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By *rueguy OP Man
2 weeks ago

notts

The Harold Wilson of the day?

I'd think about voting for him

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By *usan jonesTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Wolverhampton

Wasn’t he a really bad health secretary? Quite sure he tried to hide some scandal with Staffordshire health authorities

Also tried to be leader twice list out to Corbyn and then Starmer

He also has to win a by election and would Starmer let him stand?

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By *ammy57TV/TS
2 weeks ago

Stevenage

Only one of two parties so far that correctly identify the runaway housing market as a direct source of serious pain for most voters.

The banks will be scared $hitless of him.

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By *eefandfurMan
2 weeks ago

Edinburgh

He's certainly more likeable than either Starmer or Corbyn. There are factions within the Labour party that will likely undermine him, maybe even sabotage him.

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By *stronomiqueMan
2 weeks ago

Preston ish

Errr...no. There's some real issue about £800M in his dealings with some housing building company...amongst other things.

Wouldn't trust him.

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By *izzeekMan
2 weeks ago

Out & about

Says so much about how Labour has lost its way if it thinks that there is nobody within it ranks of MP's who could possibly make a better PM than the useless idiot we have at the moment.

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By *izzeekMan
2 weeks ago

Out & about

Burnham has baggage....

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By *ammy57TV/TS
2 weeks ago

Stevenage

"Errr...no. There's some real issue about £800M in his dealings with some housing building company...amongst other things.

Wouldn't trust him."

Let's see if he wants to structurally change the market with corporate taxation and renter friendly regulation , or is he just pushing for more govt money pumped into housing.

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By *tephen_b50Man
2 weeks ago

Bristol

He's done quite a bit of flip-flopping over the Brexit/EU discussion.

Which indicates - whichever side of that divide you're on - that he's yet another one who senses which way the wind is blowing, then elbows his way to the front of the crowd and shouts "Follow Me".

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By *ookingaroundMan
2 weeks ago

Bristol

"He's done quite a bit of flip-flopping over the Brexit/EU discussion.

Which indicates - whichever side of that divide you're on - that he's yet another one who senses which way the wind is blowing, then elbows his way to the front of the crowd and shouts "Follow Me".

Or could it be that he listens to new information and changes his stance in the light of what he has heard?

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By *ldderMan
2 weeks ago

Oxford and Sevenoaks

Wouldn't vote for anyone that's labour

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By *athCDTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Morpeth

No, definitely not, after he stood for the leadership and was defeated instead of fighting Jezza, he left parliament to step on the gravy train at Manchester, as did Tristan Hunt, he stepped away for a good fix at the V and A. A plague on all their houses

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By *ildwestheroMan
2 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells

Andy Burnham basically has two things in his favour:-he's easy on the eye and has a pleasant speaking voice and mannerism. He leans a lot further to the left than Starmer which may not be in his favour with the world seemingly taking a step to the right. Hasn't done a bad job as Manchester mayor but his time as a government minister wasn't something to crow about. Returning to parliament could be difficult at the moment. Would need a by-election in an extremely safe seat. Tactical voting could scupper his chances for ever.

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By *ammy aka SammyTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Bedford

No its them eyebrows just something not quite right x

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By *os001Man
2 weeks ago

Oxford

I'd let him fuck me.

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By *eepeter4Man
2 weeks ago

Bournemouth

According to a Reformers from Salford he is Fred Elliott's secret love child

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By *leepflowerMan
2 weeks ago

Leek

"No, definitely not, after he stood for the leadership and was defeated instead of fighting Jezza, he left parliament to step on the gravy train at Manchester, as did Tristan Hunt, he stepped away for a good fix at the V and A. A plague on all their houses "
I quite liked Hunt. My mum lives in what was his constituency and he seemed to doing a fairly decent job but as a passionate historian, that V & A gig couldn't have been a more perfect opportunity for him and I believe they approached him with it. I wouldn't judge him too harshly for taking it. Indeed, I don't blame him one bit.

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By *andomguy321Man
2 weeks ago

reading

He's personable, but quite lightweight.

(still better than Starmer though)

He'd make a good deputy under a decent Labour leader.

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By *hilledazzMan
2 weeks ago

Down

"According to a Reformers from Salford he is Fred Elliott's secret love child "

I SAY PERISH THE THOUGHT, PERISH THE THOUGHT I SAY !!

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By *ilthy tracy300Man
2 weeks ago

lancashire

Beware of Burnham ,he's worse than starmer ,

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By *omo2026Man
2 weeks ago

Liverpool

He's one of them who is protecting the so called grooming gangs

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By *rueguy OP Man
2 weeks ago

notts

I like the way Tobias Elwood speaks

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By *b20Man
2 weeks ago

Glasgow

I dontknow too much about the guy, but he has progressed tge gay scene in Manchester, that's for sure

I know it's not everything,or the most important issue, but it is one thing tgatis a positive in my humble opinion

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By *lapin1234Man
2 weeks ago

Lincoln

He'd get my vote.

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By *astguy7Man
2 weeks ago

Ross on Wye

He has nice hairy legs.

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By *ichey6Man
2 weeks ago

aberdeen

He would take care of that odious melt Farage at the ballot-box.

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By *erasusMan
2 weeks ago

Glasgow

If he really wanted to become leader he hasn’t played the the political game very well.

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By *ichey6Man
2 weeks ago

aberdeen

The long game.

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By *irtyfacesMan
2 weeks ago

near

Google his history,as dodgy as the rest

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By *arcus BezzantMan
2 weeks ago

North Ayrshire

He wrote a grovelling, sycophantic letter to the then Prince Charles when he was health secretary, that puts me off, as I can't stand the greedy, narcissistic Royals.

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By *ichey6Man
2 weeks ago

aberdeen

"Google his history,as dodgy as the rest "

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Dodgier than Mone?

A serial liar like Johnson?

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By *eepeter4Man
2 weeks ago

Bournemouth

"He would take care of that odious melt Farage at the ballot-box."
he's already signed up Uncle Knobhead as is personal advisor what could possibly go wrong

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By *athCDTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Morpeth

He is not a democratic, he has said he would like to rejoin the EU, despite the majority of Britons electing to leave. Speaks Volumes.I hope he stays in Manchester they're welcome to hom

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By *ichey6Man
2 weeks ago

aberdeen

Circa 49% wanted to remain. It was hardly a crushing victory. Democracy is not just about the views of the winning side.

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By *obert xMan
2 weeks ago

West Lancs

Man who thinks charging £12.50 a day will magically clean the air.

Thankfully the public backlash meant it was never seen through.

Cut from the same cloth as Brown etc, would tip your Grandmother upside down to get 10 pence out of her pocket.

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By *erasusMan
2 weeks ago

Glasgow

"He is not a democratic, he has said he would like to rejoin the EU, despite the majority of Britons electing to leave. Speaks Volumes.I hope he stays in Manchester they're welcome to hom"

Saying he would LIKE to rejoin the EU is not undemocratic!

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By *ichey6Man
2 weeks ago

aberdeen

"Man who thinks charging £12.50 a day will magically clean the air.

Thankfully the public backlash meant it was never seen through.

Cut from the same cloth as Brown etc, would tip your Grandmother upside down to get 10 pence out of her pocket."

...

That'll be Gordon Brown who raised working class people out of poverty...

But. . but

Gold.

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By *arcus BezzantMan
2 weeks ago

North Ayrshire

"He is not a democratic, he has said he would like to rejoin the EU, despite the majority of Britons electing to leave. Speaks Volumes.I hope he stays in Manchester they're welcome to hom"

Scotland and Northern Ireland voted stay, two of the four constituent Countries of the UK, in any other Country, ie one that wasn't as massively corrupt as the UK that would have blocked leaving.

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By *ichey6Man
2 weeks ago

aberdeen

"He is not a democratic, he has said he would like to rejoin the EU, despite the majority of Britons electing to leave. Speaks Volumes.I hope he stays in Manchester they're welcome to hom

Saying he would LIKE to rejoin the EU is not undemocratic!"

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Agreed.

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By *enjamin2018Man
2 weeks ago

Gosfield

"Circa 49% wanted to remain. It was hardly a crushing victory. Democracy is not just about the views of the winning side."

Sounds better in numbers, just over 1,200,000.

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By *athCDTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Morpeth

Lots of lovely responses from the Highland Brigade, might have expected that, after all, they don't like referendums unless they win them. Move along please

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By *arcus BezzantMan
2 weeks ago

North Ayrshire

"Man who thinks charging £12.50 a day will magically clean the air.

Thankfully the public backlash meant it was never seen through.

Cut from the same cloth as Brown etc, would tip your Grandmother upside down to get 10 pence out of her pocket.

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That'll be Gordon Brown who raised working class people out of poverty...

But. . but

Gold."

Gordon Brown is widely despised by working class and left leaning people here in Scotland, he strongly backed the Tories in the 2014 independence referendum, to suck up to his beloved Royals and Establishment,not to mention he is a War Criminal.

I went to a party in George Square in Glasgow to celebrate Thatcher's demise, I'll be doing the same for Brown, even if I'm the only one there.

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By *ichey6Man
2 weeks ago

aberdeen

"Lots of lovely responses from the Highland Brigade, might have expected that, after all, they don't like referendums unless they win them. Move along please"

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Your grasp of geography is poor.

You also overlook the significant support for independence that exists in Scotland.

The democratic mandate for a second referendum was of course ignored by Johnson.

Move along?

That's a tad undemocratic surely?

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By *orwdMan
2 weeks ago

Sheffield

Big gob.

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By *ance29Man
2 weeks ago

Mytholmroyd

Indeed he was. Tried to cover up his role in the scandal and then fortunately for him Labour was booted out of office just as things were getting hot.

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By *DAnnetteTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Brighton

"He's one of them who is protecting the so called grooming gangs"
.....and you have irrefutable evidence of this? Do share......

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By *tar33Man
2 weeks ago

North London (outer)

"He's one of them who is protecting the so called grooming gangs"

Nobody is protecting any grooming gangs, don't talk such nonsense.

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By *obbleTV/TS
2 weeks ago

manchester

He is very popular in Manchester even though he is a scouser.

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By *volasLightMan
2 weeks ago

Manchester

A cunt ? Erm Yes.

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By *obbleTV/TS
2 weeks ago

manchester

Maybe. But he won by a landslide when he became Mayor.

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By *izzeekMan
2 weeks ago

Out & about

Burnham seems as indecisive as Starmer.. what a chaotic shambles!

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By *eanDevizesMan
2 weeks ago

Devizes

As someone who lost twice for the Labour leader against Edd Miliband then Jeremy Corbin, you would still vote for him ???

Plus the fact he tried covering up thousands of death in a Staffordshire Hospital .

If that is he best Labour have got then to quote " will the last person in British turn off he lights ".

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By *arrogateDadMan
2 weeks ago

Harrogate

Very ineffectual Culture & Health Secretary under Gordon Brown…not really in any post long enough to make much of a difference. He rubber stamped start of the Staffordshire inquiry but was in opposition by the time it reported back.

Can’t really comment on his time as Mayor of Manchester as I’m not from the wrong side of the Pennines ….but the Manc’s keep Voting him back in, so presumably he’s doing something right.

One thing he does deserve respect for is support for the Hillsborough families during that long campaign for some kind of justice. He’s from Liverpool & it obviously meant a lot to him ….very instrumental behind the scenes apparently & put his own money into the fund to help the campaign keep on going when the authorities wanted to continue the cover up.

Seems a bit of a chancer though, more interested in himself than his party ….or the rest of us …

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