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"The government already hold electronic data on you if you have a passport or used the NHS or have a driving licence. " Exactly! The only people I can see who'd be bothered by it are tin foil hat wearers who don't own a mobile or use the internet, pay cash for everything, never leave the country, never use the health services and walk everywhere. | |||
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"The government already hold electronic data on you if you have a passport or used the NHS or have a driving licence. " So why does the Government think it needs more information on us?? | |||
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"The government already hold electronic data on you if you have a passport or used the NHS or have a driving licence. So why does the Government think it needs more information on us??" Er…I don’t know. I wasn’t involved in the decision making process. | |||
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"They can fuck right off as far as I’m concerned and tbh I’d love to see the reaction if they did pass it 😂 our country is already on a knife edge as it is especially with regards to being allowed flying our flag " I should imagine the ID card will have a little flag on it. You could waft it about before you show it to the feds. | |||
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"They can fuck right off as far as I’m concerned and tbh I’d love to see the reaction if they did pass it 😂 our country is already on a knife edge as it is especially with regards to being allowed flying our flag " Scaremongering | |||
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"They can fuck right off as far as I’m concerned and tbh I’d love to see the reaction if they did pass it 😂 our country is already on a knife edge as it is especially with regards to being allowed flying our flag Scaremongering " The irony being that age ID was needed to post on this thread  | |||
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"The government already hold electronic data on you if you have a passport or used the NHS or have a driving licence. So why does the Government think it needs more information on us?? Er…I don’t know. I wasn’t involved in the decision making process. " Maybe you could imagine why they might need it? | |||
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"Great - I can’t see a problem - I’ve nothing to hide " yes, it’s gonna be sneaky people who won’t want this. The bright shining light of government overview will expose them. | |||
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"Great - I can’t see a problem - I’ve nothing to hide " Thats exactly the argument that allows the State to gradually erode personal liberties. | |||
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"Great - I can’t see a problem - I’ve nothing to hide Thats exactly the argument that allows the State to gradually erode personal liberties." Breach the rules in China and they can stop you getting on your train to work. Maybe it's harder to stop a Deliveroo bike | |||
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"They can fuck right off as far as I’m concerned and tbh I’d love to see the reaction if they did pass it 😂 our country is already on a knife edge as it is especially with regards to being allowed flying our flag Scaremongering The irony being that age ID was needed to post on this thread "Slightly different from having to carry ID on you all the time | |||
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"It will be part of every day life just like a cashless society every move you make they'll be watching you x" Like Sting? | |||
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"They can fuck right off as far as I’m concerned and tbh I’d love to see the reaction if they did pass it 😂 our country is already on a knife edge as it is especially with regards to being allowed flying our flag Scaremongering The irony being that age ID was needed to post on this thread
Slightly different from having to carry ID on you all the time "I guess so. I did the AI face thing on here. No physical card. | |||
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"They can fuck right off as far as I’m concerned and tbh I’d love to see the reaction if they did pass it 😂 our country is already on a knife edge as it is especially with regards to being allowed flying our flag Scaremongering The irony being that age ID was needed to post on this thread "I don't remember having to provide age ID | |||
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"They can fuck right off as far as I’m concerned and tbh I’d love to see the reaction if they did pass it 😂 our country is already on a knife edge as it is especially with regards to being allowed flying our flag Scaremongering The irony being that age ID was needed to post on this thread
Slightly different from having to carry ID on you all the time
I guess so. I did the AI face thing on here. No physical card. "I just don’t see why they feel the need to bring this out imo it’s all about control and taken away our freedom. And before anyone mocks me etc etc it’s just my opinion nothing more nothing less | |||
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"They can fuck right off as far as I’m concerned and tbh I’d love to see the reaction if they did pass it 😂 our country is already on a knife edge as it is especially with regards to being allowed flying our flag Scaremongering The irony being that age ID was needed to post on this thread
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I guess so. I did the AI face thing on here. No physical card.
I just don’t see why they feel the need to bring this out imo it’s all about control and taken away our freedom.
And before anyone mocks me etc etc it’s just my opinion nothing more nothing less "No one should mock anyone else's opinion. | |||
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"Britain used to be a 'High Trust' society. Not anymore" A ‘promise to pay’ on money and no passports. | |||
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"No one should mock anyone else's opinion." However as has been said many times, opinions are like arseholes: everybody has one and they all smell the same. | |||
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"I don’t get the conspiracy thoughts. I have a passport, driving licence, nhs number, national insurance number so am a true resident so if you don’t have all of these you have something to hide." you’re right - all this ‘big state’ drivel - it’s already a big state and has been for years. Only crims fear this. They will be found out. | |||
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""Sir Keir Starmer is expected to announce plans for a compulsory UK-wide digital ID scheme in a speech on Friday" BBC Inevitable I guess, but I don't like it. The more tools like this we give a government, the harder it'll be to stop their misuse and get rid of authoritarian ones. Yes, I know we are tracked and mined by commercial companies left right and centre, but that's a different ball game from government access to this data. China already has masses of digital controls over it's citizens"  | |||
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"What if you don't have a phone?" The BBC news said this: …” The practicalities of the scheme will be subject to a consultation, which will also look at how to make it work for those without a smartphone or passport.…” | |||
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"I can see all hell breaking loose on our streets soon if our government continue the way they are going " What way do you perceive they're going, and why should reasonable people be taking to the streets? With regards to Digital ID, all they've announced is that they will be looking at the practicalities under a consultation scheme. | |||
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"I don’t get the conspiracy thoughts. I have a passport, driving licence, nhs number, national insurance number so am a true resident so if you don’t have all of these you have something to hide." | |||
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"I can see all hell breaking loose on our streets soon if our government continue the way they are going What way do you perceive they're going, and why should reasonable people be taking to the streets? With regards to Digital ID, all they've announced is that they will be looking at the practicalities under a consultation scheme." Reasonable people took to the streets just a few weeks ago and it’ll happen again soon I can guarantee that | |||
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"I don’t get the conspiracy thoughts. I have a passport, driving licence, nhs number, national insurance number so am a true resident so if you don’t have all of these you have something to hide. "I do have lots to hide like many others ? Surely you do? | |||
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"I don’t get the conspiracy thoughts. I have a passport, driving licence, nhs number, national insurance number so am a true resident so if you don’t have all of these you have something to hide." Totally agree. If you use a bank card, have a G Mail account or any email account, allow cookies on your device, allow apps to track activity, use WhatsApp / insta / facebook etc - private companies already know everything there is to know about you - and they can sell it. Speaking from experience - most government agencies couldn’t organise a wank in a brothel. So I wouldn’t worry too much or get your knickers in a twist about it. | |||
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"Spot 1 posted: "We already have a national identity. All the government need to do is post a national insurance card out to everyone that is registered for national insurance " So why create a totally new national digital ID database?" Do they not do that now? I still have my NI card tucked away from the mid 1980's | |||
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"I don’t see the problem with this, we already have photo driving licenses, 90% of work places have ID cards, what difference will another one make " You shouldn’t be asking the question “…what difference will another one make”- you should be asking “if I already have so many legitimate forms of ID, why do They need me to have another one?” Already insults are being bandied about- tin hats, conspiracy theorists… Please sign the petition and just think of this logically: the excuse given for the card is to stop illegal immigration and working. We have laws to stop crime and they don’t work, because the clue is in the title: ILLEGAL. If someone doesn’t care about the law, they won’t abide by it. Please sign the petition to stop this madness. It’s a way of corralling the law abiding and ignoring the law breakers. | |||
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"Passports, driving licence, bus pass some have disabled badges, whats the big deal? And if it stops boatloads getting illegal work, whats the problem?" But it won't though, will it. There's already large enough numbers of illegal workers working for dubious bosses who know full well who they're employing and exploiting. That will continue | |||
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"Having an ID digital doesn't bother me as the government knows my voting, passport, driving license, nat insurance and NHS but this scheme will do nothing to stop the boats and illegals. It's a nonsense " 👇👇👇👇 | |||
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"Sie haben Ihre Papiere? 😠" Stasi-Starmer | |||
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"It's about time we had identity cards ...although the revolting Guardian readers will be up in arms ...France has had id cards for ages ! " It’s not an ID card it’s Digital wallet ID card like driving license this going be whole new ball game this have access to your bank account and everything else . | |||
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"They can fuck right off as far as I’m concerned and tbh I’d love to see the reaction if they did pass it 😂 our country is already on a knife edge as it is especially with regards to being allowed flying our flag " Well, its really not is it. | |||
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"It's about time we had identity cards ...although the revolting Guardian readers will be up in arms ...France has had id cards for ages ! It’s not an ID card it’s Digital wallet ID card like driving license this going be whole new ball game this have access to your bank account and everything else . " Is it? Nothings been announced yet so how do you know? | |||
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"What if you don't have a phone?" You'll have a microchip implanted in your body  | |||
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"Spot 1 posted: "We already have a national identity. All the government need to do is post a national insurance card out to everyone that is registered for national insurance " So why create a totally new national digital ID database?" Exactly.The proposed I.D. will do nothing to stop immigration and is a step to digital currency and total state control from this dictatorship favouring Starmer.No other party supports it,and huge proportion of people against.Its not happening.Then there's the ost,chance of hacking, etc. | |||
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"Long overdue. No objection to this. UK need to get with it. It's 2025, not 1940." | |||
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"I can see all hell breaking loose on our streets soon if our government continue the way they are going What way do you perceive they're going, and why should reasonable people be taking to the streets? With regards to Digital ID, all they've announced is that they will be looking at the practicalities under a consultation scheme. Reasonable people took to the streets just a few weeks ago and it’ll happen again soon I can guarantee that " Do you mean the 'reasonable people' who demonstrated against the influx of illegal immigrants, now getting ready to complain when measures are being brought in to help the situation? | |||
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"Used to be very much against this ….civil liberties, state having too much access to personal info etc. However, have read the front page of todays Daily Mail & they appear to be frothing at the mouth to prevent it happening….so I’m now very supportive. TBH the government has all this info anyway so why the outrage of them putting it in one place to make it easier to stop illegal immigrants taking “our jobs”. I smell a rat, so if the Daily Mail , who’s views on immigration are very well known are so much against it, I’m guessing it’s a great idea for the country as a whole ….." It really won't affect illegals getting jobs, as all they need is a crooked company to employ them, often exploiting them as they do currently. Yes, there are fines for employers but it must still be worthwhile as it's still happening | |||
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"Can someone just explain how this stops illegal migrants coming here? They won't have an ID, by definition. So where's the gain?" Showing ID will enable access to public services like benefits or health care. Employers would have to marry up digital ID with employing someone. No ID no access. It won't stop black market entirely, but it will be a deterrent. Many say its why UK is attractive as we don't have ID cards. | |||
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"Can someone just explain how this stops illegal migrants coming here? They won't have an ID, by definition. So where's the gain? Showing ID will enable access to public services like benefits or health care. Employers would have to marry up digital ID with employing someone. No ID no access. It won't stop black market entirely, but it will be a deterrent. Many say its why UK is attractive as we don't have ID cards." We do have similar attempts to control this right now. Employers can be fined tens of thousands for employing people not eligible. I am not sure this helps with those illegals delivering food using the accounts of others? People are pretty inventive when it comes to bypassing checks. This will be much more than just an ID. To make it work will require routine checking and enforcement. | |||
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"Can someone just explain how this stops illegal migrants coming here? They won't have an ID, by definition. So where's the gain?" Seeing how the consultation process hasn't even started, I'm not sure why you're expecting people to answer that just yet. | |||
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"I'm not keen on the expansion of big brother techniques but I worked in Denmark in the summer of 76 and I like everyone else had to carry an ID card, still have it at home as a keep sake. Never caused me any worries. " Yes but that's a card. Not a device that can turn your ability to get around off at the flick if a switch by some jumped up nobody at a desk. | |||
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"I can see all hell breaking loose on our streets soon if our government continue the way they are going What way do you perceive they're going, and why should reasonable people be taking to the streets? With regards to Digital ID, all they've announced is that they will be looking at the practicalities under a consultation scheme. Reasonable people took to the streets just a few weeks ago and it’ll happen again soon I can guarantee that Do you mean the 'reasonable people' who demonstrated against the influx of illegal immigrants, now getting ready to complain when measures are being brought in to help the situation?" The reasonable people who “righty demonstrated” about what is happening to our country?? Yep that’s them 😁 🏴 🇬🇧 | |||
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"Do you trust the government? Will you trust the next government? Are all police officers totally reasonable, at all times, and none have ever abused their authority? " I don't trust any government, anywhere in any country but we have to have a government otherwise anarchy will rule.  | |||
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"I see the petition against digital ID is gaining momentum which tells you everything about what the people really think about it!!!! Let’s hope it keeps going and going then maybe just maybe it will be righty be thrown out of Parliament " The Daily Mail has been stoking their followers up, are GB News and Farage on it yet, even though there are no details of how it may work? | |||
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"Will digital IDs stay limited to identity checks? In China IDs are tied into facial recognition, finance apps, travel ticketing, internet access and more. If the authorities see you as non-conformist can easily be identified when in public, and be denied all these things. So just how certain are you that our cosy liberal democracy will stay so wonderfully benevolent" Function creep. In a nutshell. Spot on. I was involved on a big government data project when Labour were last in. They used data gathered during the project which was outside the specific remit of the system. It's so tempting to do. | |||
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"Great - I can’t see a problem - I’ve nothing to hide Thats exactly the argument that allows the State to gradually erode personal liberties." Agreed. I've nothing to hide but it's my right to hide something if I want to assuming it's legal or doesn't harm anyone. Give them an inch and they will take a mile. The same thing goes with spending cash. Obviously there's benefits to moving away from cash but there's always ways around it and these kind of decisions disproportionately affect different socioeconomic groups. Banks benefit the most and it won't trickle down. I've heard reports recently of banks over here refusing to give out larger sums of cash unless it's stated what it will be used for. I haven't confirmed it's true but it is a bit scary if there's some truth to it, even if it's a measure to protect older people from scams (for example). Australia are banning social media for under 16s which I actually agree with but it's also a slippery slope for rights and access to information. Look at what happened recently in Nepal due to the attempted sensor ship of young people - the future inheritors of this world. | |||
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"Will digital IDs stay limited to identity checks? In China IDs are tied into facial recognition, finance apps, travel ticketing, internet access and more. If the authorities see you as non-conformist can easily be identified when in public, and be denied all these things. So just how certain are you that our cosy liberal democracy will stay so wonderfully benevolent" Exactly this. It's too much temptation. They will use it like this. Government love the power that this will bring. It is their golden ticket. | |||
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"The information about me known to others is because I chose to inform them.....I will not be dictated to " Exactly 👍 | |||
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"I am an English pensioner, veteran of armed conflicts and I know who I am, I do not need nor want an ID card to confirm that to anyone" Well said mate it’s only the snowflakes who agree with it | |||
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"Will digital IDs stay limited to identity checks? In China IDs are tied into facial recognition, finance apps, travel ticketing, internet access and more. If the authorities see you as non-conformist can easily be identified when in public, and be denied all these things. So just how certain are you that our cosy liberal democracy will stay so wonderfully benevolent" Well, so far we do not like in a communist state and I don't think we are likely too. It works well in Norway and I believe some other European countries. I think we have more in common with them than China. It won't come in for about 10 years yet and it has to go through all sorts of challenges yet so not sure why some are getting so wound up. | |||
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"I flatly refuse to comply" You should put it as a disclaimer on your profile. That will tell em! | |||
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"Will digital IDs stay limited to identity checks? In China IDs are tied into facial recognition, finance apps, travel ticketing, internet access and more. If the authorities see you as non-conformist can easily be identified when in public, and be denied all these things. So just how certain are you that our cosy liberal democracy will stay so wonderfully benevolent Well, so far we do not like in a communist state and I don't think we are likely too. It works well in Norway and I believe some other European countries. I think we have more in common with them than China. It won't come in for about 10 years yet and it has to go through all sorts of challenges yet so not sure why some are getting so wound up. " When we have all sorts of ID (passports, driving licences) why do they need ID cards? We seem to manage ok as it is. | |||
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"I love this, countless threads going on about how awful everything in the country is and how it’s absolutely dreadful the government aren’t acting. Then they act Suddenly everything was fine without this new idea, why do we need change? Wonderful to see. 🤣" the Country is in a state, with a useless Government which is now saying it needs more personal on its citizens. Its right to complain about the state of the Country and also yet another 'change' | |||
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"I flatly refuse to comply" You don't know the details yet. How do you plan on refusing to comply if the ID is issued using information already tied to your NI/NHS numbers? | |||
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"I flatly refuse to comply You should put it as a disclaimer on your profile. That will tell em!" We know there'll be people who actually do that, forgetting they've already complied with age verification. | |||
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"No different to many other civilised nations. " North Korea and China being two extreme examples. This is the rubber stamp of a digital Identity that allows the state to track you on any street or shop with a camera. It is up to you to prove it's wrong ( remember horizon scandal? Remember digital fingerprint , teaching problems , which saw people's lives destroyed?) And the real kicker is, it provides practically zero benefit but will cost billions to install and billions in maintenance contracts to offshore companies. This is a gravy train we don't need and can't afford. | |||
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"I love this, countless threads going on about how awful everything in the country is and how it’s absolutely dreadful the government aren’t acting. Then they act Suddenly everything was fine without this new idea, why do we need change? Wonderful to see. 🤣" But Liebours actions in bringing in a "card" electronic or otherwise, won't touch the problem of illegals. If they can already get work now with unscrupulous employers an ID card won't make any difference. I can already show I'm entitled to be here with any number of documents and records of employment linked to my NI number from day 1 of working, so why do I need anything else? | |||
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"As mentioned above Govt and many Companies already have huge amounts of data on us and I would Love to believe the “If you’ve done nothing wrong, you’ve got nothing to fear” mantra, but I wonder how the Post Office victims feel about that….? It will cost £Billions. This lot have taken the £22Bn black hole lie (it was £9Bn !) and turned it into £40Bn !! But they can find money for this ?" The post office scandal is a non sequitur argument. It’s definitely the case that the government’s of the past have cocked up, and it’s absolutely true to assume future ones will too, but that isn’t an argument for not trying to do things better. | |||
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"I love this, countless threads going on about how awful everything in the country is and how it’s absolutely dreadful the government aren’t acting. Then they act Suddenly everything was fine without this new idea, why do we need change? Wonderful to see. 🤣 But Liebours actions in bringing in a "card" electronic or otherwise, won't touch the problem of illegals. If they can already get work now with unscrupulous employers an ID card won't make any difference. I can already show I'm entitled to be here with any number of documents and records of employment linked to my NI number from day 1 of working, so why do I need anything else?" How do you know? | |||
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"I love this, countless threads going on about how awful everything in the country is and how it’s absolutely dreadful the government aren’t acting. Then they act Suddenly everything was fine without this new idea, why do we need change? Wonderful to see. 🤣 But Liebours actions in bringing in a "card" electronic or otherwise, won't touch the problem of illegals. If they can already get work now with unscrupulous employers an ID card won't make any difference. I can already show I'm entitled to be here with any number of documents and records of employment linked to my NI number from day 1 of working, so why do I need anything else? How do you know? " Starmer said it himself "you will not be able to work in the UK without an electronic ID card" . If they cancel your ID card for any reason, you wont be able to earn a living. Total control. Fascism or Communism take your pick. | |||
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"Great - I can’t see a problem - I’ve nothing to hide Have you got curtains in your living room?" I was thinking exactly the same. | |||
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"I love this, countless threads going on about how awful everything in the country is and how it’s absolutely dreadful the government aren’t acting. Then they act Suddenly everything was fine without this new idea, why do we need change? Wonderful to see. 🤣 But Liebours actions in bringing in a "card" electronic or otherwise, won't touch the problem of illegals. If they can already get work now with unscrupulous employers an ID card won't make any difference. I can already show I'm entitled to be here with any number of documents and records of employment linked to my NI number from day 1 of working, so why do I need anything else? How do you know? Starmer said it himself "you will not be able to work in the UK without an electronic ID card" . If they cancel your ID card for any reason, you wont be able to earn a living. Total control. Fascism or Communism take your pick." Impact not only your ability to work but also your ability to access your bank account, pay your bills, buy food.  | |||
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"We already have a digital ID.. it's called an NI number.. There you go.. that'll send the boats back. The difference with digital ID they want is a whole raft of containment measures.. " Boats .. raft .. ...I see what you did there. | |||
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"As ID cards were not mentioned at all 1 week ago.. . I suspect a Prime Minister's advisor suggested last weekend, "we need a red herring to stop the media focusing on uncontrolled immigration and the Labour leader challenge..er..er..oh I know..id cards..". "Before Sundays labour conference, I should have added | |||
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"I see the petition against digital ID is gaining momentum which tells you everything about what the people really think about it!!!! Let’s hope it keeps going and going then maybe just maybe it will be righty be thrown out of Parliament The Daily Mail has been stoking their followers up, are GB News and Farage on it yet, even though there are no details of how it may work?" The same way as his last idea I shouldn’t wonder ( smash the gangs ) yer right | |||
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""Today I am announcing this government will make a new, free of charge digital ID mandatory for the right to work by the end of this parliament. Let me spell that out. You will not be able to work in the United Kingdom if you do not have digital ID. It’s as simple as that." said Kier Starmer today. This is a stick, rather than a carrot to force people to have the digital ID. This is nothing to do with stopping immigrants from working. They already 'cannot work' without a relevant visa. So this is just aimed at us people who are legally working - a threat to lose our jobs if we don't have his new ID card " I wonder what the impact would be on the self-employed?  | |||
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"If the flag shaggers hadn't shagged their flags quite so hard over illegal immigration, the government wouldn't have been panicked into trying to do something about it. " I don't think this trying to do something about it. I think the govt has allowed the subject to reach fever pitch so that they can use it to gain acceptance for what has previously been an unpopular political move | |||
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"A minor inconvenience to organised crime gangs." The government thought age verification would stop kids accessing harmful content on the internet. They clearly don't think enough. | |||
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"Has to be done sooner rather than later " Why?!? What possible benefits is there from having your passport photo Id liked to more accurate bio id, and given to third party to sell scanning services? | |||
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""Today I am announcing this government will make a new, free of charge digital ID mandatory for the right to work by the end of this parliament. Let me spell that out. You will not be able to work in the United Kingdom if you do not have digital ID. It’s as simple as that." said Kier Starmer today. So does it also mean you will not have access to the many state benefits handed out? I mean no ID lose your job, obtain benefits to live on as the Government has sacked you!! " | |||
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"Has to be done sooner rather than later Why?!? What possible benefits is there from having your passport photo Id liked to more accurate bio id, and given to third party to sell scanning services? " I don't have a passport or driving licence but I have had cleaner's from Colombia working in my offices who arrived on student visa, getting forged documents and bringing their families here to settle down as uk citizens | |||
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"I'm not in favour of it. The data could be hacked." The Chinese might empty your bank ffs | |||
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"More than likely the present Government will empty your bank account" Keep taking it is whatever you're on ffs | |||
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"Has to be done sooner rather than later Why?!? What possible benefits is there from having your passport photo Id liked to more accurate bio id, and given to third party to sell scanning services? I don't have a passport or driving licence but I have had cleaner's from Colombia working in my offices who arrived on student visa, getting forged documents and bringing their families here to settle down as uk citizens " And biometric id , (and the level of facial tracking it enables), will stop this, how? All compulsory I'd will do is mean that cops can I'd you as you pass every camera (up to you to prove they got it wrong) , and the supermarkets can decide which vouchers to send you based on what your looking at on the shelves. There is zero value add here for the average citizen of Britain. But billions in costs. Hence the lobby to ensure it's enforced. | |||
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"It will be part of every day life just like a cashless society every move you make they'll be watching you x" A Police State. We will be reduced to sending messages in bottles. | |||
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" We will not be controlled!!!!" How well did that work out with the Online Safety Act? | |||
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"My neighbour David had his ID nicked....now he's just called "Dav" "Haha
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"Has to be done sooner rather than later " No it doesn’t, it’s another way to excercise control! I’ve a uk birth cert, passport, driving licence, national ins no & nhs no! Why do I now need this? because the government hasn’t got a clue how to handle immigration. Here’s a better idea. Get the navy & army to patrol the channel. Would make it more of a deterrent! | |||
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"Has to be done sooner rather than later No it doesn’t, it’s another way to excercise control! I’ve a uk birth cert, passport, driving licence, national ins no & nhs no! Why do I now need this? because the government hasn’t got a clue how to handle immigration. Here’s a better idea. Get the navy & army to patrol the channel. Would make it more of a deterrent! " Well said 👏 | |||
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"Sign the UK Gov petition if you oppose .. email your local MP , write to national and local press. This could be Labours “ poll tax” " And we all know what happened then… Seriously it boils my piss the way Starmer is trying his upmost to control us he’s going to cause himself major trouble soon if he isn’t careful as the majority of people are really starting to get pissed off and rightly so | |||
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"Has to be done sooner rather than later No it doesn’t, it’s another way to excercise control! I’ve a uk birth cert, passport, driving licence, national ins no & nhs no! Why do I now need this? because the government hasn’t got a clue how to handle immigration. Here’s a better idea. Get the navy & army to patrol the channel. Would make it more of a deterrent! " Both Labour and the Conservatives looked into that but found it impossible to implement due to international marine law and the feelings of the navy themselves. If you think farage will do this you are wrong. He has no idea what to do either, but he won't tell you that. | |||
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"Sign the UK Gov petition if you oppose .. email your local MP , write to national and local press. This could be Labours “ poll tax” And we all know what happened then… Seriously it boils my piss the way Starmer is trying his upmost to control us he’s going to cause himself major trouble soon if he isn’t careful as the majority of people are really starting to get pissed off and rightly so " Couldn't agree more. It's the way he talks down to the public. Where is common sense, what about that thing called national insurance number. | |||
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"Sign the UK Gov petition if you oppose .. email your local MP , write to national and local press. This could be Labours “ poll tax” And we all know what happened then… Seriously it boils my piss the way Starmer is trying his upmost to control us he’s going to cause himself major trouble soon if he isn’t careful as the majority of people are really starting to get pissed off and rightly so Couldn't agree more. It's the way he talks down to the public. Where is common sense, what about that thing called national insurance number." Yep he’s suppose to represent the Working Class yet continues to piss on us more and more 😡 He’s just a posh tory boy who claims to be one of us he even supports Arsenal which says absolutely everything about the man but I’ll not poke the hornets nest too much 😂 | |||
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"I've retired, have no intention of ever working again. Do I need it." Why don’t you wait to find out from the actual source instead of asking in a place which has no more info than you? | |||
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"Tony Blair ( b liar) suggested digital id cards when he was prime minister . He’s still lurking under stuck farmers shadow . It wouldn’t surprise if he’s pulling strings to get pushed through " Thank goodness you supplied the bracketed bit, your point would have had no weight without it. | |||
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"Sign the UK Gov petition if you oppose .. email your local MP , write to national and local press. This could be Labours “ poll tax” And we all know what happened then… Seriously it boils my piss the way Starmer is trying his upmost to control us he’s going to cause himself major trouble soon if he isn’t careful as the majority of people are really starting to get pissed off and rightly so Couldn't agree more. It's the way he talks down to the public. Where is common sense, what about that thing called national insurance number." This might be why he is talking down to you. You fundamentally don’t understand | |||
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"They can fuck right off as far as I’m concerned and tbh I’d love to see the reaction if they did pass it 😂 our country is already on a knife edge as it is especially with regards to being allowed flying our flag " On a knife edge? 90% of the country is standing by with popcorn watching a minority get themselves all worked up and then burn themselves out before they get a chance to do anything other than demonstrate how out of step they are with everyone around them. | |||
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"1) Do absolutely nothing to address the cause, gaslight the public and take them for fools. 2) Tell the public that the only way to deal with it is to introduce Digital ID. Job done" Had any of that been true, you would have a point. The problem is none of what you wrote is true. | |||
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