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"Australia and NZ ,have the correct model of immigration. If you don't work, add to the economy, or sponge of the government, you get told to fuck off. Quite rightly too. I've wanted out of the UK for a while, myself and wife have high paid jobs, but aren't skills they consider desirable. My bro is a doctor, lives quite happily in NZ. " That’s not true, they take in a great number of refugees and asylum seekers. It just happens to be that it is difficult to make your own way there from the refugee hot spots. | |||
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"Just asking! Why would you want to go to Australia??" It’s absolutely glorious, that’s why. | |||
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"Australia and NZ ,have the correct model of immigration. If you don't work, add to the economy, or sponge of the government, you get told to fuck off. Quite rightly too. I've wanted out of the UK for a while, myself and wife have high paid jobs, but aren't skills they consider desirable. My bro is a doctor, lives quite happily in NZ. That’s not true, they take in a great number of refugees and asylum seekers. It just happens to be that it is difficult to make your own way there from the refugee hot spots. " It is true. Both countries don't get boats across, they also vet every single person. They may allow migration, but they're also spot on with checking you can afford to contribute to the economy. Makes sense doesn't? | |||
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"I'll leave it at my last comment. Don't want banned from the forum ![]() Haha, the locals are grand once you get to know them! The scenery is superb The weather is cracking if a tad on the warm side The food is second to none Good beer Great wine Superb wildlife Big empty roads | |||
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"So what's stopping you emigrating? " You can't get in if you don't have a skill to contribute to the society, or have a certain amount in the bank to ensure you don't claim benefits. | |||
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"So what's stopping you emigrating? " My partner’s job cannot take place anywhere else apart from where she works now. She’s also very pale and couldn’t go out for 6 months of the year 🤣 | |||
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"So the Uks not so bad then? ![]() I don’t understand your point? I don’t recall ever saying it was. We are discussing Australia and its, considerable virtues. | |||
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"Australia and NZ ,have the correct model of immigration. If you don't work, add to the economy, or sponge of the government, you get told to fuck off. Quite rightly too. I've wanted out of the UK for a while, myself and wife have high paid jobs, but aren't skills they consider desirable. My bro is a doctor, lives quite happily in NZ. That’s not true, they take in a great number of refugees and asylum seekers. It just happens to be that it is difficult to make your own way there from the refugee hot spots. It is true. Both countries don't get boats across, they also vet every single person. They may allow migration, but they're also spot on with checking you can afford to contribute to the economy. Makes sense doesn't? " The system is far from perfect here tbh. I wasn't vetted whatsoever in the first two years but that's mostly due to being white and Irish - I was seen as low priority and the visa granted literally in seconds. There's huge scandals here recently where they police vetting system and the vetting system to work with children has been catastrophically and systematically failing. I work in healthcare and was dumbfounded at the obvious holes in the vetting system from the start. Australia is amazing but they often piss into the wind and try to reinvent the wheel instead of just adopting things that are proven to work elsewhere and put their own twist on it. | |||
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"Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to move to Australia need some info and no silly comments honest replies onlt please. " I'd say south east | |||
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"Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to move to Australia need some info and no silly comments honest replies onlt please. I'd say south east" If you stick at it, north west will do too | |||
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"Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to move to Australia need some info and no silly comments honest replies onlt please. I'd say south east If you stick at it, north west will do too" The scenic route | |||
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"I'm just interested in why it's so great? A beer fridge free on a Friday afternoon? Ballocks load of sunshine (that your partner couldn't cope with) Wages slightly better than UK until you calculate cost of living and housing. I do know a few who have emigrated over the years and it's apparently not all it's made out to be. But hey everyone to their own ![]() I’m still trying to figure out your point, if you are just seeking to have an argument or if you have a substantive concern with the country, or if you just need to have a pedantic point that you can pick in what others are saying. But you don’t seem to actually have anything tangible to offer as a counterpoint. | |||
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"Many moons ago a work colleague emigrated to Oz. Tech companies were recruiting in those days. I asked him what the number 1 selling factor was him. I got an emphatic reply. "They have a beer fridge in the office, totally free, and they leave it open on Friday afternoons". That is as good as answer as any ![]() My London office has a bar too ![]() | |||
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"No I'm not wanting an argument and I just have an opinion of Australia which I'm entitled to have. Personally it's the last country on the planet I'd visit even if I could afford to travel the world. I have an opinion of it's residents from personal experience that I'm most certainly not disclosing on here. Good luck to anyone who has desires to go there but, personally, I'd rsther have a week in the Cairngorms ![]() I don’t think anyone has said you aren’t entitled to an opinion so it’s curious why you seem so defensive about having one. I would say, and this applies to Fifers as much as anyone else, if you decry an entire kingdom’s residents just because you have met some you don’t like, then that’s a sign of a very narrow viewpoint, not a lack of virtue in the kingdom itself. As I am sure anyone from KDY will attest given they share a border with people from Dunfermline. As for a week in the Cairngorms, give me a tent, Loch an Eilein and a bottle of Tomatin and then you truly are in heaven. | |||
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"I'm not a Fifer actually but how were you to know that? " But you are from Fife now and you would presumably defend Fife as an ok place to live despite the cretins from Dunfermline? | |||
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"Nope, came here for work, nothing else. " I see, well we are somewhat deflecting from the point, but you are getting your pedant points in so everyone is a winner. 😆 | |||
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"Pedantery to you probably, but only because I'm not disclosing sufficient information on here ![]() No, it’s the inherent nit picking without any substantive point that is precipitating the pedant accusations. | |||
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"No I'm not wanting an argument and I just have an opinion of Australia which I'm entitled to have. Personally it's the last country on the planet I'd visit even if I could afford to travel the world. I have an opinion of it's residents from personal experience that I'm most certainly not disclosing on here. Good luck to anyone who has desires to go there but, personally, I'd rsther have a week in the Cairngorms ![]() We all have an opinion on things of course! You have mentioned one of a negative point of view, equally valid, if the experience was of something serious, there are places to report it. | |||
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"No I'm not wanting an argument and I just have an opinion of Australia which I'm entitled to have. Personally it's the last country on the planet I'd visit even if I could afford to travel the world. I have an opinion of it's residents from personal experience that I'm most certainly not disclosing on here. Good luck to anyone who has desires to go there but, personally, I'd rsther have a week in the Cairngorms ![]() Rolf Harris? | |||
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"We have kinda hi jacked our friend’s thread, possibly better to wheesht and let it get back to the point." So right now- poor bloke asks a simple enough question and it’s a cue to start a digital fight. Are we all obsessed about being right rather than being happy? | |||
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"We have kinda hi jacked our friend’s thread, possibly better to wheesht and let it get back to the point. So right now- poor bloke asks a simple enough question and it’s a cue to start a digital fight. Are we all obsessed about being right rather than being happy?" Is this your first time on a forum? 🤣 I mean you make a good point but I think the answer to your question is patently obvious. | |||
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"We have kinda hi jacked our friend’s thread, possibly better to wheesht and let it get back to the point. So right now- poor bloke asks a simple enough question and it’s a cue to start a digital fight. Are we all obsessed about being right rather than being happy? Is this your first time on a forum? 🤣 I mean you make a good point but I think the answer to your question is patently obvious. " Doesn’t mean we should hand over all our conversations to the loudest and most aggressive in tone. Don’t normalise bullying or the self-opinionated. | |||
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"We have kinda hi jacked our friend’s thread, possibly better to wheesht and let it get back to the point. So right now- poor bloke asks a simple enough question and it’s a cue to start a digital fight. Are we all obsessed about being right rather than being happy? Is this your first time on a forum? 🤣 I mean you make a good point but I think the answer to your question is patently obvious. Doesn’t mean we should hand over all our conversations to the loudest and most aggressive in tone. Don’t normalise bullying or the self-opinionated. " In theory absolutely, in practice, that just how humans are. It’s already normal. | |||
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