 | Back to forum list |
| Back to The Lounge |
| Jump to newest |  |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Figures released by the Home Office. In one year 200,000 house built - 800,000 people added to the population almost all by immigration. Whatever your politics are, surely we can all agree that this is obviously unsustainable " The least we should insist on is that they can spell 🤣🤣🤣 | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Figures released by the Home Office. In one year 200,000 house built - 800,000 people added to the population almost all by immigration. Whatever your politics are, surely we can all agree that this is obviously unsustainable The least we should insist on is that they can spell 🤣🤣🤣" Attack the spelling when you can't dispute the point🤣 | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Again…….. 431,000 NET migration a 50% reduction on the previous year I’m not suggesting immigration is not needing sorted but use the correct information " Only quoting Home office figures | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Again…….. 431,000 NET migration a 50% reduction on the previous year I’m not suggesting immigration is not needing sorted but use the correct information " But a 50% reduction doesn't fit the narrative | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"👎👎👎" What's your problem exactly, and why are you either too frightened or too stupid to put it into words? The OP has made a valid point, without any racism or Islamaphobic comment. There's obviously a problem with the number of people crossing the channel on boats, why can it not be properly discussed? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Figures released by the Home Office. In one year 200,000 house built - 800,000 people added to the population almost all by immigration. Whatever your politics are, surely we can all agree that this is obviously unsustainable The least we should insist on is that they can spell 🤣🤣🤣" This  | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"👎👎👎 What's your problem exactly, and why are you either too frightened or too stupid to put it into words? The OP has made a valid point, without any racism or Islamaphobic comment. There's obviously a problem with the number of people crossing the channel on boats, why can it not be properly discussed?" I wondered how long it would take for someone to make the "boats" comment on the thread started with cherry-picked data  | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"It's the plan. Housing shortages keep the price of housing high. High Immigration keeps incomes low. " No. High house prices keep house prices high. Houses are seen (and sold) as an investment rather than shelter, and unless something radical changes that position they will never get appreciably cheaper. The complication caused by right to buy prevents the construction of meaningful quantities of social housing and makes matters even worse. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"👎👎👎 What's your problem exactly, and why are you either too frightened or too stupid to put it into words? The OP has made a valid point, without any racism or Islamaphobic comment. There's obviously a problem with the number of people crossing the channel on boats, why can it not be properly discussed? I wondered how long it would take for someone to make the "boats" comment on the thread started with cherry-picked data "Undocumented economic migrants entering the country by boat, mainly men, is a valid concern. I don't care about their race, colour or religion but it's costing us millions, and changing whole demographic in many parts of the country. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"👎👎👎 What's your problem exactly, and why are you either too frightened or too stupid to put it into words? The OP has made a valid point, without any racism or Islamaphobic comment. There's obviously a problem with the number of people crossing the channel on boats, why can it not be properly discussed? I wondered how long it would take for someone to make the "boats" comment on the thread started with cherry-picked data
Undocumented economic migrants entering the country by boat, mainly men, is a valid concern. I don't care about their race, colour or religion but it's costing us millions, and changing whole demographic in many parts of the country."Agreed, and I think the only realistic way to stop immigration via boats is going to be something very harsh, otherwise it will continue and now it's actually getting worse - recently a boat arrived with 106 people aboard. In my view we have to simply refuse to accept anyone who comes illegally - and the only practical way is to send them all - no exceptions whatsoever - somewhere unpleasant like St Helena. That is harsh but would eventually stop it altogether. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"👎👎👎 What's your problem exactly, and why are you either too frightened or too stupid to put it into words? The OP has made a valid point, without any racism or Islamaphobic comment. There's obviously a problem with the number of people crossing the channel on boats, why can it not be properly discussed? I wondered how long it would take for someone to make the "boats" comment on the thread started with cherry-picked data
Undocumented economic migrants entering the country by boat, mainly men, is a valid concern. I don't care about their race, colour or religion but it's costing us millions, and changing whole demographic in many parts of the country.
Agreed, and I think the only realistic way to stop immigration via boats is going to be something very harsh, otherwise it will continue and now it's actually getting worse - recently a boat arrived with 106 people aboard. In my view we have to simply refuse to accept anyone who comes illegally - and the only practical way is to send them all - no exceptions whatsoever - somewhere unpleasant like St Helena. That is harsh but would eventually stop it altogether."The asylum seeker is entitled to somewhere safe until their claim is processed. That is all. Even the Falkland Islands qualifies as safe. No chance of the far right launching attacks there. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Why don't the people who are unhappy about the UK immigration situation go and live somewhere else?" So I guess you are happy with the situation? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"They should build more houses near London, since that's where most people want to live. Or maybe in Kent or the Cotswolds." They are building lots of houses unfortunately most turn in to second homes or holiday cottages | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Figures released by the Home Office. In one year 200,000 house built - 800,000 people added to the population almost all by immigration. Whatever your politics are, surely we can all agree that this is obviously unsustainable The least we should insist on is that they can spell 🤣🤣🤣" | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Oh that’s ok then , a lot of fuss over nothing . We can relax and welcome them open armed , oh we do that anyway I guess. " We do when they fill the gaps in care and hospital workers and all the jobs that we don't like doing ourselves. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This thread has prompted me to look at the official figures, and I'm quite shocked tbh. In the year up to March 2025 192,000 with work 403,000 with study 76,000 to join family 70,000 via safe and legal routes. 741,000 total 44,000 by illegal means. That makes illegal immigration just under 6% of total immigration. It's just 6%! If as we are led to believe, this is about housing, resources etc, why such a focus on the smallest percentage group? " Because it’s easier to fire people up by conflating all the different types of immigration into one single thing. Even if the Brexit Boats were stopped overnight, it wouldn't really meaningfully impact the overall picture because the vast majority of the numbers have always been connected to legal immigration. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This thread has prompted me to look at the official figures, and I'm quite shocked tbh. In the year up to March 2025 192,000 with work 403,000 with study 76,000 to join family 70,000 via safe and legal routes. 741,000 total 44,000 by illegal means. That makes illegal immigration just under 6% of total immigration. It's just 6%! If as we are led to believe, this is about housing, resources etc, why such a focus on the smallest percentage group? " 192,000 working and therefore paying taxes, NI, rent, council tax etc Not necessarily permanent 403,000 to study, paying tuition fees, student rent and buying food etc… Not necessarily permanent 76,000 to join family, and therefore able to work buy food and other goods etc 70,000 eligible to work etc 44,000 being housed in luxury in hotels and HMOs being fed, receiving healthcare taxis courses etc at an extortionate COST TO US. 600,000 of your numbers are not necessarily permanent but actually contribute to the economy whilst the 6% cost us all an arm and a leg. That is why they are headlines. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"We should only be taking those in who have qualifications to do a decent job, can speak fluent English and have enough money to support themselves.. Let the illegals stay in France, not our problem and a drain on the taxpayers." God no I like going to France on my holidays don’t want them there . They would be much happier in this green and pleasant land . With all the other riff raff . | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This thread has prompted me to look at the official figures, and I'm quite shocked tbh. In the year up to March 2025 192,000 with work 403,000 with study 76,000 to join family 70,000 via safe and legal routes. 741,000 total 44,000 by illegal means. That makes illegal immigration just under 6% of total immigration. It's just 6%! If as we are led to believe, this is about housing, resources etc, why such a focus on the smallest percentage group? " Oh no, your going to upset a lot of people now using facts & logic ! I don't have a problem with people coming here. They are simply trying to better their own, & their families lives. I do however have a problem with the government. I believe we should be stricter on the number of people being allowed in. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Why don't the people who are unhappy about the UK immigration situation go and live somewhere else?" I think you'll find the wealthy are, leaving us to fund the shortfall in tax revenues. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Send in the army and sink the buggers." 😁 | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Send in the army and sink the buggers." I should imagine, Tom, that the Navy might have a little more experience in going to sea? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Figures released by the Home Office. In one year 200,000 house built - 800,000 people added to the population almost all by immigration. Whatever your politics are, surely we can all agree that this is obviously unsustainable " I mean there is some subtle wording in your post doing a lot of masking of reality. Immigration is down 50% from a year ago, and it’s nowhere near 800000. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"👎👎👎 What's your problem exactly, and why are you either too frightened or too stupid to put it into words? The OP has made a valid point, without any racism or Islamaphobic comment. There's obviously a problem with the number of people crossing the channel on boats, why can it not be properly discussed? I wondered how long it would take for someone to make the "boats" comment on the thread started with cherry-picked data ". There's no cherry picking about the highest number of illegal immigrants entering the UK this last 12 months. That facts | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"They are all coming to rebuild the country make it great again!" In their own image | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"👎👎👎 What's your problem exactly, and why are you either too frightened or too stupid to put it into words? The OP has made a valid point, without any racism or Islamaphobic comment. There's obviously a problem with the number of people crossing the channel on boats, why can it not be properly discussed? I wondered how long it would take for someone to make the "boats" comment on the thread started with cherry-picked data . There's no cherry picking about the highest number of illegal immigrants entering the UK this last 12 months. That facts "👎👎👎 | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"👎👎👎 What's your problem exactly, and why are you either too frightened or too stupid to put it into words? The OP has made a valid point, without any racism or Islamaphobic comment. There's obviously a problem with the number of people crossing the channel on boats, why can it not be properly discussed? I wondered how long it would take for someone to make the "boats" comment on the thread started with cherry-picked data . There's no cherry picking about the highest number of illegal immigrants entering the UK this last 12 months. That facts "I have alternative facts from the Office for National Statistics. I couldn’t find a definitive figure exactly for September 2024 → September 2025 migration/net migration in the UK. The published statistics I located cover periods ending at December 2024, June 2024, etc. Here are the closest data points; if you like, I can try to estimate or see if newer provisional data has been released. ⸻ 🔍 Relevant figures (September 2024 to December 2024 etc.) • Long-term net migration for the UK for the year ending December 2024 is provisionally estimated at 431,000, down from about 860,000 for the previous year.  • Long-term immigration in that period (YE December 2024) is ~948,000, with about 517,000 emigrating.  • For the year ending June 2024, net migration was about 728,000.  | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"They are all coming to rebuild the country make it great again! In their own image " Just like we do when we migrate into other countries. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"👎👎👎 What's your problem exactly, and why are you either too frightened or too stupid to put it into words? The OP has made a valid point, without any racism or Islamaphobic comment. There's obviously a problem with the number of people crossing the channel on boats, why can it not be properly discussed? I wondered how long it would take for someone to make the "boats" comment on the thread started with cherry-picked data . There's no cherry picking about the highest number of illegal immigrants entering the UK this last 12 months. That facts
I have alternative facts from the Office for National Statistics.
I couldn’t find a definitive figure exactly for September 2024 → September 2025 migration/net migration in the UK. The published statistics I located cover periods ending at December 2024, June 2024, etc. Here are the closest data points; if you like, I can try to estimate or see if newer provisional data has been released.
⸻
🔍 Relevant figures (September 2024 to December 2024 etc.)
• Long-term net migration for the UK for the year ending December 2024 is provisionally estimated at 431,000, down from about 860,000 for the previous year. 
• Long-term immigration in that period (YE December 2024) is ~948,000, with about 517,000 emigrating. 
• For the year ending June 2024, net migration was about 728,000. 
". Ha ha boy can't be serious? Your actually suggesting the illegal boat immigrants have not reached record figures? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" . Ha ha boy can't be serious? Your actually suggesting the illegal boat immigrants have not reached record figures?" No one is suggesting that. But the people arriving in boats are a tiny fraction of the immigrants coming into the country. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"👎👎👎 What's your problem exactly, and why are you either too frightened or too stupid to put it into words? The OP has made a valid point, without any racism or Islamaphobic comment. There's obviously a problem with the number of people crossing the channel on boats, why can it not be properly discussed? I wondered how long it would take for someone to make the "boats" comment on the thread started with cherry-picked data . There's no cherry picking about the highest number of illegal immigrants entering the UK this last 12 months. That facts
I have alternative facts from the Office for National Statistics.
I couldn’t find a definitive figure exactly for September 2024 → September 2025 migration/net migration in the UK. The published statistics I located cover periods ending at December 2024, June 2024, etc. Here are the closest data points; if you like, I can try to estimate or see if newer provisional data has been released.
⸻
🔍 Relevant figures (September 2024 to December 2024 etc.)
• Long-term net migration for the UK for the year ending December 2024 is provisionally estimated at 431,000, down from about 860,000 for the previous year. 
• Long-term immigration in that period (YE December 2024) is ~948,000, with about 517,000 emigrating. 
• For the year ending June 2024, net migration was about 728,000. 
. Ha ha boy can't be serious? Your actually suggesting the illegal boat immigrants have not reached record figures?"A) not my figures, from the Office of National Statistics, which I already mentioned. B) “illegal boat immigrants” have not actually reached record figures. The numbers were higher under the Conservatives. C) You’re attempt at belittling would improve in direct proportion to your ability to use appropriate grammar and words - it’s “you’re” not “your”. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"They are all coming to rebuild the country make it great again! In their own image Just like we do when we migrate into other countries. " Yes ... Some add value ... Others detract Third World values tend to detract from First World societies. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"They are all coming to rebuild the country make it great again! In their own image Just like we do when we migrate into other countries. Yes ... Some add value ... Others detract Third World values tend to detract from First World societies. " If there were such things as “Third World Values” absolutely it would be a point worth mulling over. But as it is, your statement is just borne of ignorance and prejudice and has very little by way of substance behind it. Some sort of superiority complex maybe, but that’s about it. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"👎👎👎 What's your problem exactly, and why are you either too frightened or too stupid to put it into words? The OP has made a valid point, without any racism or Islamaphobic comment. There's obviously a problem with the number of people crossing the channel on boats, why can it not be properly discussed? I wondered how long it would take for someone to make the "boats" comment on the thread started with cherry-picked data . There's no cherry picking about the highest number of illegal immigrants entering the UK this last 12 months. That facts
I have alternative facts from the Office for National Statistics.
I couldn’t find a definitive figure exactly for September 2024 → September 2025 migration/net migration in the UK. The published statistics I located cover periods ending at December 2024, June 2024, etc. Here are the closest data points; if you like, I can try to estimate or see if newer provisional data has been released.
⸻
🔍 Relevant figures (September 2024 to December 2024 etc.)
• Long-term net migration for the UK for the year ending December 2024 is provisionally estimated at 431,000, down from about 860,000 for the previous year. 
• Long-term immigration in that period (YE December 2024) is ~948,000, with about 517,000 emigrating. 
• For the year ending June 2024, net migration was about 728,000. 
. Ha ha boy can't be serious? Your actually suggesting the illegal boat immigrants have not reached record figures?
A) not my figures, from the Office of National Statistics, which I already mentioned.
B) “illegal boat immigrants” have not actually reached record figures. The numbers were higher under the Conservatives.
C) You’re attempt at belittling would improve in direct proportion to your ability to use appropriate grammar and words - it’s “you’re” not “your”. ". This is a fabguy thread. Not a dictionary. Don't be silly. Your figures are misleading. Illegal immigration in the last 12 months is at record levels that a fact. tories were in 14 years. Not 14 months. You can argue all you like. But the millions in the country know the figures. As do all the news outlets etc etc. face up to reality. The UK can not cope with the rising problem. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"👎👎👎 What's your problem exactly, and why are you either too frightened or too stupid to put it into words? The OP has made a valid point, without any racism or Islamaphobic comment. There's obviously a problem with the number of people crossing the channel on boats, why can it not be properly discussed? I wondered how long it would take for someone to make the "boats" comment on the thread started with cherry-picked data . There's no cherry picking about the highest number of illegal immigrants entering the UK this last 12 months. That facts
I have alternative facts from the Office for National Statistics.
I couldn’t find a definitive figure exactly for September 2024 → September 2025 migration/net migration in the UK. The published statistics I located cover periods ending at December 2024, June 2024, etc. Here are the closest data points; if you like, I can try to estimate or see if newer provisional data has been released.
⸻
🔍 Relevant figures (September 2024 to December 2024 etc.)
• Long-term net migration for the UK for the year ending December 2024 is provisionally estimated at 431,000, down from about 860,000 for the previous year. 
• Long-term immigration in that period (YE December 2024) is ~948,000, with about 517,000 emigrating. 
• For the year ending June 2024, net migration was about 728,000. 
. Ha ha boy can't be serious? Your actually suggesting the illegal boat immigrants have not reached record figures?
A) not my figures, from the Office of National Statistics, which I already mentioned.
B) “illegal boat immigrants” have not actually reached record figures. The numbers were higher under the Conservatives.
C) You’re attempt at belittling would improve in direct proportion to your ability to use appropriate grammar and words - it’s “you’re” not “your”. . This is a fabguy thread. Not a dictionary. Don't be silly. Your figures are misleading. Illegal immigration in the last 12 months is at record levels that a fact. tories were in 14 years. Not 14 months. You can argue all you like. But the millions in the country know the figures. As do all the news outlets etc etc. face up to reality. The UK can not cope with the rising problem."You approach here is anything which contradicts you is wrong and everyone knows these mythical figures that no one seems to be able to come up with so they must be correct? Despite many of the news outlets contradicting you and those who don’t are paid for by people who have a vested interest in getting people like you worked up and dissatisfied? It seems that critical thinking is not a universal trait? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"👎👎👎 What's your problem exactly, and why are you either too frightened or too stupid to put it into words? The OP has made a valid point, without any racism or Islamaphobic comment. There's obviously a problem with the number of people crossing the channel on boats, why can it not be properly discussed? I wondered how long it would take for someone to make the "boats" comment on the thread started with cherry-picked data . There's no cherry picking about the highest number of illegal immigrants entering the UK this last 12 months. That facts
I have alternative facts from the Office for National Statistics.
I couldn’t find a definitive figure exactly for September 2024 → September 2025 migration/net migration in the UK. The published statistics I located cover periods ending at December 2024, June 2024, etc. Here are the closest data points; if you like, I can try to estimate or see if newer provisional data has been released.
⸻
🔍 Relevant figures (September 2024 to December 2024 etc.)
• Long-term net migration for the UK for the year ending December 2024 is provisionally estimated at 431,000, down from about 860,000 for the previous year. 
• Long-term immigration in that period (YE December 2024) is ~948,000, with about 517,000 emigrating. 
• For the year ending June 2024, net migration was about 728,000. 
. Ha ha boy can't be serious? Your actually suggesting the illegal boat immigrants have not reached record figures?
A) not my figures, from the Office of National Statistics, which I already mentioned.
B) “illegal boat immigrants” have not actually reached record figures. The numbers were higher under the Conservatives.
C) You’re attempt at belittling would improve in direct proportion to your ability to use appropriate grammar and words - it’s “you’re” not “your”. . This is a fabguy thread. Not a dictionary. Don't be silly. Your figures are misleading. Illegal immigration in the last 12 months is at record levels that a fact. tories were in 14 years. Not 14 months. You can argue all you like. But the millions in the country know the figures. As do all the news outlets etc etc. face up to reality. The UK can not cope with the rising problem.
You approach here is anything which contradicts you is wrong and everyone knows these mythical figures that no one seems to be able to come up with so they must be correct?
Despite many of the news outlets contradicting you and those who don’t are paid for by people who have a vested interest in getting people like you worked up and dissatisfied?
It seems that critical thinking is not a universal trait?". I can not believe there are still a few like you labouring this nonsense. Everyone knows in the UK how serious the rising illegal immigrants numbers have got.Our lack of housing, doctors, employment, etc etc we currently have in the UK. People moving from a safe country, across the Channel to the UK has to stop. The record figures accepted by all needs to be addressed for the welfare and safety of all. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Dave, your lies make the baby Jesus cry. " . Usual empty rant from you | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Dave, your lies make the baby Jesus cry. " How would a baby understand that they are lies? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Dave, your lies make the baby Jesus cry. . Usual empty rant from you" You have a strange definition of rant. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Illegal immigration do not count towards the population. It's the immigrants to blame for anything ill to this country, it is the Billionaires who brainwash the populous. The same billionaires who do not pay tax to the UK. " Can you name a billionaire who lives in this country who does not pay any tax here? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Figures released by the Home Office. In one year 200,000 house built - 800,000 people added to the population almost all by immigration. Whatever your politics are, surely we can all agree that this is obviously unsustainable " It's not unusual to have 4 people living in a house | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Why don't the people who are unhappy about the UK immigration situation go and live somewhere else?" Because Brexit destroyed much of our chances to live in Spain or any other EU country. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Send in the army and sink the buggers." Duh | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Send in the army and sink the buggers." Another day here on Normal Island where people advocate for state sponsored murder. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"We should only be taking those in who have qualifications to do a decent job, can speak fluent English and have enough money to support themselves.. Let the illegals stay in France, not our problem and a drain on the taxpayers." We could when we were still in the EU, but now the smart folk voted to leave.  | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"👎👎👎 What's your problem exactly, and why are you either too frightened or too stupid to put it into words? The OP has made a valid point, without any racism or Islamaphobic comment. There's obviously a problem with the number of people crossing the channel on boats, why can it not be properly discussed? I wondered how long it would take for someone to make the "boats" comment on the thread started with cherry-picked data . There's no cherry picking about the highest number of illegal immigrants entering the UK this last 12 months. That facts
I have alternative facts from the Office for National Statistics.
I couldn’t find a definitive figure exactly for September 2024 → September 2025 migration/net migration in the UK. The published statistics I located cover periods ending at December 2024, June 2024, etc. Here are the closest data points; if you like, I can try to estimate or see if newer provisional data has been released.
⸻
🔍 Relevant figures (September 2024 to December 2024 etc.)
• Long-term net migration for the UK for the year ending December 2024 is provisionally estimated at 431,000, down from about 860,000 for the previous year. 
• Long-term immigration in that period (YE December 2024) is ~948,000, with about 517,000 emigrating. 
• For the year ending June 2024, net migration was about 728,000. 
. Ha ha boy can't be serious? Your actually suggesting the illegal boat immigrants have not reached record figures?
A) not my figures, from the Office of National Statistics, which I already mentioned.
B) “illegal boat immigrants” have not actually reached record figures. The numbers were higher under the Conservatives.
C) You’re attempt at belittling would improve in direct proportion to your ability to use appropriate grammar and words - it’s “you’re” not “your”. . This is a fabguy thread. Not a dictionary. Don't be silly. Your figures are misleading. Illegal immigration in the last 12 months is at record levels that a fact. tories were in 14 years. Not 14 months. You can argue all you like. But the millions in the country know the figures. As do all the news outlets etc etc. face up to reality. The UK can not cope with the rising problem.
You approach here is anything which contradicts you is wrong and everyone knows these mythical figures that no one seems to be able to come up with so they must be correct?
Despite many of the news outlets contradicting you and those who don’t are paid for by people who have a vested interest in getting people like you worked up and dissatisfied?
It seems that critical thinking is not a universal trait?. I can not believe there are still a few like you labouring this nonsense. Everyone knows in the UK how serious the rising illegal immigrants numbers have got.Our lack of housing, doctors, employment, etc etc we currently have in the UK. People moving from a safe country, across the Channel to the UK has to stop.
The record figures accepted by all needs to be addressed for the welfare and safety of all."👇👇👇👇👇 | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Dave, your lies make the baby Jesus cry. . Usual empty rant from you You have a strange definition of rant. " . Check out the figures on immigration watch site. These are figures given out by the Home office. Confirm all that I have said. Problem is a few on here live a sheltered life with no idea what going on in Uk. Our organizations are out nightly, esp the weekends, at night trying to help all the homeless on the homeless on the streets. People born in UK who the authorities do not have the resources to deal with. Ex servicemen, many suffering mental illness, teenagers who fled abuse, Disabled, Divorced people who have lost everything. And many other reasons. Bloody heartbreaking to know in most cases, all we can do is to offer limited comfort, blankets and hot food. Pathetic state of our Country. These numbers are increasing. And find Millions to house people who leave a safe country to come here. Our own we offer nothing | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Illegal immigration do not count towards the population. It's the immigrants to blame for anything ill to this country, it is the Billionaires who brainwash the populous. The same billionaires who do not pay tax to the UK. Can you name a billionaire who lives in this country who does not pay any tax here?" There is the issue. Whilst it is known that many super rich individuals are in the Billionaire status, even the HMRC cannot find their tax paid to or not to the UK. So it can only be an avoidance of tax paid. Lord Cameron keeps his money in Panama. Jersey Tice in Gibraltar, Rees Mogg too. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Figures released by the Home Office. In one year 200,000 house built - 800,000 people added to the population almost all by immigration. Whatever your politics are, surely we can all agree that this is obviously unsustainable " Absolutely sustainable if there is house building to match, indeed if they are all working age and allowed to contribute to the economy that level of immigration (net 400k) is vital to support the aging UK population. What isn't sustainable is creating a climate of fear or inhospitality that means people wish to leave - especially as it'll be the most economically viable, who contribute the most, who will be the first to go. The biggest issue with immigration is the processing speed for asylum claims and the clambering to make eye catching anti immigrant policy rather than addressing the underlying problems (which would be unpopular with voters). | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Figures released by the Home Office. In one year 200,000 house built - 800,000 people added to the population almost all by immigration. Whatever your politics are, surely we can all agree that this is obviously unsustainable Absolutely sustainable if there is house building to match, indeed if they are all working age and allowed to contribute to the economy that level of immigration (net 400k) is vital to support the aging UK population. What isn't sustainable is creating a climate of fear or inhospitality that means people wish to leave - especially as it'll be the most economically viable, who contribute the most, who will be the first to go. The biggest issue with immigration is the processing speed for asylum claims and the clambering to make eye catching anti immigrant policy rather than addressing the underlying problems (which would be unpopular with voters)." . To suggest the illegal immigration in the UK is sustainable is utterly wrong. We are carving up our agricultural land at an a alarming rate. We now don't have sufficient resources to feed our own people in UK. And this situation is not justified. Illegal immigrants by definition have no right to be in UK. Those who leave a safe country to risk their lives and others to illegally enter the UK should be stopped. Not housed | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Figures released by the Home Office. In one year 200,000 house built - 800,000 people added to the population almost all by immigration. Whatever your politics are, surely we can all agree that this is obviously unsustainable Absolutely sustainable if there is house building to match, indeed if they are all working age and allowed to contribute to the economy that level of immigration (net 400k) is vital to support the aging UK population. What isn't sustainable is creating a climate of fear or inhospitality that means people wish to leave - especially as it'll be the most economically viable, who contribute the most, who will be the first to go. The biggest issue with immigration is the processing speed for asylum claims and the clambering to make eye catching anti immigrant policy rather than addressing the underlying problems (which would be unpopular with voters).. To suggest the illegal immigration in the UK is sustainable is utterly wrong. We are carving up our agricultural land at an a alarming rate. We now don't have sufficient resources to feed our own people in UK. And this situation is not justified. Illegal immigrants by definition have no right to be in UK. Those who leave a safe country to risk their lives and others to illegally enter the UK should be stopped. Not housed" Where did you get the “carving up our agricultural land” line from? It’s good insofar as it’s a new one, but it’s nonsense insofar as it has no basis in reality. We can produce enough food in this country, but we choose not to. That’s nothing to do with house building. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Figures released by the Home Office. In one year 200,000 house built - 800,000 people added to the population almost all by immigration. Whatever your politics are, surely we can all agree that this is obviously unsustainable Absolutely sustainable if there is house building to match, indeed if they are all working age and allowed to contribute to the economy that level of immigration (net 400k) is vital to support the aging UK population. What isn't sustainable is creating a climate of fear or inhospitality that means people wish to leave - especially as it'll be the most economically viable, who contribute the most, who will be the first to go. The biggest issue with immigration is the processing speed for asylum claims and the clambering to make eye catching anti immigrant policy rather than addressing the underlying problems (which would be unpopular with voters).. To suggest the illegal immigration in the UK is sustainable is utterly wrong. We are carving up our agricultural land at an a alarming rate. We now don't have sufficient resources to feed our own people in UK. And this situation is not justified. Illegal immigrants by definition have no right to be in UK. Those who leave a safe country to risk their lives and others to illegally enter the UK should be stopped. Not housed" Where did you nick this reply from? It's not littered with your usual spelling and grammatical errors. It's always a dead giveaway when you don't begin your post with a full stop.  | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Figures released by the Home Office. In one year 200,000 house built - 800,000 people added to the population almost all by immigration. Whatever your politics are, surely we can all agree that this is obviously unsustainable Absolutely sustainable if there is house building to match, indeed if they are all working age and allowed to contribute to the economy that level of immigration (net 400k) is vital to support the aging UK population. What isn't sustainable is creating a climate of fear or inhospitality that means people wish to leave - especially as it'll be the most economically viable, who contribute the most, who will be the first to go. The biggest issue with immigration is the processing speed for asylum claims and the clambering to make eye catching anti immigrant policy rather than addressing the underlying problems (which would be unpopular with voters).. To suggest the illegal immigration in the UK is sustainable is utterly wrong. We are carving up our agricultural land at an a alarming rate. We now don't have sufficient resources to feed our own people in UK. And this situation is not justified. Illegal immigrants by definition have no right to be in UK. Those who leave a safe country to risk their lives and others to illegally enter the UK should be stopped. Not housed" There is no such thing as an "illegal immigrant" as there is a legal right to claim asylum. The travesty is the asylum backlog and that people spend years and years unable to work legally but on unliveable benefits whilst waiting for processing. Spend money on this, improve processing, reduce numbers - get those who have a valid claim working legally and contributing and remove those who do not. This then reduces the amount spent on hotels or whatever else. If it takes an initial amnesty, or a significant spend to resolve the initial issue sobeit - but we know they won't do that as it would be a vote loser, despite achieving what people actually want, less wastage and less desperate people (through no fault of their own) unable to work legally or live with the dignity they deserve. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Figures released by the Home Office. In one year 200,000 house built - 800,000 people added to the population almost all by immigration. Whatever your politics are, surely we can all agree that this is obviously unsustainable Absolutely sustainable if there is house building to match, indeed if they are all working age and allowed to contribute to the economy that level of immigration (net 400k) is vital to support the aging UK population. What isn't sustainable is creating a climate of fear or inhospitality that means people wish to leave - especially as it'll be the most economically viable, who contribute the most, who will be the first to go. The biggest issue with immigration is the processing speed for asylum claims and the clambering to make eye catching anti immigrant policy rather than addressing the underlying problems (which would be unpopular with voters).. To suggest the illegal immigration in the UK is sustainable is utterly wrong. We are carving up our agricultural land at an a alarming rate. We now don't have sufficient resources to feed our own people in UK. And this situation is not justified. Illegal immigrants by definition have no right to be in UK. Those who leave a safe country to risk their lives and others to illegally enter the UK should be stopped. Not housed Where did you nick this reply from? It's not littered with your usual spelling and grammatical errors. It's always a dead giveaway when you don't begin your post with a full stop. ". When you result to criticising grammar on what is a fabguy discussion, it becomes obvious you have lost the discussion. I rest my case 🙂 | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Figures released by the Home Office. In one year 200,000 house built - 800,000 people added to the population almost all by immigration. Whatever your politics are, surely we can all agree that this is obviously unsustainable Absolutely sustainable if there is house building to match, indeed if they are all working age and allowed to contribute to the economy that level of immigration (net 400k) is vital to support the aging UK population. What isn't sustainable is creating a climate of fear or inhospitality that means people wish to leave - especially as it'll be the most economically viable, who contribute the most, who will be the first to go. The biggest issue with immigration is the processing speed for asylum claims and the clambering to make eye catching anti immigrant policy rather than addressing the underlying problems (which would be unpopular with voters).. To suggest the illegal immigration in the UK is sustainable is utterly wrong. We are carving up our agricultural land at an a alarming rate. We now don't have sufficient resources to feed our own people in UK. And this situation is not justified. Illegal immigrants by definition have no right to be in UK. Those who leave a safe country to risk their lives and others to illegally enter the UK should be stopped. Not housed Where did you nick this reply from? It's not littered with your usual spelling and grammatical errors. It's always a dead giveaway when you don't begin your post with a full stop. . When you result to criticising grammar on what is a fabguy discussion, it becomes obvious you have lost the discussion. I rest my case 🙂"👎👎👎 | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
". When you result to criticising grammar on what is a fabguy discussion, it becomes obvious you have lost the discussion. I rest my case 🙂" Could the same be said for when you need to ignore all points made and just change the subject? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Figures released by the Home Office. In one year 200,000 house built - 800,000 people added to the population almost all by immigration. Whatever your politics are, surely we can all agree that this is obviously unsustainable Absolutely sustainable if there is house building to match, indeed if they are all working age and allowed to contribute to the economy that level of immigration (net 400k) is vital to support the aging UK population. What isn't sustainable is creating a climate of fear or inhospitality that means people wish to leave - especially as it'll be the most economically viable, who contribute the most, who will be the first to go. The biggest issue with immigration is the processing speed for asylum claims and the clambering to make eye catching anti immigrant policy rather than addressing the underlying problems (which would be unpopular with voters).. To suggest the illegal immigration in the UK is sustainable is utterly wrong. We are carving up our agricultural land at an a alarming rate. We now don't have sufficient resources to feed our own people in UK. And this situation is not justified. Illegal immigrants by definition have no right to be in UK. Those who leave a safe country to risk their lives and others to illegally enter the UK should be stopped. Not housed Where did you get the “carving up our agricultural land” line from? It’s good insofar as it’s a new one, but it’s nonsense insofar as it has no basis in reality. We can produce enough food in this country, but we choose not to. That’s nothing to do with house building." . Well in our small town alone we have carved up green land to build 4000 homes. And that is happening in every dwelling in the UK. You need to live in the rural area to understand the devastation this is causing to our environment. This is not a new one as you say. It's all part of the ongoing pressure being created by over population of our small island. And those who are suffering because of it. But of course on here they pathetically place it all on the few billionaires who live here in the uk | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Figures released by the Home Office. In one year 200,000 house built - 800,000 people added to the population almost all by immigration. Whatever your politics are, surely we can all agree that this is obviously unsustainable Absolutely sustainable if there is house building to match, indeed if they are all working age and allowed to contribute to the economy that level of immigration (net 400k) is vital to support the aging UK population. What isn't sustainable is creating a climate of fear or inhospitality that means people wish to leave - especially as it'll be the most economically viable, who contribute the most, who will be the first to go. The biggest issue with immigration is the processing speed for asylum claims and the clambering to make eye catching anti immigrant policy rather than addressing the underlying problems (which would be unpopular with voters).. To suggest the illegal immigration in the UK is sustainable is utterly wrong. We are carving up our agricultural land at an a alarming rate. We now don't have sufficient resources to feed our own people in UK. And this situation is not justified. Illegal immigrants by definition have no right to be in UK. Those who leave a safe country to risk their lives and others to illegally enter the UK should be stopped. Not housed Where did you nick this reply from? It's not littered with your usual spelling and grammatical errors. It's always a dead giveaway when you don't begin your post with a full stop. . When you result to criticising grammar on what is a fabguy discussion, it becomes obvious you have lost the discussion. I rest my case 🙂"I'm saying your reply was quite clearly st0len (had to work around the filter there) from elsewhere but you seem unwilling to address that for some reason. Is it your long and inglorious history of plagiarism? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Figures released by the Home Office. In one year 200,000 house built - 800,000 people added to the population almost all by immigration. Whatever your politics are, surely we can all agree that this is obviously unsustainable Absolutely sustainable if there is house building to match, indeed if they are all working age and allowed to contribute to the economy that level of immigration (net 400k) is vital to support the aging UK population. What isn't sustainable is creating a climate of fear or inhospitality that means people wish to leave - especially as it'll be the most economically viable, who contribute the most, who will be the first to go. The biggest issue with immigration is the processing speed for asylum claims and the clambering to make eye catching anti immigrant policy rather than addressing the underlying problems (which would be unpopular with voters).. To suggest the illegal immigration in the UK is sustainable is utterly wrong. We are carving up our agricultural land at an a alarming rate. We now don't have sufficient resources to feed our own people in UK. And this situation is not justified. Illegal immigrants by definition have no right to be in UK. Those who leave a safe country to risk their lives and others to illegally enter the UK should be stopped. Not housed Where did you get the “carving up our agricultural land” line from? It’s good insofar as it’s a new one, but it’s nonsense insofar as it has no basis in reality. We can produce enough food in this country, but we choose not to. That’s nothing to do with house building.. Well in our small town alone we have carved up green land to build 4000 homes. And that is happening in every dwelling in the UK. You need to live in the rural area to understand the devastation this is causing to our environment. This is not a new one as you say. It's all part of the ongoing pressure being created by over population of our small island. And those who are suffering because of it. But of course on here they pathetically place it all on the few billionaires who live here in the uk " 🤣 My wife’s family is all from Wiltshire, I know the area well and all I can see is that you have a very very narrow view of what is happening in the country as a whole. Because it is happening in Melksham you assume it is the same everywhere. What seems to be at the root of your complaint is the same old nimbyism that has rampantly ravaged this country for centuries. Something must be done, just not in my back yard please. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Figures released by the Home Office. In one year 200,000 house built - 800,000 people added to the population almost all by immigration. Whatever your politics are, surely we can all agree that this is obviously unsustainable Absolutely sustainable if there is house building to match, indeed if they are all working age and allowed to contribute to the economy that level of immigration (net 400k) is vital to support the aging UK population. What isn't sustainable is creating a climate of fear or inhospitality that means people wish to leave - especially as it'll be the most economically viable, who contribute the most, who will be the first to go. The biggest issue with immigration is the processing speed for asylum claims and the clambering to make eye catching anti immigrant policy rather than addressing the underlying problems (which would be unpopular with voters).. To suggest the illegal immigration in the UK is sustainable is utterly wrong. We are carving up our agricultural land at an a alarming rate. We now don't have sufficient resources to feed our own people in UK. And this situation is not justified. Illegal immigrants by definition have no right to be in UK. Those who leave a safe country to risk their lives and others to illegally enter the UK should be stopped. Not housed Where did you get the “carving up our agricultural land” line from? It’s good insofar as it’s a new one, but it’s nonsense insofar as it has no basis in reality. We can produce enough food in this country, but we choose not to. That’s nothing to do with house building.. Well in our small town alone we have carved up green land to build 4000 homes. And that is happening in every dwelling in the UK. You need to live in the rural area to understand the devastation this is causing to our environment. This is not a new one as you say. It's all part of the ongoing pressure being created by over population of our small island. And those who are suffering because of it. But of course on here they pathetically place it all on the few billionaires who live here in the uk " Perhaps we could carve up your ABSOLUTELY MASSIVE GARDEN? That should be good for a few housing estates.  | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Figures released by the Home Office. In one year 200,000 house built - 800,000 people added to the population almost all by immigration. Whatever your politics are, surely we can all agree that this is obviously unsustainable Absolutely sustainable if there is house building to match, indeed if they are all working age and allowed to contribute to the economy that level of immigration (net 400k) is vital to support the aging UK population. What isn't sustainable is creating a climate of fear or inhospitality that means people wish to leave - especially as it'll be the most economically viable, who contribute the most, who will be the first to go. The biggest issue with immigration is the processing speed for asylum claims and the clambering to make eye catching anti immigrant policy rather than addressing the underlying problems (which would be unpopular with voters).. To suggest the illegal immigration in the UK is sustainable is utterly wrong. We are carving up our agricultural land at an a alarming rate. We now don't have sufficient resources to feed our own people in UK. And this situation is not justified. Illegal immigrants by definition have no right to be in UK. Those who leave a safe country to risk their lives and others to illegally enter the UK should be stopped. Not housed Where did you get the “carving up our agricultural land” line from? It’s good insofar as it’s a new one, but it’s nonsense insofar as it has no basis in reality. We can produce enough food in this country, but we choose not to. That’s nothing to do with house building.. Well in our small town alone we have carved up green land to build 4000 homes. And that is happening in every dwelling in the UK. You need to live in the rural area to understand the devastation this is causing to our environment. This is not a new one as you say. It's all part of the ongoing pressure being created by over population of our small island. And those who are suffering because of it. But of course on here they pathetically place it all on the few billionaires who live here in the uk Perhaps we could carve up your ABSOLUTELY MASSIVE GARDEN? That should be good for a few housing estates. "Not is his back yard!!! | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Figures released by the Home Office. In one year 200,000 house built - 800,000 people added to the population almost all by immigration. Whatever your politics are, surely we can all agree that this is obviously unsustainable Absolutely sustainable if there is house building to match, indeed if they are all working age and allowed to contribute to the economy that level of immigration (net 400k) is vital to support the aging UK population. What isn't sustainable is creating a climate of fear or inhospitality that means people wish to leave - especially as it'll be the most economically viable, who contribute the most, who will be the first to go. The biggest issue with immigration is the processing speed for asylum claims and the clambering to make eye catching anti immigrant policy rather than addressing the underlying problems (which would be unpopular with voters).. To suggest the illegal immigration in the UK is sustainable is utterly wrong. We are carving up our agricultural land at an a alarming rate. We now don't have sufficient resources to feed our own people in UK. And this situation is not justified. Illegal immigrants by definition have no right to be in UK. Those who leave a safe country to risk their lives and others to illegally enter the UK should be stopped. Not housed Where did you get the “carving up our agricultural land” line from? It’s good insofar as it’s a new one, but it’s nonsense insofar as it has no basis in reality. We can produce enough food in this country, but we choose not to. That’s nothing to do with house building.. Well in our small town alone we have carved up green land to build 4000 homes. And that is happening in every dwelling in the UK. You need to live in the rural area to understand the devastation this is causing to our environment. This is not a new one as you say. It's all part of the ongoing pressure being created by over population of our small island. And those who are suffering because of it. But of course on here they pathetically place it all on the few billionaires who live here in the uk Perhaps we could carve up your ABSOLUTELY MASSIVE GARDEN? That should be good for a few housing estates.
Not is his back yard!!!"He's still upset that whilst Dave's Garden East stayed Tory, Dave's Garden West went to Labour in the general election last year. That's what happens when you let the staff vote. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
") Not is his back yard!!! He's still upset that whilst Dave's Garden East stayed Tory, Dave's Garden West went to Labour in the general election last year. That's what happens when you let the staff vote." Commoners shouldn’t be allowed a voice, they upset everything. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Dave, your lies make the baby Jesus cry. How would a baby understand that they are lies?" 
Omnipotent baby? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Illegal immigration do not count towards the population. It's the immigrants to blame for anything ill to this country, it is the Billionaires who brainwash the populous. The same billionaires who do not pay tax to the UK. Can you name a billionaire who lives in this country who does not pay any tax here?" I can name a millionaire who spreads these lies and works up the population to a froth but lives in Dubai…. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Figures released by the Home Office. In one year 200,000 house built - 800,000 people added to the population almost all by immigration. Whatever your politics are, surely we can all agree that this is obviously unsustainable Absolutely sustainable if there is house building to match, indeed if they are all working age and allowed to contribute to the economy that level of immigration (net 400k) is vital to support the aging UK population. What isn't sustainable is creating a climate of fear or inhospitality that means people wish to leave - especially as it'll be the most economically viable, who contribute the most, who will be the first to go. The biggest issue with immigration is the processing speed for asylum claims and the clambering to make eye catching anti immigrant policy rather than addressing the underlying problems (which would be unpopular with voters)." And also clear the muddied waters as to who is central to the situation.. turkeys would not vote for Christmas, governments are not going to introduce policies that expose their mistakes..under investment, giving tax bribes to the few instead of investing for the many, selling off council houses and making little allowance for rebuilding etcetc | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Net migration in 2024 was 431,000 a decrease of 50%" Still does not make it acceptable by any stretch . | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Net migration in 2024 was 431,000 a decrease of 50% Still does not make it acceptable by any stretch ." What is acceptable? You didn’t moan when the tories were letting in twice as many. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Illegal immigration do not count towards the population. It's the immigrants to blame for anything ill to this country, it is the Billionaires who brainwash the populous. The same billionaires who do not pay tax to the UK. Can you name a billionaire who lives in this country who does not pay any tax here? I can name a millionaire who spreads these lies and works up the population to a froth but lives in Dubai…." Does it rhyme with Dice? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Net migration in 2024 was 431,000 a decrease of 50% Still does not make it acceptable by any stretch . What is acceptable? You didn’t moan when the tories were letting in twice as many." How do you know he didn’t moan , when the “Tories were letting twice as many in” | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Figures released by the Home Office. In one year 200,000 house built - 800,000 people added to the population almost all by immigration. Whatever your politics are, surely we can all agree that this is obviously unsustainable " I totally agree with that, immigration has now become out of hand. We are accepting way too many legally and illegally, and they're taking up houses like there's no tomorrow. We have our own British citizens living on the streets in caravans and tents, and you get these, immigration taking full advantage of something which they haven't earned or deserve. if we stop providing all these luxuries to immigrants, they will stop coming to the UK. Look at all our foreign neighbours. They are now beginning to do this, and their immigration count has reduced dramatically. Yes, you can call me a racist. Logically, I am right, and I am not a racist. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Net migration in 2024 was 431,000 a decrease of 50% Still does not make it acceptable by any stretch . What is acceptable? You didn’t moan when the tories were letting in twice as many." I did indeed , massively ,i started moaning when Blair started opening the doors . Before then it was never really a problem with numbers . | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Illegal immigration do not count towards the population. It's the immigrants to blame for anything ill to this country, it is the Billionaires who brainwash the populous. The same billionaires who do not pay tax to the UK. Can you name a billionaire who lives in this country who does not pay any tax here? I can name a millionaire who spreads these lies and works up the population to a froth but lives in Dubai…. Does it rhyme with Dice?" Maaaaybeee. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Net migration in 2024 was 431,000 a decrease of 50% Still does not make it acceptable by any stretch . What is acceptable? You didn’t moan when the tories were letting in twice as many. How do you know he didn’t moan , when the “Tories were letting twice as many in” " Because I was on the forum and the moaning wasn’t happening 🤣 | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"The reality is a load of woke supporters who when push comes to shove won’t offer a room These are mainly economic migrants and no one blames them for wanting a better life But they choose the UK as the softest touch offering the easiest benefits system. We need a deterrent and a government with the balls to say know it’s a very simple economics decision. " The Guardian says differently: The UK Home Office has in the past made statements claiming that a large percentage (e.g. ~70%) of small boat arrivals are “effectively economic migrants.” But investigations found that the Home Office did not have reliable evidence to support that claim.  Where’s your evidence? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"The reality is a load of woke supporters who when push comes to shove won’t offer a room These are mainly economic migrants and no one blames them for wanting a better life But they choose the UK as the softest touch offering the easiest benefits system. We need a deterrent and a government with the balls to say know it’s a very simple economics decision. " The London Standard says: “a YouGov poll in 2015 asked Londoners why migrants in Calais prefer the UK over France; 64% thought it was because the UK had a more generous welfare/benefits system. But that is what people think, not actual data on migrants’ motivations. “ Where’s your source for the evidence to back up your claim (get the pun?) that benefits are easiest to get in the UK? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"The usual suspects trying to dominate the treads , bullying and insulting and questioning any body else’s views I see . So very fabguys . " I’m questioning the source of information. I found my sources. I haven’t insulted anyone. The word ‘bullying’ is very emotive and subjective. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Don't be snowflakes be robust, stand up have the courage of your convictions, stop bleating." I wish people would have the courage of their convictions and stop bleating. No one has come up with a sensible and acceptable solution. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"The usual suspects trying to dominate the treads , bullying and insulting and questioning any body else’s views I see . So very fabguys . " Zzzzzzzzz? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Stop all immigration legal and illegal and stop it now." Why? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Stop all immigration legal and illegal and stop it now. Why? " Because they are cunts | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Stop all immigration legal and illegal and stop it now. Why? Because they are cunts" Is that the best that you have as to why? No well thought out argument? No actual valid points? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" But they choose the UK as the softest touch offering the easiest benefits system. We need a deterrent and a government with the balls to say know it’s a very simple economics decision. " Except that isn’t true. The UKs benefits are middling at best. Many European countries offer far better packages for asylum seekers so whatever their reasons are, it’s not that. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" But they choose the UK as the softest touch offering the easiest benefits system. We need a deterrent and a government with the balls to say know it’s a very simple economics decision. Except that isn’t true. The UKs benefits are middling at best. Many European countries offer far better packages for asylum seekers so whatever their reasons are, it’s not that. " Also it is a long known fact that deterants do not work. If you need an example of this look at the death penalty in America and their murder rate compared to the westernised nations without the death penalty and theirs. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Stop all immigration legal and illegal and stop it now. Why? Because they are cunts" Why can’t you stop them, Tom? You have a lot going for you - you’re very adamant and determined, I bet. Surely it’s easy for you to stop a plastic boat of cunts? You’re not gonna let them just wade ashore, surely? You have faith in your beliefs and a wimp, you ain’t. You have a heart of steel - remember when I intimated that shooting ‘boat people’ was a bad idea? I said you wouldn’t want bits of dead babies washing up on the Essex beach and you said in reply: “your point is?”. That, my friend, is true British grit. You get out there, mate and put a stop to them. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
 | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"If you come here illegally get in a fuckin boat n go to jersey France n anywhere else if ya la Legally come here yes great I luv ya what ever ya religion etc if illegal fuck off weather ya black blue green or brown but respect out religion n flag "I don’t think they’d get into Jersey. As a Crown Dependency, I think it has it’s own immigration laws. Even the bloke who played Bergerac wasn’t allowed to live there. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"If you come here illegally get in a fuckin boat n go to jersey France n anywhere else if ya la Legally come here yes great I luv ya what ever ya religion etc if illegal fuck off weather ya black blue green or brown but respect out religion n flag "Yeah because no one in our community was ever deemed illegal for what they did. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Dave, your lies make the baby Jesus cry. . Usual empty rant from you You have a strange definition of rant. . Check out the figures on immigration watch site. These are figures given out by the Home office. Confirm all that I have said. Problem is a few on here live a sheltered life with no idea what going on in Uk. Our organizations are out nightly, esp the weekends, at night trying to help all the homeless on the homeless on the streets. People born in UK who the authorities do not have the resources to deal with. Ex servicemen, many suffering mental illness, teenagers who fled abuse, Disabled, Divorced people who have lost everything. And many other reasons. Bloody heartbreaking to know in most cases, all we can do is to offer limited comfort, blankets and hot food. Pathetic state of our Country. These numbers are increasing. And find Millions to house people who leave a safe country to come here. Our own we offer nothing" 👍👍👍👍 | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"👎👎👎 What's your problem exactly, and why are you either too frightened or too stupid to put it into words? The OP has made a valid point, without any racism or Islamaphobic comment. There's obviously a problem with the number of people crossing the channel on boats, why can it not be properly discussed?" Exactly ! There is some weird psychology around this topic. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Is OP suggesting 800000 immigrants need 800000 houses? In that case should every child born in UK automatically get a house of their own at birth? Seems a flawed argument to me" I am not suggesting anything of the sort. A very high percentage of immigrants are single men. The biggest demand for housing them will be one or, two, bed roomed, flats. The real average is most likely one property will be needed for each two migrants. but the over riding result of the scale of migration now is 'over population' The figure most often quoted is 7 million uplift in the last ten years. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Is OP suggesting 800000 immigrants need 800000 houses? In that case should every child born in UK automatically get a house of their own at birth? Seems a flawed argument to me I am not suggesting anything of the sort. A very high percentage of immigrants are single men. The biggest demand for housing them will be one or, two, bed roomed, flats. The real average is most likely one property will be needed for each two migrants. but the over riding result of the scale of migration now is 'over population' The figure most often quoted is 7 million uplift in the last ten years. " I'm starting in village in south Devon, half of the houses are holiday homes, second, third and even fourth homes. A good start would be filling these. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Is OP suggesting 800000 immigrants need 800000 houses? In that case should every child born in UK automatically get a house of their own at birth? Seems a flawed argument to me I am not suggesting anything of the sort. A very high percentage of immigrants are single men. The biggest demand for housing them will be one or, two, bed roomed, flats. The real average is most likely one property will be needed for each two migrants. but the over riding result of the scale of migration now is 'over population' The figure most often quoted is 7 million uplift in the last ten years. I'm starting in village in south Devon, half of the houses are holiday homes, second, third and even fourth homes. A good start would be filling these." Shhh, it’s the boat people to blame, not good landowning white people!!! | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Prior to 2000 the long term immigration rate was 30K ish per annum. It seemed sustainable. When the UK Labour government allowed large numbers of Eastern European migrants here, the government cited similar numbers as estimates. They were way out. If you seek sustainability you have to be honest about our capacity constraints and predictions. We have rarely hit our house building targets in the last 3 decades. If you prepare before new arrivals come it's a much better transition. The government has published plans for 10 new towns. Be honest. Is that enough?" Your numbers do not appear to stack up. In 1999 the net migration into the country was 163000 | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Prior to 2000 the long term immigration rate was 30K ish per annum. It seemed sustainable. When the UK Labour government allowed large numbers of Eastern European migrants here, the government cited similar numbers as estimates. They were way out. If you seek sustainability you have to be honest about our capacity constraints and predictions. We have rarely hit our house building targets in the last 3 decades. If you prepare before new arrivals come it's a much better transition. The government has published plans for 10 new towns. Be honest. Is that enough?" There are more houses laying empty now than there has ever been, even council owned properties | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"The migration observatory at Oxford University has an excellent article from 10th June 2025 entitled Net Migration into the UK. Here are the key points as written by them: The UK has experienced broadly similar levels of migration compared to other high-income countries, on average, over the past few decades. Net migration was 431,000 in 2024, a sharp decline from the unusually high levels in 2022 and 2023. However, it remained higher than levels seen during the 2010s, when the figure typically fluctuated between 200,000 and 300,000. Post-Brexit, net migration has been driven by non-EU immigration. In 2024, 69% of non-EU immigration was for work and study purposes. EU citizens made up a majority of immigration and net migration in the run-up to the 2016 EU referendum. Since 2021, however, EU net migration has been negative, according to official estimates (-96,000 in 2024). While the emigration of international students has been rising, they became more likely to stay in the UK since Brexit, contributing more to net migration than they had done in the past. Projections of future net migration are inherently uncertain. In the past 20 years, official projections have usually underestimated future net migration levels." Unfortunately there's too much information here for the average UK voter | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"The migration observatory at Oxford University has an excellent article from 10th June 2025 entitled Net Migration into the UK. Here are the key points as written by them: The UK has experienced broadly similar levels of migration compared to other high-income countries, on average, over the past few decades. Net migration was 431,000 in 2024, a sharp decline from the unusually high levels in 2022 and 2023. However, it remained higher than levels seen during the 2010s, when the figure typically fluctuated between 200,000 and 300,000. Post-Brexit, net migration has been driven by non-EU immigration. In 2024, 69% of non-EU immigration was for work and study purposes. EU citizens made up a majority of immigration and net migration in the run-up to the 2016 EU referendum. Since 2021, however, EU net migration has been negative, according to official estimates (-96,000 in 2024). While the emigration of international students has been rising, they became more likely to stay in the UK since Brexit, contributing more to net migration than they had done in the past. Projections of future net migration are inherently uncertain. In the past 20 years, official projections have usually underestimated future net migration levels. Unfortunately there's too much information here for the average UK voter " Should voting only be for those above average? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"The migration observatory at Oxford University has an excellent article from 10th June 2025 entitled Net Migration into the Uk Projections of future net migration are inherently uncertain. ." The last sentence says it all. These boffins have not a clue. Oxford University my arse. A dustman down the pub told me the same thing... | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"We should only be taking those in who have qualifications to do a decent job, can speak fluent English and have enough money to support themselves.. Let the illegals stay in France, not our problem and a drain on the taxpayers." Your first paragraph excludes alot of people who proclaim to be proper British with British values. Get real. Absolute Daily Mail BS right there... | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Prior to 2000 the long term immigration rate was 30K ish per annum. It seemed sustainable. When the UK Labour government allowed large numbers of Eastern European migrants here, the government cited similar numbers as estimates. They were way out. If you seek sustainability you have to be honest about our capacity constraints and predictions. We have rarely hit our house building targets in the last 3 decades. If you prepare before new arrivals come it's a much better transition. The government has published plans for 10 new towns. Be honest. Is that enough? There are more houses laying empty now than there has ever been, even council owned properties " Some people and companies buy properties - especially in London - and leave them vacant as an investment. Supply and Demand, innit. I wish any government would put a stop to that and make sure that all domestic properties are lived in and meet minimal habitable standards. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Prior to 2000 the long term immigration rate was 30K ish per annum. It seemed sustainable. When the UK Labour government allowed large numbers of Eastern European migrants here, the government cited similar numbers as estimates. They were way out. If you seek sustainability you have to be honest about our capacity constraints and predictions. We have rarely hit our house building targets in the last 3 decades. If you prepare before new arrivals come it's a much better transition. The government has published plans for 10 new towns. Be honest. Is that enough? There are more houses laying empty now than there has ever been, even council owned properties Some people and companies buy properties - especially in London - and leave them vacant as an investment. Supply and Demand, innit. I wish any government would put a stop to that and make sure that all domestic properties are lived in and meet minimal habitable standards. " That's absolutely true. Lots of expensive new developments such as Battersea Power Station or Wembley where people, often from China or elsewhere in SE Asia, buy new properties and leave them dormant and on pristine condition. It does however provide employment for the people building, and then selling and managing these places. I know a couple of people who make very decent money in property sales. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"The migration observatory at Oxford University has an excellent article from 10th June 2025 entitled Net Migration into the Uk Projections of future net migration are inherently uncertain. . The last sentence says it all. These boffins have not a clue. Oxford University my arse. A dustman down the pub told me the same thing..." Yawn, same old trolling shite | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Open the borders immigrants are good looking " Take it you've never seen a Somalian 😆 | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Open the borders immigrants are good looking Take it you've never seen a Somalian 😆" They are often very tall and large appendage I have heard | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"The migration observatory at Oxford University has an excellent article from 10th June 2025 entitled Net Migration into the Uk Projections of future net migration are inherently uncertain. . The last sentence says it all. These boffins have not a clue. Oxford University my arse. A dustman down the pub told me the same thing... Yawn, same old trolling shite" Well it was from Oxford University so hardly likely to be unbiased on a political level | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Open the borders immigrants are good looking " Suppose it's a bonus if the guy robbing you, beating you up or chucking you off a high building is good looking | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"The migration observatory at Oxford University has an excellent article from 10th June 2025 entitled Net Migration into the Uk Projections of future net migration are inherently uncertain. . The last sentence says it all. These boffins have not a clue. Oxford University my arse. A dustman down the pub told me the same thing... Yawn, same old trolling shite Well it was from Oxford University so hardly likely to be unbiased on a political level" Remember that picture of the Bullingdon club. ? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Open the borders immigrants are good looking Take it you've never seen a Somalian 😆" Sir Mohammad Muktar Jama Farah | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Oh that’s ok then , a lot of fuss over nothing . We can relax and welcome them open armed , oh we do that anyway I guess. We do when they fill the gaps in care and hospital workers and all the jobs that we don't like doing ourselves. " The counter argument to that is there are a few million more migrants and their families (all potential NHS patients).So they are needed to fill the gaps right enough. It's a vicious circle. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"The migration observatory at Oxford University has an excellent article from 10th June 2025 entitled Net Migration into the Uk Projections of future net migration are inherently uncertain. . The last sentence says it all. These boffins have not a clue. Oxford University my arse. A dustman down the pub told me the same thing... Yawn, same old trolling shite Well it was from Oxford University so hardly likely to be unbiased on a political level" Complete bull, but what else can you expect from someone living in the English Riviera and totally distanced from reality | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"The migration observatory at Oxford University has an excellent article from 10th June 2025 entitled Net Migration into the Uk Projections of future net migration are inherently uncertain. . The last sentence says it all. These boffins have not a clue. Oxford University my arse. A dustman down the pub told me the same thing... Yawn, same old trolling shite Well it was from Oxford University so hardly likely to be unbiased on a political level" Care to illuminate us on the collective bias of Oxford University? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Open the borders immigrants are good looking Suppose it's a bonus if the guy robbing you, beating you up or chucking you off a high building is good looking" There are plenty people born in the UK who can do that for you, the crime figures bear that up just fine. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Open the borders immigrants are good looking Suppose it's a bonus if the guy robbing you, beating you up or chucking you off a high building is good looking There are plenty people born in the UK who can do that for you, the crime figures bear that up just fine." And what is their background? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Open the borders immigrants are good looking Suppose it's a bonus if the guy robbing you, beating you up or chucking you off a high building is good looking There are plenty people born in the UK who can do that for you, the crime figures bear that up just fine. And what is their background?" Wildly variable. The vast majority of them are white British. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"They are all coming to rebuild the country make it great again! In their own image Just like we do when we migrate into other countries. Yes ... Some add value ... Others detract Third World values tend to detract from First World societies. " Particularly when one observes individuals yelling and intoxicated in the streets of European cities, they undeniably contribute significant value to those urban environments. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"They are all coming to rebuild the country make it great again! In their own image Just like we do when we migrate into other countries. Yes ... Some add value ... Others detract Third World values tend to detract from First World societies. If there were such things as “Third World Values” absolutely it would be a point worth mulling over. But as it is, your statement is just borne of ignorance and prejudice and has very little by way of substance behind it. Some sort of superiority complex maybe, but that’s about it." A total racist he is | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"They are all coming to rebuild the country make it great again! In their own image Just like we do when we migrate into other countries. Yes ... Some add value ... Others detract Third World values tend to detract from First World societies. Particularly when one observes individuals yelling and intoxicated in the streets of European cities, they undeniably contribute significant value to those urban environments." Engerland engerland engerland! | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| Post new Message to Thread |
| back to top |  |
