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"I know lots of married men that like man on man sex. But why is it when describing themselves they call themselves a str8 married man. In my day it was still against the law to be gay so all gay men got married and had kids. Just because they got married didn't turn them str8. " No, I’m the same age as the OP, and whilst I did get married and have kids, that was my choice. But to say “In my day it was still against the law to be gay so all gay men got married and had kids” is not true. Many gay men didn’t, and whilst homosexuality was illegal in parts of the UK like Scotland, it didn’t make all men claim they were “straight”. | |||
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"I know lots of married men that like man on man sex. But why is it when describing themselves they call themselves a str8 married man. In my day it was still against the law to be gay so all gay men got married and had kids. Just because they got married didn't turn them str8. " Denial  | |||
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"can’t be arsed with labels, just enjoy what you do. This." Hear, hear!!👏👏 | |||
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" If you're actually bi and like sex with men, own it FFS. " Hear hear! | |||
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"It's the internalised homophobia " Yes, and biphobia | |||
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"I know lots of married men that like man on man sex. But why is it when describing themselves they call themselves a str8 married man. In my day it was still against the law to be gay so all gay men got married and had kids. Just because they got married didn't turn them str8. " Two questions. When was it against the UK law to be gay? Why are you bothered about how people view themselves? | |||
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"Labels are for product" Perhaps “Label” is the wrong word to use maybe “Define” would be better in this context “To define something is to clearly explain or state its meaning, qualities, or limits, whether it's a word, an idea, a physical object, or even a person's character.” | |||
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"Maybe they are just saying that they are not out and appear straight in their everyday lives. It’s a way of saying that this is their secret side and they don’t want to be exposed. Why do you care how they label themselves. It doesn’t affect you. Just respect their decision. " Because men who can't acknowledge the fact that they are bi or gay, because they usually think there is something wrong with that, are just part of the problem with homo/biphobia - they'll be the ones saying "look at that bloody poof" while longing to be sucking their cock in Tesco toilets | |||
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"When was it against the UK law to be gay?" 1533 to 1861 the death penalty for acts of buggery. This was abolished and was replaced with a minimum of 10 years imprisonment. https://www.trethowans.com/insights/history-of-lgbt-law-in-england-and-wales/ | |||
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"Maybe they are just saying that they are not out and appear straight in their everyday lives. It’s a way of saying that this is their secret side and they don’t want to be exposed. Why do you care how they label themselves. It doesn’t affect you. Just respect their decision. Because men who can't acknowledge the fact that they are bi or gay, because they usually think there is something wrong with that, are just part of the problem with homo/biphobia - they'll be the ones saying "look at that bloody poof" while longing to be sucking their cock in Tesco toilets" Clearly you just didn’t get what I was saying. Instead you just add your own label and more worryingly your own prejudice. Not all men who are actually straight (not those who use that label on here) are “part of the problem” or think there is something wrong with people who are bi or gay. Your narrow minded answer clearly demonstrates your own issues. It’s attitudes like yours that create divisions in society. | |||
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"When was it against the UK law to be gay? 1533 to 1861 the death penalty for acts of buggery. This was abolished and was replaced with a minimum of 10 years imprisonment. https://www.trethowans.com/insights/history-of-lgbt-law-in-england-and-wales/" Could a man not bugger a woman or does that have a different meaning? | |||
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"Maybe they are just saying that they are not out and appear straight in their everyday lives. It’s a way of saying that this is their secret side and they don’t want to be exposed. Why do you care how they label themselves. It doesn’t affect you. Just respect their decision. Because men who can't acknowledge the fact that they are bi or gay, because they usually think there is something wrong with that, are just part of the problem with homo/biphobia - they'll be the ones saying "look at that bloody poof" while longing to be sucking their cock in Tesco toilets Clearly you just didn’t get what I was saying. Instead you just add your own label and more worryingly your own prejudice. Not all men who are actually straight (not those who use that label on here) are “part of the problem” or think there is something wrong with people who are bi or gay. Your narrow minded answer clearly demonstrates your own issues. It’s attitudes like yours that create divisions in society. " You need to reread what I wrote | |||
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"Maybe they are just saying that they are not out and appear straight in their everyday lives. It’s a way of saying that this is their secret side and they don’t want to be exposed. Why do you care how they label themselves. It doesn’t affect you. Just respect their decision. Because men who can't acknowledge the fact that they are bi or gay, because they usually think there is something wrong with that, are just part of the problem with homo/biphobia - they'll be the ones saying "look at that bloody poof" while longing to be sucking their cock in Tesco toilets Clearly you just didn’t get what I was saying. Instead you just add your own label and more worryingly your own prejudice. Not all men who are actually straight (not those who use that label on here) are “part of the problem” or think there is something wrong with people who are bi or gay. Your narrow minded answer clearly demonstrates your own issues. It’s attitudes like yours that create divisions in society. You need to reread what I wrote" No. I have read enough of your negative responses in other threads. You need to accept that if someone wants to call themselves straight it doesn’t affect you. Let it go. | |||
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"When was it against the UK law to be gay? 1533 to 1861 the death penalty for acts of buggery. This was abolished and was replaced with a minimum of 10 years imprisonment. https://www.trethowans.com/insights/history-of-lgbt-law-in-england-and-wales/ Could a man not bugger a woman or does that have a different meaning?" Yes, the law only proscribed the act between two men. Also Lesbianism was never criminalised. | |||
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"If people want to try and understand what life was like for gay people before 1967 try watching a film called Victim staring Dirk Bogart." That's a brilliant film . Heightened by Bogart's own sexuality, he understood the emotions. | |||
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" I think gay guys like to think straight guys who are in this category (MSM) are in denial but I honestly don't think thats the case for SOME guys. " Do you think a straight guy (who doesn't have sex with men) who found two guys sucking each other in the bogs would class them as "straight"? It's not gay men projecting... | |||
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"I’m bisexual. I’m married and the wife knows. I have the freedom to be who I want to be. " Isn't that a pop song ...?..😃🕺 | |||
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"When was it against the UK law to be gay? 1533 to 1861 the death penalty for acts of buggery. This was abolished and was replaced with a minimum of 10 years imprisonment. https://www.trethowans.com/insights/history-of-lgbt-law-in-england-and-wales/ Could a man not bugger a woman or does that have a different meaning? Yes, the law only proscribed the act between two men. Also Lesbianism was never criminalised. " What was anal between a man and a woman - was that illegal? I'm only asking as you seem to know | |||
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""Str8 guy here. Enjoy cock" If I had a penny for every time I've heard that I'd have £4.85" Can't do nuffink with £4.85 these days guv.... | |||
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"Maybe they are just saying that they are not out and appear straight in their everyday lives. It’s a way of saying that this is their secret side and they don’t want to be exposed. Why do you care how they label themselves. It doesn’t affect you. Just respect their decision. Because men who can't acknowledge the fact that they are bi or gay, because they usually think there is something wrong with that, are just part of the problem with homo/biphobia - they'll be the ones saying "look at that bloody poof" while longing to be sucking their cock in Tesco toilets Clearly you just didn’t get what I was saying. Instead you just add your own label and more worryingly your own prejudice. Not all men who are actually straight (not those who use that label on here) are “part of the problem” or think there is something wrong with people who are bi or gay. Your narrow minded answer clearly demonstrates your own issues. It’s attitudes like yours that create divisions in society. You need to reread what I wrote No. I have read enough of your negative responses in other threads. You need to accept that if someone wants to call themselves straight it doesn’t affect you. Let it go. " Go on just read it one more time | |||
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"Bi means you are attracted to both man and women, gay means you are only attracted to same sex. Straight means your attracted to the opposite sex only. Just because you enjoy sex it doesn't mean you need to give yourself a label. Sex is just sex and only sex. I'm fully straight, I'm married to a women I have had kids. I only find women attractive. I don't look at a man and find him attractive. I'll let any man use and abuse me as his sex object regardless of what he looks like and I'll be left feeling used, worthless,dirty, degraded. " Do your wife and kids think you're straight when you come home dripping spunk? | |||
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"I'm married but am gay " Yet you are bi sexual on your profile. How many who say I am married but bi, say this to their friends and family. I would guess not many. | |||
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"When was it against the UK law to be gay? 1533 to 1861 the death penalty for acts of buggery. This was abolished and was replaced with a minimum of 10 years imprisonment. https://www.trethowans.com/insights/history-of-lgbt-law-in-england-and-wales/" That was a law that made buggery illegal, it doesn't mention any difference if the recipient is male or female. That aside, not all gay people engage in 'buggery', and homosexuality itself was not illegal. | |||
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"can’t be arsed with labels, just enjoy what you do." , people get so hung up on labels | |||
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"I identify as bisexual but I am much more attracted to women than men. I get turned on by looking at fully clothed women in the street, even just looking at their faces. That doesn't happen with men: I only get the hots for them when we meet and we're both ready for sex. I am married but don't get much sex with my wife so I need another outlet. If it was as easy to arrange NSA meets with women as it is with other men I would do so. But it's difficult, especially if you want anything kinky. For a lot of guys, it's a matter of availability so I can understand why some guys, especially if new to the game, convince themselves they are still straight even though they enjoy a wank with another man. Come on lads: be bicurious if you want but satisfy your curiosity and have a good time with gay and bisexual partners. It's worth it!" yep I'm the same. If choice between a women and man it would be a women. | |||
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"The OP has a point. Of course the vast majority of married men are totally straight. However a few are bi. Enjoy full marital sex with the wife but a bit of man-on-man on the side. Plenty of those on here. Yes a lot of us got married because it 'was the done thing'. Even thought it would 'straighten' us out in time. Didn't work at all with me. Just confirmed that I was totally gay so the marriage failed and ended. Incidentally OP you are only a year older than me. Homosexuality was decriminalised in 1967 when I was 10/11 so it was legal when you were old enough to have sex even if it was still not generally acceptable." But homosexuality among men was illegal in Scotland, where I lived, until 1980. Same-sex contact between women had never been targeted in law and was not illegal. | |||
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"The OP has a point. Of course the vast majority of married men are totally straight. However a few are bi. Enjoy full marital sex with the wife but a bit of man-on-man on the side. Plenty of those on here. Yes a lot of us got married because it 'was the done thing'. Even thought it would 'straighten' us out in time. Didn't work at all with me. Just confirmed that I was totally gay so the marriage failed and ended. Incidentally OP you are only a year older than me. Homosexuality was decriminalised in 1967 when I was 10/11 so it was legal when you were old enough to have sex even if it was still not generally acceptable. But homosexuality among men was illegal in Scotland, where I lived, until 1980. Same-sex contact between women had never been targeted in law and was not illegal." Tell us what the law in Scotland making homosexuality illegal was please, act & section. | |||
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"The OP has a point. Of course the vast majority of married men are totally straight. However a few are bi. Enjoy full marital sex with the wife but a bit of man-on-man on the side. Plenty of those on here. Yes a lot of us got married because it 'was the done thing'. Even thought it would 'straighten' us out in time. Didn't work at all with me. Just confirmed that I was totally gay so the marriage failed and ended. Incidentally OP you are only a year older than me. Homosexuality was decriminalised in 1967 when I was 10/11 so it was legal when you were old enough to have sex even if it was still not generally acceptable. But homosexuality among men was illegal in Scotland, where I lived, until 1980. Same-sex contact between women had never been targeted in law and was not illegal." I did not realise that even though I know Scottish Law is different to the rest of the UK. | |||
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"can’t be arsed with labels, just enjoy what you do." And who you do… | |||
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"A lot of men like myself are secretly bi and can never be openly out,to the outside world we call ourselves straight" Indeed we are | |||
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"The OP has a point. Of course the vast majority of married men are totally straight. However a few are bi. Enjoy full marital sex with the wife but a bit of man-on-man on the side. Plenty of those on here. Yes a lot of us got married because it 'was the done thing'. Even thought it would 'straighten' us out in time. Didn't work at all with me. Just confirmed that I was totally gay so the marriage failed and ended. Incidentally OP you are only a year older than me. Homosexuality was decriminalised in 1967 when I was 10/11 so it was legal when you were old enough to have sex even if it was still not generally acceptable. But homosexuality among men was illegal in Scotland, where I lived, until 1980. Same-sex contact between women had never been targeted in law and was not illegal. I did not realise that even though I know Scottish Law is different to the rest of the UK." You didn't realise that because it isn't true. I asked the poster for details but they haven't responded yet, what I found makes no mention of homosexuality being illegal. "In Scotland, private homosexual acts between consenting men over 21 were decriminalised by the Criminal Justice (Scotland) Act 1980, which came into force in 1981, aligning with the UK's Sexual Offences Act 1967". So certain acts may have been illegal, but it wasn't illegal to be homosexual. | |||
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"I call married guys straight if they identify as straight - be that in denial ('straight') or being MSM (straight). Some married men are gay, some are bi and I believe some married guys are straight - these are the guys who are comfortable to get a bj from a guy but wont do anything else. I think gay guys like to think straight guys who are in this category (MSM) are in denial but I honestly don't think thats the case for SOME guys. Having said that, that doesn't alter the fact that the majority of guys who have sex with each other are gay or bi. " I'd largely concur with this sensible approach ⤴️. I think it's often about behaviours rather than identities or labels. In a crude manner, some of my less than tactful truly straight friends, as well as some of my MSM friends, agree that any man who is 'man enough' to try cock and doesn't like it, is a true straight, whereas the one who tried cock and comes back for more whilst still living a genuinely happy and satisfying straight lifestyle is probably more of a MSM. Gawd, who cares!?🤷🏽♂️ | |||
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