the rare 10% that I am attracted to without having obvious back and forth cruising signs because again, I don't want an argument, confrontation or to be banned, plus it's creepy and totally inappropriate behaviour in that environment." Bang on as always. The irony of someone attempting to refuting a bi male FG stereotype while proceeding to push a gay male stereotype.... Not to mention, the bi men who complain about FS women being choosy and not meeting them tend to overlap with the bi men who spout the misogynistic sentiment on here. Significant Venn Diagram overlap. | |||
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"If as a mentally and emotionally balanced and secure man, I put a post in here regarding the pleasure I get from seeing boobs or camel toes. Why does that make me a mysogynyst I have no dislike of women in race , colour,religion, body type , I have no problem with their successes and gain no pleasure from their losses I was brought up with good manners and still stand up in public transport for a woman and open doors. However being sexually attracted to women I cannot help but notice these things, yes I get enjoyment from those cheeky glimpses. I’m not undermining women or disrespecting them So why am I a misogynist What about the guys on forum who post about cock bulges, tradesman’s bodies etc Am I expected to believe that a gay man doesn’t notice or looks away from other guys in gym showers? I really don’t see the harm. Oh and this is a forum…it invites discussion…not censorship because an individual disagrees with another’s comments It's all the gloating posts on here laughing about cheating on their wives "WIVES OUT COCKS OUT!!", sharing photos and stories about their wives without consent. Similarly the way women are spoken about is pretty appalling; 1970s working men's club level stuff that often dips below the sort of thing that I hear on civ eng and construction sites I work on in terms of degrading women (where people assume I'm straight). The difference between that and sexy gay roleplay is that the degradation stuff is consensual because the recipient is here. When you talk about women they aren't present so we have no idea if they consent to it. It's pretty gross considering many married closeted bi men here will have daughters. Finally as has been repeatedly pointed out, there are zero women on this site. It's a male-male hookup site for gay sexual encounters. It's bizarre that so many men on here have to endlessly bang on about how much they fancy women whilst simultaneously spending so much time on a site that is ONLY for gay sex with 0 biological women present in it. Major internalised homophobia going on, and as always homophobia is intrinsically linked to misogyny. It would be like me, a gay man joining a straight hookup site and then endlessly banging on about gay sex, the men I fancy and gay sexual exploits and then acting outraged when they inevitably told me that it's inappropriate for that sort of site and that they are bored of every discussion being hijacked to be about gay sex. It's just odd and makes no sense. Doesn’t make me a misogynist and I don’t discuss my wife or her pics I wasn't referring to yourself specifically, just speaking in general about what myself and others see on this site and why people have brought up misogyny and homophobia. I do stand by my point that it's inappropriate and frankly quite odd to be on a website exclusively for men (women can't join and there isn't even a profile option, only men if TVs) seeking gay sex, but then spend all their time talking about sex with women when there is quite literally no possibility of seeking sex with women on this site (try Fabswingers). It gives internalised homophobia and overcompensation vibes). Also RE "gay men oogle guys in changing rooms". This is exactly the sort of tired homophobia I'm talking about. We don't because we don't want to get into angry confrontation, experience physical violence or be banned. We may well cruise men who give us obvious signs that they are gay and interested but none of stand or sit there gasping at every man undressing in a leisure centre / gym changing room even if they are our 'type' for reasons explained above. Goes back to the idea of "bums against the walls chaps!" that every gay man is a sexual predator looking to take advantage and have sex with literally every man they see. As someone mainly into chubby hairy older men, 90% of men I see in gym changing rooms have about as much attraction to me as woman does. I.e. Zero. I certainly wouldn't oogle the rare 10% that I am attracted to without having obvious back and forth cruising signs because again, I don't want an argument, confrontation or to be banned, plus it's creepy and totally inappropriate behaviour in that environment." Never said ogle When I’ve been in group showers frankly you cannot help but see a guys tackle I’m sure that if interested you would look again It’s not homophobic to say that These terms are thrown into debate without being the case such as ,you’re being racist, you’re being mysogynistic…when it’s not the case. Why blow a simple comment of looking at a guy in showers into sitting gasping and ogling. Having gay colleagues I can assure you that they do look, it’s natural, no one said sitting there tongues handing out. Similarly if I see a guy with a big cock…you just have to look again I think that you’re simply over emphasising in order to make a situation fit your views that they’re homophobic or misogynistic. I’m frankly struggling typing misogynistic and it’s derivatives so much | |||
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"Misogyny another word the feminist love to use Last Monday during one of those fly on wall ch5 police shows A woman said to the copper she wanted to feel his bum He laughed it off Now imagine if he said it to her " | |||
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"Misogyny another word the feminist love to use Last Monday during one of those fly on wall ch5 police shows A woman said to the copper she wanted to feel his bum He laughed it off Now imagine if he said it to her " So you think misogyny isn't real and a feminist construct? Good luck trying that line with my wife. Yes, she's a feminist and quite militant with it but I actually like that about her, am not remotely threatened by it, and unlike a lot of the sad married fucks here we're open and honest and happy together. | |||
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"Misogyny another word the feminist love to use Last Monday during one of those fly on wall ch5 police shows A woman said to the copper she wanted to feel his bum He laughed it off Now imagine if he said it to her So you think misogyny isn't real and a feminist construct? Good luck trying that line with my wife. Yes, she's a feminist and quite militant with it but I actually like that about her, am not remotely threatened by it, and unlike a lot of the sad married fucks here we're open and honest and happy together." And good luck to you! The keywords being open and honest - and indeed aware of the position and feelings of a woman in how you interact here with other men. | |||
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"Maybe if fabguys was used for gay men and bi men for cock activities meets horny chats stories or whatever etc and fabswingers for activities with women it might stop the bickering. If you like women you like women and that is fine why settle for second best? I love meeting bi men probably more so than gay men if honest. None of them ever ever mention female fun its all about cock and cum with men. It's doubtful you'll find a women on fabguys. Bi fun with men on fabguys bi fun with women on swingers quite easy really. It's not really about treating women disrespectfully i just think it is better discussed where the women are." A similar point to that which I and others have made on a number of occasions- the entitled response is usually something along the lines of “I’ll talk about whatever I want”. After all this is a Man on Man hook up site, certain bi’s sexualised postings have no place here other than to try and exclude or drive out those who have no interest in women’s reproductive organs. Those sort of discussions should be on the swingers site, or perhaps they are just too scared to post them where women may actually see them. | |||
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"This site has become about 1) gay or bi men who are seeking sex with other gay or bi men AND 2) bi men who just wanna perv over female news presenter, sniffing panties and talking about their wives. 1 great welcome your in the right place. 2 take the hint and realise when time after time the same discussions come up - you're in the wrong forum! This site is about men meeting men. Bi or gay or otherwise. Not for married guys talking about their wives and complaining about Bareback Sex/Rimming/or whatever other gay kink you disapprove of. " Well said | |||
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At least Kernowcub and _lackbootz have demonstrated extraordinary patience and clear-sightedness in responding to the often muddled and unjustifiable thinking displayed in these types of threads.
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"If only the site owners would pull their proverbial pants up 🤞😬
At least Kernowcub and _lackbootz have demonstrated extraordinary patience and clear-sightedness in responding to the often muddled and unjustifiable thinking displayed in these types of threads.
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"This site has become about 1) gay or bi men who are seeking sex with other gay or bi men AND 2) bi men who just wanna perv over female news presenter, sniffing panties and talking about their wives. 1 great welcome your in the right place. 2 take the hint and realise when time after time the same discussions come up - you're in the wrong forum! This site is about men meeting men. Bi or gay or otherwise. Not for married guys talking about their wives and complaining about Bareback Sex/Rimming/or whatever other gay kink you disapprove of. " You can have an opinion on what you think should or should not be allowed as a thread and what men can or can’t talk about in a thread but you don’t get to decide. If a thread is allowed, then….it’s allowed. End of. | |||
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"Maybe if fabguys was used for gay men and bi men for cock activities meets horny chats stories or whatever etc and fabswingers for activities with women it might stop the bickering. If you like women you like women and that is fine why settle for second best? I love meeting bi men probably more so than gay men if honest. None of them ever ever mention female fun its all about cock and cum with men. It's doubtful you'll find a women on fabguys. Bi fun with men on fabguys bi fun with women on swingers quite easy really. It's not really about treating women disrespectfully i just think it is better discussed where the women are. A similar point to that which I and others have made on a number of occasions- the entitled response is usually something along the lines of “I’ll talk about whatever I want”. After all this is a Man on Man hook up site, certain bi’s sexualised postings have no place here other than to try and exclude or drive out those who have no interest in women’s reproductive organs. Those sort of discussions should be on the swingers site, or perhaps they are just too scared to post them where women may actually see them." ...but we are entitled to talk about whatever we want....within the rules of course...just as you are... being offended on someone else's behalf.. isn't a good look. Relax, and enjoy the site... | |||
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"This site has become about 1) gay or bi men who are seeking sex with other gay or bi men AND 2) bi men who just wanna perv over female news presenter, sniffing panties and talking about their wives. 1 great welcome your in the right place. 2 take the hint and realise when time after time the same discussions come up - you're in the wrong forum! This site is about men meeting men. Bi or gay or otherwise. Not for married guys talking about their wives and complaining about Bareback Sex/Rimming/or whatever other gay kink you disapprove of. You can have an opinion on what you think should or should not be allowed as a thread and what men can or can’t talk about in a thread but you don’t get to decide. If a thread is allowed, then….it’s allowed. End of. " .....this is your final warning....stop making sense..  | |||
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"This site has become about 1) gay or bi men who are seeking sex with other gay or bi men AND 2) bi men who just wanna perv over female news presenter, sniffing panties and talking about their wives. 1 great welcome your in the right place. 2 take the hint and realise when time after time the same discussions come up - you're in the wrong forum! This site is about men meeting men. Bi or gay or otherwise. Not for married guys talking about their wives and complaining about Bareback Sex/Rimming/or whatever other gay kink you disapprove of. You can have an opinion on what you think should or should not be allowed as a thread and what men can or can’t talk about in a thread but you don’t get to decide. If a thread is allowed, then….it’s allowed. End of. " Over and over when the mods do get involved they say that married men can discuss woman/wives moderately if it relates to the thread. The word is moderately. I've been on and off this site since 2013 and over the last few years has taken a huge upturn in 'panty sniffing' talk Why don't married guys do it elsewhere? IE the site designed for that...fabswingers. Don't you realise how much posts about tits/panties/vaginas are totally anachronistic on a site for guys looking for gay sex. This is a site about men having sex with men. Nothing more, nothing less. | |||
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"This site has become about 1) gay or bi men who are seeking sex with other gay or bi men AND 2) bi men who just wanna perv over female news presenter, sniffing panties and talking about their wives. 1 great welcome your in the right place. 2 take the hint and realise when time after time the same discussions come up - you're in the wrong forum! This site is about men meeting men. Bi or gay or otherwise. Not for married guys talking about their wives and complaining about Bareback Sex/Rimming/or whatever other gay kink you disapprove of. You can have an opinion on what you think should or should not be allowed as a thread and what men can or can’t talk about in a thread but you don’t get to decide. If a thread is allowed, then….it’s allowed. End of. Over and over when the mods do get involved they say that married men can discuss woman/wives moderately if it relates to the thread. The word is moderately. I've been on and off this site since 2013 and over the last few years has taken a huge upturn in 'panty sniffing' talk Why don't married guys do it elsewhere? IE the site designed for that...fabswingers. Don't you realise how much posts about tits/panties/vaginas are totally anachronistic on a site for guys looking for gay sex. This is a site about men having sex with men. Nothing more, nothing less. " ....so you're not allowed to talk about gaming..? | |||
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"This site has become about 1) gay or bi men who are seeking sex with other gay or bi men AND 2) bi men who just wanna perv over female news presenter, sniffing panties and talking about their wives. 1 great welcome your in the right place. 2 take the hint and realise when time after time the same discussions come up - you're in the wrong forum! This site is about men meeting men. Bi or gay or otherwise. Not for married guys talking about their wives and complaining about Bareback Sex/Rimming/or whatever other gay kink you disapprove of. You can have an opinion on what you think should or should not be allowed as a thread and what men can or can’t talk about in a thread but you don’t get to decide. If a thread is allowed, then….it’s allowed. End of. Over and over when the mods do get involved they say that married men can discuss woman/wives moderately if it relates to the thread. The word is moderately. I've been on and off this site since 2013 and over the last few years has taken a huge upturn in 'panty sniffing' talk Why don't married guys do it elsewhere? IE the site designed for that...fabswingers. Don't you realise how much posts about tits/panties/vaginas are totally anachronistic on a site for guys looking for gay sex. This is a site about men having sex with men. Nothing more, nothing less. ....so you're not allowed to talk about gaming..?" Of course, it's a universal pastime. Nuance has obviously passed you by. Did you not see my use of the word 'moderately'? There is no reason for anyone not to discuss anything in moderation. But the majority and core of this site is about men having sex with men. The reason so many people complain so often, several times a day, is that the guys here looking for sex with other men are feeling marginalised by the panty sniffers who complain about barebackers putting them at risk. | |||
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"What a carry on. According to the home page there, as I write, 17,064 users on line looking at these pages. That’s 17,064 different routes to a single objective - orgasm. If someone chooses to look at pictures of a guy in a leather harness sitting on a toilet to help achieve that objective of orgasm, let him get on with it. If someone likes to read about sniffing a wife’s soiled knickers to help achieve the objective of orgasm, let him get on with it. If someone wants to watch a livestream of a guy sitting in his bedroom wanking to help meet the objective of orgasm, let him get on with it. Shouting abuse across the bi/gay divide is unhelpful and has nothing to do with what we’re really here for. Post script. Those of you who say there are no women on this site are denying that TV/TGs are women. The Supreme Court may agree with you but a lot of TV/TGs don’t. So let’s just live and let live and stop being so fucking judgmental." I don't think you understand the difference between transvestism and transgenderism. Neither are my bag, but I know the difference and many TVs here will also explain it to you. Transvestism is a fetish, they don't actually want to be women, nor have surgery or hormones or live as women. It's why many have beards and body hair etc. It's no different to guys that enjoy puppy play or any other roleplay involving clothing. Apart from maybe an absolute tiny minority they don't want to be seen as actual dogs. Transgenderism is a completely different concept whereby people change their gender and live as a woman (or man) opposite to their birth gender 24/7 and undergo surgery and take hormones to achieve this. You use it as a sword to bash us with, yet you never bothered to learn the difference which speaks more about your casual and lazy homophobia than anything else. | |||
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"This site has become about 1) gay or bi men who are seeking sex with other gay or bi men AND 2) bi men who just wanna perv over female news presenter, sniffing panties and talking about their wives. 1 great welcome your in the right place. 2 take the hint and realise when time after time the same discussions come up - you're in the wrong forum! This site is about men meeting men. Bi or gay or otherwise. Not for married guys talking about their wives and complaining about Bareback Sex/Rimming/or whatever other gay kink you disapprove of. You can have an opinion on what you think should or should not be allowed as a thread and what men can or can’t talk about in a thread but you don’t get to decide. If a thread is allowed, then….it’s allowed. End of. Over and over when the mods do get involved they say that married men can discuss woman/wives moderately if it relates to the thread. The word is moderately. I've been on and off this site since 2013 and over the last few years has taken a huge upturn in 'panty sniffing' talk Why don't married guys do it elsewhere? IE the site designed for that...fabswingers. Don't you realise how much posts about tits/panties/vaginas are totally anachronistic on a site for guys looking for gay sex. This is a site about men having sex with men. Nothing more, nothing less. ....so you're not allowed to talk about gaming..? Of course, it's a universal pastime. Nuance has obviously passed you by. Did you not see my use of the word 'moderately'? There is no reason for anyone not to discuss anything in moderation. But the majority and core of this site is about men having sex with men. The reason so many people complain so often, several times a day, is that the guys here looking for sex with other men are feeling marginalised by the panty sniffers who complain about barebackers putting them at risk." I've noticed this too. It's funny that they complain so much about BB when they simultaneously don't get tested due to fear of being outed and fail to understand that virtually every STI except HIV (for which PrEp exists to prevent) can be passed on by oral too. I highly doubt they are using condoms for oral given all the talk about swallowing cum and being sucked off by men who swallow their cum etc. Furthermore for things like crabs and scabies there are no preventative measures (although easily treated with lotion from chemist). I BB and use condoms depending on the situation. Condoms aren't 100% safe because they break or come off during sex without noticing; has happened to me on several occasions. This is why I take PrEP and test monthly unless I'm taking a celibacy break or am in a monogamous relationship whether I'm using condoms or not. Rather than imply gay men are awful and disease ridden whilst they hypocritically engage in gay sex and refuse to get regularly tested, and having extreme anxiety over giving their wife something, maybe they should consider being honest with their wives or divorcing? Only real way to be totally safe from the chance of passing something on. | |||
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"Maybe if fabguys was used for gay men and bi men for cock activities meets horny chats stories or whatever etc and fabswingers for activities with women it might stop the bickering. If you like women you like women and that is fine why settle for second best? I love meeting bi men probably more so than gay men if honest. None of them ever ever mention female fun its all about cock and cum with men. It's doubtful you'll find a women on fabguys. Bi fun with men on fabguys bi fun with women on swingers quite easy really. It's not really about treating women disrespectfully i just think it is better discussed where the women are. A similar point to that which I and others have made on a number of occasions- the entitled response is usually something along the lines of “I’ll talk about whatever I want”. After all this is a Man on Man hook up site, certain bi’s sexualised postings have no place here other than to try and exclude or drive out those who have no interest in women’s reproductive organs. Those sort of discussions should be on the swingers site, or perhaps they are just too scared to post them where women may actually see them....but we are entitled to talk about whatever we want....within the rules of course...just as you are... being offended on someone else's behalf.. isn't a good look. Relax, and enjoy the site..." And there we have the entitled “I’ll talk about whatever I want” attitude of those incapable of distinguishing between what is and isn’t appropriate just because there are not automatic filters to prevent them. | |||
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"This site has become about 1) gay or bi men who are seeking sex with other gay or bi men AND 2) bi men who just wanna perv over female news presenter, sniffing panties and talking about their wives. 1 great welcome your in the right place. 2 take the hint and realise when time after time the same discussions come up - you're in the wrong forum! This site is about men meeting men. Bi or gay or otherwise. Not for married guys talking about their wives and complaining about Bareback Sex/Rimming/or whatever other gay kink you disapprove of. You can have an opinion on what you think should or should not be allowed as a thread and what men can or can’t talk about in a thread but you don’t get to decide. If a thread is allowed, then….it’s allowed. End of. Over and over when the mods do get involved they say that married men can discuss woman/wives moderately if it relates to the thread. The word is moderately. I've been on and off this site since 2013 and over the last few years has taken a huge upturn in 'panty sniffing' talk Why don't married guys do it elsewhere? IE the site designed for that...fabswingers. Don't you realise how much posts about tits/panties/vaginas are totally anachronistic on a site for guys looking for gay sex. This is a site about men having sex with men. Nothing more, nothing less. ....so you're not allowed to talk about gaming..? Of course, it's a universal pastime. Nuance has obviously passed you by. Did you not see my use of the word 'moderately'? There is no reason for anyone not to discuss anything in moderation. But the majority and core of this site is about men having sex with men. The reason so many people complain so often, several times a day, is that the guys here looking for sex with other men are feeling marginalised by the panty sniffers who complain about barebackers putting them at risk." ...I refer you to the last paragraph of your post...doesn't seem very moderate to me... | |||
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"The Forum is full of men. Men only. They can answer back. If someone didn’t like their bulge perved over or felt that other men were getting leery, they can speak up for themselves. You will often find threads here where some men have stated that they do not like explicit arse pictures, or find the fixation on just cocks exhausting, or comment that they prefer interaction as their way to build sexual appreciation rather than one-dimensional perving over body parts. There are NO women here. They have no voice. They can’t answer back or defend themselves. Thus the site can’t self-regulate or self-correct over any OTT behaviour because it has NO input from the women involved. Women are the silent and passive objects of male attention. Which would nearly always be unwanted in reality. Wives would be horrified to hear of the way their husbands speak of them or pimped out their pictures or knickers to others for self-gratification. Female celebrities (including some who even in real life have had unwanted attention or stalking and needed restraining orders) perved over like meat. Perve over a man all you want here - he has a stake here, can answer back, and can make a choice. The women you discuss have no choice but involvement on your (furtive) terms. Try telling the women around you in your real life that this is all so harmless and they are silly, over-reacting bimbos who should actually appreciate your harmless perving with other men over them. In secret. On a site exclusively for men. The fact you cannot see this is exactly the misogyny. " It’s not | |||
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"Maybe if fabguys was used for gay men and bi men for cock activities meets horny chats stories or whatever etc and fabswingers for activities with women it might stop the bickering. If you like women you like women and that is fine why settle for second best? I love meeting bi men probably more so than gay men if honest. None of them ever ever mention female fun its all about cock and cum with men. It's doubtful you'll find a women on fabguys. Bi fun with men on fabguys bi fun with women on swingers quite easy really. It's not really about treating women disrespectfully i just think it is better discussed where the women are. A similar point to that which I and others have made on a number of occasions- the entitled response is usually something along the lines of “I’ll talk about whatever I want”. After all this is a Man on Man hook up site, certain bi’s sexualised postings have no place here other than to try and exclude or drive out those who have no interest in women’s reproductive organs. Those sort of discussions should be on the swingers site, or perhaps they are just too scared to post them where women may actually see them....but we are entitled to talk about whatever we want....within the rules of course...just as you are... being offended on someone else's behalf.. isn't a good look. Relax, and enjoy the site... And there we have the entitled “I’ll talk about whatever I want” attitude of those incapable of distinguishing between what is and isn’t appropriate just because there are not automatic filters to prevent them." ...so you're now going to install yourself as an added filter...?.... | |||
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"Ok so this exhausting Rather than us trying to explain why 'wife,panty,boob' talk shouldn't happen on a site for men looking for sex with men. Can someone explain why you don't keep this talk on a straight site? " ‘Shouldn’t happen’ - it’s not up to you or any other members to decide what should or should not be discussed. Some men like to discuss such topics as ‘women/boobs/panties’ on this site for gay and bisexual men and some men don’t want them to. It’s not the point that there are ‘more appropriate’ or ‘better’ sites for such discussions - the point is that such discussions ARE allowed here and it’s no members prerogative to decide what can and can’t be discussed within the rules. | |||
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"Manbags at dawn More tedious casual homophobia from another hypocritical guy seeking gay sex but still trying to act like he's one of the lads. Wonder if they'd still let you join in the homophobic banter if they knew of your exploits on this site eh?" Ahem .... I'm Very openy bisexual, relationship wise as well as purely sexual attraction..... and are seldom seen out without my trusty manbag. And since you mentioned it, have always been quite far from being 'one of the lads' If you honestly consider my previous comment to be homophobic, then your choice to take offence makes a mockery of homophobia. If you can take a cock then you should be able to take a joke sunshine. | |||
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"Maybe if fabguys was used for gay men and bi men for cock activities meets horny chats stories or whatever etc and fabswingers for activities with women it might stop the bickering. If you like women you like women and that is fine why settle for second best? I love meeting bi men probably more so than gay men if honest. None of them ever ever mention female fun its all about cock and cum with men. It's doubtful you'll find a women on fabguys. Bi fun with men on fabguys bi fun with women on swingers quite easy really. It's not really about treating women disrespectfully i just think it is better discussed where the women are. A similar point to that which I and others have made on a number of occasions- the entitled response is usually something along the lines of “I’ll talk about whatever I want”. After all this is a Man on Man hook up site, certain bi’s sexualised postings have no place here other than to try and exclude or drive out those who have no interest in women’s reproductive organs. Those sort of discussions should be on the swingers site, or perhaps they are just too scared to post them where women may actually see them....but we are entitled to talk about whatever we want....within the rules of course...just as you are... being offended on someone else's behalf.. isn't a good look. Relax, and enjoy the site... And there we have the entitled “I’ll talk about whatever I want” attitude of those incapable of distinguishing between what is and isn’t appropriate just because there are not automatic filters to prevent them....so you're now going to install yourself as an added filter...?.... "Perhaps the mods or admins do need to for those who can’t exercise better judgment for themselves. | |||
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"Ok so this exhausting Rather than us trying to explain why 'wife,panty,boob' talk shouldn't happen on a site for men looking for sex with men. Can someone explain why you don't keep this talk on a straight site? ‘Shouldn’t happen’ - it’s not up to you or any other members to decide what should or should not be discussed. Some men like to discuss such topics as ‘women/boobs/panties’ on this site for gay and bisexual men and some men don’t want them to. It’s not the point that there are ‘more appropriate’ or ‘better’ sites for such discussions - the point is that such discussions ARE allowed here and it’s no members prerogative to decide what can and can’t be discussed within the rules. " Allowed in 'moderation'. Perhaps we should all start talking about cruising on Tinder. Or talk about being pro-Palestine at our local synagogue. Or about fox-hunting on a vegan message board. Strictly speaking, allowed, but should we really? Read the room. | |||
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"Ok so this exhausting Rather than us trying to explain why 'wife,panty,boob' talk shouldn't happen on a site for men looking for sex with men. Can someone explain why you don't keep this talk on a straight site? ‘Shouldn’t happen’ - it’s not up to you or any other members to decide what should or should not be discussed. Some men like to discuss such topics as ‘women/boobs/panties’ on this site for gay and bisexual men and some men don’t want them to. It’s not the point that there are ‘more appropriate’ or ‘better’ sites for such discussions - the point is that such discussions ARE allowed here and it’s no members prerogative to decide what can and can’t be discussed within the rules. Allowed in 'moderation'. Perhaps we should all start talking about cruising on Tinder. Or talk about being pro-Palestine at our local synagogue. Or about fox-hunting on a vegan message board. Strictly speaking, allowed, but should we really? Read the room. " Yes. | |||
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"Ok so this exhausting Rather than us trying to explain why 'wife,panty,boob' talk shouldn't happen on a site for men looking for sex with men. Can someone explain why you don't keep this talk on a straight site? ‘Shouldn’t happen’ - it’s not up to you or any other members to decide what should or should not be discussed. Some men like to discuss such topics as ‘women/boobs/panties’ on this site for gay and bisexual men and some men don’t want them to. It’s not the point that there are ‘more appropriate’ or ‘better’ sites for such discussions - the point is that such discussions ARE allowed here and it’s no members prerogative to decide what can and can’t be discussed within the rules. Allowed in 'moderation'. Perhaps we should all start talking about cruising on Tinder. Or talk about being pro-Palestine at our local synagogue. Or about fox-hunting on a vegan message board. Strictly speaking, allowed, but should we really? Read the room. " ...read the room...?...how about you read what interests you....ignore/scroll past the rest. | |||
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"Maybe if fabguys was used for gay men and bi men for cock activities meets horny chats stories or whatever etc and fabswingers for activities with women it might stop the bickering. If you like women you like women and that is fine why settle for second best? I love meeting bi men probably more so than gay men if honest. None of them ever ever mention female fun its all about cock and cum with men. It's doubtful you'll find a women on fabguys. Bi fun with men on fabguys bi fun with women on swingers quite easy really. It's not really about treating women disrespectfully i just think it is better discussed where the women are. A similar point to that which I and others have made on a number of occasions- the entitled response is usually something along the lines of “I’ll talk about whatever I want”. After all this is a Man on Man hook up site, certain bi’s sexualised postings have no place here other than to try and exclude or drive out those who have no interest in women’s reproductive organs. Those sort of discussions should be on the swingers site, or perhaps they are just too scared to post them where women may actually see them....but we are entitled to talk about whatever we want....within the rules of course...just as you are... being offended on someone else's behalf.. isn't a good look. Relax, and enjoy the site... And there we have the entitled “I’ll talk about whatever I want” attitude of those incapable of distinguishing between what is and isn’t appropriate just because there are not automatic filters to prevent them....so you're now going to install yourself as an added filter...?....
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"Ok so this exhausting Rather than us trying to explain why 'wife,panty,boob' talk shouldn't happen on a site for men looking for sex with men. Can someone explain why you don't keep this talk on a straight site? ‘Shouldn’t happen’ - it’s not up to you or any other members to decide what should or should not be discussed. Some men like to discuss such topics as ‘women/boobs/panties’ on this site for gay and bisexual men and some men don’t want them to. It’s not the point that there are ‘more appropriate’ or ‘better’ sites for such discussions - the point is that such discussions ARE allowed here and it’s no members prerogative to decide what can and can’t be discussed within the rules. Allowed in 'moderation'. Perhaps we should all start talking about cruising on Tinder. Or talk about being pro-Palestine at our local synagogue. Or about fox-hunting on a vegan message board. Strictly speaking, allowed, but should we really? Read the room. ...read the room...?...how about you read what interests you....ignore/scroll past the rest. " It's not that simple though because in order to fulfil some kind of internalised homophobia anxiety nearly every thread ends up being about heterosexual sex, women or some kind of odd homophobia. It's blatant overcompensation, like trying to impress people to affirm that you 'aren't gay'. We know you are bi and nobody cares. It's utterly pointless because 'the straight lads' that you are so obviously terrified of being judged as 'gay', aren't here to impress, and being honest, we're still at a point in society where they'd judge you exactly the same as gay men if they knew you were using this site. As someone pointed out, it feels increasingly like being in a boorish golf clubhouse bar or ex-rugger bugger night out. It's just so odd on a site where zero women are present and everyone is here looking for gay sex. There are hundreds of thousands of straight focussed websites to bang on about "tits, fanny, shagging Rachel Riley, my wife's panties, what I do with women" including a literal carbon copy of this site that women are members of run by the same team (Fabswingers). It's frankly weird that you pick a site exclusively focused on male-male gay sexual relations to do so. | |||
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"Ok so this exhausting Rather than us trying to explain why 'wife,panty,boob' talk shouldn't happen on a site for men looking for sex with men. Can someone explain why you don't keep this talk on a straight site? ‘Shouldn’t happen’ - it’s not up to you or any other members to decide what should or should not be discussed. Some men like to discuss such topics as ‘women/boobs/panties’ on this site for gay and bisexual men and some men don’t want them to. It’s not the point that there are ‘more appropriate’ or ‘better’ sites for such discussions - the point is that such discussions ARE allowed here and it’s no members prerogative to decide what can and can’t be discussed within the rules. Allowed in 'moderation'. Perhaps we should all start talking about cruising on Tinder. Or talk about being pro-Palestine at our local synagogue. Or about fox-hunting on a vegan message board. Strictly speaking, allowed, but should we really? Read the room. ...read the room...?...how about you read what interests you....ignore/scroll past the rest. It's not that simple though because in order to fulfil some kind of internalised homophobia anxiety nearly every thread ends up being about heterosexual sex, women or some kind of odd homophobia. It's blatant overcompensation, like trying to impress people to affirm that you 'aren't gay'. We know you are bi and nobody cares. It's utterly pointless because 'the straight lads' that you are so obviously terrified of being judged as 'gay', aren't here to impress, and being honest, we're still at a point in society where they'd judge you exactly the same as gay men if they knew you were using this site. As someone pointed out, it feels increasingly like being in a boorish golf clubhouse bar or ex-rugger bugger night out. It's just so odd on a site where zero women are present and everyone is here looking for gay sex. There are hundreds of thousands of straight focussed websites to bang on about "tits, fanny, shagging Rachel Riley, my wife's panties, what I do with women" including a literal carbon copy of this site that women are members of run by the same team (Fabswingers). It's frankly weird that you pick a site exclusively focused on male-male gay sexual relations to do so. ...you seem obsessed with "internalised homophobia "...what in the world is that exactly?.... Talking about wifeys boobs/panties is somehow homophobic? Again...stop being offended on someone else's behalf...its not a good look. " If you're so flippant about homophobia and don't believe that it's an issue, why are you in the closet? The fact that you are is pretty much proof, because other bisexual men including on this site, including some who are married to women are 'out'. It's patently obvious that many of the bi men engaging in this boorish 'lads bants' "oooh-er luv me some tits and fanny, I'm only here cos me wife don't have sex enough, I'm not a handbag clutching queen, I don't even fancy nen" are doing so as some kind of weird overcompensation to try and make themselves feel better about being on a site exclusively focused on gay sex. If your wife wasn't having sex with you and you were in fact straight or bisexual with an overwhelming preference for women, you'd either divorce her and find another woman, hire a proz or have an affair with a woman. You certainly wouldn't be on a site that only gives you the opportunity to meet men for sex. We all know why you are here, it's the same reason as us; gay mal-male sexual encounters. We know you are bi and we don't care. Everyone else is here to have sex with men. I say internalised homophobia because that's exactly what it is. Classic overcompensation but I have absolutely no idea why; who are you trying to convince? | |||
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"Ok so this exhausting Rather than us trying to explain why 'wife,panty,boob' talk shouldn't happen on a site for men looking for sex with men. Can someone explain why you don't keep this talk on a straight site? ‘Shouldn’t happen’ - it’s not up to you or any other members to decide what should or should not be discussed. Some men like to discuss such topics as ‘women/boobs/panties’ on this site for gay and bisexual men and some men don’t want them to. It’s not the point that there are ‘more appropriate’ or ‘better’ sites for such discussions - the point is that such discussions ARE allowed here and it’s no members prerogative to decide what can and can’t be discussed within the rules. Allowed in 'moderation'. Perhaps we should all start talking about cruising on Tinder. Or talk about being pro-Palestine at our local synagogue. Or about fox-hunting on a vegan message board. Strictly speaking, allowed, but should we really? Read the room. ...read the room...?...how about you read what interests you....ignore/scroll past the rest. It's not that simple though because in order to fulfil some kind of internalised homophobia anxiety nearly every thread ends up being about heterosexual sex, women or some kind of odd homophobia. It's blatant overcompensation, like trying to impress people to affirm that you 'aren't gay'. We know you are bi and nobody cares. It's utterly pointless because 'the straight lads' that you are so obviously terrified of being judged as 'gay', aren't here to impress, and being honest, we're still at a point in society where they'd judge you exactly the same as gay men if they knew you were using this site. As someone pointed out, it feels increasingly like being in a boorish golf clubhouse bar or ex-rugger bugger night out. It's just so odd on a site where zero women are present and everyone is here looking for gay sex. There are hundreds of thousands of straight focussed websites to bang on about "tits, fanny, shagging Rachel Riley, my wife's panties, what I do with women" including a literal carbon copy of this site that women are members of run by the same team (Fabswingers). It's frankly weird that you pick a site exclusively focused on male-male gay sexual relations to do so. ...you seem obsessed with "internalised homophobia "...what in the world is that exactly?.... Talking about wifeys boobs/panties is somehow homophobic? Again...stop being offended on someone else's behalf...its not a good look. If you're so flippant about homophobia and don't believe that it's an issue, why are you in the closet? The fact that you are is pretty much proof, because other bisexual men including on this site, including some who are married to women are 'out'. It's patently obvious that many of the bi men engaging in this boorish 'lads bants' "oooh-er luv me some tits and fanny, I'm only here cos me wife don't have sex enough, I'm not a handbag clutching queen, I don't even fancy nen" are doing so as some kind of weird overcompensation to try and make themselves feel better about being on a site exclusively focused on gay sex. If your wife wasn't having sex with you and you were in fact straight or bisexual with an overwhelming preference for women, you'd either divorce her and find another woman, hire a proz or have an affair with a woman. You certainly wouldn't be on a site that only gives you the opportunity to meet men for sex. We all know why you are here, it's the same reason as us; gay mal-male sexual encounters. We know you are bi and we don't care. Everyone else is here to have sex with men. I say internalised homophobia because that's exactly what it is. Classic overcompensation but I have absolutely no idea why; who are you trying to convince?" .....you know nothing about me...do you usually make wild assumptions about complete strangers?...you're a psychotherapist as well as a policeman now?...is there no end to your talents?....hahaha | |||
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"Ok so this exhausting Rather than us trying to explain why 'wife,panty,boob' talk shouldn't happen on a site for men looking for sex with men. Can someone explain why you don't keep this talk on a straight site? ‘Shouldn’t happen’ - it’s not up to you or any other members to decide what should or should not be discussed. Some men like to discuss such topics as ‘women/boobs/panties’ on this site for gay and bisexual men and some men don’t want them to. It’s not the point that there are ‘more appropriate’ or ‘better’ sites for such discussions - the point is that such discussions ARE allowed here and it’s no members prerogative to decide what can and can’t be discussed within the rules. Allowed in 'moderation'. Perhaps we should all start talking about cruising on Tinder. Or talk about being pro-Palestine at our local synagogue. Or about fox-hunting on a vegan message board. Strictly speaking, allowed, but should we really? Read the room. ...read the room...?...how about you read what interests you....ignore/scroll past the rest. It's not that simple though because in order to fulfil some kind of internalised homophobia anxiety nearly every thread ends up being about heterosexual sex, women or some kind of odd homophobia. It's blatant overcompensation, like trying to impress people to affirm that you 'aren't gay'. We know you are bi and nobody cares. It's utterly pointless because 'the straight lads' that you are so obviously terrified of being judged as 'gay', aren't here to impress, and being honest, we're still at a point in society where they'd judge you exactly the same as gay men if they knew you were using this site. As someone pointed out, it feels increasingly like being in a boorish golf clubhouse bar or ex-rugger bugger night out. It's just so odd on a site where zero women are present and everyone is here looking for gay sex. There are hundreds of thousands of straight focussed websites to bang on about "tits, fanny, shagging Rachel Riley, my wife's panties, what I do with women" including a literal carbon copy of this site that women are members of run by the same team (Fabswingers). It's frankly weird that you pick a site exclusively focused on male-male gay sexual relations to do so. ...you seem obsessed with "internalised homophobia "...what in the world is that exactly?.... Talking about wifeys boobs/panties is somehow homophobic? Again...stop being offended on someone else's behalf...its not a good look. If you're so flippant about homophobia and don't believe that it's an issue, why are you in the closet? The fact that you are is pretty much proof, because other bisexual men including on this site, including some who are married to women are 'out'. It's patently obvious that many of the bi men engaging in this boorish 'lads bants' "oooh-er luv me some tits and fanny, I'm only here cos me wife don't have sex enough, I'm not a handbag clutching queen, I don't even fancy nen" are doing so as some kind of weird overcompensation to try and make themselves feel better about being on a site exclusively focused on gay sex. If your wife wasn't having sex with you and you were in fact straight or bisexual with an overwhelming preference for women, you'd either divorce her and find another woman, hire a proz or have an affair with a woman. You certainly wouldn't be on a site that only gives you the opportunity to meet men for sex. We all know why you are here, it's the same reason as us; gay mal-male sexual encounters. We know you are bi and we don't care. Everyone else is here to have sex with men. I say internalised homophobia because that's exactly what it is. Classic overcompensation but I have absolutely no idea why; who are you trying to convince?.....you know nothing about me...do you usually make wild assumptions about complete strangers?...you're a psychotherapist as well as a policeman now?...is there no end to your talents?....hahaha I probably do know you in real life given my family is from Monaghan. It's a tiny nowheresville place and I've encountered countless people expressing the same kind of projection including in my own family. I can guarantee you're banging on about 'poofs' down the pub at every opportunity. Seem it all before. ...you're making yourself look more stupid...one post at a time...keep it up " 🧌 | |||
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"Its a simple question - why choose a site that is geared toward men on men hook ups to talk about 'boobs, fanny's, Rachel Riley and panty sinffing'? Why here and not a straight site? Perhaps if you gave us an answer, rather than bluff, whys not and entitlements, we'd give you a all a break and shut up. " ...the answer is....go to the main forum page...press "lounge ".....and read the first 10 threads...various subjects...that's what the lounge is for...politics, football, tv shows, etc..and yes..wife's panties and boobs...personally speaking, I've never commented on any of them as it's of no interest to me...there are a few other subjects I have no interest in,so I don't comment on those either.i merely scroll on by. Hope that helps | |||
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"Ok so this exhausting Rather than us trying to explain why 'wife,panty,boob' talk shouldn't happen on a site for men looking for sex with men. Can someone explain why you don't keep this talk on a straight site? ‘Shouldn’t happen’ - it’s not up to you or any other members to decide what should or should not be discussed. Some men like to discuss such topics as ‘women/boobs/panties’ on this site for gay and bisexual men and some men don’t want them to. It’s not the point that there are ‘more appropriate’ or ‘better’ sites for such discussions - the point is that such discussions ARE allowed here and it’s no members prerogative to decide what can and can’t be discussed within the rules. Allowed in 'moderation'. Perhaps we should all start talking about cruising on Tinder. Or talk about being pro-Palestine at our local synagogue. Or about fox-hunting on a vegan message board. Strictly speaking, allowed, but should we really? Read the room. ...read the room...?...how about you read what interests you....ignore/scroll past the rest. It's not that simple though because in order to fulfil some kind of internalised homophobia anxiety nearly every thread ends up being about heterosexual sex, women or some kind of odd homophobia. It's blatant overcompensation, like trying to impress people to affirm that you 'aren't gay'. We know you are bi and nobody cares. It's utterly pointless because 'the straight lads' that you are so obviously terrified of being judged as 'gay', aren't here to impress, and being honest, we're still at a point in society where they'd judge you exactly the same as gay men if they knew you were using this site. As someone pointed out, it feels increasingly like being in a boorish golf clubhouse bar or ex-rugger bugger night out. It's just so odd on a site where zero women are present and everyone is here looking for gay sex. There are hundreds of thousands of straight focussed websites to bang on about "tits, fanny, shagging Rachel Riley, my wife's panties, what I do with women" including a literal carbon copy of this site that women are members of run by the same team (Fabswingers). It's frankly weird that you pick a site exclusively focused on male-male gay sexual relations to do so. ...you seem obsessed with "internalised homophobia "...what in the world is that exactly?.... Talking about wifeys boobs/panties is somehow homophobic? Again...stop being offended on someone else's behalf...its not a good look. If you're so flippant about homophobia and don't believe that it's an issue, why are you in the closet? The fact that you are is pretty much proof, because other bisexual men including on this site, including some who are married to women are 'out'. It's patently obvious that many of the bi men engaging in this boorish 'lads bants' "oooh-er luv me some tits and fanny, I'm only here cos me wife don't have sex enough, I'm not a handbag clutching queen, I don't even fancy nen" are doing so as some kind of weird overcompensation to try and make themselves feel better about being on a site exclusively focused on gay sex. If your wife wasn't having sex with you and you were in fact straight or bisexual with an overwhelming preference for women, you'd either divorce her and find another woman, hire a proz or have an affair with a woman. You certainly wouldn't be on a site that only gives you the opportunity to meet men for sex. We all know why you are here, it's the same reason as us; gay mal-male sexual encounters. We know you are bi and we don't care. Everyone else is here to have sex with men. I say internalised homophobia because that's exactly what it is. Classic overcompensation but I have absolutely no idea why; who are you trying to convince?.....you know nothing about me...do you usually make wild assumptions about complete strangers?...you're a psychotherapist as well as a policeman now?...is there no end to your talents?....hahaha I probably do know you in real life given my family is from Monaghan. It's a tiny nowheresville place and I've encountered countless people expressing the same kind of projection including in my own family. I can guarantee you're banging on about 'poofs' down the pub at every opportunity. Seem it all before. ...you're making yourself look more stupid...one post at a time...keep it up I'm absolutely not making it up, my dad is from Monaghan as are a neverending list of cousins and uncles, aunts etc. I know it well, it may be an Irish 'town' but by UK standards it's a mid-sized village. Not a big place at all. I've been there countless times. " ...monaghan is a county...there are many towns within the county...but you probably knew that already, seeing as you're from there....hahaha | |||
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"I'm familiar with how Ireland works county-wise given I hold an Irish passport and have most of my Irish family in Monaghan and a load more in Cavan. I'm also familiar with how tiny Monaghan is population wise both in terms of Monaghan county. It's an absolute nowhere place even by Irish standards, or even Scottish standards (where the other side of my family is from), or similarly rural Cornwall where I grew up. Even Cavan is practically buzzing and metropolitan in comparison to Monaghan. There's every chance I probably do know you through someone or even that we are related to some degree. "Also the other 'towns' in Monaghan would be considered small villages in the rest of Europe. ~2000 people is the kind of place that you know virtually everyone. I know because I grew up in the same sized sort of place in Cornwall. | |||
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"I'm familiar with how Ireland works county-wise given I hold an Irish passport and have most of my Irish family in Monaghan and a load more in Cavan. I'm also familiar with how tiny Monaghan is population wise both in terms of Monaghan county. It's an absolute nowhere place even by Irish standards, or even Scottish standards (where the other side of my family is from), or similarly rural Cornwall where I grew up. Even Cavan is practically buzzing and metropolitan in comparison to Monaghan. There's every chance I probably do know you through someone or even that we are related to some degree. "....so you know everyone in county monaghan?...and being Irish...we're all related..hahaha...sounds like you're very familiar with St davnets...hahaha | |||
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"monaghan is a county...there are many towns within the county...but you probably knew that already, seeing as you're from there....hahaha Including guess what, the county town of Monaghan. Probably better off getting your facts straight before "correcting" others on things they know more about that you. " ...don't worry boss...I have my facts straight...are you familiar with Co Monaghan and it's towns and villages?... | |||
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"I'm familiar with how Ireland works county-wise given I hold an Irish passport and have most of my Irish family in Monaghan and a load more in Cavan. I'm also familiar with how tiny Monaghan is population wise both in terms of Monaghan county. It's an absolute nowhere place even by Irish standards, or even Scottish standards (where the other side of my family is from), or similarly rural Cornwall where I grew up. Even Cavan is practically buzzing and metropolitan in comparison to Monaghan. There's every chance I probably do know you through someone or even that we are related to some degree. ....so you know everyone in county monaghan?...and being Irish...we're all related..hahaha...sounds like you're very familiar with St davnets...hahaha "No, being from a tiny part of rural Ireland that most people left until the 1990s does. We're not talking about Dublin, Cork, or even Shannon, or Limerick or whatever. There's no great population influx into Monaghan (at least not until recently). It's just a fact, I'm grateful my dad decided to widen the gene pool a little. I'm not being uniquely harsh on Ireland because it's the same situation in parts of England like Norfolk or Cornwall or parts of Scotland and Wales. | |||
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"I'm familiar with how Ireland works county-wise given I hold an Irish passport and have most of my Irish family in Monaghan and a load more in Cavan. I'm also familiar with how tiny Monaghan is population wise both in terms of Monaghan county. It's an absolute nowhere place even by Irish standards, or even Scottish standards (where the other side of my family is from), or similarly rural Cornwall where I grew up. Even Cavan is practically buzzing and metropolitan in comparison to Monaghan. There's every chance I probably do know you through someone or even that we are related to some degree. ....so you know everyone in county monaghan?...and being Irish...we're all related..hahaha...sounds like you're very familiar with St davnets...hahaha
No, being from a tiny part of rural Ireland that most people left until the 1990s does. We're not talking about Dublin, Cork, or even Shannon, or Limerick or whatever. There's no great population influx into Monaghan (at least not until recently). It's just a fact, I'm grateful my dad decided to widen the gene pool a little.
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"monaghan is a county...there are many towns within the county...but you probably knew that already, seeing as you're from there....hahaha Including guess what, the county town of Monaghan. Probably better off getting your facts straight before "correcting" others on things they know more about that you. ...don't worry boss...I have my facts straight...are you familiar with Co Monaghan and it's towns and villages?..." Fair enough, I checked where you're from after posting 
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"If as a mentally and emotionally balanced and secure man, I put a post in here regarding the pleasure I get from seeing boobs or camel toes. Why does that make me a mysogynyst I have no dislike of women in race , colour,religion, body type , I have no problem with their successes and gain no pleasure from their losses I was brought up with good manners and still stand up in public transport for a woman and open doors. However being sexually attracted to women I cannot help but notice these things, yes I get enjoyment from those cheeky glimpses. I’m not undermining women or disrespecting them So why am I a misogynist What about the guys on forum who post about cock bulges, tradesman’s bodies etc Am I expected to believe that a gay man doesn’t notice or looks away from other guys in gym showers? I really don’t see the harm. Oh and this is a forum…it invites discussion…not censorship because an individual disagrees with another’s comments " I think there is a balance to be struck, enjoying and finding people attractive and arousing is human and normal. There are some posts on here which are pretty grotty and you would need an electron microscope to find any modicum of respect towards their intended target. Those threads I think, when women are the subject, can be regarded as misogynistic. Very often though men are discussed in equally unsavoury (by my standards) ways and they are as misandrist as the threads about women are misogynistic. The fact is though they are legal and within the rules of the forum, so I don’t like them and I go to threads that I do like. It takes all sorts to make a world and it’s an absolute fallacy to think we can convince everyone to see things as we do. Although we all have our red lines, and well we should. Debate is healthy if we can do it. | |||
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"I discuss topics of my choosing on this platform. If you are not interested then feel free to move on . This site doesn’t belong to gay guys . Is it truly that difficult to comprehend????" FFS. It's literally a chats and hookup site FOR gay guys. Which fucking part of that is so hard to comprehend? | |||
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"I discuss topics of my choosing on this platform. If you are not interested then feel free to move on . This site doesn’t belong to gay guys . Is it truly that difficult to comprehend???? FFS. It's literally a chats and hookup site FOR gay guys. Which fucking part of that is so hard to comprehend?" This site is also for bisexual men, not just gay men. | |||
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"I discuss topics of my choosing on this platform. If you are not interested then feel free to move on . This site doesn’t belong to gay guys . Is it truly that difficult to comprehend???? FFS. It's literally a chats and hookup site FOR gay guys. Which fucking part of that is so hard to comprehend? This site is also for bisexual men, not just gay men. " Thanks for that. As one, I get that. But I'm here for the cock, not the pussy or pussy talk. | |||
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"I discuss topics of my choosing on this platform. If you are not interested then feel free to move on . This site doesn’t belong to gay guys . Is it truly that difficult to comprehend???? FFS. It's literally a chats and hookup site FOR gay guys. Which fucking part of that is so hard to comprehend? This site is also for bisexual men, not just gay men. Thanks for that. As one, I get that. But I'm here for the cock, not the pussy or pussy talk. " Fair enough. | |||
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"I discuss topics of my choosing on this platform. If you are not interested then feel free to move on . This site doesn’t belong to gay guys . Is it truly that difficult to comprehend???? FFS. It's literally a chats and hookup site FOR gay guys. Which fucking part of that is so hard to comprehend?" The hard bit to comprehend is where you added the word Gay, when that isn’t part of it. It’s just for guys. Some are gay. Some aren’t. | |||
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"Some of these guys are gay, some are bi and some others are both or neither, or something like that." Sounds about reasonable. | |||
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"I discuss topics of my choosing on this platform. If you are not interested then feel free to move on . This site doesn’t belong to gay guys . Is it truly that difficult to comprehend???? FFS. It's literally a chats and hookup site FOR gay guys. Which fucking part of that is so hard to comprehend? The hard bit to comprehend is where you added the word Gay, when that isn’t part of it. It’s just for guys. Some are gay. Some aren’t." Pedantry - It's a site for MEN looking for gay sex. Bi or Gay. We all know it. Pretend all you like talk about boobs, panties and Rachel Riley all you want but we all know you want to get your dick sucked/your arse fucked or something combination. If your on here you like gay sex - stop trying to cover that up with panty talk. This isn't the sixth form. | |||
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"I discuss topics of my choosing on this platform. If you are not interested then feel free to move on . This site doesn’t belong to gay guys . Is it truly that difficult to comprehend???? FFS. It's literally a chats and hookup site FOR gay guys. Which fucking part of that is so hard to comprehend? The hard bit to comprehend is where you added the word Gay, when that isn’t part of it. It’s just for guys. Some are gay. Some aren’t. Pedantry - It's a site for MEN looking for gay sex. Bi or Gay. We all know it. Pretend all you like talk about boobs, panties and Rachel Riley all you want but we all know you want to get your dick sucked/your arse fucked or something combination. If your on here you like gay sex - stop trying to cover that up with panty talk. This isn't the sixth form. " Yes, we do, we enjoy both, why is that so difficult for you to come to terms with? It doesn’t affect you slightly but you seem very keen to try to make a point. | |||
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"Its all a bit weird really. Is it only bi guys who like tvs ? Straight guys who want a bit of cock, or who cant handle the baggage that comes with a relationship with a femake ? Are the majority of tvs guys who feel less than 100% male, and want to experience a bit of cock ? Do genuinely gay guys like tvs or do they just put up with it to get some sex. Then what about top tvs ? A rare bird to be sure, but if theyre well hung and top why the dressing ? Why the dressing fetish anyway ? When does it atart, why ? I dont know of women turned on by wearing y-fronts, work boots and a high viz. The power of uniforms, clothing and sexual roles on the himan psyche. Its interesting isn't it " My personal take on it is that for me, lingerie is a powerful and deeply embedded fetish. I like buying it, wearing it, seeing myself in it and having sex in it (with either sex but especially men as it's more of an erotic stimulus for them). I know "pure" gay men generally don't like it and see it as a man feminising and emasculating himself, not their bag and that's fine. I don't feel or want to feel feminine when wearing, which probably sets me apart from the majority of TVs. I see it almost as a psychic turbocharger for my own masculinity; it turns me on and makes me erect and want hard, cock-driven male sex and cum. I want to be desired by a man who appreciates that I feel sexy and want to fuck and be fucked (in most of my infrequent meets this has worked very well as a dynamic). I have zero interest in tranny-chasers who just want a surrogate woman experience with extras. I can't act that part or pass as female and don't even like feminine endearments (I've turned down meets with otherwise very attractive guys when they start with all the "baby" and "hunny" bollocks when chatting). | |||
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"There's a small cohort of bi guys on here who post mysogynistic crap, they are usually the same cohort of guys who then get content removed (stepdaughters , stealing panties, sisters in law) - unfortunately there is no trace of that stuff but it does stick on the mind that they're just wronguns " Idiots. I guess some just can't square away the concepts of finding women sexually attractive but also respecting them. | |||
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"There's a small cohort of bi guys on here who post mysogynistic crap, they are usually the same cohort of guys who then get content removed (stepdaughters , stealing panties, sisters in law) - unfortunately there is no trace of that stuff but it does stick on the mind that they're just wronguns Idiots. I guess some just can't square away the concepts of finding women sexually attractive but also respecting them. " Absolutely, the cowards have to come to a men only space because if there were any women on here, especially mods they would literally have no balls by now | |||
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"The Forum is full of men. Men only. They can answer back. If someone didn’t like their bulge perved over or felt that other men were getting leery, they can speak up for themselves. You will often find threads here where some men have stated that they do not like explicit arse pictures, or find the fixation on just cocks exhausting, or comment that they prefer interaction as their way to build sexual appreciation rather than one-dimensional perving over body parts. There are NO women here. They have no voice. They can’t answer back or defend themselves. Thus the site can’t self-regulate or self-correct over any OTT behaviour because it has NO input from the women involved. Women are the silent and passive objects of male attention. Which would nearly always be unwanted in reality. Wives would be horrified to hear of the way their husbands speak of them or pimped out their pictures or knickers to others for self-gratification. Female celebrities (including some who even in real life have had unwanted attention or stalking and needed restraining orders) perved over like meat. Perve over a man all you want here - he has a stake here, can answer back, and can make a choice. The women you discuss have no choice but involvement on your (furtive) terms. Try telling the women around you in your real life that this is all so harmless and they are silly, over-reacting bimbos who should actually appreciate your harmless perving with other men over them. In secret. On a site exclusively for men. The fact you cannot see this is exactly the misogyny. It’s not " OH YES IT IS! Stop trying to defend the indefencible and move on. Men come here for men, not to hear about your lust filled rambling on a subject that doesn't hold any interest for them | |||
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"There's a small cohort of bi guys on here who post mysogynistic crap, they are usually the same cohort of guys who then get content removed (stepdaughters , stealing panties, sisters in law) - unfortunately there is no trace of that stuff but it does stick on the mind that they're just wronguns Idiots. I guess some just can't square away the concepts of finding women sexually attractive but also respecting them. " Absolutely agree, grotty threads by grotty little people. There are many similarly grotty threads about sexual proclivities towards males as well and they are equally nauseating. They do seem to get less censure though. | |||
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"Maybe a new approach is needed - perhaps we (the non-panty sniffing collective) should flood the Rachel Riley posts with talk of Tomasz Schafernaker, the panty sniffing posts with stories of our used jocks, when talk turns to boob's subvert the chat to Jason Momoas pecs..." ...you can actually get a timeout for hijacking threads...you should really read the rules... | |||
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"Maybe a new approach is needed - perhaps we (the non-panty sniffing collective) should flood the Rachel Riley posts with talk of Tomasz Schafernaker, the panty sniffing posts with stories of our used jocks, when talk turns to boob's subvert the chat to Jason Momoas pecs..." Better still start more threads about sexy guys, sniffing jocks and admiring pecs and keep contributing to them. I haven't got a clue who half the women who get mentioned in threads are. I mean who the hell is Rachel Riley? An MP? Quiz show host? Washerwoman? | |||
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"There's a small cohort of bi guys on here who post mysogynistic crap, they are usually the same cohort of guys who then get content removed (stepdaughters , stealing panties, sisters in law) - unfortunately there is no trace of that stuff but it does stick on the mind that they're just wronguns Idiots. I guess some just can't square away the concepts of finding women sexually attractive but also respecting them. Absolutely agree, grotty threads by grotty little people. There are many similarly grotty threads about sexual proclivities towards males as well and they are equally nauseating. They do seem to get less censure though. " I would actually say there are far less posts like that, you don't see many talking about stepsons, stealing the guy next doors boxers or Keir Starmer is so vile I'd like to fuck his hole until it bleeds posts | |||
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"The Forum is full of men. Men only. They can answer back. If someone didn’t like their bulge perved over or felt that other men were getting leery, they can speak up for themselves. You will often find threads here where some men have stated that they do not like explicit arse pictures, or find the fixation on just cocks exhausting, or comment that they prefer interaction as their way to build sexual appreciation rather than one-dimensional perving over body parts. There are NO women here. They have no voice. They can’t answer back or defend themselves. Thus the site can’t self-regulate or self-correct over any OTT behaviour because it has NO input from the women involved. Women are the silent and passive objects of male attention. Which would nearly always be unwanted in reality. Wives would be horrified to hear of the way their husbands speak of them or pimped out their pictures or knickers to others for self-gratification. Female celebrities (including some who even in real life have had unwanted attention or stalking and needed restraining orders) perved over like meat. Perve over a man all you want here - he has a stake here, can answer back, and can make a choice. The women you discuss have no choice but involvement on your (furtive) terms. Try telling the women around you in your real life that this is all so harmless and they are silly, over-reacting bimbos who should actually appreciate your harmless perving with other men over them. In secret. On a site exclusively for men. The fact you cannot see this is exactly the misogyny. It’s not OH YES IT IS! Stop trying to defend the indefencible and move on. Men come here for men, not to hear about your lust filled rambling on a subject that doesn't hold any interest for them" ...personally speaking, they don’t interest me in the slightest... but they do seem to get a lot of comments..so it seems you're describing a "you" problem... | |||
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"Think she’s the portly Dingle woman in Emmerdale?" Think that is Lisa Riley. The one that looks like a drag queen. | |||
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"Quite a few are getting their panties in a twist on this thread.. Mmmmm paaantieeeees" How dare you say that word, you cannot say p*nties on here | |||
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"There's a small cohort of bi guys on here who post mysogynistic crap, they are usually the same cohort of guys who then get content removed (stepdaughters , stealing panties, sisters in law) - unfortunately there is no trace of that stuff but it does stick on the mind that they're just wronguns Idiots. I guess some just can't square away the concepts of finding women sexually attractive but also respecting them. Absolutely agree, grotty threads by grotty little people. There are many similarly grotty threads about sexual proclivities towards males as well and they are equally nauseating. They do seem to get less censure though. I would actually say there are far less posts like that, you don't see many talking about stepsons, stealing the guy next doors boxers or Keir Starmer is so vile I'd like to fuck his hole until it bleeds posts It’s a fair point, there is a grotty prevalence of fantasists saying needlessly aggressively sexual things about women when you know fine in real life they would last about 45 seconds, shoot their load and then fall asleep. That is the thing to remember, it’s just little boys in adult bodies trying out words and phrases in a remote location because they know they aren’t able to ever dream of doing that in real life. Grotty, and to be honest, more pathetic and sad than any genuinely threatening standpoint. Little manboys experimenting. " Very true, but it's whether you want to be a bystander or whether you sometimes feel the need to call it out. | |||
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"There's a small cohort of bi guys on here who post mysogynistic crap, they are usually the same cohort of guys who then get content removed (stepdaughters , stealing panties, sisters in law) - unfortunately there is no trace of that stuff but it does stick on the mind that they're just wronguns Idiots. I guess some just can't square away the concepts of finding women sexually attractive but also respecting them. Absolutely agree, grotty threads by grotty little people. There are many similarly grotty threads about sexual proclivities towards males as well and they are equally nauseating. They do seem to get less censure though. I would actually say there are far less posts like that, you don't see many talking about stepsons, stealing the guy next doors boxers or Keir Starmer is so vile I'd like to fuck his hole until it bleeds posts It’s a fair point, there is a grotty prevalence of fantasists saying needlessly aggressively sexual things about women when you know fine in real life they would last about 45 seconds, shoot their load and then fall asleep. That is the thing to remember, it’s just little boys in adult bodies trying out words and phrases in a remote location because they know they aren’t able to ever dream of doing that in real life. Grotty, and to be honest, more pathetic and sad than any genuinely threatening standpoint. Little manboys experimenting. Very true, but it's whether you want to be a bystander or whether you sometimes feel the need to call it out. " I think the counter argument comes when those calling it out are only calling out the other side and not their own. You are right it is less likely to be about guys, but there are still plenty threads. I think “calling out” is often used as an excuse for tribalism in these contexts, even though there is some virtue in it, the one sidedness is glaring and obvious. We are quick to call out the other team, all of us are, but we are less quick to call out our own team. We aren’t calling anything out. We are trying to stop the other team doing what we are happy to turn a blind eye to our team doing. | |||
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"There's a small cohort of bi guys on here who post mysogynistic crap, they are usually the same cohort of guys who then get content removed (stepdaughters , stealing panties, sisters in law) - unfortunately there is no trace of that stuff but it does stick on the mind that they're just wronguns Idiots. I guess some just can't square away the concepts of finding women sexually attractive but also respecting them. Absolutely agree, grotty threads by grotty little people. There are many similarly grotty threads about sexual proclivities towards males as well and they are equally nauseating. They do seem to get less censure though. I would actually say there are far less posts like that, you don't see many talking about stepsons, stealing the guy next doors boxers or Keir Starmer is so vile I'd like to fuck his hole until it bleeds posts It’s a fair point, there is a grotty prevalence of fantasists saying needlessly aggressively sexual things about women when you know fine in real life they would last about 45 seconds, shoot their load and then fall asleep. That is the thing to remember, it’s just little boys in adult bodies trying out words and phrases in a remote location because they know they aren’t able to ever dream of doing that in real life. Grotty, and to be honest, more pathetic and sad than any genuinely threatening standpoint. Little manboys experimenting. Very true, but it's whether you want to be a bystander or whether you sometimes feel the need to call it out. I think the counter argument comes when those calling it out are only calling out the other side and not their own. You are right it is less likely to be about guys, but there are still plenty threads. I think “calling out” is often used as an excuse for tribalism in these contexts, even though there is some virtue in it, the one sidedness is glaring and obvious. We are quick to call out the other team, all of us are, but we are less quick to call out our own team. We aren’t calling anything out. We are trying to stop the other team doing what we are happy to turn a blind eye to our team doing. " I see plenty calling out people on non bisexual stuff, racism being the one that springs to mind - undoubtedly done by people who are not racist and arguably "the other team" or just decent people who feel the need to call something out that they don't agree with. I know the forum rules say if you don't like something just pass it by, but then the place would just be an echochamber. Saying that it's not as if anyone will ever change their minds or viewpoint, so it probably all is a waste of time... | |||
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