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Have anyone tried Lenacapavir, the pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP) which prevents HIV.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
2 weeks ago

Euronews Text today reported that The European Commission has formally approved a twice-yearly injection to prevent HIV, clearing the way for the jab to be rolled out across the European Union, according to drugmaker Gilead.

The drug, called lenacapavir, is a form of pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP), which works by preventing the virus from replicating and spreading within the body. It reduces the risk of acquiring HIV among both adults and adolescents.

In clinical studies, the jab was 100 per cent effective at preventing the virus, prompting experts to call it one of the biggest medical breakthroughs of 2024.

Have anyone tried Lenacapavir, the new pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP) which prevents HIV ? Is it good? Any side-effects?

🔗Read in full: https://l.euronews.com/PhzH

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By *3versMan
2 weeks ago

glasgow

Not available on the NHS yet, so unlikely that anyone will be on it

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By *hubsloverMan
2 weeks ago

East/west sussex

This is fantastic news. Hats off to all the courageous individuals who have dedicated decades of their lives to bring us to this moment. I hope it receives approval in the UK soon so that we can all have access to it here as well.

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By *iassloverMan
2 weeks ago

Rugby

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By *iassloverMan
2 weeks ago

Rugby

Great news!

There's a lab in Australia that managed to force the virus to show itself on infected cells as well as a report around 18 months ago that said scientists had found a way to effectively 'cut' the virus out of infected cells using CRISPR.

Exciting stuff.

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By *lasgow verse 60s guyMan
2 weeks ago

Glasgow

If European Commission have only just approved it expect a few years before NHS roll it out. All sorts of tests and trials before UK approval. You forget UK wanted out of Europe, so we have to wait and hope

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By *eaponOfAssDestruction.Man
2 weeks ago

Leeds

Amazing news. I’d switch onto it. I’m negative and on PREP.

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By *aturistnudeMan
2 weeks ago

Hoylake


"This is fantastic news. Hats off to all the courageous individuals who have dedicated decades of their lives to bring us to this moment. I hope it receives approval in the UK soon so that we can all have access to it here as well."

Great News

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By *ill_numbersMan
2 weeks ago

Leatherhead

At my last check-up/re-issue of PrEP & DoxyPEP, the nurse was (jokingly) lamenting that she'll be out of a job soon given the advances of the last few years.

Thank you to all involved in developing these.

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By *idingcockMan
2 weeks ago

Driffield

The anti-vaxxers will be apoplectic at this news.

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By *SAOFMan
2 weeks ago

Work/Play in London, live in Kent


"In previous contributions to chemo-prevention threads I have been accused of liking the sight of my own typing … if you choose to read on, you have been warned."

Lenacapavir is a new, long-acting form of prep that is injected. You get one injection every six months.

The treatment is just as effective as Descovy and Truvada (when used as prescribed) in preventing HIV seroconversion.

Unlike both the tablet forms, a twice-a-year injection has no risk that you forget to take a pill one day. Failures in oral PrEP are not failures in those who took the drug, they are failures in those who have not remembered to take their pills. Therefore for six months until due a new shot, you are protected.

Side effects exist but are less than some people get with Truvada or with Descovy.

Because you go to a clinic to get your injection, you have no PrEP pills to carry around with you. That means you are not going to interact with some who stigmatises you for having PrEP pills - no more visits to family where you have a nosy relative look in your medicines bag and ask awkward questions. More importantly if you have to travel in certain countries you may need not to flag that you are sexually active particularly for gay sex but also non-married straight sex. There are examples of deportations from Arab countries for the crime of having Truvada in one’s luggage. All of that is not an issue with an injectable.

Lenacapavir's injectable format provides a new option for other people who struggle with daily medication, be it a learning disability or a swallowing issue. It does bring its own challenges.

It needs clinic vists for the injection which is probably a good thing as it enables testing of other STIs. In fact, increased screening of gay men for STIs has been a major positive side impact of three-monthly PrEP and reducing to 6 monthly comes with a potential to limit uptake of STI screening.

It also costs more. The inventors of Truvada no longer hold a patent. It is cheap as chips. Descovy is patented but the NHS has a good deal though sensibly the NHS only gives out Descovy to patients not clinically suitable for Truvada. Lencapavir is expensive. It is a new drug so needs an enhanced level of specialist supervision driving up costs.

There are some people where access to PrEP is very poor. Some of these include women, particularly straight women. Sex workers may be independently managing their health but many are controlled by others and this may limit access. The at-home sexual partners of those who engage in risky behaviours have long been at increased risk. All of these link into a scenario of cohesive control. While some are seen in men who have sex with men, cohesive control victims are disproportionately female.

This brings us to its status in the UK. The drug is licensed here so it can be prescribed. However it is licensed as treatment not prevention. So while legal to prescribe, a doctor would be acting outside of “clinical norms”. Prescribing off-label as it’s known is common - almost every drug given to someone under 18 or who is pregnant is off-label. However, no one down the pharmacy is going to bat an eye giving antibiotic treatment to little Timmy’s ear infection cause each augmemtin tablet costs 5p. Similarly no one is going to worry if your sex health clinic prescribes long term doxycycline for STI prevention even though long term use is only licenced for malaria and psoriasis.

But if something costs the NHS thousands of pounds and could require thousands of patients to have two doses a year for ever, the people on the NHS and the departments of Health and HM Treasury get very interested very quickly. The list price for Lencapavir is set at £18,000 currently. The NHS will get very substantial discounts. But it will probably be at least £10k plus, so with twice yearly dosing you only need to treat 50 patients and it will cost £1m. And there are a lot more than 50 people who can benefit.

The National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) is currently evaluating its cost-effectiveness for the NHS. Approval is expected later in 2025, followed by a potential Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulation Authority (MHRA) decision within a month, making it a viable PrEP option for the UK for those who want to pay privately.

The best way to get unlicensed drugs in the UK is to be in a trial as that is how new uses eventually get licenced. I signed up for one not because I am controlled or worried about people seeing my Truvada but I sometimes forget. My 28 tablets usually see me through for 32 days. Nothing to worry about but the injectable would fix the problem.

I spoke to the researcher leading a London based study, having seen reference in a trials update where I work. He said he was surprised to be approached as their target demographic was not likely to come forward. I said that sounds like I am not part of their target.

His answer was informative even if he were couching his terms. They want the significant money they will spend to get as much bang for their buck. Whilst it is expensive, they want to pick up as many people who should be on PrEP but aren’t and in particular those that don’t feel comfortable taking pills or are in life situations where they can’t. It is the cohesively controlled, the sex workers whose pimps move them around, the wives who know their husband play away but are afraid to challenge them.

I can see their point. A white middle aged gay cis married man whose family all know he is gay, and know he is on PrEP and who will come in regularly and who will be 90% good at remembering to take his drugs is not likely to get significantly more benefits from the injectable over the oral PrEP. And definitely not £36k worth more benefit on the NHS’s dime.

So while the treatment is available in the UK it is unlikely to be available in the NHS for sometime outside of trial contexts.

In the meantime if you are not in the target demographics of the studies being set up, you are unlikely to benefit from the injectable above the swallowable. So stick to Truvada (or Descovy if you have serious kidney or bone issues).


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By *uxbritMan
2 weeks ago

hemel hempstead hertfordshire

I asked the nurse about this on my last visit a few months back and she was none the wiser

I also asked about Doxy and she said they would never do that which is bizarre because Americans can get it from their doctor

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By *lay1500Man
2 weeks ago

Chillington outside Kingsbridge

Last week had my regular test and collection of Prep and was given the opportunity to collect DoxyPEP and offered the new gonorrrhea jab at my next appointment

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By *tar33Man
2 weeks ago

North London (outer)


"I asked the nurse about this on my last visit a few months back and she was none the wiser

I also asked about Doxy and she said they would never do that which is bizarre because Americans can get it from their doctor "

Doxypep can be purchased quite cheaply online, from Doctor Fox.

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By *ill_numbersMan
2 weeks ago

Leatherhead

I was given both Doxypep and the gonorrhoea jab just a couple of weeks ago at my sexual health clinic.

If you haven't been offered it you should ask again.

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By *lackbootzMan
2 weeks ago

Hayes, Middx


"Not available on the NHS yet, so unlikely that anyone will be on it"

The OP copied and pasted a story telling us it has only been approved today but didn’t seem to have read the story he was pasting... 🙄

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
2 weeks ago


"Not available on the NHS yet, so unlikely that anyone will be on it"

True but what I mean are guys who might have participated in the clinical studies.

"In clinical studies, the jab was 100 per cent effective at preventing the virus, prompting experts to call it one of the biggest medical breakthroughs of 2024".

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