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"What can you even say at this point? For some reason we allow our elected leaders to behave in ways we scold children for. Don't lie. Don't treat others badly. Don't steal. Unless you're a silver tongued propagandist, then you have my vote. It breaks my heart seeing Britain sleepwalk into disaster yet again." Like we did in the last general election? | |||
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"In the same way the Tories are responsible for clearing the way for the most useless government of modern times, so it is the Labour Party responsible for proving it up. Probably best Starmer calls a quick election to spike Farage's guns and to clear the air within the beleaguered Labour party" Starmer would never call a quick election because he knows fine well he would be trounced by Reform 😁 He will go down in history as the worse PM ever the man is so out of touch it’s frightening For the Working class 🤔 aye rights he is 😡 | |||
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"What can you even say at this point? For some reason we allow our elected leaders to behave in ways we scold children for. Don't lie. Don't treat others badly. Don't steal. Unless you're a silver tongued propagandist, then you have my vote. It breaks my heart seeing Britain sleepwalk into disaster yet again." Exactly this. | |||
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"In the same way the Tories are responsible for clearing the way for the most useless government of modern times, so it is the Labour Party responsible for proving it up. Probably best Starmer calls a quick election to spike Farage's guns and to clear the air within the beleaguered Labour party Starmer would never call a quick election because he knows fine well he would be trounced by Reform 😁 He will go down in history as the worse PM ever the man is so out of touch it’s frightening For the Working class 🤔 aye rights he is 😡 " Surely Liz Truss was the worst | |||
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"In the same way the Tories are responsible for clearing the way for the most useless government of modern times, so it is the Labour Party responsible for proving it up. Probably best Starmer calls a quick election to spike Farage's guns and to clear the air within the beleaguered Labour party Starmer would never call a quick election because he knows fine well he would be trounced by Reform 😁 He will go down in history as the worse PM ever the man is so out of touch it’s frightening For the Working class 🤔 aye rights he is 😡 Surely Liz Truss was the worst" Only for the banks. Her policies were actually pretty good for working people. | |||
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"In the same way the Tories are responsible for clearing the way for the most useless government of modern times, so it is the Labour Party responsible for proving it up. Probably best Starmer calls a quick election to spike Farage's guns and to clear the air within the beleaguered Labour party Starmer would never call a quick election because he knows fine well he would be trounced by Reform 😁 He will go down in history as the worse PM ever the man is so out of touch it’s frightening For the Working class 🤔 aye rights he is 😡 Surely Liz Truss was the worst" Was!!!! Mind Blair was a definitely up there but Starmer is on another level the guy is a grade 1 P*%#k | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. " I think you have to be several layers of dense to vote for him and his ilk. Sadly, there are plenty of slow witted people in this country who will vote for him. Hence Brexit. | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. " I'm not a fan of Nigel Farage, but his quote:— “When it comes to science, I don’t side with anybody because science is never settled”— Actually makes logical sense! Science changes with new discoveries, so it’s not always "settled." The problem is some people have twisted this quote to criticise him to suit their own agenda as so often happens in politics! Perhaps we should stick to the facts instead of letting people spin things! | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. I think you have to be several layers of dense to vote for him and his ilk. Sadly, there are plenty of slow witted people in this country who will vote for him. Hence Brexit." So the overwhelming majority are slow witted? | |||
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" Surely Liz Truss was the worst Only for the banks. Her policies were actually pretty good for working people. " This is so true. We seem to not understand modern monitory theory and take market reaction as indicator of effectiveness of govt policies. Not one who says Liz trusses budget was bad can prove why. Its because the city of london feels that they won't be willing to give loans to govt that the policies are deemed unfit. | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. I think you have to be several layers of dense to vote for him and his ilk. Sadly, there are plenty of slow witted people in this country who will vote for him. Hence Brexit. So the overwhelming majority are slow witted?" Overwhelming is not the right word to use, but yes | |||
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"In the same way the Tories are responsible for clearing the way for the most useless government of modern times, so it is the Labour Party responsible for proving it up. Probably best Starmer calls a quick election to spike Farage's guns and to clear the air within the beleaguered Labour party Starmer would never call a quick election because he knows fine well he would be trounced by Reform 😁 He will go down in history as the worse PM ever the man is so out of touch it’s frightening For the Working class 🤔 aye rights he is 😡 Surely Liz Truss was the worst Only for the banks. Her policies were actually pretty good for working people. " Oh really? Tell that to my pension funds will you, her incompetence lost me thousands. | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. I think you have to be several layers of dense to vote for him and his ilk. Sadly, there are plenty of slow witted people in this country who will vote for him. Hence Brexit. So the overwhelming majority are slow witted?" Rest assured, only in the Gospel according to St Deluded!! 😆 | |||
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"Just who is his pimp? Is it Murdoch, Putin, Banks, Marshall? Follow the money. " Post ukip where hedgfunds and banks funded him he went to states looking for deals with trump. Peter thiel had him at arms length and sent him home to re-engage in UK politics. Then an oil lobby firm inflated the reform coffers and he's had a range of work since then, often with fossil fuel backing. If trump isn't paying him somehow I'd be surprised but then I'm told most UK politicians come comparatively cheaply. They have diverse business interests so there are often easy ways to align profits. | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. " He will be the next PM, sheer weight of numbers at the ballot box will do it. People have lost faith in the usual sef serving traditional duo; thus giving oxygen for Reform to succeed. Sharia law is already operating within the Moslim communities... once/if they become a majority it will be fate accomplae for the rest of us! It's democracy don't ya know!  | |||
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" … I think you have to be several layers of dense to vote for him and his ilk. Sadly, there are plenty of slow witted people in this country who will vote for him. Hence Brexit..." I love posts like this. Because sneering and condescending and calling everyone a thicko just because they don’t see things your way has been a sure-fire election winner for some time now. Just ask Presidents John Kerry, Hilary Clinton and Kamala Harris, plus Prime Ministers Ed Miliband and Jeremy Corbyn. Mr Farage asks me to encourage you to keep up posts like this on all sites and social platforms you use. It saves him needing to do any campaigning whatsoever! | |||
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"Reform getting my vote " You and many others will be doing exactly the same as the people are starting to wake up and make their voices heard!!! | |||
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"In the same way the Tories are responsible for clearing the way for the most useless government of modern times, so it is the Labour Party responsible for proving it up. Probably best Starmer calls a quick election to spike Farage's guns and to clear the air within the beleaguered Labour party Starmer would never call a quick election because he knows fine well he would be trounced by Reform 😁 He will go down in history as the worse PM ever the man is so out of touch it’s frightening For the Working class 🤔 aye rights he is 😡 Surely Liz Truss was the worst Only for the banks. Her policies were actually pretty good for working people. " She made mortgages and rents almost double. How is that good for working people? | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. I'm not a fan of Nigel Farage, but his quote:— “When it comes to science, I don’t side with anybody because science is never settled”— Actually makes logical sense! Science changes with new discoveries, so it’s not always "settled." The problem is some people have twisted this quote to criticise him to suit their own agenda as so often happens in politics! Perhaps we should stick to the facts instead of letting people spin things! " He only actually said it so he didn't have to disagree with Trump. It very much reminded me of Gove during brexit saying We've had enough of experts. Its used so that you can give your own version of truth. | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. I think you have to be several layers of dense to vote for him and his ilk. Sadly, there are plenty of slow witted people in this country who will vote for him. Hence Brexit." You are so right... but please tell, who else is there! People in the UK are desperate for a proper politician and are clutching at straw now... and straw men!  | |||
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"In the same way the Tories are responsible for clearing the way for the most useless government of modern times, so it is the Labour Party responsible for proving it up. Probably best Starmer calls a quick election to spike Farage's guns and to clear the air within the beleaguered Labour party Starmer would never call a quick election because he knows fine well he would be trounced by Reform 😁 He will go down in history as the worse PM ever the man is so out of touch it’s frightening For the Working class 🤔 aye rights he is 😡 Surely Liz Truss was the worst Only for the banks. Her policies were actually pretty good for working people. She made mortgages and rents almost double. How is that good for working people?" It will take a brave politician, but a progressive cap that takes corporate speculative investment out of the domestic housing market , is the only way we are avoiding a rentier economy with old folk routinely living in poverty. | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. I think you have to be several layers of dense to vote for him and his ilk. Sadly, there are plenty of slow witted people in this country who will vote for him. Hence Brexit. So the overwhelming majority are slow witted?" Absolutely... that's why people vote for one or two word meaningless political slogans! We are fected! | |||
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"What this country needs is a tough talking no nonsense leader who will stand up for the people and put our country first. A leader who will stand up for the Working Class “the very people who keep the country running” will stand up for the North especially the North East which for as long as I care to remember has been left behind and forgotten while the South particularly London has always been top of the list for investment etc etc despite the fact the North East was once the heartbeat of the country with regards to industry like ship building coal mines and steel works. A Northern born Leader from a proper hard working class background who will back the hard working people and back the North would be the perfect candidate imo. " Will never happen, politics is now about personal enrichment and no longer about bettering the people they represent | |||
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"What this country needs is a tough talking no nonsense leader who will stand up for the people and put our country first A Northern born Leader from a proper hard working class background who will back the hard working people and back the North would be the perfect candidate imo. " Yep one with a big cock preferably. You know of any ? | |||
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"What this country needs is a tough talking no nonsense leader who will stand up for the people and put our country first A Northern born Leader from a proper hard working class background who will back the hard working people and back the North would be the perfect candidate imo. Yep one with a big cock preferably. You know of any ?" Unfortunately not 😂 | |||
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" … I think you have to be several layers of dense to vote for him and his ilk. Sadly, there are plenty of slow witted people in this country who will vote for him. Hence Brexit... I love posts like this. Because sneering and condescending and calling everyone a thicko just because they don’t see things your way has been a sure-fire election winner for some time now. Just ask Presidents John Kerry, Hilary Clinton and Kamala Harris, plus Prime Ministers Ed Miliband and Jeremy Corbyn. Mr Farage asks me to encourage you to keep up posts like this on all sites and social platforms you use. It saves him needing to do any campaigning whatsoever!" They are literally on every social media site and on the telly all the time. Would you rather no one questioned them? | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. I'm not a fan of Nigel Farage, but his quote:— “When it comes to science, I don’t side with anybody because science is never settled”— Actually makes logical sense! Science changes with new discoveries, so it’s not always "settled." The problem is some people have twisted this quote to criticise him to suit their own agenda as so often happens in politics! Perhaps we should stick to the facts instead of letting people spin things! At his conference he platformed a guy they have used for health guidelines who thinks the royal family have cancer from their covid jabs. Is that the science reform will follow? " | |||
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"Farage would only be at the helm for a short time. The current troubles we face will bring his downfall too. They will have a replacement lined up in the wings. It's like in the US where JD Vance is being primed." But who though? Farage has turned Reform into a one-man-ban. He did the same with UKIP which quickly disintegrated when he walked out. Dicey Ticey may have more credibility but lacks popularity and is seen too much as Farage's lap-dog. Lee Anderson is a bit of a joke although he may appeal to many. They've ditched Rupert Lowe the only credible MP elected on the Reform ticket. The main point remains that however much we may speculate there isn't likely to be a general election before May 2029 at the earliest. A lot could happen between now and then. They say a week is a long time in politics so 4 years is surely an eon. The Reform bubble may yet burst. Farage might trip over his gigantic ego. Who knows? | |||
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"Farage & Reform UK, leading in every single poll 🇬🇧 🩵 Just sayin 🤷🏻♀️" Yep which tells you everything 😁 | |||
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"Farage & Reform UK, leading in every single poll 🇬🇧 🩵 Just sayin 🤷🏻♀️ Yep which tells you everything 😁" What does it tell you exactly? | |||
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"Farage can just sit and watch and snipe from the sidelines. Rachel Reeve's budget will piss off enough people, that they will turn to any alternative they can find. " Maybe you can waste your vote on the Lib Dems, or worse still, the Greens | |||
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"Farage & Reform UK, leading in every single poll 🇬🇧 🩵 Just sayin 🤷🏻♀️ Yep which tells you everything 😁" I've seen loads of opinion polls and speculation maps. No one knows for definite until the election has been held and the votes counted. The figures Reform are getting in these opinion polls are not actually enough to give them an overall majority with our archaic FPTP electoral system that still favours Labour. Chances are if an election was held next week it would result in a hung parliament. | |||
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" And people trust this man to be pm. " When was this man ever PM. I don't think he has ever been elected as yet. | |||
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"Farage can just sit and watch and snipe from the sidelines. Rachel Reeve's budget will piss off enough people, that they will turn to any alternative they can find. Maybe you can waste your vote on the Lib Dems, or worse still, the Greens " Greens? Bunch of deluded fuckers. Lib Dems are idiots. Reform all the way  | |||
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"Just who is his pimp? Is it Murdoch, Putin, Banks, Marshall? Follow the money. " Indeed, but that logic is a tad too intelligent for some of the Deform nutters on here. So much to say about Fartage but here probably isn’t the right place | |||
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"Just who is his pimp? Is it Murdoch, Putin, Banks, Marshall? Follow the money. Indeed, but that logic is a tad too intelligent for some of the Deform nutters on here. So much to say about Fartage but here probably isn’t the right place " And you think name calling makes you sound intelligent. | |||
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" And people trust this man to be pm. When was this man ever PM. I don't think he has ever been elected as yet." He's being reported everywhere to be the most likely next pm. | |||
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"Farage & Reform UK, leading in every single poll 🇬🇧 🩵 Just sayin 🤷🏻♀️ Yep which tells you everything 😁" Sadly it tells me a lot yes. | |||
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"Farage & Reform UK, leading in every single poll 🇬🇧 🩵 Just sayin 🤷🏻♀️ Yep which tells you everything 😁 Sadly it tells me a lot yes." Like it or not but Starmer is pushing our country more towards Reform he’s the only one to blame for it | |||
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" … I think you have to be several layers of dense to vote for him and his ilk. Sadly, there are plenty of slow witted people in this country who will vote for him. Hence Brexit... I love posts like this. Because sneering and condescending and calling everyone a thicko just because they don’t see things your way has been a sure-fire election winner for some time now. Just ask Presidents John Kerry, Hilary Clinton and Kamala Harris, plus Prime Ministers Ed Miliband and Jeremy Corbyn. Mr Farage asks me to encourage you to keep up posts like this on all sites and social platforms you use. It saves him needing to do any campaigning whatsoever! They are literally on every social media site and on the telly all the time. Would you rather no one questioned them? " You seem to have missed the point completely and entirely. 🙄 | |||
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"Indeed, but that logic is a tad too intelligent for some of the Deform nutters on here. So much to say about Fartage but here probably isn’t the right place " This one post says everything you need to know about modern political discourse. Don’t like someone, or their opinion (that’s if you even know what their policies or opinions are) then instead of making a simple statement that point out what you believe they have got wrong, just try to belittle them with name calling. This is what can end up with an escalating back and forth, and occasionally ends in a violent attack on someone that is deemed to have ‘controversial’ opinions, or that is simply trying to do the best they can. It needs to stop. It won’t stop, but it needs to. | |||
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"Whats political stuff got to do with a sex site? Every politician we've had have lied to us and cheated us out of our taxes.i feel sorry for the guys who gave there lives for us in ww2 just to be spat on by the lieing,cheating, spineless wet wipes we call the government. " Where is your evidence that this Government have all gone (mostly) abroad and spat on the graves of the dead soldiers of the Second World War? | |||
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"Whats political stuff got to do with a sex site? Every politician we've had have lied to us and cheated us out of our taxes.i feel sorry for the guys who gave there lives for us in ww2 just to be spat on by the lieing,cheating, spineless wet wipes we call the government. " Wasn't the repayment of the sacrifice of two world wars the construction of a country fit for heros? Now I could easily rip the assumptions and lies in that sentence apart, but let's say we take it at face value? Which party or politician, available to us now, Has actively committed to ensuring the legacy they ensured is protected? Who says welfare state is essential? Who says employment rights need to be protected? Who has a plan to provide housing for all not just the rich? Who wants to protect the NHS and make sure it's not sold off to American corporations? Wants our water, trains, government services, power nationalised and run for national benefit and not profit? Not .... Many....comming to mind? It's pretty basic | |||
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"Nigel will work miracles! Just wait and watch!." 👎👎👎 | |||
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"Nigel will work miracles! Just wait and watch!." For his own bank balance. | |||
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"Nigel will work miracles! Just wait and watch!." If you believe that he will do anything for anybody but himself then you are really in for a big shock I'm certain. He does not care about you. | |||
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"People have had enough which is why Farage is so popular Reform are without doubt gaining momentum in this country " They may be, but it doesn’t mean that it is a good thing. The hate being stirred up by him is very concerning, reports in today that a 64 year old man has been arrested for setting fire to a hotel with asylum seekers in it (Barbican in London). | |||
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"All our previous leaders have lied, cheated us, r0bbed us, for their own benefit and certainly not for the country's. However I feel that Farage is something fresh and different. The Sooner our current wanker is done and dusted the better. " Fresh and different??? He is a fucking merchant banker! He was the one doing the robbing and stealing, now he wants power to continue it. Please tell me you aren’t so gullible to believe he is on your side?? | |||
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"Just who is his pimp? Is it Murdoch, Putin, Banks, Marshall? Follow the money. Indeed, but that logic is a tad too intelligent for some of the Deform nutters on here. So much to say about Fartage but here probably isn’t the right place And you think name calling makes you sound intelligent." Well said | |||
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"Just who is his pimp? Is it Murdoch, Putin, Banks, Marshall? Follow the money. Indeed, but that logic is a tad too intelligent for some of the Deform nutters on here. So much to say about Fartage but here probably isn’t the right place And you think name calling makes you sound intelligent. Well said "True because the hero Farage never does it! 🤣🤣 PMSL Acolytes have very selective memories | |||
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"Nigel will work miracles! Just wait and watch!. If you believe that he will do anything for anybody but himself then you are really in for a big shock I'm certain. He does not care about you." If you believe any politician will do anything for anybody but themselves you are in for a shock. They don't care about you. | |||
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"Nigel will work miracles! Just wait and watch!." Nigel will probably do bugger all. He's all talk and no do. One of the laziest MEPs and little better as an MP. He's a campaigner, an influencer, rather than a working politician. | |||
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"All our previous leaders have lied, cheated us, r0bbed us, for their own benefit and certainly not for the country's. However I feel that Farage is something fresh and different. The Sooner our current wanker is done and dusted the better. " Which part of his repeatedly extracting money from people to enrich the business he owns 51% of makes you think he isn't in it for his own benefit? | |||
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"All our previous leaders have lied, cheated us, r0bbed us, for their own benefit and certainly not for the country's. However I feel that Farage is something fresh and different. The Sooner our current wanker is done and dusted the better. Fresh and different??? He is a fucking merchant banker! He was the one doing the robbing and stealing, now he wants power to continue it. Please tell me you aren’t so gullible to believe he is on your side??" I don't believe that any of them are on the side of the population | |||
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"Just who is his pimp? Is it Murdoch, Putin, Banks, Marshall? Follow the money. Indeed, but that logic is a tad too intelligent for some of the Deform nutters on here. So much to say about Fartage but here probably isn’t the right place And you think name calling makes you sound intelligent. Well said
True because the hero Farage never does it! 🤣🤣
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Acolytes have very selective memories "Do you remember when you wrote so much in that long, and very sneery, thread all about Reformbot2000s or whatever you wanted to call them..? All terribly condescending and referring to those who expressed any resistance to your anti-Farage crusade as if they were mindless computer programs… I did try to point out to you then that you were gravely misjudging a lot of people and having the exact opposite effect to the one you wanted… but you gave me very short shrift because, well, basically because you’re a know-it-all. Now anyone who expresses any interest or support for Farage is an “acolyte”. You carry on. Pouring fuel on the fire you claim you want to put out. | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. I think you have to be several layers of dense to vote for him and his ilk. Sadly, there are plenty of slow witted people in this country who will vote for him. Hence Brexit." | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. " Lol. When our current Chancellor said she would not take away fuel relief for the retired and she lied about her job experience. Would your trust her? Totally laughable. The front on some people. | |||
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"In the same way the Tories are responsible for clearing the way for the most useless government of modern times, so it is the Labour Party responsible for proving it up. Probably best Starmer calls a quick election to spike Farage's guns and to clear the air within the beleaguered Labour party" Everybody goes on about 14 years of the Tories. How many elections did the Tories win in 14 years? Four? And then there was Brexit and then Covid. Granted the Tories lost the plot and fucked themselves completely. Labour had 14 years to prepare and when they got in,proceeded to totally lose Public Confidence within 14 months and they continue to do so. Farage and Reform hopefully look at the approx 4 years they have to prepare for the next Election so they better make use of that time. There's an awful lot of mud slinging to come. Labour in the meantime prove they have never been the answer. Borrow, Tax and borrow again. Just an opinion. | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. " It appears that the utter fukwit community of this country, which apparently has significant numbers on this website, do indeed believe every single word this nasty cnut utters, despite all the evidence to the contrary. God help us all.  | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. It appears that the utter fukwit community of this country, which apparently has significant numbers on this website, do indeed believe every single word this nasty cnut utters, despite all the evidence to the contrary. God help us all. "So your solution is??? Carry on with Labour? We as a nation cannot go in like this until Labour are kicked out in probably 4 years. | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. It appears that the utter fukwit community of this country, which apparently has significant numbers on this website, do indeed believe every single word this nasty cnut utters, despite all the evidence to the contrary. God help us all.
So your solution is??? Carry on with Labour? We as a nation cannot go in like this until Labour are kicked out in probably 4 years. "Well the way I look at it, it didn’t matter who got in at the last election. The mess that the Tory’s left was never going to be fixed in one parliament, and because of the state of the countries finances, things were probably going to get worse before they got better. Add to that all the money that is having to be spent on policing all the protests, people are not doing themselves or the country any favours. Labour are (if you look deeper than a lot of the media who have their own agenda want you to know) making some progress, but it is slow, which with limited resources is all we can expect at this stage. Even if the Tory’s had won it wouldn’t be any better, and if you think that Farage would make things better, you really need help with your mental health (that is the polite version). | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. It appears that the utter fukwit community of this country, which apparently has significant numbers on this website, do indeed believe every single word this nasty cnut utters, despite all the evidence to the contrary. God help us all.
So your solution is??? Carry on with Labour? We as a nation cannot go in like this until Labour are kicked out in probably 4 years. "Yes, its called democracy. Do you not like that idea. Like it or not Labour have made stronger ties to our European partners for our defence against russia (what would farage do?). Introduced free breakfast clubs for all children so they start the day well. Manages to negotiate with Trump and maybe due to the kings work get Trump to change his tactics in Ukraine and gaza. What ideas does garage have for these wars? | |||
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"The hard left are scared of Nigel Farage" So are the Conservative party, who are looking increasingly irrelevant, and the rank and file Labour MPs who are scared shitless of losing their seats to Reform in a few years time. | |||
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"The hard left are scared of Nigel Farage" Who are the hard left? | |||
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"… if you think that Farage would make things better, you really need help with your mental health (that is the polite version)... " Again and again and again and again and again and again. How successful is the “you’re all retards!” strategy working out for you…? Just asking for a friend. Perhaps if you shout it EVEN LOUDER, it will suddenly be twice as successful… | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. It appears that the utter fukwit community of this country, which apparently has significant numbers on this website, do indeed believe every single word this nasty cnut utters, despite all the evidence to the contrary. God help us all.
So your solution is??? Carry on with Labour? We as a nation cannot go in like this until Labour are kicked out in probably 4 years.
Well the way I look at it, it didn’t matter who got in at the last election. The mess that the Tory’s left was never going to be fixed in one parliament, and because of the state of the countries finances, things were probably going to get worse before they got better. Add to that all the money that is having to be spent on policing all the protests, people are not doing themselves or the country any favours. Labour are (if you look deeper than a lot of the media who have their own agenda want you to know) making some progress, but it is slow, which with limited resources is all we can expect at this stage. Even if the Tory’s had won it wouldn’t be any better, and if you think that Farage would make things better, you really need help with your mental health (that is the polite version). "Need help with my mental health you cheeky fucker. When i watch,see and hear how the indigenous British population is being deliberately eroded by cunts like Starmer i get angry. If Farage changes one thing this wretched weak appeaser currently in No.10 has done/doing to my country then it will be worth it. | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. It appears that the utter fukwit community of this country, which apparently has significant numbers on this website, do indeed believe every single word this nasty cnut utters, despite all the evidence to the contrary. God help us all.
So your solution is??? Carry on with Labour? We as a nation cannot go in like this until Labour are kicked out in probably 4 years.
Well the way I look at it, it didn’t matter who got in at the last election. The mess that the Tory’s left was never going to be fixed in one parliament, and because of the state of the countries finances, things were probably going to get worse before they got better. Add to that all the money that is having to be spent on policing all the protests, people are not doing themselves or the country any favours. Labour are (if you look deeper than a lot of the media who have their own agenda want you to know) making some progress, but it is slow, which with limited resources is all we can expect at this stage. Even if the Tory’s had won it wouldn’t be any better, and if you think that Farage would make things better, you really need help with your mental health (that is the polite version). "Imagine bringing someones Mental Health into a debate that is the lowest of the low that mind 😡 In fact it’s bang out of order as I’ve seen how difficult living with Mental Health can be and the damage it can do to someone. Whether the person in question here suffers from mental health or not you DO NOT use it against them to try and win an argument!!!! Don’t care if I get a ban from the Forums but you are way way out of line!!! | |||
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"The left are shitting it They hate the majority of free thinking " Yep and it’s a lovely thing to witness 😃 | |||
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"And you ignore Raynor and Mandonson Your labour party is corrupt Roll on Reform And you can't do anything Prick!!!!!" And that's your right to say that. Farridge just plays to the media, and he's very good at it. But you'll all regret it if he ever becomes something big in government | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. It appears that the utter fukwit community of this country, which apparently has significant numbers on this website, do indeed believe every single word this nasty cnut utters, despite all the evidence to the contrary. God help us all.
So your solution is??? Carry on with Labour? We as a nation cannot go in like this until Labour are kicked out in probably 4 years.
Well the way I look at it, it didn’t matter who got in at the last election. The mess that the Tory’s left was never going to be fixed in one parliament, and because of the state of the countries finances, things were probably going to get worse before they got better. Add to that all the money that is having to be spent on policing all the protests, people are not doing themselves or the country any favours. Labour are (if you look deeper than a lot of the media who have their own agenda want you to know) making some progress, but it is slow, which with limited resources is all we can expect at this stage. Even if the Tory’s had won it wouldn’t be any better, and if you think that Farage would make things better, you really need help with your mental health (that is the polite version).
Imagine bringing someones Mental Health into a debate that is the lowest of the low that mind 😡
In fact it’s bang out of order as I’ve seen how difficult living with Mental Health can be and the damage it can do to someone.
Whether the person in question here suffers from mental health or not you DO NOT use it against them to try and win an argument!!!!
Don’t care if I get a ban from the Forums but you are way way out of line!!!"Thanks fella. My mental health is just fine. Im waiting for that dickhead to call me a knuckle dragging far right Nazi next. People have short memories with labour governments. Borrow,tax and fall off a cliff. In my time it has never been any different only this time it has happened quicker than even i imagined. | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. It appears that the utter fukwit community of this country, which apparently has significant numbers on this website, do indeed believe every single word this nasty cnut utters, despite all the evidence to the contrary. God help us all.
So your solution is??? Carry on with Labour? We as a nation cannot go in like this until Labour are kicked out in probably 4 years.
Well the way I look at it, it didn’t matter who got in at the last election. The mess that the Tory’s left was never going to be fixed in one parliament, and because of the state of the countries finances, things were probably going to get worse before they got better. Add to that all the money that is having to be spent on policing all the protests, people are not doing themselves or the country any favours. Labour are (if you look deeper than a lot of the media who have their own agenda want you to know) making some progress, but it is slow, which with limited resources is all we can expect at this stage. Even if the Tory’s had won it wouldn’t be any better, and if you think that Farage would make things better, you really need help with your mental health (that is the polite version).
Imagine bringing someones Mental Health into a debate that is the lowest of the low that mind 😡
In fact it’s bang out of order as I’ve seen how difficult living with Mental Health can be and the damage it can do to someone.
Whether the person in question here suffers from mental health or not you DO NOT use it against them to try and win an argument!!!!
Don’t care if I get a ban from the Forums but you are way way out of line!!!
Thanks fella. My mental health is just fine. Im waiting for that dickhead to call me a knuckle dragging far right Nazi next. People have short memories with labour governments. Borrow,tax and fall off a cliff. In my time it has never been any different only this time it has happened quicker than even i imagined. "No worries mate I’ll back anyone up especially if Mental Health comes into it 👊 Everyone of us has an opinion be it right or wrong but you never ever bring mental health into argument or debate Take care of yourself mate and stay safe | |||
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"Farage will be the next PM The far left can't do anything Just winge like a spoilt child " But it'll be the very people who vote for such a thing that do the most wingeing about it, that's what they seem to be good at. | |||
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"There is a crisis in science across a large number of different fields, a combination of ideological bias, lack of impartiality due to funding as well as a pressure to publish and a pressure to show positive findings. Everyone would be wise to be healthily sceptical about most topics. " This is straight out of the Trump and his acolyte playbook and dangerous. All scientific research can be all of these things BUT before being accepted as good for society a drug for example goes through rigorous tests and more importantly peer review. Thats why there is so much alarm at the recent claims about paracetamol. These kind of statements cost lives. | |||
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"Farage will be the next PM The far left can't do anything Just winge like a spoilt child " Who are the far left? So what do you call the people winging about starmer? | |||
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"And you ignore Raynor and Mandonson Your labour party is corrupt Roll on Reform And you can't do anything Prick!!!!!" Corrupt. I thought the head of reform in Wales has just been found to have taken money from russia while an mep. | |||
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"You lot keep digging out Farage with your fucking snide remarks but you've no answer to the mess this nation is in. Carry on supporting sir Keir. He's doing a grand job isn't he? Leftie woke arsewipes. Fuck off. " Spot on | |||
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"Think he’s the answer? Be careful what you wish for " Anybody who wished for Starmer to be PM really fucked us up. They got the whole package, Raynor, Reeves, Lammy, Streeting and so on. God help us! | |||
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"The thing about reform leaning voters they seem to don’t mind Farage’s duplicity For example says he hated being in the European Union but was a MEP and fiddled his expenses Talks about strong stable marriage but is divorced Talks about British jobs for British people yet gives a job to his foreign partner Wants everyone to work in an office yet Reform were advertising hybrid roles Critical of Rayner for not paying correct stamp duty but then gives his partner enough money for her to buy a second home And the biggest lie £350m a year his Brexit Party said Britain would save on leaving the EU but admitted that’s a lie. Is a millionaire but says he is here for the working class people he doesn’t know about struggling But all reformers wash over that because he’s going to stop the boats So deluded you reformers! And please don’t come back at this comment by saying “well at least he didn’t help Saville like Starmer..” " Agree | |||
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"You lot keep digging out Farage with your fucking snide remarks but you've no answer to the mess this nation is in. Carry on supporting sir Keir. He's doing a grand job isn't he? Leftie woke arsewipes. Fuck off. Spot on" And what would Farage do about the NHS an aging population lack of social care and social housing a failure of an education system HS2 the transport infrastructure the wars in Gaza and Ukraine? The economy stabilising inflation ? Oh that’s right he would just follow the Trump ideology of screw the people and continue to make the capitalist friends rich. An ideology of racism homophobia and hatred. But of course reformers just want him to stop the boats. | |||
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"You lot keep digging out Farage with your fucking snide remarks but you've no answer to the mess this nation is in. Carry on supporting sir Keir. He's doing a grand job isn't he? Leftie woke arsewipes. Fuck off. Spot on And what would Farage do about the NHS an aging population lack of social care and social housing a failure of an education system HS2 the transport infrastructure the wars in Gaza and Ukraine? The economy stabilising inflation ? Oh that’s right he would just follow the Trump ideology of screw the people and continue to make the capitalist friends rich. An ideology of racism homophobia and hatred. But of course reformers just want him to stop the boats. " That's right. That's all he's obsessed with. | |||
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"The thing about reform leaning voters they seem to don’t mind Farage’s duplicity For example says he hated being in the European Union but was a MEP and fiddled his expenses Talks about strong stable marriage but is divorced Talks about British jobs for British people yet gives a job to his foreign partner Wants everyone to work in an office yet Reform were advertising hybrid roles Critical of Rayner for not paying correct stamp duty but then gives his partner enough money for her to buy a second home And the biggest lie £350m a year his Brexit Party said Britain would save on leaving the EU but admitted that’s a lie. Is a millionaire but says he is here for the working class people he doesn’t know about struggling But all reformers wash over that because he’s going to stop the boats So deluded you reformers! And please don’t come back at this comment by saying “well at least he didn’t help Saville like Starmer..” " Add to that Farages role in enabling these Brexit Boats to initially start coming here in the 1st place. | |||
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"The thing about reform leaning voters they seem to don’t mind Farage’s duplicity For example says he hated being in the European Union but was a MEP and fiddled his expenses Talks about strong stable marriage but is divorced Talks about British jobs for British people yet gives a job to his foreign partner Wants everyone to work in an office yet Reform were advertising hybrid roles Critical of Rayner for not paying correct stamp duty but then gives his partner enough money for her to buy a second home And the biggest lie £350m a year his Brexit Party said Britain would save on leaving the EU but admitted that’s a lie. Is a millionaire but says he is here for the working class people he doesn’t know about struggling But all reformers wash over that because he’s going to stop the boats So deluded you reformers! And please don’t come back at this comment by saying “well at least he didn’t help Saville like Starmer..” Add to that Farages role in enabling these Brexit Boats to initially start coming here in the 1st place." Ahh yes that’s a good one to add to his list He received the most money outside of Parliament as well last year so can insulate himself from the ordinary people his property alone is estimated to be £3m | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. I'm not a fan of Nigel Farage, but his quote:— “When it comes to science, I don’t side with anybody because science is never settled”— Actually makes logical sense! Science changes with new discoveries, so it’s not always "settled." The problem is some people have twisted this quote to criticise him to suit their own agenda as so often happens in politics! Perhaps we should stick to the facts instead of letting people spin things! " ================================================= Your last sentence is ironic, given that you have presented an argument that supports a belief that there are no such things as facts, or indeed objective truth, and nothing can be known. That argument is a foundation of the ideology of science deniers, who say that nothing is absolutely proven down to every minute detail, and nothing can be said to be true, so everyone is entitled to believe what appeals to them most. That will usually be a belief promoted by them. It's a flexible system, that can be applied to just about anything: medicine, science, technology, climate, politics, etc. I'm sorry to disrupt your belief in your pick & mix world, in which all beliefs are equally valid and should be equally respected, but there is, in most matters such a thing as consensus, based upon evidence and probabilities. For example: If you have thousands of experienced experts (yes, i know - another discredited term) who argue for a well established medical treatment to counter an infectious disease, and one who ponders whether maybe introducing bleach into your lungs might cure it ... because, you know, he's a genius ... you may want to think twice before dashing down to Tesco and buying a bottle of Domestos and a length of plastic tube. And if you wonder how that might play out if someone tipped as a future PM gets into power, look at the US. The monster in the White House isn't just saying he doesn't believe in science: he's taking away choices from those who do. He's driving a juggernaut through government agencies; people who challenge him are removed and replaced with his toadies. He's no longer offering free choice, when any choice other than the one he favours is removed. | |||
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"There is a crisis in science across a large number of different fields, a combination of ideological bias, lack of impartiality due to funding as well as a pressure to publish and a pressure to show positive findings. Everyone would be wise to be healthily sceptical about most topics. This is straight out of the Trump and his acolyte playbook and dangerous. All scientific research can be all of these things BUT before being accepted as good for society a drug for example goes through rigorous tests and more importantly peer review. Thats why there is so much alarm at the recent claims about paracetamol. These kind of statements cost lives." And there is only a short step from arguing that there is no such thing as medical expertise, to making their treatments unavailable. I have a vision of the future of American medical treatment. It resembles the kind of frontier medicine I used to see in the westerns I watched as a child. Primitive treatments based on folk remedies, carried out in the back of a covered wagon or in a shack. There are some, of course, who have a rose-tinted view of those days - which neither they nor anyone else living now ever experienced - based on a belief in grit and self-reliance. It ultimately reduces to a half-witted perversion of Darwinism, a faith in survival of the fittest, in which people die because they deserve to, and the population is better off without them. | |||
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"Nigel will work miracles! Just wait and watch!. If you believe that he will do anything for anybody but himself then you are really in for a big shock I'm certain. He does not care about you. If you believe any politician will do anything for anybody but themselves you are in for a shock. They don't care about you." I never said that, did I? I’m laughing at the idea Farage is a change from the norm, | |||
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"There is a crisis in science across a large number of different fields, a combination of ideological bias, lack of impartiality due to funding as well as a pressure to publish and a pressure to show positive findings. Everyone would be wise to be healthily sceptical about most topics. This is straight out of the Trump and his acolyte playbook and dangerous. All scientific research can be all of these things BUT before being accepted as good for society a drug for example goes through rigorous tests and more importantly peer review. Thats why there is so much alarm at the recent claims about paracetamol. These kind of statements cost lives." No, it's straight out of many scientific publications, across many fields. Drug testing is funded by the drug companies. Nutritional advice is guided by the food industry. There has been a rapid increase in disorders of neuro-divergence and in disorders of sexual development. The causes have not been established, however a precautionary approach to health would be sensible especially where there is significant association with a particular drug. Making a decision on your health, or the health of your unborn child, based on a political allegiance is dangerous. | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. It appears that the utter fukwit community of this country, which apparently has significant numbers on this website, do indeed believe every single word this nasty cnut utters, despite all the evidence to the contrary. God help us all.
So your solution is??? Carry on with Labour? We as a nation cannot go in like this until Labour are kicked out in probably 4 years.
Well the way I look at it, it didn’t matter who got in at the last election. The mess that the Tory’s left was never going to be fixed in one parliament, and because of the state of the countries finances, things were probably going to get worse before they got better. Add to that all the money that is having to be spent on policing all the protests, people are not doing themselves or the country any favours. Labour are (if you look deeper than a lot of the media who have their own agenda want you to know) making some progress, but it is slow, which with limited resources is all we can expect at this stage. Even if the Tory’s had won it wouldn’t be any better, and if you think that Farage would make things better, you really need help with your mental health (that is the polite version).
Imagine bringing someones Mental Health into a debate that is the lowest of the low that mind 😡
In fact it’s bang out of order as I’ve seen how difficult living with Mental Health can be and the damage it can do to someone.
Whether the person in question here suffers from mental health or not you DO NOT use it against them to try and win an argument!!!!
Don’t care if I get a ban from the Forums but you are way way out of line!!!"And why not? Part of the problem is people are being gaslit by the likes of Farage (Johnson did the same as well) - Trump did the same in America. A balanced person will question what is being said when something seems wrong, part of gaslighting is to stop them questioning without even realising it. It turns people into Zealots who can’t be reasoned with. Look at the violence being whipped up leading to attacks and arson attempts - not the actions of rational minds. Do I deny that there are problems? No I don’t, but I do question people who just try and whip up unrest for their own ends, especially when they are targeting it at specific groups, yet they offer no real or workable solutions. If we are not careful we are going to end up with our own version of Kristallnacht. | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. It appears that the utter fukwit community of this country, which apparently has significant numbers on this website, do indeed believe every single word this nasty cnut utters, despite all the evidence to the contrary. God help us all.
So your solution is??? Carry on with Labour? We as a nation cannot go in like this until Labour are kicked out in probably 4 years.
Well the way I look at it, it didn’t matter who got in at the last election. The mess that the Tory’s left was never going to be fixed in one parliament, and because of the state of the countries finances, things were probably going to get worse before they got better. Add to that all the money that is having to be spent on policing all the protests, people are not doing themselves or the country any favours. Labour are (if you look deeper than a lot of the media who have their own agenda want you to know) making some progress, but it is slow, which with limited resources is all we can expect at this stage. Even if the Tory’s had won it wouldn’t be any better, and if you think that Farage would make things better, you really need help with your mental health (that is the polite version).
Imagine bringing someones Mental Health into a debate that is the lowest of the low that mind 😡
In fact it’s bang out of order as I’ve seen how difficult living with Mental Health can be and the damage it can do to someone.
Whether the person in question here suffers from mental health or not you DO NOT use it against them to try and win an argument!!!!
Don’t care if I get a ban from the Forums but you are way way out of line!!!
And why not? Part of the problem is people are being gaslit by the likes of Farage (Johnson did the same as well) - Trump did the same in America. A balanced person will question what is being said when something seems wrong, part of gaslighting is to stop them questioning without even realising it. It turns people into Zealots who can’t be reasoned with. Look at the violence being whipped up leading to attacks and arson attempts - not the actions of rational minds. Do I deny that there are problems? No I don’t, but I do question people who just try and whip up unrest for their own ends, especially when they are targeting it at specific groups, yet they offer no real or workable solutions. If we are not careful we are going to end up with our own version of Kristallnacht."Well said! We are drifting towards that in plain sight. People are being gaslit with a narrative that “it’s all going to shit/we are being lied to/this Labour government is rubbish/stop the illegals…etc”. It’s very toxic and distracting people from looking at real problems - I.e inequality and who has a vested interest in maintaining it by setting poor against poor. We actually live in a great country if we can all make it work. Don’t fall for the sewer agenda. | |||
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"Looks like farage will be the next pm, after watching starmer on bbc today, I won’t be objecting! " More fool you. Pound Shop Enoch Powell to cite Ed Miliband. In fact Farage isn’t even worth that. Posh boy grifter. Alas, we get the leaders we deserve… | |||
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"Who cares what he said trump told people to drink bleach still got voted in. " Exactly, if people can’t exercise critical thinking and can’t spot a chancer who is only interested in themselves and gaslights people to get there, then that is how you end up with people like Trump, Johnson even Hitler I’m places of power and it doesn’t end well for the people or their country in the long run. | |||
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"Who cares what he said trump told people to drink bleach still got voted in. " That is a total lie! You really should listen to what he said which was when they announced bleach could kill the Covid virus " wouldn't it be great if they could find something LIKE this which would be injectable" | |||
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"You lot keep digging out Farage with your fucking snide remarks but you've no answer to the mess this nation is in. Carry on supporting sir Keir. He's doing a grand job isn't he? Leftie woke arsewipes. Fuck off. " You have a point that negative comments are hardly positive solutions. Trouble is are Farage's simplistic, populist solutions really viable in the real world? Disliking Farage does not mean you like Starmer or are a 'lefty woke arsewipe' to use your colourful phrase. I have no time for Starmer or his current gang of hopeless minister. I'm most certainly not a lefty or what is perceived to be a wokey either. However I have no time for Farage either. Carefully stage managed. Says or implies what people want to hear. I saw through him years ago. I don't know what the answer is at all. Far too many complex problems with no easy solutions. But if Farage is the answer then it must be a very silly question. | |||
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" I don't know what the answer is at all. Far too many complex problems with no easy solutions. But if Farage is the answer then it must be a very silly question." We often disagree on this forum but I could not have put that better after a year of trying. | |||
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"I do hope Trump has a word with his CIA buddies about a certain London Mayor, him involved in a nice accident would do us all a favour 😆 🤣 " Hang on, wasn't it you lot bleating about poor Charlie Kirk and saying violence doesn't solve anything? | |||
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"I do hope Trump has a word with his CIA buddies about a certain London Mayor, him involved in a nice accident would do us all a favour 😆 🤣 Hang on, wasn't it you lot bleating about poor Charlie Kirk and saying violence doesn't solve anything?" Don’t expect consistency or authenticity here! Just whatever sound bite makes you feel good. | |||
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"Labour supporters are obviously worried about Farage. If he is as bad as they make out, why worry?" I don’t know if that’s true, the only people who keep saying labour supporters are worried, are reform supporters. | |||
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"Farage is a charlatan who did his utmost to disrupt the EU parliament when he was in it but will still draw its pension when he turns 63. In return for his 20 years of "service". In this respect I think the EU is gutless. They should have shown him the door years ago, let it slam his arse on the way out and removed his entitlement to any EU money." I believe there were only three MEPs with a worse attendance and voting record than Farage. Couldn't be bothered to turn up or vote on matters concerning the UK. Occasionally made a rather embarrassing gung-ho jingoistic speech. During one of those he looked and sounded the worse for drink. Never forget him, and his adoring acolytes, turning their backs whilst the 'European anthem' was being played. Sort of behavior one would expect in an infants school. | |||
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"Labour supporters are obviously worried about Farage. If he is as bad as they make out, why worry?" Oh, dear.
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"Labour supporters are obviously worried about Farage. If he is as bad as they make out, why worry? I don’t know if that’s true, the only people who keep saying labour supporters are worried, are reform supporters." Labour are very much worried about Reform 😆! Ive even had it from a senior member of Labour (no names mentioned) that Labour is in a state of panic. | |||
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"Labour supporters are obviously worried about Farage. If he is as bad as they make out, why worry? I don’t know if that’s true, the only people who keep saying labour supporters are worried, are reform supporters." Then why yet another thread on Farage?? | |||
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"Labour supporters are obviously worried about Farage. If he is as bad as they make out, why worry?" Because he's deliberately hijacked the working class vote with facile and undeliverable promises, xenophobia and his pint and a fag schtick. Politicians used to give the electorate more credit for listening to policies. It's all just throwaway progaganda now, which is easy for Reform to fabricate and a lot harder for Labour to counter. It's an uncomfortable truth, but if Labour had an even mildly charismatic leader who could match Farage's bollocks with straight-talking and not appearing as if they were always talking down to the hoi-polloi, none of this would be an issue. | |||
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"And now the main stream media are fawning over him and hanging on his every word. " As they did with Starmer, and look at how that has turned out... | |||
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"Labour supporters are obviously worried about Farage. If he is as bad as they make out, why worry? Because he's deliberately hijacked the working class vote with facile and undeliverable promises, xenophobia and his pint and a fag schtick. Politicians used to give the electorate more credit for listening to policies. It's all just throwaway progaganda now, which is easy for Reform to fabricate and a lot harder for Labour to counter. It's an uncomfortable truth, but if Labour had an even mildly charismatic leader who could match Farage's bollocks with straight-talking and not appearing as if they were always talking down to the hoi-polloi, none of this would be an issue. " And that is largely how Starmer got to power... unfortunately its called politics | |||
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"Labour supporters are obviously worried about Farage. If he is as bad as they make out, why worry? I don’t know if that’s true, the only people who keep saying labour supporters are worried, are reform supporters. Then why yet another thread on Farage??" Clickbate, Farage threads get traction and arguments, that’s what this whole forum is founded on. Do not make the mistake of thinking that what happens in here is any sort of bellwether for real life!! | |||
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"And now the main stream media are fawning over him and hanging on his every word. As they did with Starmer, and look at how that has turned out..." Tell us how it’s turned out. What exactly do you see as problems and potential Solutions?. I’m genuinely interested | |||
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"And that is largely how Starmer got to power... unfortunately its called politics" I'll admit Starmer's been a massive disappointment to me. I had high hopes when this government was elected and thought they were making some good progressive calls on advisors etc but they've lost the plot and any control of the popular narrative very quickly. As much of a tool as Blair now looks with hindsight, he did at least capture the public's imagination and respect for a while in the late 90s. This lot are too po-faced and missing the feelgood factor. | |||
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"I've said this before: if Farage had behaved at a private company the way he'd behaved as an EU MP, he'd had been sacked out of hand without any references or pension rights. Joining an organisation with the express intent of undermining it isn't being a populist disruptor, it's being a saboteur plain and simple. While we're on the agenda of the idiot a couple of posts above, most militaries have their own ways of dealing with that most hated of roles. " You forgot to mention “when he could even be bothered to turn up”. He was always much too busy doing other jobs elsewhere (and getting paid to do them) than doing the one he was being paid by the taxpayer to do. As far as I can see the Leopard hasn’t changed his spots, as far as I can see he has a poor attendance and voting record in Parliament and doesn’t seem to want to do face to face surgeries in Clacton (seems he is too afraid of hordes of cities with knives wanting to stab him. Oh and what’s this about him having an undeclared (on the members register of interests) commercial fishing vessel? Not very transparent with his interests is he. | |||
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"I've said this before: if Farage had behaved at a private company the way he'd behaved as an EU MP, he'd had been sacked out of hand without any references or pension rights. Joining an organisation with the express intent of undermining it isn't being a populist disruptor, it's being a saboteur plain and simple. While we're on the agenda of the idiot a couple of posts above, most militaries have their own ways of dealing with that most hated of roles. You forgot to mention “when he could even be bothered to turn up”. He was always much too busy doing other jobs elsewhere (and getting paid to do them) than doing the one he was being paid by the taxpayer to do. As far as I can see the Leopard hasn’t changed his spots, as far as I can see he has a poor attendance and voting record in Parliament and doesn’t seem to want to do face to face surgeries in Clacton (seems he is too afraid of hordes of cities with knives wanting to stab him. Oh and what’s this about him having an undeclared (on the members register of interests) commercial fishing vessel? Not very transparent with his interests is he." grifter | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. " once again you misquote someone to start yr argument, you seem to delight in being against anyone , is there is no thread you won't jump into to cause conflict ( it seems so ) get a life | |||
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"In the same way the Tories are responsible for clearing the way for the most useless government of modern times, so it is the Labour Party responsible for proving it up. Probably best Starmer calls a quick election to spike Farage's guns and to clear the air within the beleaguered Labour party Starmer would never call a quick election because he knows fine well he would be trounced by Reform 😁 He will go down in history as the worse PM ever the man is so out of touch it’s frightening For the Working class 🤔 aye rights he is 😡 Surely Liz Truss was the worst" The way Rachel from accounts is going maybe not | |||
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"So, are we just ignoring that in his interview on lbc last week he said when it comes to science he doesn't believe anyone. His evidence that some want to bring in sharia law is because a taxi driver told him and that people are eating swans. And people trust this man to be pm. I think you have to be several layers of dense to vote for him and his ilk. Sadly, there are plenty of slow witted people in this country who will vote for him. Hence Brexit." What a twat you are ,to talk down half the country because you dont agree with there politics ,it dosnt make them thick,stupid,uneducated . | |||
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"Labour supporters are obviously worried about Farage. If he is as bad as they make out, why worry? I don’t know if that’s true, the only people who keep saying labour supporters are worried, are reform supporters. Then why yet another thread on Farage?? Clickbate, Farage threads get traction and arguments, that’s what this whole forum is founded on. Do not make the mistake of thinking that what happens in here is any sort of bellwether for real life!!" Really? Belive that if you wish. | |||
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"Labour supporters are obviously worried about Farage. If he is as bad as they make out, why worry? I don’t know if that’s true, the only people who keep saying labour supporters are worried, are reform supporters. Then why yet another thread on Farage??" I started it to ask a genuine question, why are people not taking any notice of the fact he's just making stuff up and taking as fact something a taxi driver told him. No one yet has really answered. | |||
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"There's an argument for that " Reform would still win ,in fact if we had had that at the last ,labour would not have been in power ,and refor. Would have had a lot more seats | |||
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