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By *ammy39 OP   Man
7 weeks ago

Glenrothes

Thats what the whole of the UK contributes to Global Warming!!

Jeeeeesus!!!!

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By *ottomladdtfMan
7 weeks ago

Southend


"Thats what the whole of the UK contributes to Global Warming!!

Jeeeeesus!!!!"

We probably outsource most of our contribution to china where all our cheap tat is made

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By *i_guy_WBayMan
7 weeks ago

Whitley Bay

If that is true then as we have 0.85% of the global population we deserve a break and they need to flog the other offenders a bit harder!!!

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By *inkyfuckerukMan
7 weeks ago

Worcester & Bangor


"Thats what the whole of the UK contributes to Global Warming!!

Jeeeeesus!!!!"

you mean today not when jt started during the industrial revolution

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By *antsMeetsMan
7 weeks ago

uxbridge

Its all a load of bollocks to control people.

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By *ountainMan
7 weeks ago

ipswich

Ostrich

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By *icole mk tvTV/TS
7 weeks ago

Milton keynes

Its actually less than that, 0.0001 %, the same thing happened 4.5 billion yrs ago, it happened because every so often the the sun gets brighter and hotter, i listen to the scientist, not the fantasist

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By *andomguy321Man
7 weeks ago

reading


"Ostrich "

Feather Boa

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By *icole mk tvTV/TS
7 weeks ago

Milton keynes


"Ostrich

Feather Boa "

Erm , rod hull

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By *ountainMan
7 weeks ago

ipswich

The earth is only 4.5 billion years old. So back then it was a dead, hot planet with no life on it.

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By *ountainMan
7 weeks ago

ipswich


"Ostrich

Feather Boa "

A snake with feathers !?

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By *icole mk tvTV/TS
7 weeks ago

Milton keynes

Oops , meant million yrs old

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By *rancd2TV/TS
7 weeks ago

Wolverhampton

Well if it means we get nice warm Novembers more often, then im all for this climate change stuff 😁

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By *hiteroseMan
7 weeks ago

Neverwhere

These COP climate conferences are an utter joke. How many thousands of tonnes of carbon dioxide are released flying all these delegates to Brazil, when their stated goal is to get us all to cut our carbon dioxide emissions? Well, there's nothing like leading by example is there.

But with the US, India, Russia and China absent from the conference, they are dead in the water before they start. Those four countries alone are responsible for almost 60% of global carbon release.

At the last COP the oil nations used it as a trade exhibition to sell more oil. And this time round they are having their jolly in a country that is destroying it's rain forests at an alarming rate.

This is just rank hypocrisy on a breathtaking scale. A nice little jolly for them. We'll pick up the tab.

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By *enri du lacMan
7 weeks ago

Coventry

I guess it must have been Julius Caesar's coal-fired power stations and fleet of gas-guzzling limos that caused the Roman Warm Period.

Similarly, it was clearly William The Conqueror's insistence on travelling everywhere in his converted Jumbo Jet that contributed to the Medieval Warm Period.

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By *laireKTV/TS
7 weeks ago

Manchester

Factoid alert.

Setting concrete releases CO2.

China poured more concrete in just 2 years than the USA did in the entire 20th century.

If you genuinely worry about global climate change, then why is a project like Neon going to consume vast amount of resources for just 9m people?

It feels like our climate agenda is about controlling the little people.

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By *annyDanielleMan
7 weeks ago

Street, Somerset

In 985AD Erik the Red's vikings successfully established a colony on Greenland that lasted almost 500 years. It was warm enough to grow crops and feed cattle. It isn't now.

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By *ildwestheroMan
7 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells

Wenlock Edge in Shropshire was once a tropical coral reef.

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By *weddolMan
7 weeks ago

Chester


"Thats what the whole of the UK contributes to Global Warming!!

Jeeeeesus!!!!"

the UK is the fifth biggest historic emitter in the world. That’s because we started the burning of fossil fuels – we were the birthplace of the Industrial Revolution. That’s far from water under the bridge – all those carbon emissions are still up there in the atmosphere, and form part of the climate crisis we face today.

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By *weddolMan
7 weeks ago

Chester


"Wenlock Edge in Shropshire was once a tropical coral reef."

Yes 400 million years ago. This was before reptiles even existed, let alone mammals.

Make Shropshire Great Again?

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By *hiteroseMan
7 weeks ago

Neverwhere


"Thats what the whole of the UK contributes to Global Warming!!

Jeeeeesus!!!!

the UK is the fifth biggest historic emitter in the world. That’s because we started the burning of fossil fuels – we were the birthplace of the Industrial Revolution. That’s far from water under the bridge – all those carbon emissions are still up there in the atmosphere, and form part of the climate crisis we face today. "

The vast majority of the carbon emitted from the birth of the industrial revolution until around 1950 was when the world was able to capture and store it. The system was broadly in balance. So it's unfair to blame historic emissions. That's just a convenient excuse to absolve nations of their current excessive releases.

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By *weddolMan
7 weeks ago

Chester

Most of that system has since been destroyed and the cardoon it held in place is now back in the atmosphere again

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By *weddolMan
7 weeks ago

Chester

People should be aware by now the difference between global warming, and climate change.

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By *weddolMan
7 weeks ago

Chester

The oldest guy on our allotments has been there almost 50 years.

When he first started, we couldn't grown sweetcorn and squashes here, but now everyone grows them.

The first commercial crop of chickpeas was able to be grown in 2019

First lentils in 2017

First chia seeds in 2018.

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By *enri du lacMan
7 weeks ago

Coventry


"In 985AD Erik the Red's vikings successfully established a colony on Greenland that lasted almost 500 years. It was warm enough to grow crops and feed cattle. It isn't now. "

That's because Henry VII decommissioned all of Julius Caesar's coal-fired power stations. You know - the ones that caused the Roman Warm Period.

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By *has2Man
7 weeks ago

Chaddesden, Derby


"The oldest guy on our allotments has been there almost 50 years.

When he first started, we couldn't grown sweetcorn and squashes here, but now everyone grows them.

The first commercial crop of chickpeas was able to be grown in 2019

First lentils in 2017

First chia seeds in 2018."

Plus the amount of vineyards here and now rice is being grown

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By *enri du lacMan
7 weeks ago

Coventry


"The oldest guy on our allotments has been there almost 50 years.

When he first started, we couldn't grown sweetcorn and squashes here, but now everyone grows them.

The first commercial crop of chickpeas was able to be grown in 2019

First lentils in 2017

First chia seeds in 2018.

Plus the amount of vineyards here and now rice is being grown"

The Romans had vineyards here too.

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By *ammy57TV/TS
7 weeks ago

Stevenage


"The oldest guy on our allotments has been there almost 50 years.

When he first started, we couldn't grown sweetcorn and squashes here, but now everyone grows them.

The first commercial crop of chickpeas was able to be grown in 2019

First lentils in 2017

First chia seeds in 2018.

Plus the amount of vineyards here and now rice is being grown

The Romans had vineyards here too."

But they also said it was dreadful?!?

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By *ammy57TV/TS
7 weeks ago

Stevenage

Re vikings yes they had cattle but in relatively small numbers and the last 100 years they had stopped farming with cows as the weather again cooled.

Note the Inuit and Laplanders have lived further north for generations. They also record migrations over time as weather changes.

But nothing like now.

And yes it's 0.1 percent now, it hasn't been over the last 200 years when the first degree of warming happened. Most of our oil is exported and most of our consumption is not indigenous production we off shore that to India china and Africa and then ship it back.

So that .1 is very misleading.

Fact is we will reach 2 degrees by 2050 or sooner, and 3 or four by 2200.

If your thirty now you will be dead by then.

Unless your rich, there is a reasonable chance your kids might wish they were too.

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By (user no longer on site)
7 weeks ago

Mark my words, when the digital ID bullshit comes in, we’ll get “marked down” for how much energy we use and emissions we make. Social credit scores are coming!

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By *moothshyMan
7 weeks ago

A14 West corridor


"Mark my words, when the digital ID bullshit comes in, we’ll get “marked down” for how much energy we use and emissions we make. Social credit scores are coming!"

Look up 'Personal Carbon Allowances'.

IIRC they are looking to impose near-impossible limits on us plebs, meanwhile 'the elites' that set them will of course be exempt from those rules...

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By *hiteroseMan
7 weeks ago

Neverwhere


"Mark my words, when the digital ID bullshit comes in, we’ll get “marked down” for how much energy we use and emissions we make. Social credit scores are coming!

Look up 'Personal Carbon Allowances'.

IIRC they are looking to impose near-impossible limits on us plebs, meanwhile 'the elites' that set them will of course be exempt from those rules..."

So long as the Personal Carbon Allowance includes air travel, and applies equally to all then count me in. I'm sick of being told what type of heating to have, or what car to drive by people that will merrily get on a plane and fly to far flung places.

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By *ooking for sexy funMan
7 weeks ago

Taunton


"Thats what the whole of the UK contributes to Global Warming!!

Jeeeeesus!!!! you mean today not when jt started during the industrial revolution "

No it started when they discovered fire back in the stone age

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By *om_essexMan
7 weeks ago

Chelmsford

Well we outsource all our manufacturing to China then blame them.

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By *weddolMan
7 weeks ago

Chester


"

The Romans had vineyards here too."

The Romans had vineyards in the South East of Britain, but today there are vineyards right across Britain including North Yorkshire

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By *hiteroseMan
7 weeks ago

Neverwhere


"

The Romans had vineyards here too.

The Romans had vineyards in the South East of Britain, but today there are vineyards right across Britain including North Yorkshire "

I always thought Yorkshire Tea was grown on the eastern slopes of the Pennines.

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By *enri du lacMan
7 weeks ago

Coventry


"

The Romans had vineyards here too.

The Romans had vineyards in the South East of Britain, but today there are vineyards right across Britain including North Yorkshire "

Most Roman vineyards would indeed have been in the South East, although that could be explained by the fact that the Roman occupation started there first.

Archaeologists A.G. BROWN, I. MEADOWS, S.D. TURNER & D.J. MATTINGLY wrote a paper in 2001 entitled "Roman vineyards in Britain: stratigraphic and palynological data from Woolaston in the Nene Valley, England", presenting evidence of a Roman vineyard in Northamptonshire.

They also refer to evidence for a Roman vineyard in Lincolnshire.

Viticulture has come a long way since Roman times. Hardier grape varieties have been created in recent times that can thrive much further north than previously. Even Norway has vineyards now.

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By *ammy57TV/TS
7 weeks ago

Stevenage

Re social credit scoring , I think your right, provided at a reasonable cost by your friendly PFI initiative!

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By *ammy39 OP   Man
7 weeks ago

Glenrothes

Very interesting views and nothing nasty (so far)

My point is, even if the UK was totally carbon neutral tomorrow, it would make virtually no difference to the massive outputs of China,Russia,India, etc.

It's costing British consumers a fortune in energy costs, made worse with all this "green" commitment!

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By *ocktoplaywithMan
7 weeks ago

Derby


"Its all a load of bollocks to control people. "

Absolutely. Carbon dioxide makes up a very small part of the earths atmosphere, man made co2 a minute part of that. It’s absolutely farsical, and we’re all expected to follow on like sheep doing what they say.

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By *ammy39 OP   Man
7 weeks ago

Glenrothes

I tend to agree with you but "they" are winning at our expense !

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By *ummerTV/TS
7 weeks ago

I am in Spain, not


"Very interesting views and nothing nasty (so far)

My point is, even if the UK was totally carbon neutral tomorrow, it would make virtually no difference to the massive outputs of China,Russia,India, etc.

It's costing British consumers a fortune in energy costs, made worse with all this "green" commitment!

"

You cannot base it on just what carbon is produced in the UK.

Those other countries manufacturer the goods we consume.

Their production only exists for our consumption.

Outsourcing carbon emissions doesn't negate responsibility for them.

Demanding green policies at source would be hypocritical and difficult to justify if we were not setting an example.

Those costs to British consumers are minimal compared to what practically everything you purchase would be if manufacturing those goods in the UK, if it were even possible.

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By *ammy57TV/TS
6 weeks ago

Stevenage

Fairly well established now that energy is 20 times cheaper from green sources.

If govt wants to reduce consumer bills they have to break the link that ties electric price to most expensive unit.

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By *annicuriousMan
6 weeks ago

Berkshire

We contribute so little on the global scale but I think we should do what we can whilst trying to get the big polluters to do what they can as well.

I think we should do what we can to help the planet.

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By *ucksitupMan
6 weeks ago

Shrewsbury


"We contribute so little on the global scale but I think we should do what we can whilst trying to get the big polluters to do what they can as well.

I think we should do what we can to help the planet."

If we as a country suddenly made zero contribution to climate change it would not help the planet. It would however seriously impact the lives of everyone (except a few green zealots) in a negative way.

Without China, India, USA, Poland, Brazil et al getting on board and making serious changes there is little point in impacting our own lives and our own economy in a negative way.

Virtue signalling has no real impact on the problem.

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By *ammy aka SammyTV/TS
6 weeks ago

Bedford

Cattle gas x

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By *enardeMan
6 weeks ago

Barnsley


"Thats what the whole of the UK contributes to Global Warming!!

Jeeeeesus!!!!"

Yes apparently were way out in front from when the Coal Mining Industry was shut down

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By *andomguy321Man
6 weeks ago

reading


"Thats what the whole of the UK contributes to Global Warming!!

Jeeeeesus!!!!

Yes apparently were way out in front from when the Coal Mining Industry was shut down"

Maggie saved the planet!

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By *om_essexMan
5 weeks ago

Chelmsford


"Thats what the whole of the UK contributes to Global Warming!!

Jeeeeesus!!!!

the UK is the fifth biggest historic emitter in the world. That’s because we started the burning of fossil fuels – we were the birthplace of the Industrial Revolution. That’s far from water under the bridge – all those carbon emissions are still up there in the atmosphere, and form part of the climate crisis we face today. "

Are Reparations due?

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By *rancd2TV/TS
5 weeks ago

Wolverhampton


"Thats what the whole of the UK contributes to Global Warming!!

Jeeeeesus!!!!

the UK is the fifth biggest historic emitter in the world. That’s because we started the burning of fossil fuels – we were the birthplace of the Industrial Revolution. That’s far from water under the bridge – all those carbon emissions are still up there in the atmosphere, and form part of the climate crisis we face today."

Considering we started before anyone else, so we would have been number 1, is this decline also something we can blame on years of Tory governments?

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By *waff1102Man
5 weeks ago

King's Lynn, Norfolk

Given how many planets there are in the Universe, does it really matter what happens here?

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By *0yguyMan
5 weeks ago

Cumberland


"Given how many planets there are in the Universe, does it really matter what happens here?"

It matters to me.

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By *im le2Man
5 weeks ago

aylestone leic


"Thats what the whole of the UK contributes to Global Warming!!

Jeeeeesus!!!!"

Hang on I've just farted it's gone up a bit.

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By *orcester GuyMan
5 weeks ago

Worcestershire North

Welcome all means of reducing waste pollution

It seems another cause hijacked by corporations as way of making more money

Read somewhere those electric cars in London to be charged now to drive through

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By *hyna HutchMan
5 weeks ago

valleys


"...

It feels like our climate agenda is about controlling the little people..."

Snow White was a bugger for that.

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By *lexieMan
5 weeks ago

Just north of Southampton


"

The Romans had vineyards here too.

The Romans had vineyards in the South East of Britain, but today there are vineyards right across Britain including North Yorkshire

Most Roman vineyards would indeed have been in the South East, although that could be explained by the fact that the Roman occupation started there first.

Archaeologists A.G. BROWN, I. MEADOWS, S.D. TURNER & D.J. MATTINGLY wrote a paper in 2001 entitled "Roman vineyards in Britain: stratigraphic and palynological data from Woolaston in the Nene Valley, England", presenting evidence of a Roman vineyard in Northamptonshire.

They also refer to evidence for a Roman vineyard in Lincolnshire.

Viticulture has come a long way since Roman times. Hardier grape varieties have been created in recent times that can thrive much further north than previously. Even Norway has vineyards now.

"

That's ok, I do my bit to eradicate the scourge of the grape of the vine and bottle of wine... I consume them!

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By *lexieMan
5 weeks ago

Just north of Southampton


"Given how many planets there are in the Universe, does it really matter what happens here?"

Planet Earth has finnate capacity to keep on giving; yet we keep on insisting on continued growth! That equation will end badly for the Earth and us... unless we can find a way to reach these other fabled goldy luxe planets! Don't hold ya breath!

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