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Is a trans person pre-op if they have no intention of opping?

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By *eorge Looney OP   Man
2 weeks ago

Wokingham

I’m thinking about someone who was born male but decides to identify and live as a woman, takes hormones and grows themselves lovely perky pair of boobs, wears women’s clothes and hairstyles etc, but wants to keep their sexy todger.

If not pre-op, what’s the correct/acceptable term?

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By *erry21TV/TS
2 weeks ago

South Manchester


"I’m thinking about someone who was born male but decides to identify and live as a woman, takes hormones and grows themselves lovely perky pair of boobs, wears women’s clothes and hairstyles etc, but wants to keep their sexy todger.

If not pre-op, what’s the correct/acceptable term?"

Who cares lol

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By *tokerY2OMan
2 weeks ago

Bournemouth

Pre-op is pretty much a outdated terms these days, as having bottom surgery is no longer considered the goal for many trans people.

Not speaking for trans people but this is my understanding.

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By *ildwestheroMan
2 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells

Suppose they cannot be pre-op if they have no intention of having the op. At least they have made the effort if they have made the effort of having hormone therapy a either grown breast or had implants. Bit of a limbo situation really though but better than being a man who just puts a frock on and pretends to be a woman.

Getting your 'plumbing' rearranged is a massive step. Very expensive and intricate although it has been perfected over the years. I have known two transwomen in the past and both had had full surgery. I knew on transman but doubt he had had full surgery although he had had his breasts removed.

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By *eorge Looney OP   Man
2 weeks ago

Wokingham


"I’m thinking about someone who was born male but decides to identify and live as a woman, takes hormones and grows themselves lovely perky pair of boobs, wears women’s clothes and hairstyles etc, but wants to keep their sexy todger.

If not pre-op, what’s the correct/acceptable term?

Who cares lol "

Well, clearly I do or I wouldn’t be asking on a forum for what other people know about the subject. Still, thanks so much for carving out some of your valuable time to contribute. We’re all very grateful.

‘LOL’

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By *eorge Looney OP   Man
2 weeks ago

Wokingham


"Suppose they cannot be pre-op if they have no intention of having the op. At least they have made the effort if they have made the effort of having hormone therapy a either grown breast or had implants. Bit of a limbo situation really though but better than being a man who just puts a frock on and pretends to be a woman.

Getting your 'plumbing' rearranged is a massive step. Very expensive and intricate although it has been perfected over the years. I have known two transwomen in the past and both had had full surgery. I knew on transman but doubt he had had full surgery although he had had his breasts removed."

I have no issue with cross dressers. If a bloke wants to put on a dress (reminds me of an Eddie Izzard line), more power to him. I’m just curious about terminology (and getting it right so I don’t offend someone).

For what it’s worth, I’d far rather have a lovely cock to play with than a fake fanny.

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By *ussextgirlukTV/TS
2 weeks ago

chichester

Not all trans can get the op

- medical issues

- age related issues vs time left

- the high complication issues prevalent deters

- cost prohibitive if private for most

- long long long waiting times

- not genital dysphoric

- quality of life ? Face feminisation is way more important as the world interacts with your face / head not a cunt or cock

- just enjoy their cock

Multiple reasons really

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By *dstefiMan
2 weeks ago

Solihull


"Who cares lol

Well, clearly I do or I wouldn’t be asking on a forum for what other people know about the subject. Still, thanks so much for carving out some of your valuable time to contribute. We’re all very grateful.

‘LOL’"

Too much dismissive shit posting here sometimes.

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By *nn FoxTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Melrose

I think you can be pre op with no intention of opping

To me it denotes a mainly TS person, retaining their birth gender.

Me : just girly with no need to transition

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By *awihMan
2 weeks ago

Aldershot


"Not all trans can get the op

- medical issues

- age related issues vs time left

- the high complication issues prevalent deters

- cost prohibitive if private for most

- long long long waiting times

- not genital dysphoric

- quality of life ? Face feminisation is way more important as the world interacts with your face / head not a cunt or cock

- just enjoy their cock

Multiple reasons really "

And this is where life complications start to creep in.

If you still have a cock, should you be allowed into women’s only spaces - this is a particular issue if you have to go to prison for example or a refuge. Where should you be put?

In the case of prison there was the recent Scottish case where they were put in a women’s prison (but already had a record for sexual crimes) which lead to a court case over who is classed as women, and the judgment lead to a loss of recognition for Trans people as I understand it.

Should those not wanting to go on a waiting list for surgery still be classed as Trans as the goal of Trans should be for full transitioning to their target sex. So many issues that need to be cleared up for clearly understood rights (and responsibilities) to be clearly defined for society.

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By *3versMan
2 weeks ago

glasgow


"I’m thinking about someone who was born male but decides to identify and live as a woman, takes hormones and grows themselves lovely perky pair of boobs, wears women’s clothes and hairstyles etc, but wants to keep their sexy todger.

If not pre-op, what’s the correct/acceptable term?"

I reckon it just means that you've still got a cock and nothing more - maybe it should be like when you describe an unneutered dog and call them intact

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By *eorge Looney OP   Man
2 weeks ago

Wokingham

Crikey. I only wanted to understand the correct term. In three posts time we’ll be in a full blown argument about trans rights and what constitutes a winkie.

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By *eorge Looney OP   Man
2 weeks ago

Wokingham


"I’m thinking about someone who was born male but decides to identify and live as a woman, takes hormones and grows themselves lovely perky pair of boobs, wears women’s clothes and hairstyles etc, but wants to keep their sexy todger.

If not pre-op, what’s the correct/acceptable term?

I reckon it just means that you've still got a cock and nothing more - maybe it should be like when you describe an unneutered dog and call them intact"

Stand by for someone to assume you’re calling all trans people intact dogs 😆😆

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By *eefandfurMan
2 weeks ago

Edinburgh

My understanding is that a trans person is someone that struggles with severe gender dysphoria. Some of whom will go on to embark on medical and/or surgical treatments in the hope of achieving an appearance that more closely aligns with their perceived sense of their gender.

Given that both the medical and surgical interventions come with significant risks ,and high failure rate, some will attempt to come to terms with living with only partial transition.

It is different to cross-dressing, as a fetish, and different to autogynephilia which is also a sexual fetish where one gets an erotic thrill by imagining taking on the physical attributes of the opposite sex.

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By *ussextgirlukTV/TS
2 weeks ago

chichester


"I’m thinking about someone who was born male but decides to identify and live as a woman, takes hormones and grows themselves lovely perky pair of boobs, wears women’s clothes and hairstyles etc, but wants to keep their sexy todger.

If not pre-op, what’s the correct/acceptable term?

I reckon it just means that you've still got a cock and nothing more - maybe it should be like when you describe an unneutered dog and call them intact"

I just use term ladyboy mostly on myself or trans. In Thailand ladyboys have a reasonable balance that is improving in society. In someways irs much better there now than in our shithole of country currently for people living .

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By *ildwestheroMan
2 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells


"Suppose they cannot be pre-op if they have no intention of having the op. At least they have made the effort if they have made the effort of having hormone therapy a either grown breast or had implants. Bit of a limbo situation really though but better than being a man who just puts a frock on and pretends to be a woman.

Getting your 'plumbing' rearranged is a massive step. Very expensive and intricate although it has been perfected over the years. I have known two transwomen in the past and both had had full surgery. I knew on transman but doubt he had had full surgery although he had had his breasts removed.

I have no issue with cross dressers. If a bloke wants to put on a dress (reminds me of an Eddie Izzard line), more power to him. I’m just curious about terminology (and getting it right so I don’t offend someone).

For what it’s worth, I’d far rather have a lovely cock to play with than a fake fanny."

I don't have an issue with men dressing as women if that makes them happy even though I find it a massive turn-off. But if they just dress in women's clothing and don't have any surgery or hormone therapy, they are just transvestites or drag queens.

Back to your original question I really don't know what you would call them. Non-op perhaps.

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By (user no longer on site)
2 weeks ago

The term is gender dysphoria ( excuse spelling) if a man woman or a child think that they are in the wrong body. Then there is a lengthy process to go through which includes the involvement of clinical physiologist, support workers. Hormones an op should the person so wish. Suggesting that a pre op is out dated as is post op, it is safe to say that both terms are in medical circles still used.

As is gender reassignment surgery.

Include myself in this next bit, I think that there is no one on this site that can correctly identify what the following terms mean. HPW , CD,TV,TS tgirl shemale ( widely used in the adult industry) transperson either post or pre op. Which as we all know means before or after any type of operation. Or indeed any event. To try and answer the op post. If a person is undertaking gender reassignment the correct way and is at the stage of waiting for surgery the he she they or however that person identifies then it's pre op.

It's a mine field of an area and none of us including my self have a clear answer. I identify as a paperclip as I pretty good at hold things to gether. If you are into trannys then does it really matter.

To the op

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By *owzerMan
2 weeks ago

Chester.....


"I’m thinking about someone who was born male but decides to identify and live as a woman, takes hormones and grows themselves lovely perky pair of boobs, wears women’s clothes and hairstyles etc, but wants to keep their sexy todger.

If not pre-op, what’s the correct/acceptable term?"

Chick with a dick!

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By *hillWithBenefitsMan
2 weeks ago

withywood

probably a risky thing to say. But most people say they're one thing for attention. At the moment, the trans fixation is the main attraction for most people. You're not trans. You're just a person who likes to dress up as the opposite sex. And if you go for the operation, you're just an Individual who has an orchiectomy (removal of testicles) or salpingo-oophorectomy (removal of ovaries and fallopian tubes). And you've had cosmetic surgery down there to make you look like the opposite sex. In a logical sense, you have been sterilised.

The trans ideology is just a mental illness. And every time a person celebrates this procedure, you're reinforcing a mental illness, making it seem normal.

Gender-affirming surgery (GAS) is human Experimentation legalised.

Just to finish this little post off, if you want to go through the procedure, go for it. We have the freedom of choice. Or do we?

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By (user no longer on site)
2 weeks ago


"The term is gender dysphoria ( excuse spelling) if a man woman or a child think that they are in the wrong body. Then there is a lengthy process to go through which includes the involvement of clinical physiologist, support workers. Hormones an op should the person so wish. Suggesting that a pre op is out dated as is post op, it is safe to say that both terms are in medical circles still used.

As is gender reassignment surgery.

Include myself in this next bit, I think that there is no one on this site that can correctly identify what the following terms mean. HPW , CD,TV,TS tgirl shemale ( widely used in the adult industry) transperson either post or pre op. Which as we all know means before or after any type of operation. Or indeed any event. To try and answer the op post. If a person is undertaking gender reassignment the correct way and is at the stage of waiting for surgery the he she they or however that person identifies then it's pre op.

It's a mine field of an area and none of us including my self have a clear answer. I identify as a paperclip as I pretty good at hold things to gether. If you are into trannys then does it really matter.

To the op

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I forgot to add, trans in it self means to cross over eg, transatlantic , transpacific..

The use of the English language often gets used in the wrong way.

I wonder what is meant by the term a Cis person?I can understand why some people get upset about being wrongly labelled. I for one do not like the words poof or shirt lifter. Even in dirty talk they do nothing for me and as a wheelchair user due to a spinal cord injury I detest as being referred to as disabled person. I am just unable to do certain things like walk, anyway another subject for another day.

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