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"As reported, was met by 5 armed officers at heathrow when his plane landed, then arrested for something he said against the trans community in a tweet. First, Is using armed response in the manner a logical use of resources Second, Who instructed the police to respond? Was this an internal police issue i.e. are they monitoring everyones posts for offensive comments. Or, did someone complain, prompting the police to investigate, decide that an arrest warrant was applicable and then investigate where he was, what flight he was boarding and dispatch armed officers to respond. Third It seems on the surface, that the comments were made in defence of women being able to use “female” spaces without the fear of men dressed as women being in the same space, and also that men should be banned from female sports. All contentious issues, but when a comedian uses humour to make a point is this now a priority offence in the uk, Is free speech at risk of being eroded to the point that anything someone says that offends another is now a no go. Quite a few difficult subjects but wondered what the consensus here is. " Yawn | |||
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"Think a disgraced pro trans activist moaned. How about it if the Police investigated crime not moaning Minnie's " Because they're damned if they do, and damned if they don't. You demonstrated that in your post. | |||
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"I read his statement after being interviewed. Seriously, I think this mans quality of life would improve vastly if he took a break from social media. " So he should shut-up and conform? | |||
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"I read his statement after being interviewed. Seriously, I think this mans quality of life would improve vastly if he took a break from social media. So he should shut-up and conform? " I think that's the plan nowadays isn't it? Why else would they send the police around to ordinary folks houses etc. Behave or shut up. | |||
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"I read his statement after being interviewed. Seriously, I think this mans quality of life would improve vastly if he took a break from social media. So he should shut-up and conform? " If it's getting him into this sort of stupid shit, and his comments aren't going to change anything anyway, then yes. | |||
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"I read his statement after being interviewed. Seriously, I think this mans quality of life would improve vastly if he took a break from social media. So he should shut-up and conform? If it's getting him into this sort of stupid shit, and his comments aren't going to change anything anyway, then yes." The government telling you what you can and can't say and think, under threat of arrest, isn't ok. | |||
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"I read his statement after being interviewed. Seriously, I think this mans quality of life would improve vastly if he took a break from social media. So he should shut-up and conform? If it's getting him into this sort of stupid shit, and his comments aren't going to change anything anyway, then yes. The government telling you what you can and can't say and think, under threat of arrest, isn't ok. " Our government seems to think so. | |||
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"I read his statement after being interviewed. Seriously, I think this mans quality of life would improve vastly if he took a break from social media. So he should shut-up and conform? If it's getting him into this sort of stupid shit, and his comments aren't going to change anything anyway, then yes. The government telling you what you can and can't say and think, under threat of arrest, isn't ok. Our government seems to think so. " Herr Stasi Starmer and his Kabal of Karens.  | |||
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"I read his statement after being interviewed. Seriously, I think this mans quality of life would improve vastly if he took a break from social media. So he should shut-up and conform? If it's getting him into this sort of stupid shit, and his comments aren't going to change anything anyway, then yes. The government telling you what you can and can't say and think, under threat of arrest, isn't ok. Our government seems to think so. Herr Stasi Starmer and his Kabal of Karens. "..... ... 🤔 But....but... Dismissive labels. Lol 😭 | |||
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"I read his statement after being interviewed. Seriously, I think this mans quality of life would improve vastly if he took a break from social media. So he should shut-up and conform? If it's getting him into this sort of stupid shit, and his comments aren't going to change anything anyway, then yes. The government telling you what you can and can't say and think, under threat of arrest, isn't ok. Our government seems to think so. Herr Stasi Starmer and his Kabal of Karens.
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😭"As someone that supports two terrorist organisations, as defined by the UK government, are you sure you want to attack someone that disagrees with you, but supports your right to hold those opinions and to express them without the fear of arrest? | |||
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"And yet another slice of pi whilst completely failing to acknowledge the point made. The hypocrisy of course is hilarious.🤣" Context and chronology are both important. Starmer is not participating in this thread. My position is laid out in previous posts, without resorting to dismissive personal attacks on the OP or any other contributor. You attempt to continue a grudge from another thread while contributing nothing more than another dismissive insult; this time an accusation of hilarious hypocrisy. | |||
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"I read his statement after being interviewed. Seriously, I think this mans quality of life would improve vastly if he took a break from social media. So he should shut-up and conform? If it's getting him into this sort of stupid shit, and his comments aren't going to change anything anyway, then yes. The government telling you what you can and can't say and think, under threat of arrest, isn't ok. " You can think and say what you like, but threatening violence on a public platform is a really stupid idea. | |||
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"I read his statement after being interviewed. Seriously, I think this mans quality of life would improve vastly if he took a break from social media. So he should shut-up and conform? If it's getting him into this sort of stupid shit, and his comments aren't going to change anything anyway, then yes. The government telling you what you can and can't say and think, under threat of arrest, isn't ok. You can think and say what you like, but threatening violence on a public platform is a really stupid idea. " If he had done that, I would agree with you. | |||
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"I read his statement after being interviewed. Seriously, I think this mans quality of life would improve vastly if he took a break from social media. So he should shut-up and conform? If it's getting him into this sort of stupid shit, and his comments aren't going to change anything anyway, then yes. The government telling you what you can and can't say and think, under threat of arrest, isn't ok. You can think and say what you like, but threatening violence on a public platform is a really stupid idea. If he had done that, I would agree with you. " Thats exactly what he did. | |||
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"And yet another slice of pi whilst completely failing to acknowledge the point made. The hypocrisy of course is hilarious.🤣 Context and chronology are both important. Starmer is not participating in this thread. My position is laid out in previous posts, without resorting to dismissive personal attacks on the OP or any other contributor. You attempt to continue a grudge from another thread while contributing nothing more than another dismissive insult; this time an accusation of hilarious hypocrisy. " ... ... There is no grudge. If that was the case using your logic, that would work both ways. The hypocrisy is indeed laughable. Going into victim mode just doesn't work as you are happy to dish it out. You berated me for the use of 'dismissive labels' yet a wee while later use them and can't handle someone sharing their opinion that suggests you are displaying a breathtaking hypocrisy. Btw What terrorist groups? What posts did I offer any support? You will be a long time looking.What you said was quite incredible and frankly very stupid. Before you cross the line and engage in such daft offensiveness, have a wee think. I don't support terrorism. Cloud cuckoo land if you think so. | |||
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"I read his statement after being interviewed. Seriously, I think this mans quality of life would improve vastly if he took a break from social media. So he should shut-up and conform? If it's getting him into this sort of stupid shit, and his comments aren't going to change anything anyway, then yes. The government telling you what you can and can't say and think, under threat of arrest, isn't ok. You can think and say what you like, but threatening violence on a public platform is a really stupid idea. If he had done that, I would agree with you. Thats exactly what he did. " It's an interesting point. I am pretty sure that he would mount a defence based on the idea that it was a comedic comment. I was going to suggest that the police at the airport should have kicked Mr Linehan in the balls and let him on his merry way. My intention is comedic, but if someone interprets my words as a call to action ,am I in breach? | |||
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"I read his statement after being interviewed. Seriously, I think this mans quality of life would improve vastly if he took a break from social media. So he should shut-up and conform? If it's getting him into this sort of stupid shit, and his comments aren't going to change anything anyway, then yes. The government telling you what you can and can't say and think, under threat of arrest, isn't ok. You can think and say what you like, but threatening violence on a public platform is a really stupid idea. If he had done that, I would agree with you. Thats exactly what he did. It's an interesting point. I am pretty sure that he would mount a defence based on the idea that it was a comedic comment. I was going to suggest that the police at the airport should have kicked Mr Linehan in the balls and let him on his merry way. My intention is comedic, but if someone interprets my words as a call to action ,am I in breach?" It's an interesting point and even if it wasn't comedic is it showing actual intent to harm? For example on the thread about Laura Kuennsberg; this comment " I doubt she'd enjoy it but I'd defo throw her about" is that a harmless piece of banter, or something more sinister, that should result in the poster being arrested? | |||
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"I read his statement after being interviewed. Seriously, I think this mans quality of life would improve vastly if he took a break from social media. So he should shut-up and conform? If it's getting him into this sort of stupid shit, and his comments aren't going to change anything anyway, then yes. The government telling you what you can and can't say and think, under threat of arrest, isn't ok. You can think and say what you like, but threatening violence on a public platform is a really stupid idea. If he had done that, I would agree with you. Thats exactly what he did. It's an interesting point. I am pretty sure that he would mount a defence based on the idea that it was a comedic comment. I was going to suggest that the police at the airport should have kicked Mr Linehan in the balls and let him on his merry way. My intention is comedic, but if someone interprets my words as a call to action ,am I in breach?" When Jo Brand joked on an actual comedy show that its a shame it wasn't battery acid thrown at farage instead of a milkshake, the immediately said obviously I'm joking. Farage asked for her to be arrested. Yet now people like him don't want people arrested even though we have an online safety bill. | |||
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"I read his statement after being interviewed. Seriously, I think this mans quality of life would improve vastly if he took a break from social media. So he should shut-up and conform? If it's getting him into this sort of stupid shit, and his comments aren't going to change anything anyway, then yes. The government telling you what you can and can't say and think, under threat of arrest, isn't ok. Our government seems to think so. Herr Stasi Starmer and his Kabal of Karens. "Under which government were these laws and policies put into place? | |||
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"I read his statement after being interviewed. Seriously, I think this mans quality of life would improve vastly if he took a break from social media. So he should shut-up and conform? If it's getting him into this sort of stupid shit, and his comments aren't going to change anything anyway, then yes. The government telling you what you can and can't say and think, under threat of arrest, isn't ok. Our government seems to think so. Herr Stasi Starmer and his Kabal of Karens.
Under which government were these laws and policies put into place?"And where they right then , this isn’t party politics is the slippery slope. Each new government will add another layer | |||
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"I read his statement after being interviewed. Seriously, I think this mans quality of life would improve vastly if he took a break from social media. So he should shut-up and conform? If it's getting him into this sort of stupid shit, and his comments aren't going to change anything anyway, then yes. The government telling you what you can and can't say and think, under threat of arrest, isn't ok. Our government seems to think so. Herr Stasi Starmer and his Kabal of Karens.
Under which government were these laws and policies put into place?
And where they right then , this isn’t party politics is the slippery slope.
Each new government will add another layer "Not party politics until it’s a chance to yell at Starmer. 🤣 | |||
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"If you stood in the middle of your high street saying, if I see a trans woman I'm going to kick them in the private parts, you would probably get arrested. Its no different. " What he actually wrote: "If a trans-identified male is in a female-only space, he is committing a violent, abusive act. Make a scene, call the cops and if all else fails, punch him in the balls" This was posted four days after the Supreme Court clarified the definition of sex under the Equality Act to mean biological sex. | |||
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"I read his statement after being interviewed. Seriously, I think this mans quality of life would improve vastly if he took a break from social media. So he should shut-up and conform? If it's getting him into this sort of stupid shit, and his comments aren't going to change anything anyway, then yes. The government telling you what you can and can't say and think, under threat of arrest, isn't ok. Our government seems to think so. Herr Stasi Starmer and his Kabal of Karens.
Under which government were these laws and policies put into place?"Accumulated laws and amendments under the Tory/Labour Uniparty. This isn't party political it's liberty vs creeping authoritarianism. | |||
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" Why don't we just go back to fighting the next village for our food and water. " They've only recently stopped doing that around here. Or at least I think they have.  | |||
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"Never ceases to amaze me how people are so afraid of something on a daily bases. They used to call them luddites didn't they? Why don't we just go back to fighting the next village for our food and water. " Never ceases to amaze how little we seem to have progressed since 17th century Pendle. Never ceases to amaze how complacent people can be, or perhaps arrogant in the belief that we are somehow more sophisticated or inherently more moral than the Germans, the Russians, the Chinese, the Cambodians... | |||
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"He is an attention seeking prick Who fucking cares he isn’t getting arrested either way over it . It’s a minor annoyance to him nothing more . Just gives him another 69 seconds to spew and rant into the void "Getting arrested by five armed police officers, immediately after a long-haul flight, taken into custody for interrogation and having to go to hospital, as his BP went through the roof, is a bit more than a "minor annoyance". | |||
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"He is an attention seeking prick Who fucking cares he isn’t getting arrested either way over it . It’s a minor annoyance to him nothing more . Just gives him another 69 seconds to spew and rant into the void "Says the guy in an internet forum 🤣 | |||
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"He is an attention seeking prick Who fucking cares he isn’t getting arrested either way over it . It’s a minor annoyance to him nothing more . Just gives him another 69 seconds to spew and rant into the void "Says the prick (your word) who can't see the importantance of free speech, because he's so obsessed with his special "in group". | |||
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"He is an attention seeking prick Who fucking cares he isn’t getting arrested either way over it . It’s a minor annoyance to him nothing more . Just gives him another 69 seconds to spew and rant into the void
Says the prick (your word) who can't see the importantance of free speech, because he's so obsessed with his special "in group". "typical response for a fat right Winchester resident | |||
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"1. Police at Heathrow are armed as a matter of course, so irrelevant to this arrest. 2. If someone had made a complaint against him, and the allegation amounted to an arrestable offence, he would've been 'flagged' when boarding any UK flight. That would have notified police at the destination airport. 3. Police don't usually need a warrant to arrest someone, they already have a power of arrest." Being armed is not irrelevant to his arrest It took 5 armed officers out of the equation should a real incident have arisen | |||
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"1. Police at Heathrow are armed as a matter of course, so irrelevant to this arrest. 2. If someone had made a complaint against him, and the allegation amounted to an arrestable offence, he would've been 'flagged' when boarding any UK flight. That would have notified police at the destination airport. 3. Police don't usually need a warrant to arrest someone, they already have a power of arrest. Being armed is not irrelevant to his arrest It took 5 armed officers out of the equation should a real incident have arisen " Agreed it’s a misuse of resources, the point about it being irrelevant is probably relating to the fact they were not armed especially for the task, they happened already to have their guns with them for safekeeping. | |||
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"It appears that the “punch them in the balls” tweet (if thats still a thing on X) was submitted while he was in the USA. If so it was protected under 1st amendment rights and outside the jurisdiction of UK law. " I cross posted similar. Does this only apply to US citizens? | |||
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"It appears that the “punch them in the balls” tweet (if thats still a thing on X) was submitted while he was in the USA. If so it was protected under 1st amendment rights and outside the jurisdiction of UK law. I cross posted similar. Does this only apply to US citizens? " I don’t believe so, it applies to anyone in the country the law relates to. Our laws govern how you should act whilst here. Not there. | |||
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"It appears that the “punch them in the balls” tweet (if thats still a thing on X) was submitted while he was in the USA. If so it was protected under 1st amendment rights and outside the jurisdiction of UK law. " Nope, its on social media that us worldwide, not just in America. Nice try. | |||
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"Never ceases to amaze me how people are so afraid of something on a daily bases. They used to call them luddites didn't they? Why don't we just go back to fighting the next village for our food and water. Never ceases to amaze how little we seem to have progressed since 17th century Pendle. Never ceases to amaze how complacent people can be, or perhaps arrogant in the belief that we are somehow more sophisticated or inherently more moral than the Germans, the Russians, the Chinese, the Cambodians... " Thats the problem, we are not, therefore some can be lead to believe what is not true to overturn a current government. We have to learn from history before we repeat it. Xxxxxxx | |||
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"It appears that the “punch them in the balls” tweet (if thats still a thing on X) was submitted while he was in the USA. If so it was protected under 1st amendment rights and outside the jurisdiction of UK law. Nope, its on social media that us worldwide, not just in America. Nice try." It really isnt a “nice try” the law is quite clear that any online opinion is subject the the law pertaining to the country in which it is posted, unless the subject is under the jurisdiction of cross border agreements between governments such as CP or is posted by proscribed terrorist groups. | |||
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"He is an attention seeking prick Who fucking cares he isn’t getting arrested either way over it . It’s a minor annoyance to him nothing more . Just gives him another 69 seconds to spew and rant into the void
Says the guy in an internet forum 🤣"Yes and your point You are just another chap on a forum as well | |||
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"He is an attention seeking prick Who fucking cares he isn’t getting arrested either way over it . It’s a minor annoyance to him nothing more . Just gives him another 69 seconds to spew and rant into the void
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Yes and your point You are just another chap on a forum as well "Absolutely, my opinion is as worthless as every other one here. I am aware of that though. Not all of our correspondents share that. | |||
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