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By *eepeter4 OP   Man
7 days ago

Bournemouth

A Blue plaque dedicated to gay couple who defied conversation during the 1950s/60s has been unveiled at the shop they ran .

Maurice Dodson and Fred Halliday .

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By *dstefiMan
7 days ago

Solihull

They weren't into talking? Odd thing to be remembered for.

Wish this forum had an edit feature!

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By *eepeter4 OP   Man
7 days ago

Bournemouth


"They weren't into talking? Odd thing to be remembered for.

Wish this forum had an edit feature!"

sorry I mean convention not conversation .

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By *ookingaroundMan
7 days ago

Bristol


"A Blue plaque dedicated to gay couple who defied conversation during the 1950s/60s has been unveiled at the shop they ran .

Maurice Dodson and Fred Halliday ."

Good use of a blue plaque. Nice to see real people getting the recognition

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By *eepeter4 OP   Man
7 days ago

Bournemouth

If you guys want to see more about this story Google BBC radio Sheffield news to read the story about these 2 Gentlemen.

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By *eekingcumsMan
7 days ago

Stoke/Stafford

Blue Plaque.

Is that what happens when the dentist stains your teeth as a kid?

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By *eepeter4 OP   Man
7 days ago

Bournemouth


"Blue Plaque.

Is that what happens when the dentist stains your teeth as a kid?"

no dear it's a plaque they put on a building wall to said a famous person live here are a event that happened.

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By *eedsbearmanMan
7 days ago

Leeds


"They weren't into talking? Odd thing to be remembered for.

Wish this forum had an edit feature!"

They have everyone the silent treatment and just issued withering stares.

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By *ookingaroundMan
7 days ago

Bristol


"Blue Plaque.

Is that what happens when the dentist stains your teeth as a kid?no dear it's a plaque they put on a building wall to said a famous person live here are a event that happened."

#ironybypass 😆

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By *eefandfurMan
7 days ago

Edinburgh

What a lovely wee building. Glad the chaps and the shop are being recognised. Noticed the BBC website chose a photo of one of them wearing a bit of lipstick, probably only a matter of time before the TQ+ mob try to claim him as one their own and posthumously 'trans' him.

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By *awihMan
7 days ago

Aldershot

Someone else who perhaps should be recognise is Harold Gillies. He was an army doctor at the Cambridge Military Hospital in the First World War and is the father of modern plastic surgery, having developed techniques for facial reconstruction for soldiers injured in the war. In the late 1940’s he carried out Britains first gender reassignment surgery from male to female, and in the early 1950’s he carried out Britains first female to male reassignment surgery - both done at a time when it was questionable if it was legal to do.

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By *eepeter4 OP   Man
7 days ago

Bournemouth


"Someone else who perhaps should be recognise is Harold Gillies. He was an army doctor at the Cambridge Military Hospital in the First World War and is the father of modern plastic surgery, having developed techniques for facial reconstruction for soldiers injured in the war. In the late 1940’s he carried out Britains first gender reassignment surgery from male to female, and in the early 1950’s he carried out Britains first female to male reassignment surgery - both done at a time when it was questionable if it was legal to do."
I don't know that ,you learn something new on here everyday.

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By *awihMan
7 days ago

Aldershot


"Someone else who perhaps should be recognise is Harold Gillies. He was an army doctor at the Cambridge Military Hospital in the First World War and is the father of modern plastic surgery, having developed techniques for facial reconstruction for soldiers injured in the war. In the late 1940’s he carried out Britains first gender reassignment surgery from male to female, and in the early 1950’s he carried out Britains first female to male reassignment surgery - both done at a time when it was questionable if it was legal to do.I don't know that ,you learn something new on here everyday."

First heard about the Doctor in one of the “Portillo's Hidden History of Britain” episodes which was about the Cambridge Military Hospital in Aldershot - was quite fascinating.

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By *eepeter4 OP   Man
7 days ago

Bournemouth


"Someone else who perhaps should be recognise is Harold Gillies. He was an army doctor at the Cambridge Military Hospital in the First World War and is the father of modern plastic surgery, having developed techniques for facial reconstruction for soldiers injured in the war. In the late 1940’s he carried out Britains first gender reassignment surgery from male to female, and in the early 1950’s he carried out Britains first female to male reassignment surgery - both done at a time when it was questionable if it was legal to do.I don't know that ,you learn something new on here everyday.

First heard about the Doctor in one of the “Portillo's Hidden History of Britain” episodes which was about the Cambridge Military Hospital in Aldershot - was quite fascinating."

any program with Michael Portillo is worth watching learn alot from him

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By *eekingcumsMan
7 days ago

Stoke/Stafford


"Blue Plaque.

Is that what happens when the dentist stains your teeth as a kid?no dear it's a plaque they put on a building wall to said a famous person live here are a event that happened.

#ironybypass 😆"

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By *awihMan
7 days ago

Aldershot

The skin graft technique developed was quite fascinating. The problem they faced was that when taking a patch of skin and directly grafting it on the target area the grafted skin died off. But they found that by taking the graft but leaving it attached at one end and rolling it into a tube and reattaching the other end further up the body, after a few weeks they could sever the bottom end of the tube and reattach further up the body. By repeating the process they could slowly “walk” the tube of skin up the body to where it was needed, the final step when the bottom was cut was to unroll the tube and fully attach the graft to where it was needed, this walking (or waltzing as it was referred to) slowly up the body prevented the graft from dying off. Of course modern techniques don’t need this walking process now, but at the time of the First World War, it was a game changing technique, so much so, that the army established a much bigger hospital somewhere else for the number of patients they were having to treat.

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By *awihMan
7 days ago

Aldershot

https://historicengland.org.uk/research/inclusive-heritage/lgbtq-heritage-project/trans-and-gender-nonconforming-histories/trans-pioneers/

You can find out more about the pioneering people in the above link.

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By *airyandbelliedbottomMan
6 days ago

Barrow-in-Furness

Ooh I read this news story about Maurice Dobson and Fred Holliday. I am pleased they've got some recognition. They seemed like a nice couple it's a shame that Fred died then Maurice passed away the year homosexuality finally became legal. At least they had so many years of love together

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By *ammy aka SammyTV/TS
6 days ago

Bedford


"The skin graft technique developed was quite fascinating. The problem they faced was that when taking a patch of skin and directly grafting it on the target area the grafted skin died off. But they found that by taking the graft but leaving it attached at one end and rolling it into a tube and reattaching the other end further up the body, after a few weeks they could sever the bottom end of the tube and reattach further up the body. By repeating the process they could slowly “walk” the tube of skin up the body to where it was needed, the final step when the bottom was cut was to unroll the tube and fully attach the graft to where it was needed, this walking (or waltzing as it was referred to) slowly up the body prevented the graft from dying off. Of course modern techniques don’t need this walking process now, but at the time of the First World War, it was a game changing technique, so much so, that the army established a much bigger hospital somewhere else for the number of patients they were having to treat."
I think they were called the guinea pig men severely injured burned RAF especially x

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By *awihMan
6 days ago

Aldershot

Actually the treatment that I was talking about was WW1 - the RAF didn’t exist then it was the Royal Flying Corps then.

I think that the WW2 advance for burns was salt baths. They noticed that pilots with burns who had ditched in the channel healed a lot better than those who were burned on land.

https://historicengland.org.uk/education/schools-resources/educational-images/giving-a-burns-patient-a-saline-bath-queen-victoria-hospital-holtye-road-east-grinstead-11953

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By *etterbiggerMan
6 days ago

Scunthorpe

It seems Maurice and Fred have been forgotten or railroaded on this thread all ready. Nothing to do with gay rights and trans politics. They left the army after the second world war. Set up shop literally, in a Yorkshire mining community. Homosexuality illegal until 1967. They got on with their lives together serving the local community, who accepted them. A couple just making a living. Fought together. Lived together. Died while still together. Modern thinking can now celebrate that. Bless em

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