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"I'm kind of on the fence with them, I've known loads, I mean loads of people (men and women) who have taken them or continue to do so, with outstanding results. They lose weight very quickly, and in this impatient world we live in, that's appealing to lots, even if they need to pay for it. I know some are designed for diabetes, but I've no idea what else the long lasting effects are. Having said that, how many of us put newly designed vaccines in our body a few years ago??? If you decide to do it, get stuff from the proper channels ,don't rely on tempting cheap stock. That literally is dicing with death." Thanks... yeah I'd never get it over the internet, far too risky, especially when there's a Boots just around the corner. | |||
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"I’m Type 2 Diabetic and my GP put me on Monjaro November last year. I’m on 5mg, one injection a week and over the course of a year lost about 10kg (with a bit of daily walking round the car park) and I’ve not had any problems with it. Now there jabs were developed for the treatment of Type 2. My brother also Type 2 (it tends to run in families) is also on it but he is on the 7.5mg, but is getting some problems with his stomach. Don’t think that GP’s are prescribing it just for weight loss at the moment (according to a sign that was on the counter in the surgery reception), so private prescription might be the only way but it is quite expensive as you pay the full price, 5mg costs between £160 and £220 per month (they bumped the price up this year). Higher doses cost more. The injector pen contains only 4 doses - i.e. 4 weeks injections." Thanks... I'm not Diabetic or even pre-Diabetic. I wouldn't be looking for it on the NHS, I think it's something you should pay for if not medically in need of it. But still gonna have a word with the doctor before I go any further with it. | |||
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"Belly ‘fat’ is always the last to go and is notoriously difficult to loose, a balanced healthy diet, cardio and weight resistance exercises and a calorie deficit ( burning more than intake) eating regime should, over time see excess fat disappear. " Thanks... And I totally get that, though all these things, apart from the weight resistace stuff, have been tried in the past. | |||
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"I avoid any pills or drugs like a plague - served me well so far. In your case it well may be worth a try. Have you tried swimming? " Thanks... I know swimming is one of the best forms of exercise, it's a self confidence thing that stops me going to my local pool, even though it's only a few hundred yards from where I live. Happy to swim in a lake or reservoir, even take a short dip in the sea when I'm staying on the coast. | |||
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"Belly ‘fat’ is always the last to go and is notoriously difficult to loose, a balanced healthy diet, cardio and weight resistance exercises and a calorie deficit ( burning more than intake) eating regime should, over time see excess fat disappear. " Can confirm that from personal experience. I let people drag me into a pub once a week. When after few weeks I realised what's the result of ONE beer a week - I ended that routine and it took me about 6 months to loose that belly fat with a lot of exercise! And that was when I was in my twenties. | |||
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"I know what you're all gonna immediately think, that I'm fat, stuff myself with pies, never do any exercise and just want an easy way out. But it's really not like that. I've been overweight all my life, tried more diets than you could imagine, always walk if I'm going less than about a mile, cycle regularly, I hardly eat enough to keep a dog alive never mind a 17/18 stone, nearly 6ft bloke, yet still I can't shake the belly off... yes, I'm gonna speak to my doctor about it, but I just wondered if any of you guys have used these 'fat jabs' and what, if any, problems, side effects etc you might have had. I don't want to be skinny, just lose 3 or 4 stone. I'd appreciate any feedback. Cheers guys. (happy for you to reply privately if you want to be discreet about it)" Not all calories are equa, you may think you donr eat much, but the fact is your eating more than you need. Its not easy and hunger is your friend, its the feeling of losing weight. Good luck | |||
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"I know what you're all gonna immediately think, that I'm fat, stuff myself with pies, never do any exercise and just want an easy way out. But it's really not like that. I've been overweight all my life, tried more diets than you could imagine, always walk if I'm going less than about a mile, cycle regularly, I hardly eat enough to keep a dog alive never mind a 17/18 stone, nearly 6ft bloke, yet still I can't shake the belly off... yes, I'm gonna speak to my doctor about it, but I just wondered if any of you guys have used these 'fat jabs' and what, if any, problems, side effects etc you might have had. I don't want to be skinny, just lose 3 or 4 stone. I'd appreciate any feedback. Cheers guys. (happy for you to reply privately if you want to be discreet about it)" Keep a food diary to monitor what you're eating and drinking. Weight gain is consuming more calories than you expend and nothing more | |||
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"I know what you're all gonna immediately think, that I'm fat, stuff myself with pies, never do any exercise and just want an easy way out. But it's really not like that. I've been overweight all my life, tried more diets than you could imagine, always walk if I'm going less than about a mile, cycle regularly, I hardly eat enough to keep a dog alive never mind a 17/18 stone, nearly 6ft bloke, yet still I can't shake the belly off... yes, I'm gonna speak to my doctor about it, but I just wondered if any of you guys have used these 'fat jabs' and what, if any, problems, side effects etc you might have had. I don't want to be skinny, just lose 3 or 4 stone. I'd appreciate any feedback. Cheers guys. (happy for you to reply privately if you want to be discreet about it) Keep a food diary to monitor what you're eating and drinking. Weight gain is consuming more calories than you expend and nothing more" Thanks... it's not that I'm gaining weight, it does fluctuate by about half a stone and always has done, I'm just wanting to lose some of what I've always had. | |||
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"I know what you're all gonna immediately think, that I'm fat, stuff myself with pies, never do any exercise and just want an easy way out. But it's really not like that. I've been overweight all my life, tried more diets than you could imagine, always walk if I'm going less than about a mile, cycle regularly, I hardly eat enough to keep a dog alive never mind a 17/18 stone, nearly 6ft bloke, yet still I can't shake the belly off... yes, I'm gonna speak to my doctor about it, but I just wondered if any of you guys have used these 'fat jabs' and what, if any, problems, side effects etc you might have had. I don't want to be skinny, just lose 3 or 4 stone. I'd appreciate any feedback. Cheers guys. (happy for you to reply privately if you want to be discreet about it)" Have that conversation with your Doctor. He will be able to give all the information you are looking for. Be aware however that you are highly unlikely to get in on the NHS (unless you have other issues such as diabetes). You can then pay for it but the cost will be between £150 and £250 per 4 weeks depending on where you get it and which drug is suitable for you. There are side effects but they vary from person to person. It’s a case of finding the best one for you. Good luck. | |||
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"I’m going to sound like a cunt but you need to be honest with yourself regarding your eating habits. It’s impossible to eat barely enough to keep a dog alive whilst also being 17-18 stone. To lose weight you need to be in a calorie deficit, go on google and type in TDEE Calculator, click the first link and fill it out It will give you the calories you need to be eating per day to lose X amount of weight per week. " No, you don't sound like a 'cunt'... happy to receive any advice. Thankyou  | |||
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"I know what you're all gonna immediately think, that I'm fat, stuff myself with pies, never do any exercise and just want an easy way out. But it's really not like that. I've been overweight all my life, tried more diets than you could imagine, always walk if I'm going less than about a mile, cycle regularly, I hardly eat enough to keep a dog alive never mind a 17/18 stone, nearly 6ft bloke, yet still I can't shake the belly off... yes, I'm gonna speak to my doctor about it, but I just wondered if any of you guys have used these 'fat jabs' and what, if any, problems, side effects etc you might have had. I don't want to be skinny, just lose 3 or 4 stone. I'd appreciate any feedback. Cheers guys. (happy for you to reply privately if you want to be discreet about it) Have that conversation with your Doctor. He will be able to give all the information you are looking for. Be aware however that you are highly unlikely to get in on the NHS (unless you have other issues such as diabetes). You can then pay for it but the cost will be between £150 and £250 per 4 weeks depending on where you get it and which drug is suitable for you. There are side effects but they vary from person to person. It’s a case of finding the best one for you. Good luck." Thanks  | |||
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"Try a keto diet, you'll lose weight without the use of drugs" My friend has tried this and others and does lose weight But as with most diets people pile it back on after reaching their target weight Statistics show 70% of diets fail in the long term because people pile it back on after losing weight they go back to their old ways  | |||
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"Try a keto diet, you'll lose weight without the use of drugs My friend has tried this and others and does lose weight But as with most diets people pile it back on after reaching their target weight Statistics show 70% of diets fail in the long term because people pile it back on after losing weight they go back to their old ways "Too many people are using the drug to just lose weight, forgetting the reason they are fat is all in thier head. If they dont don't do the head work, it's a waste of money. | |||
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"I’m Type 2 Diabetic and my GP put me on Monjaro November last year. I’m on 5mg, one injection a week and over the course of a year lost about 10kg (with a bit of daily walking round the car park) and I’ve not had any problems with it. Now there jabs were developed for the treatment of Type 2. My brother also Type 2 (it tends to run in families) is also on it but he is on the 7.5mg, but is getting some problems with his stomach. Don’t think that GP’s are prescribing it just for weight loss at the moment (according to a sign that was on the counter in the surgery reception), so private prescription might be the only way but it is quite expensive as you pay the full price, 5mg costs between £160 and £220 per month (they bumped the price up this year). Higher doses cost more. The injector pen contains only 4 doses - i.e. 4 weeks injections." Get a syrimge and draw off the 5th dose from the pen - makes it more cost effective - my pharmacist supplies a syringe every time for this purpose - on 5mg Mounjaro - lost 12kg in 10 weeks and 10 kg before starting jabs so 23kg in total so far - I'm having to do it to meet weight target for knee replacement surgery 13kg to go!  | |||
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"Need that jab just on my arse " It doesn't work on a single bodypart It treats the whole body so that weight loss is even | |||
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"I empathise totally with the OP. Had a lifelong weight problem even though I used to be quite fit. Now retired and arthritic I find exercise more difficult and cannot even enjoy long walks anymore. I try to eat healthily, avoid fast food and never touch alcohol. Recently saw my new GP. She was sympathetic but said she could not prescribe weight loss drugs/injections herself but would refer me to a specialist. Still weighting. The most successful of the many diets I have tried was the LighterLife one. Lost over 4st in 4 months. Debilitating and depressing. Once off it the weight sneaked back on." I can sympathise as when i was obese i was very disabled and exercise was impossible. Have you tried fasting? Since I came off mounjaro I now only allow myself to eat between 6pm and 10pm. It's easy to do, though have been a tad off piste over Xmas. The eating window is small so there's simply not enough time to eat enough to gain weight. Its meant to be good for controlling blood sugar and boosting libido and testosterone too - which i can definitely confirm. | |||
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"I empathise totally with the OP. Had a lifelong weight problem even though I used to be quite fit. Now retired and arthritic I find exercise more difficult and cannot even enjoy long walks anymore. I try to eat healthily, avoid fast food and never touch alcohol. Recently saw my new GP. She was sympathetic but said she could not prescribe weight loss drugs/injections herself but would refer me to a specialist. Still weighting. The most successful of the many diets I have tried was the LighterLife one. Lost over 4st in 4 months. Debilitating and depressing. Once off it the weight sneaked back on. I can sympathise as when i was obese i was very disabled and exercise was impossible. Have you tried fasting? Since I came off mounjaro I now only allow myself to eat between 6pm and 10pm. It's easy to do, though have been a tad off piste over Xmas. The eating window is small so there's simply not enough time to eat enough to gain weight. Its meant to be good for controlling blood sugar and boosting libido and testosterone too - which i can definitely confirm." My friend tried the four hour window thing But she went mad during the four hours doing crazy stuff like eating 2 blocks of cheese cake biscuits pizzas etc She told me during her 4hr feed she melted 6 mars bars in the microwave mixed them in the blender with ice cream and milk to make a smoothie then drank the lot It didnt work for her but then up to now nothing has in the long term She gets really down and it really upsets her then she comfort eats She's over 30 stone at present | |||
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"I empathise totally with the OP. Had a lifelong weight problem even though I used to be quite fit. Now retired and arthritic I find exercise more difficult and cannot even enjoy long walks anymore. I try to eat healthily, avoid fast food and never touch alcohol. Recently saw my new GP. She was sympathetic but said she could not prescribe weight loss drugs/injections herself but would refer me to a specialist. Still weighting. The most successful of the many diets I have tried was the LighterLife one. Lost over 4st in 4 months. Debilitating and depressing. Once off it the weight sneaked back on. I can sympathise as when i was obese i was very disabled and exercise was impossible. Have you tried fasting? Since I came off mounjaro I now only allow myself to eat between 6pm and 10pm. It's easy to do, though have been a tad off piste over Xmas. The eating window is small so there's simply not enough time to eat enough to gain weight. Its meant to be good for controlling blood sugar and boosting libido and testosterone too - which i can definitely confirm. My friend tried the four hour window thing But she went mad during the four hours doing crazy stuff like eating 2 blocks of cheese cake biscuits pizzas etc She told me during her 4hr feed she melted 6 mars bars in the microwave mixed them in the blender with ice cream and milk to make a smoothie then drank the lot It didnt work for her but then up to now nothing has in the long term She gets really down and it really upsets her then she comfort eats She's over 30 stone at present " Sounds like she needs psychological help before she thnks about losing weight. She's certainly got an eating disorder. She should get help for that. | |||
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"There's quite a bit of evidence appearing that they're not as good as their marketing would make you think. Primarily if you stop taking it, ALL the weight returns. Now it's a case of considering, "can I put up with these injections and expense forever?" There are other ways - more effective and much much nicer." It would only return if you go back to over eating you have to train yourself to eat sensibly when you come of them | |||
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"There's quite a bit of evidence appearing that they're not as good as their marketing would make you think. Primarily if you stop taking it, ALL the weight returns. Now it's a case of considering, "can I put up with these injections and expense forever?" There are other ways - more effective and much much nicer." There's a lot of evidence of people using the drug to merely lose weight. In that respect it works. But if the person doesn't also use it as a tool to change thier lifestyle and develop control over thier eating habits, which is primarily what the drug is meant to be for, it will be an epic waste of money. People are fat cos they are greedy and lack self control. Ive been off mounjaro for 6 months and haven't put any weight back on. In fact, cos I now have such a calorie-burning lifestyle, I sometimes struggle to stay heavy enough. I knew from the start that the work needed to be done in my head. I got myself a weightloss buddy who was also using mounjaro who had the same mindset (didn't know her, she lives in Spain) and we encouraged each other with brutal honesty. That was essential. 18 months/7 stone gone. Sadly there will always be people who are so desperate to lose weight that they will forget that the reason they are fat fuckers is actually down to what's going on in their head. Its not a fat melting wonder drug, but it works for people ready to do the psychological word on themselves. | |||
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"I'm om mj and it has changed my life have lost 3 stone I was 29 stone I'm no longer in pain and life is so much easier "  i was in same boat, severely disabled cos of fat. Still got my blue badge til Feb! Now I can walk miles and miles and love doing it. I can fuck for hours. I can toll.arpumd of the floor playing with my dogs. I can get up a ladder. I can put my socks on without being winded! Well done you! | |||
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"Try a keto diet, you'll lose weight without the use of drugs My friend has tried this and others and does lose weight But as with most diets people pile it back on after reaching their target weight Statistics show 70% of diets fail in the long term because people pile it back on after losing weight they go back to their old ways
Too many people are using the drug to just lose weight, forgetting the reason they are fat is all in thier head. If they dont don't do the head work, it's a waste of money."You got a good point there! I tried for years anything I could think of to quit smoking, and it would work at best for few weeks or months. When I put things in order in my head, I quit for good. Now if by any chance I find myself surrounded by chain smokers, I don't have the slightest desire to start smoking again - I only get annoyed by the smoke getting in my cloths. | |||
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"I lost about 2 stone with Wegovy (from Boots Online Doctor) a couple of years back. Unfortunately the weight came back on rapidly when I stopped. I think my body got used to the highest dosage and could still eat large portions if I wanted to, so that it was pretty ineffective for me. I’m now on 5mg Mounjaro and it seems to have a stronger effect which is helping. With all GLP-1s though, weight loss is not an automatic guarantee and you still have to follow common sense rules. (If you starve yourself all day just because you can, you’ll end up eating the wrong thing later and you’ll feel very uncomfortable!) They’re a tool to support you while you change your lifestyle and do the hard yards of weight loss without as much discomfort, but you still have to bring some motivation and discipline. I’m using Zava (who supply Asda online doctor) and Bolt Pharmacy (registered with the general pharmaceutical council). So far so good! If anyone is interested I am happy to share my referral codes for an introductory discount. " If you ultimately failed on wegovy, what are you doing different this time around on mounjaro? | |||
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" If you ultimately failed on wegovy, what are you doing different this time around on mounjaro?" Good question. I’m taking the Mounjaro with plenty of valuable lessons learned from the Wegovy. Namely: 1) I’ll choose to taper down my dosage this time when I reach my goal weight, instead of jumping straight off. 2) I have a better focus now on quality of food (whole, unprocessed), rather than thinking I’ve got a free ticket to eat smaller amounts of junk food while I’m on the jabs. 3) I’m now committed to regular exercise. Midway through Wegovy I had a health issue which stopped me from exercising, so that certainly didn’t help with the speed of weight regain. I’ll see how it goes but I’m a lot more hopeful this time that I’ll be able to shift meaningful weight and keep it off this time as I’m taking the lifestyle changes a lot more seriously and trying to make it enjoyable too. | |||
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"These are appetite suppressors, and work to an extent, but you should use them as an aid to change your dietary habits so in the long term the weight stays off. You need to mentally change your health and eating habits for them to be truly effective enough. I wish anyone using these aids the best of luck....but recognise them for what they are." 100% | |||
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" If you ultimately failed on wegovy, what are you doing different this time around on mounjaro? Good question. I’m taking the Mounjaro with plenty of valuable lessons learned from the Wegovy. Namely: 1) I’ll choose to taper down my dosage this time when I reach my goal weight, instead of jumping straight off. 2) I have a better focus now on quality of food (whole, unprocessed), rather than thinking I’ve got a free ticket to eat smaller amounts of junk food while I’m on the jabs. 3) I’m now committed to regular exercise. Midway through Wegovy I had a health issue which stopped me from exercising, so that certainly didn’t help with the speed of weight regain. I’ll see how it goes but I’m a lot more hopeful this time that I’ll be able to shift meaningful weight and keep it off this time as I’m taking the lifestyle changes a lot more seriously and trying to make it enjoyable too. " Thats good. I did a 6 month taper ending up having to use needles as the dose was so tiny from a 15 pen. Fasting 20 hours a day really sorted my terrible eating habits. If it wasn't time to eat, i just couldn't eat, so that was really simple. In a few months the habits and cravings were broken. I still fast 20 hours many days of the week, but if I want something I will have it and then factor in some exercise later. Weekly weighing has been essential since I've been off. Easier to rein in a kg than 6 of them! Best 2.5 geand I've ever spent tbh. | |||
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"Well i started on it 6 months ago. I was over 24st i know this because my scales only go to 24st and then they error . Im now 19st12 so in the region of 4 to 4.5st loss . Side effects at first were loose no2s and lots of wind, but both of which have now disappeared unless i have too much dairy . My appetite did reduce dramaticly at first but now i dont notice so much because i think i have just got used to feelings but i do know i dont eat anywhere near as much as i used to even my alchohol intake has reduced so for me its a win win . Im aiming for 16st, now im 5'7" tall and 16st to the experts is still adout 5st over weight but in my eyes below that i look ill and i was happy at 16st in my 40s , if i can get there its 8st off and got to be better ." 👏 👏 👏 I went off booze. Was a big drinker before. I didnt notice supression after 6 months, like you i think i just got used to it. But it was still working and sorting out the liver and pancreas silently. Good luck, pretty sure you'll do it. | |||
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" 👏 👏 👏 I went off booze. Was a big drinker before. I didnt notice supression after 6 months, like you i think i just got used to it. But it was still working and sorting out the liver and pancreas silently. Good luck, pretty sure you'll do it." That’s the one thing about Mounjaro - I still like the booze, whereas Wegovy put me off | |||
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"I empathise totally with the OP. Had a lifelong weight problem even though I used to be quite fit. Now retired and arthritic I find exercise more difficult and cannot even enjoy long walks anymore. I try to eat healthily, avoid fast food and never touch alcohol. Recently saw my new GP. She was sympathetic but said she could not prescribe weight loss drugs/injections herself but would refer me to a specialist. Still weighting. The most successful of the many diets I have tried was the LighterLife one. Lost over 4st in 4 months. Debilitating and depressing. Once off it the weight sneaked back on. I can sympathise as when i was obese i was very disabled and exercise was impossible. Have you tried fasting? Since I came off mounjaro I now only allow myself to eat between 6pm and 10pm. It's easy to do, though have been a tad off piste over Xmas. The eating window is small so there's simply not enough time to eat enough to gain weight. Its meant to be good for controlling blood sugar and boosting libido and testosterone too - which i can definitely confirm. My friend tried the four hour window thing But she went mad during the four hours doing crazy stuff like eating 2 blocks of cheese cake biscuits pizzas etc She told me during her 4hr feed she melted 6 mars bars in the microwave mixed them in the blender with ice cream and milk to make a smoothie then drank the lot It didnt work for her but then up to now nothing has in the long term She gets really down and it really upsets her then she comfort eats She's over 30 stone at present Sounds like she needs psychological help before she thnks about losing weight. She's certainly got an eating disorder. She should get help for that." She's tried all that over the past 20 years and nothing works, she does lose huge amounts of weight but then piles it back on and some more She just cant stop eating, Shes just had a special wash dry toilet off social services because she cant wipe her bum now shes that big They provided a special bariatric bed last year as well | |||
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"I empathise totally with the OP. Had a lifelong weight problem even though I used to be quite fit. Now retired and arthritic I find exercise more difficult and cannot even enjoy long walks anymore. I try to eat healthily, avoid fast food and never touch alcohol. Recently saw my new GP. She was sympathetic but said she could not prescribe weight loss drugs/injections herself but would refer me to a specialist. Still weighting. The most successful of the many diets I have tried was the LighterLife one. Lost over 4st in 4 months. Debilitating and depressing. Once off it the weight sneaked back on. I can sympathise as when i was obese i was very disabled and exercise was impossible. Have you tried fasting? Since I came off mounjaro I now only allow myself to eat between 6pm and 10pm. It's easy to do, though have been a tad off piste over Xmas. The eating window is small so there's simply not enough time to eat enough to gain weight. Its meant to be good for controlling blood sugar and boosting libido and testosterone too - which i can definitely confirm. My friend tried the four hour window thing But she went mad during the four hours doing crazy stuff like eating 2 blocks of cheese cake biscuits pizzas etc She told me during her 4hr feed she melted 6 mars bars in the microwave mixed them in the blender with ice cream and milk to make a smoothie then drank the lot It didnt work for her but then up to now nothing has in the long term She gets really down and it really upsets her then she comfort eats She's over 30 stone at present Sounds like she needs psychological help before she thnks about losing weight. She's certainly got an eating disorder. She should get help for that. She's tried all that over the past 20 years and nothing works, she does lose huge amounts of weight but then piles it back on and some more She just cant stop eating, Shes just had a special wash dry toilet off social services because she cant wipe her bum now shes that big They provided a special bariatric bed last year as well" Not being able tonstop eating is a psychological problem and an eating disorder. Psychology works, if she's willing to change. Ahe might even need a psychiatrist. Perhaps she enjoys the sympathy and attention she gets being an obese drain on society. Perhaps she has trauma that is only satiated by eating vast amounts. Perhaps she's just ultra-greedy. If she chooses to continue with the "nothing works" excuse, she will be dead before not too long. The help is there, but she's got to be open to it. I think morbidly obese people will become a rarer sight as the NHS rolls out these drugs over the years. | |||
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"I empathise totally with the OP. Had a lifelong weight problem even though I used to be quite fit. Now retired and arthritic I find exercise more difficult and cannot even enjoy long walks anymore. I try to eat healthily, avoid fast food and never touch alcohol. Recently saw my new GP. She was sympathetic but said she could not prescribe weight loss drugs/injections herself but would refer me to a specialist. Still weighting. The most successful of the many diets I have tried was the LighterLife one. Lost over 4st in 4 months. Debilitating and depressing. Once off it the weight sneaked back on. I can sympathise as when i was obese i was very disabled and exercise was impossible. Have you tried fasting? Since I came off mounjaro I now only allow myself to eat between 6pm and 10pm. It's easy to do, though have been a tad off piste over Xmas. The eating window is small so there's simply not enough time to eat enough to gain weight. Its meant to be good for controlling blood sugar and boosting libido and testosterone too - which i can definitely confirm. My friend tried the four hour window thing But she went mad during the four hours doing crazy stuff like eating 2 blocks of cheese cake biscuits pizzas etc She told me during her 4hr feed she melted 6 mars bars in the microwave mixed them in the blender with ice cream and milk to make a smoothie then drank the lot It didnt work for her but then up to now nothing has in the long term She gets really down and it really upsets her then she comfort eats She's over 30 stone at present Sounds like she needs psychological help before she thnks about losing weight. She's certainly got an eating disorder. She should get help for that. She's tried all that over the past 20 years and nothing works, she does lose huge amounts of weight but then piles it back on and some more She just cant stop eating, Shes just had a special wash dry toilet off social services because she cant wipe her bum now shes that big They provided a special bariatric bed last year as well Not being able tonstop eating is a psychological problem and an eating disorder. Psychology works, if she's willing to change. Ahe might even need a psychiatrist. Perhaps she enjoys the sympathy and attention she gets being an obese drain on society. Perhaps she has trauma that is only satiated by eating vast amounts. Perhaps she's just ultra-greedy. If she chooses to continue with the "nothing works" excuse, she will be dead before not too long. The help is there, but she's got to be open to it. I think morbidly obese people will become a rarer sight as the NHS rolls out these drugs over the years." She has tried all of that time and time again She had been through a lot as a kid but so have others It all seems to boil down to the fact that she's only happy whilst shes eating She lives alone abd has told me her food bill is 250 pounds per week And that doesnt include takeaways | |||
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"I empathise totally with the OP. Had a lifelong weight problem even though I used to be quite fit. Now retired and arthritic I find exercise more difficult and cannot even enjoy long walks anymore. I try to eat healthily, avoid fast food and never touch alcohol. Recently saw my new GP. She was sympathetic but said she could not prescribe weight loss drugs/injections herself but would refer me to a specialist. Still weighting. The most successful of the many diets I have tried was the LighterLife one. Lost over 4st in 4 months. Debilitating and depressing. Once off it the weight sneaked back on. I can sympathise as when i was obese i was very disabled and exercise was impossible. Have you tried fasting? Since I came off mounjaro I now only allow myself to eat between 6pm and 10pm. It's easy to do, though have been a tad off piste over Xmas. The eating window is small so there's simply not enough time to eat enough to gain weight. Its meant to be good for controlling blood sugar and boosting libido and testosterone too - which i can definitely confirm. My friend tried the four hour window thing But she went mad during the four hours doing crazy stuff like eating 2 blocks of cheese cake biscuits pizzas etc She told me during her 4hr feed she melted 6 mars bars in the microwave mixed them in the blender with ice cream and milk to make a smoothie then drank the lot It didnt work for her but then up to now nothing has in the long term She gets really down and it really upsets her then she comfort eats She's over 30 stone at present Sounds like she needs psychological help before she thnks about losing weight. She's certainly got an eating disorder. She should get help for that. She's tried all that over the past 20 years and nothing works, she does lose huge amounts of weight but then piles it back on and some more She just cant stop eating, Shes just had a special wash dry toilet off social services because she cant wipe her bum now shes that big They provided a special bariatric bed last year as well Not being able tonstop eating is a psychological problem and an eating disorder. Psychology works, if she's willing to change. Ahe might even need a psychiatrist. Perhaps she enjoys the sympathy and attention she gets being an obese drain on society. Perhaps she has trauma that is only satiated by eating vast amounts. Perhaps she's just ultra-greedy. If she chooses to continue with the "nothing works" excuse, she will be dead before not too long. The help is there, but she's got to be open to it. I think morbidly obese people will become a rarer sight as the NHS rolls out these drugs over the years. She has tried all of that time and time again She had been through a lot as a kid but so have others It all seems to boil down to the fact that she's only happy whilst shes eating She lives alone abd has told me her food bill is 250 pounds per week And that doesnt include takeaways" She's gonna eat herself to death, and at 30 stone it won't be long. Sounds like she's given up trying. | |||
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"I empathise totally with the OP. Had a lifelong weight problem even though I used to be quite fit. Now retired and arthritic I find exercise more difficult and cannot even enjoy long walks anymore. I try to eat healthily, avoid fast food and never touch alcohol. Recently saw my new GP. She was sympathetic but said she could not prescribe weight loss drugs/injections herself but would refer me to a specialist. Still weighting. The most successful of the many diets I have tried was the LighterLife one. Lost over 4st in 4 months. Debilitating and depressing. Once off it the weight sneaked back on. I can sympathise as when i was obese i was very disabled and exercise was impossible. Have you tried fasting? Since I came off mounjaro I now only allow myself to eat between 6pm and 10pm. It's easy to do, though have been a tad off piste over Xmas. The eating window is small so there's simply not enough time to eat enough to gain weight. Its meant to be good for controlling blood sugar and boosting libido and testosterone too - which i can definitely confirm. My friend tried the four hour window thing But she went mad during the four hours doing crazy stuff like eating 2 blocks of cheese cake biscuits pizzas etc She told me during her 4hr feed she melted 6 mars bars in the microwave mixed them in the blender with ice cream and milk to make a smoothie then drank the lot It didnt work for her but then up to now nothing has in the long term She gets really down and it really upsets her then she comfort eats She's over 30 stone at present Sounds like she needs psychological help before she thnks about losing weight. She's certainly got an eating disorder. She should get help for that. She's tried all that over the past 20 years and nothing works, she does lose huge amounts of weight but then piles it back on and some more She just cant stop eating, Shes just had a special wash dry toilet off social services because she cant wipe her bum now shes that big They provided a special bariatric bed last year as well Not being able tonstop eating is a psychological problem and an eating disorder. Psychology works, if she's willing to change. Ahe might even need a psychiatrist. Perhaps she enjoys the sympathy and attention she gets being an obese drain on society. Perhaps she has trauma that is only satiated by eating vast amounts. Perhaps she's just ultra-greedy. If she chooses to continue with the "nothing works" excuse, she will be dead before not too long. The help is there, but she's got to be open to it. I think morbidly obese people will become a rarer sight as the NHS rolls out these drugs over the years. She has tried all of that time and time again She had been through a lot as a kid but so have others It all seems to boil down to the fact that she's only happy whilst shes eating She lives alone abd has told me her food bill is 250 pounds per week And that doesnt include takeaways She's gonna eat herself to death, and at 30 stone it won't be long. Sounds like she's given up trying." I went to see her on boxing day for 2 hours and whilst i was there she ate a whole chocolate orange 2 mars bars a box of 6 mince pies and a fairly big packet of chocolate coated peanuts and raisins She just nibbles n snacks all day , her house is full of junk food crisps cakes chocolate She hasnt got the will power to diet bless her she just lounges on her bed belching hiccuping n farting watching netflix The carers visit 3 times a day Its not much of a life i suppose but she seems happy enough | |||
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"I empathise totally with the OP. Had a lifelong weight problem even though I used to be quite fit. Now retired and arthritic I find exercise more difficult and cannot even enjoy long walks anymore. I try to eat healthily, avoid fast food and never touch alcohol. Recently saw my new GP. She was sympathetic but said she could not prescribe weight loss drugs/injections herself but would refer me to a specialist. Still weighting. The most successful of the many diets I have tried was the LighterLife one. Lost over 4st in 4 months. Debilitating and depressing. Once off it the weight sneaked back on. I can sympathise as when i was obese i was very disabled and exercise was impossible. Have you tried fasting? Since I came off mounjaro I now only allow myself to eat between 6pm and 10pm. It's easy to do, though have been a tad off piste over Xmas. The eating window is small so there's simply not enough time to eat enough to gain weight. Its meant to be good for controlling blood sugar and boosting libido and testosterone too - which i can definitely confirm. My friend tried the four hour window thing But she went mad during the four hours doing crazy stuff like eating 2 blocks of cheese cake biscuits pizzas etc She told me during her 4hr feed she melted 6 mars bars in the microwave mixed them in the blender with ice cream and milk to make a smoothie then drank the lot It didnt work for her but then up to now nothing has in the long term She gets really down and it really upsets her then she comfort eats She's over 30 stone at present Sounds like she needs psychological help before she thnks about losing weight. She's certainly got an eating disorder. She should get help for that. She's tried all that over the past 20 years and nothing works, she does lose huge amounts of weight but then piles it back on and some more She just cant stop eating, Shes just had a special wash dry toilet off social services because she cant wipe her bum now shes that big They provided a special bariatric bed last year as well Not being able tonstop eating is a psychological problem and an eating disorder. Psychology works, if she's willing to change. Ahe might even need a psychiatrist. Perhaps she enjoys the sympathy and attention she gets being an obese drain on society. Perhaps she has trauma that is only satiated by eating vast amounts. Perhaps she's just ultra-greedy. If she chooses to continue with the "nothing works" excuse, she will be dead before not too long. The help is there, but she's got to be open to it. I think morbidly obese people will become a rarer sight as the NHS rolls out these drugs over the years. She has tried all of that time and time again She had been through a lot as a kid but so have others It all seems to boil down to the fact that she's only happy whilst shes eating She lives alone abd has told me her food bill is 250 pounds per week And that doesnt include takeaways She's gonna eat herself to death, and at 30 stone it won't be long. Sounds like she's given up trying. I went to see her on boxing day for 2 hours and whilst i was there she ate a whole chocolate orange 2 mars bars a box of 6 mince pies and a fairly big packet of chocolate coated peanuts and raisins She just nibbles n snacks all day , her house is full of junk food crisps cakes chocolate She hasnt got the will power to diet bless her she just lounges on her bed belching hiccuping n farting watching netflix The carers visit 3 times a day Its not much of a life i suppose but she seems happy enough" As I say she will be dead soon. Some people have given up and are just waiting to die. She seems happy cos she is piling shit into her mouth. Id take a step back for the sake of your wellbeing pal. | |||
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"I empathise totally with the OP. Had a lifelong weight problem even though I used to be quite fit. Now retired and arthritic I find exercise more difficult and cannot even enjoy long walks anymore. I try to eat healthily, avoid fast food and never touch alcohol. Recently saw my new GP. She was sympathetic but said she could not prescribe weight loss drugs/injections herself but would refer me to a specialist. Still weighting. The most successful of the many diets I have tried was the LighterLife one. Lost over 4st in 4 months. Debilitating and depressing. Once off it the weight sneaked back on. I can sympathise as when i was obese i was very disabled and exercise was impossible. Have you tried fasting? Since I came off mounjaro I now only allow myself to eat between 6pm and 10pm. It's easy to do, though have been a tad off piste over Xmas. The eating window is small so there's simply not enough time to eat enough to gain weight. Its meant to be good for controlling blood sugar and boosting libido and testosterone too - which i can definitely confirm. My friend tried the four hour window thing But she went mad during the four hours doing crazy stuff like eating 2 blocks of cheese cake biscuits pizzas etc She told me during her 4hr feed she melted 6 mars bars in the microwave mixed them in the blender with ice cream and milk to make a smoothie then drank the lot It didnt work for her but then up to now nothing has in the long term She gets really down and it really upsets her then she comfort eats She's over 30 stone at present Sounds like she needs psychological help before she thnks about losing weight. She's certainly got an eating disorder. She should get help for that. She's tried all that over the past 20 years and nothing works, she does lose huge amounts of weight but then piles it back on and some more She just cant stop eating, Shes just had a special wash dry toilet off social services because she cant wipe her bum now shes that big They provided a special bariatric bed last year as well Not being able tonstop eating is a psychological problem and an eating disorder. Psychology works, if she's willing to change. Ahe might even need a psychiatrist. Perhaps she enjoys the sympathy and attention she gets being an obese drain on society. Perhaps she has trauma that is only satiated by eating vast amounts. Perhaps she's just ultra-greedy. If she chooses to continue with the "nothing works" excuse, she will be dead before not too long. The help is there, but she's got to be open to it. I think morbidly obese people will become a rarer sight as the NHS rolls out these drugs over the years. She has tried all of that time and time again She had been through a lot as a kid but so have others It all seems to boil down to the fact that she's only happy whilst shes eating She lives alone abd has told me her food bill is 250 pounds per week And that doesnt include takeaways She's gonna eat herself to death, and at 30 stone it won't be long. Sounds like she's given up trying. I went to see her on boxing day for 2 hours and whilst i was there she ate a whole chocolate orange 2 mars bars a box of 6 mince pies and a fairly big packet of chocolate coated peanuts and raisins She just nibbles n snacks all day , her house is full of junk food crisps cakes chocolate She hasnt got the will power to diet bless her she just lounges on her bed belching hiccuping n farting watching netflix The carers visit 3 times a day Its not much of a life i suppose but she seems happy enough As I say she will be dead soon. Some people have given up and are just waiting to die. She seems happy cos she is piling shit into her mouth. Id take a step back for the sake of your wellbeing pal." I cant do that as we grew up together and shes a real good friend I do bits of shopping for her and a bit of tidying up etc when i go to visit twice a month She just likes her food and thats that She wont change her ways | |||
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"I’m Type 2 Diabetic and my GP put me on Monjaro November last year. I’m on 5mg, one injection a week and over the course of a year lost about 10kg (with a bit of daily walking round the car park) and I’ve not had any problems with it. Now there jabs were developed for the treatment of Type 2. My brother also Type 2 (it tends to run in families) is also on it but he is on the 7.5mg, but is getting some problems with his stomach. Don’t think that GP’s are prescribing it just for weight loss at the moment (according to a sign that was on the counter in the surgery reception), so private prescription might be the only way but it is quite expensive as you pay the full price, 5mg costs between £160 and £220 per month (they bumped the price up this year). Higher doses cost more. The injector pen contains only 4 doses - i.e. 4 weeks injections. Get a syrimge and draw off the 5th dose from the pen - makes it more cost effective - my pharmacist supplies a syringe every time for this purpose - on 5mg Mounjaro - lost 12kg in 10 weeks and 10 kg before starting jabs so 23kg in total so far - I'm having to do it to meet weight target for knee replacement surgery 13kg to go! "Now down 27kg - another 8 to go for knee surgery so hopefull by end of Feb I can go to consultant to get on the waiting list but I'll keep going till I get to 100kg - fingers crossed - the jabs are just an aid - you still have to change diet habits prmanently. I have found using the nhs app really helps me focus on my daily intake. | |||
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"Belly ‘fat’ is always the last to go and is notoriously difficult to loose, a balanced healthy diet, cardio and weight resistance exercises and a calorie deficit ( burning more than intake) eating regime should, over time see excess fat disappear. Thanks... And I totally get that, though all these things, apart from the weight resistace stuff, have been tried in the past." If you burn more calories than you consume, then you lose weight. So your ratio is off. | |||
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"I'm type 2 diabetic. High bp. Cholesterol is up a bit. I spoke to my doctor just before Xmas about going on manjouro and she said I don't fit the criteria for them to pay for it. What aload of bollocks. It comes down to cost. So I've spoken to a chemist and when I get paid next week I hope ican get started on it. It starts at £170 a month for the 2.5mg and then onto £210 for the 5mg. Let's hope it works for us all "type 2 but muscular I doubt it. | |||
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"I avoid any pills or drugs like a plague - served me well so far. In your case it well may be worth a try. Have you tried swimming? Thanks... I know swimming is one of the best forms of exercise, it's a self confidence thing that stops me going to my local pool, even though it's only a few hundred yards from where I live. Happy to swim in a lake or reservoir, even take a short dip in the sea when I'm staying on the coast. " Dont worrie about it mate. If i was in the changing rooms id be perving on you and be mad to see you get nakes. Some guys love a bit of a belly. Its also good your working on it but a little bit of belly is sexy and keeps us skinny guys warm | |||
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"The op has failed before he started 18 stone at 6 ft but saying you barely eat you keep telling yourself lies that’s why nothing can change try being honest. " Believe me, I am being honest. One meal a day as a rule though i do rely on potatoes, rice and pasta. Recently started to cut those out and substitute with bean sprouts more than anything. So small quantities of very lean meat, loads of veg and a bit of seasoning. Still only one meal a day and fruit as and when. | |||
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"I see them as lazy excuses not to go to the gym or change food intake choices. It's a lazy person's exercise. just a quick fix for today's lifestyle. " Perhaps nobody has ever pointed out to you that obesity is an illness, and out of control eating is fuck all to do with laziness. People can and should do whatever works for them to improve thier health (or not) and ignore judgemental comments. Your comment is like someone telling you to snap out of your adhd, because you know, adhd is just being lazy. The bloke is doing what he needs to do to address what he sees as a problem, so if you're not able to show encouragement, jog on. | |||
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"I see them as lazy excuses not to go to the gym or change food intake choices. It's a lazy person's exercise. just a quick fix for today's lifestyle. " It's not a 'quick fix' it merely helps the person taking them begin their journey to a healthier life. They still have to make changes to their diet and exercise for the benefits to be seen. | |||
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"My friend is 34 stone 10 lbs and shes not able to excercise until shes lost at least 10 stone Shes only 5ft 2 tall and 38yrs old So she needs the injections to reduce her weight down to a level where she can walk or swim to lose more weight She does light excercises whilst lying on her bed but thats more for circulation than weight loss" Mate, your friends is in the process of actively dying. I mean this with kindness, you need to see it for what it is. Weight loss drugs are not the answer for her unless she has strict medical supervision. Using weight loss injections requires massive amounts of motivation and self-discipline, which from what you've said previously, she definitely does not have. | |||
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"My friend is 34 stone 10 lbs and shes not able to excercise until shes lost at least 10 stone Shes only 5ft 2 tall and 38yrs old So she needs the injections to reduce her weight down to a level where she can walk or swim to lose more weight She does light excercises whilst lying on her bed but thats more for circulation than weight loss Mate, your friends is in the process of actively dying. I mean this with kindness, you need to see it for what it is. Weight loss drugs are not the answer for her unless she has strict medical supervision. Using weight loss injections requires massive amounts of motivation and self-discipline, which from what you've said previously, she definitely does not have. " I disagree!! | |||
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"My friend is 34 stone 10 lbs and shes not able to excercise until shes lost at least 10 stone Shes only 5ft 2 tall and 38yrs old So she needs the injections to reduce her weight down to a level where she can walk or swim to lose more weight She does light excercises whilst lying on her bed but thats more for circulation than weight loss Mate, your friends is in the process of actively dying. I mean this with kindness, you need to see it for what it is. Weight loss drugs are not the answer for her unless she has strict medical supervision. Using weight loss injections requires massive amounts of motivation and self-discipline, which from what you've said previously, she definitely does not have. I disagree!! " With which bit? | |||
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"As many have pointed out obesity is all in the mind Comfort eating of junk food is the cause. And junk food is all too easily available wherever we look. So how to get the mental discipline to resist it ? This is the crux of the conundrum. We know that dieting can work. But why do so many not have the mental power to resist large amounts of crap food ? Why can they never stick to a diet ? If you could get a will power jab it might work but sadly no such thing is available. . " They cant do it because they have an illness; addiction to food. And when they realise they need to do something about it, like I was, they might be too fat to exercise. When I look back at the vast amount of food I used to eat I'm horrified. | |||
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"As many have pointed out obesity is all in the mind Comfort eating of junk food is the cause. And junk food is all too easily available wherever we look. So how to get the mental discipline to resist it ? This is the crux of the conundrum. We know that dieting can work. But why do so many not have the mental power to resist large amounts of crap food ? Why can they never stick to a diet ? If you could get a will power jab it might work but sadly no such thing is available. . They cant do it because they have an illness; addiction to food. And when they realise they need to do something about it, like I was, they might be too fat to exercise. When I look back at the vast amount of food I used to eat I'm horrified. " And yet people can and do do overcome their addictions be it food, booze, drugs, gambling or whatever. It takes determination and a will to turn your life around. Question is why so many can’t do that. | |||
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"As many have pointed out obesity is all in the mind Comfort eating of junk food is the cause. And junk food is all too easily available wherever we look. So how to get the mental discipline to resist it ? This is the crux of the conundrum. We know that dieting can work. But why do so many not have the mental power to resist large amounts of crap food ? Why can they never stick to a diet ? If you could get a will power jab it might work but sadly no such thing is available. . They cant do it because they have an illness; addiction to food. And when they realise they need to do something about it, like I was, they might be too fat to exercise. When I look back at the vast amount of food I used to eat I'm horrified. And yet people can and do do overcome their addictions be it food, booze, drugs, gambling or whatever. It takes determination and a will to turn your life around. Question is why so many can’t do that. " Because they don't want to? Obese is socially acceptable. Our brain will always default to the easiest option. | |||
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"I started taking them at the start of the year, partly out of interest but also to control my portions with a bit more ease. I knew I gained weight after my husband died in the summer and learning to cook for one has been a strange adaptation. They have really worked for me. I lost just over 10kg in the first month - I do run and use a rowing machine everyday though, so I knew it should drag me back to where I need to be while also allowing me to keep a pretty strict diary of what I'm eating to re-teach myself meal sizes." Well done! They worked for me too, losing 7 stone over 18 months, and now 6 months of no injections, I haven't regained a single kg. Key for me was lifestyle change. | |||
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"I started taking them at the start of the year, partly out of interest but also to control my portions with a bit more ease. I knew I gained weight after my husband died in the summer and learning to cook for one has been a strange adaptation. They have really worked for me. I lost just over 10kg in the first month - I do run and use a rowing machine everyday though, so I knew it should drag me back to where I need to be while also allowing me to keep a pretty strict diary of what I'm eating to re-teach myself meal sizes. Well done! They worked for me too, losing 7 stone over 18 months, and now 6 months of no injections, I haven't regained a single kg. Key for me was lifestyle change." Lifestyle change. The key to it all. How to find that key though ? | |||
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"I started taking them at the start of the year, partly out of interest but also to control my portions with a bit more ease. I knew I gained weight after my husband died in the summer and learning to cook for one has been a strange adaptation. They have really worked for me. I lost just over 10kg in the first month - I do run and use a rowing machine everyday though, so I knew it should drag me back to where I need to be while also allowing me to keep a pretty strict diary of what I'm eating to re-teach myself meal sizes. Well done! They worked for me too, losing 7 stone over 18 months, and now 6 months of no injections, I haven't regained a single kg. Key for me was lifestyle change. Lifestyle change. The key to it all. How to find that key though ?" The jab was the key because it interrupts the addiction and makes it fade into the background, giving you headspace to work on the lifestyle, and your thought patterns. The drug is a game-changer. If you make it merely about what teh scales say, it won't work long term. | |||
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... I have noticed a change, jeans are baggier in the leg, bony elbows, my backside seems to be toning up and I've lost my double chin. But most of all is the difference whilst I'm walking around, I'm not creaking in my knees, I don't need to keep stopping for a rest etc, and I feel so much better in myself. Now I know you tend to lose quite a bit early on then it slows down, so am not gonna keep noticing changes like this, but I really can't wait till my belly starts to vanish lol. | |||
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"Been a while since I posted back on here so thought I'd update. When I originally started the thread I said I was 18st, having bought some scales it turns out I wasn't quite as heavy as that, 17st2 in fact. I have over the last 6 weeks or so totally changed the food I eat, still only one meal a day as a rule, but occasionally a bowl of muesli as well. I've not yet spoke to my doctor about the weight loss jabs, that appointment is on Tuesday next week, however having changed the type of food I eat and doing a lot more walking I have lost weight, I'm 15st4 (97.9KG) today. So have actually lost almost 2 stone since the time I put my original post on here. I'm gobsmacked, in a good way ... I have noticed a change, jeans are baggier in the leg, bony elbows, my backside seems to be toning up and I've lost my double chin. But most of all is the difference whilst I'm walking around, I'm not creaking in my knees, I don't need to keep stopping for a rest etc, and I feel so much better in myself. Now I know you tend to lose quite a bit early on then it slows down, so am not gonna keep noticing changes like this, but I really can't wait till my belly starts to vanish lol. "That’s fantastic. Well done | |||
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"Notwithstanding the possible side effects, I think they're a prop. As soon as you stop, appetite will increase and the weight will like back on. Note how effective vaping is at helping to stop smoking. Doesn't work. Nor will these in the long term. Learn to eat less and smaller portions. If you've been in lots of diets and never kept the weight off, then you're not dieting. No apologies. I've dropped from 80 kg to 63. It took 2 years. But now, when at 76 I have a 30" waist and can wear slim fit clothes just as I did in my 20s. Downside, I've had to buy a whole new wardrobe. " I've set myself a target of 12 an half stone, so around the weight you are now, maybe a bit more. I know it's gonna take a while though ... anyway, well done you | |||
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"Who are Sharon and Kelly??" Osbourne. Ozzy's wife and daughter. | |||
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"Who are Sharon and Kelly?? Osbourne. Ozzy's wife and daughter. " Ahh right, sorry lol... I don't really take any notice of celeb stuff. | |||
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"Notwithstanding the possible side effects, I think they're a prop. As soon as you stop, appetite will increase and the weight will like back on. Note how effective vaping is at helping to stop smoking. Doesn't work. Nor will these in the long term. Learn to eat less and smaller portions. If you've been in lots of diets and never kept the weight off, then you're not dieting. No apologies. I've dropped from 80 kg to 63. It took 2 years. But now, when at 76 I have a 30" waist and can wear slim fit clothes just as I did in my 20s. Downside, I've had to buy a whole new wardrobe. " That's a lot of sweeping generalisations. I know people who have used vapes to quit smoking and no longer vape, just like I know two people who have used weight loss jabs and have come off them and not gained weight because they adjusted their food intake during that time. Regardless of that, why should people be shamed into taking these? Why should these medications not been seen as something similar to blood pressure tablets? | |||
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"Notwithstanding the possible side effects, I think they're a prop. As soon as you stop, appetite will increase and the weight will like back on. Note how effective vaping is at helping to stop smoking. Doesn't work. Nor will these in the long term. Learn to eat less and smaller portions. If you've been in lots of diets and never kept the weight off, then you're not dieting. No apologies. I've dropped from 80 kg to 63. It took 2 years. But now, when at 76 I have a 30" waist and can wear slim fit clothes just as I did in my 20s. Downside, I've had to buy a whole new wardrobe. " An example of someone having an opinion on something they know nothing about. Well done on your weight loss. You did it your way, and other people will do it their way too. There are plenty of people who have used weight loss jabs and maintained the weight loss long after they stopped the drug. I am one of these people. 7 stone in 15 months, gone. The drug will not work for all people long term, but for people desperate to lose weight and sick of failure, it is a game changer. And, people who replaced smoking with vaping have in fact quit smoking. Don't knock them either. | |||
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